waiting to explode but i'm thinking that some of that has been lit. and that is concerning. two competing police reform bills one from the house and the other from the senate. battle lines are forming white critics say neither bill goes far enough. >> we're say nothing choke hold. the president is saying maybe sometimes. should we agree on the number of choke holds? would that be a good comprise? and 23% of all votes were cast by mail in 2018. how bill barr and trump are working to make sure that number doesn't rise. velshi starts now. ♪ good morning. it is sunday, june 28th. i'm ali velshi. today marking stunning and

dramatic milestones. a short time ago, the global number of confirmed cases surpassing 10 million according to the latest johns hopkins data. an unimaginable milestone as the spread of the deadly disease has claimed the lives of almost half a million people since first being reported in december. here in the united states, cases of covid-19 top 40,000 for a fifth straight day on saturday. the rapid rise has been most dramatic in southern and western states. florida, georgia, south carolina, and nevada all hitting new daily highs yesterday. on saturday, the florida department of health announced 9585 new cases bringing the total infections recorded in early march to 132,545. with that daily high, that state alone is approaching what the entire nation of italy had at its overall worst.

but florida governor still said there are no plans to mandate face masks to help stop the spread. okay. here is what we know from past experience. it's a pattern. first come the confirmed cases, then the increase in hospitalizations. arizona set a record yesterday with 2,577 covid-19 hospitalizations. in texas they set a record for the 16th consecutive day with 5,523 patients currently being treated. it's been a rapid rise since memorial day. governor greg abbott saying in hindsight he wishes he maybe would have done things differently. >> if i could go back and redo anything, probably would have been to slow down the opening of bars. now seeing in the aftermath of how quickly the coronavirus spread in the bar setting, and, you know, how bar setting in reality, it just doesn't work with a pandemic.

>> later today vice president mike pence and dr. deborah birx are expected to meet with governor greg abbott. the vice president companiancel upcomi upcoming campaigning events in arizona and florida. pence will travel it those states to meet with governors and their health officials. news of the cancelled campaign events comes as the "washington post" reports that workers removed thousands of social distancing stickers from chairs at president trump's rally in tulsa last saturday, june 20th. you asked for trump. where has he been? back in mark when he declared himself a wartime president in the face of the pandemic. >> i feel it, actually. i'm a wartime president. this is a war. this is is a war. different kind of war than we've ever had. >> well, yesterday trump decided to take a break from the war. he went golfing at his virginia

golf resort. maybe attempting to relieve some of the stress he's been feeling from the lawsuits he's got in the hopper. joining me now is an infectious disease physician, medical director with the special pathogens unit at boston medical center. good to see you. few things have changed not just that the numbers are increasing of infections and hospitalizations and not just that the overall number of people in america is hitting record highs, but the cdc has actually warned that their interpretation of who is most at risk of getting coronavirus is broader than they first said. they've gone and skewed younger and included more underlying conditions. >> that's right, ali. i think it was a missed opportunity on friday because clearly the stress was that the new sort of those infected but,

i think, a little bit more stress needs to be placed that the cdc destresses age now and said, yes, there is increases with age but aside from comorbidities or conditions you might think of such as lung disease or people with comprised immune systems, things they've included on the list are diabetes. one in ten americans has diabetes or obesity or heart attack or severe heart disease every 42 seconds, there's a heart attack in the united states. that means a lot more of us actually fall in that high risk category. that really is one of the reasons that i think we need to push it's not just for others. but even among the young population, there are many of us that might be at risk that don't recognize that or maybe around others who might at risk that we don't recognize. >> you know one of the things we've been thinking about from the beginning is a vaccine. treatments and/or vaccines. it's important to remember there are some infections, some viruss

for which a vaccine is never been developed. and the time line that the president continues to stress by the end of the year, he said as early as november is not likely by virtue of the fact that a great deal of testing is necessary. if you don't do the testing and you find the adverse effects, it plays into the hands of those who are against vaccination. >> that's correct. and, you know, let me put it another way. you know, a lot of efforts being put to find the vaccine. what we don't even know at the this point if there is a vaccine how long will the immunity from a vaccination last. it's like physical distancing, such as making sure people wear masks, stay home when we're sick, so increasing testing and tracing will remain important. so, you know, even after a vaccine is available. it's not going to be a magic bullet that on day one everybody goes back to normal. it takes time for the distribution of that vaccine. it takes time for acceptance,

you know. we're coming into this pandemic at a high anti-vaccination in this country. we're seeing resurgence of diseases like measles that had a vaccine for a long time. to me, the importance of bringing back the portion of our society that is sort of a disconnected. that feels distrust in public health and science. we need to sort of make sure that we're reaching out to that portion our of community with all the effort they have. they may be small but they'll make a big impact on the pandemic even after the vaccination is available. >> thank you for joining us. an infectious disease physician and msnbc contributor. getting kids back into classes are major challenge being experienced by participan participant -- parents and educators. phil murphy announced the path forward for his state's

1.4 million public students based on four core principles. >> ensuring a conducive and open atmosphere for learning. supporting our educational leaders in their planning. thirdly, exploring the necessary backing to our schools through policy and funding. finally, securing the contin continue -- continuity of learning in the new school year. >> outlined in a statewide guideline just released rules say students will stay 6 feet apart on class times and buses and lunchtimes staggered and teachers required to wear masks. students will be strongly encouraged to wear face coverings with certain exceptions for younger children. school districts will be required to maintain a mix of in person and remote learning based on needs and certain state requirements. joining me now is lamont ripple at the new jersey commission of

education. let's talk about this. it has been one of the most complicated, complicated things on so many levels because we don't want our kids to miss education but what we as adults can do in terms of social distancing and behavioral changes and masks becomes a little bit more difficult not just for students but in a classroom there are 1 or at most two supervisors. i would assume a lot of thought has gone into this particular model. >> yeah. a lot of thought has gone into the model. governor murphy signalled new jersey will reopen schools in the fall. you're talking about schools saying brick and mortar -- however we'll operate under the guides of the new jersey restart and recovery plan. it takes into consideration health and safety standards. that's number one. equity is very important in new jersey and flexibility and planning. our plan is divided in four

focussed areas. conditions for learning which talks about social and emotional health standards. we also have a leadership of planning policy and funding and continuity of learning. i think it's important when you look at the digital divide, as we talk about, equity -- [ inaudible ] >> and this is a big issue, right? and we knew there was a digital divide but in an environment where kids had to do so much more at home with their parents on computers with broadband. what fixes that problem? that's been a long-term problem in america >>well, that's why it's important students must return to school. the inequities we've had prior to the covid-19 hasn't changed but the pandemic health crisis put a spotlight on that. i think as we start to reimagining how our schools look post covideo have to think about it. even more so than before. now you need the textbooks,

materials, and students need to have the license. why is it important to go back to school? the remote learning had challenges if r our students and educators from social isolation, loss of student services, you had the digital divide. but more importantly food insecurities. i think when we talk about getting kids back to school, it's almost a sense of normalcy. having a place they can go to more than just writing, reading, and math. as we reimagine education, that's at the forefront and this guide is a road map for equity and health and flexibility because it gives districts the ability to create schools that are post covid-19. >> one of the interesting things, of course, is for anybody watching this anywhere in the country, frankly, anywhere in the world. they're going to be interested in the best practices. how much of what new jersey is doing has been done either in conjunction with other states or in comparison to other plans you

know what are you finding in terms of how similar this is going to be across the country or do you know that? >> yeah, so when we develop the plan, we actually had an approach -- a system ic approac. we had a research team look at the plans, we had a research team look at best practices, and use our framework from -- [ inaudible ] what is the association of oversees a lot of education departments. we used the information and looking at common sense practice when it comes to assessment. so we took all of those elements together along with our stakeholders and education ecosystem. i think it's comprehensive. if you review our plans, you'll see our plans a comprehensive. we didn't take just the cdc guidelines and use them as a blueprint. we took the cdc guidelines and

used operational ideas. how do we create minimum standards to open and operate our schools and more importantly i keep going back because i think it's important any plan you have must include the equity piece. and that is not only equity for the students but equity for our educators and faculty members and staff because they have children that go to school. they play an integral part. and our parents who may have to go back to school once the economy restarts. so i think our plan is robust. it was developed with a lot of our educators and stakeholders >>well, i think the equity plan has to go into everything we do as we start to reopen because those are the things, as you said, were broken before so maybe we don't want to go back to normal. maybe we want to go back to something that is better than normal when it comes to equity. lamont, thank you for the thought you put into this and work you put into it. the commissioner of the new jersey department of education. we have new details of a

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president trump is now claiming ignorance after a report in the new york times reveals that the russian government has offered and paid bounties to afghan militants in exchange for the killing of americans. just a few minutes ago, the president fired off this tweet writing, quote, "nobody briefed or told me, vp pence or chief of staff mark meadows about the so-called attacks on our troops in afghanistans by russians, as reported through an anonymous source by the fake news "new york times." everybody is denying it and there have not been many attacks

on us." the president's claim comes as a clear contradiction from the "new york times." the report reads "the intelligence finding was briefed to president trump and the white house's national security council discussed the problem in an interagency meeting in late march. officials developed a menu of potential options starting with making a diplomatic complaint to moscow and a demand it stop along with an escalading series of sanctions and other possible responses but the white house has yet to authorize any step the officials said." the president's claim of ignorance echoes what we heard from other officials over the weekend. last night the director of national intelligence, john ratcliffe, issued this statement, quote "i have confirmed neither the president nor the vice president were briefed on any intelligence alleged by the "new york times" in its reporting."

the trump's apparent 2020 democratic challenger, former vice president joe biden, sees the opportunity to slam trump's failure to protect american troops. >> it's betrayal of every single american family who a loved one served in afghanistan or anywhere overseas and i'm, frankly, outraged by the report. if i'm elected president, make no mistake about it, vladimir putin will be confronted and we'll impose syrian cost on russia. >> joining me now is jeremy bash. he's an msnbc national security analyst. good to see you. so a couple of things here, one, i'm having trouble -- maybe you're better versed in this. i'm having trouble figuring out whether ratcliffe and the administration are saying this never happened. this meaning the russians never paid or asked militants to kill american soldiers, or this

didn't happen that trump wasn't briefed. >> yeah, ali, they don't appear to be denying the underlying intelligence. they don't appear to be denying they have intelligence that russia and russian intelligence paid taliban elements to go out and kill u.s. service-members. whether it was for tactical victories in afghanistan or some more strategic effort by moscow to get us to be more focussed on counter terrorism and less on power competition. so the intelligence and national security leaders don't appear to be rebutting the basis of the intelligence but they appear to be saying the president and other senior leaders at the white house were not briefed, which i find totally inconceivable and totally noncredible. in my experience, at the cia and the d.o.d., there are numerous layers of intelligence, departments and agencies, and organizations that would be carefully scrutinizing these kinds of reports. everything from the forces down

range in afghanistan to the joint staff of the pentagon, secretary of defense, defense intelligence agency, cia, and other agencies. they surface up the reports for specific, very comprehensive analytic products to national security leaders every day. i don't get it. it doesn't add up. we need more answers to the questions >>well, here is the issue. the dni, the director of national intelligence is not supposed to be somebody anybody but an expert. that's something john ratcliffe brings experience to. he brings experience in being a trump loyalist. one has to parse what he says. neither ratcliffe's statement nor the one that came from the white house addresses whether or not the intel that you discussed that would have come from various branchs made it to the president and the president didn't just consume it. because that sometimes happens, as we know and have confirmed from bolton's book he doesn't like to read stuff. i'm trying to figure out the

bigger problem it happened and the president didn't know or, you know, the president didn't read it and it was given to him. >> both are huge problems, ali. first, i looked at presidential daily briefs and i've looked at senior intelligence briefings for senior cabinet officials. they contain a lot less sensitive information than this. what is being described as a bounty on u.s. service-members. they'll talk about, you know, an election scandal in mali or something happening, you know, in asia that has to do with the economy there. i mean, the idea that intelligence about our troops in afghanistan wouldn't make it to the white house, that doesn't make sense. i mean, there's something completely missing here. so i believe either that the president was not taking his briefings, not looking at it, he's claiming some deniability. we'll have to hear from the intelligence briefings on this. or he heard about it, knew something about it, and, in fact, his administration did nothing about it. that's what worries me, ali, because we -- this

administration has been so soft on russia. they've been so -- to vladimir putin. it's credible the president said it's no big deal, i think. >> neither of those scenarios are good. jeremy, thank you for joining me so early on a sunday morning. jeremy bash, former chief of staff at the cia and department much defense. an msnbc national security analyst. america is in a fragile state now. it creates the perfect time to make lasting change to our policing system. my next guest explains why the house and senate are not seizing on this rare opportunity. seizig on this rare opportunity right now is a time for action. that's why usaa is giving payment relief options to eligible members so they can pay for things like groceries before they worry about their insurance or credit card bills. discover all the ways we're helping members today. or credit card bills. did you know prilosec otc can stobefore it begins?urn

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goes far enough to solve the problem of policing in america. there are big differences between the bills. house democrats propose ending qualified immunity, banning choke holds, and creating a national data base to track police misconduct. this senate republican bill discourages choke holds, does not end qualified immunity, and looks to make a misconduct data base private only to law enforcement. now systemic racism in police departments and police brutality is at the heart of what drove nationwide protest for change after george floyd was killed in minneapolis last month during an arrest. a new polling from the associated press and norc shows a vast majority, 95% of americans, believe that policing in america needs to change in some way. that same poll found nearly a third of americans think the system needs to be completely overhauled. but what does good police reform look like? joining me now "washington post" opinion columnist and author of

a new piece called "both parties' police reform bills are underwhelming." he's the author of an important book called "rise of the warrior cop: the militarization of america's police forces." he wrote it some years ago when it was becoming a major issue. rattly, good to see you. what is your chief complaint? there are different bills but what is your chief complaint with the best in them. you say it doesn't go far enough. >> yeah, i think that the only sort of truly -- i would say either bills is the democrats attempt to abolish qualified immunity. i think that would do a lot and go a long way to change the landscape of policing now. we're in a moment, i think, that calls for really, you know, radical ideas or creative ideas for seeing policing in new ways and the bills are mostly are just -- they kind of draw at the federal pursestrings in

different ways to try to, you know, to encourage policing at the local level because the federal government doesn't have a lot of control over local policing but there's substantiative things they could do at the federal level that both kind of avoid -- and i think it's both probably just to a lack of, you know, creativity and willingness to think about this and truly, you know, different and radical ways but also, you know, a fear of going too far and political backlash, which is limited to what congress does when it comes to policing and criminal justice reform. >> one of the points you make is that neither bill satisfaction provides for the changing of the current reality that bad cops are rarely held accountable. you write that derek chauvin had 17 misconduct complaints in 18 years and received two letters of reprimand. the "new york times" reports since 2012 the minneapolis police department received over 2,600 civilian complaints of

misconduct. 12 were upheld. it's consistent with other surveys of police departments across the country. help me out. nobody likes getting stopped by the police. it's like going to the dentist. they just don't get a lot of good reviews on these things. but there is an issue with respect to the idea that police unions, in particular, do everything they can to resist the idea that someone has been accused of misconduct and maybe there was misconduct there. >> right. so there are a couple of things that congress can do in this scenario. one, you know, both bills create a national registry of police misconduct. the republican bill keeps it secret from the public and lets other law enforcement officials access it. the democratic bill makes it public. here is the key thing, neither bill publishes or excuse me punishes any police department

who, when hiring a police officer, looks at this misconduct registry, sees that the officer has long history of misconduct, and hires them anyway. there's no penalty for that. that's a huge problem now is a cop will get fired for, you know, doing terrible things, police abuse, misconduct, corruption, and they'll go on to another police department. having the registry with no penalty for police departments that, you know, consulted and hire bad cops anyway is a huge part of the problem. the other thing that these bills could do that don't there's a lawsuit called a monel claim. it's a lawsuit you file. you can prove the police department has a pattern and practice and or history of policies and training and hiring practices that would lead to the kinds of abuses that we see in policing, you can sue them. it's a very high bar to clear. and, you know, i think these departments that continue to hire bad cops or continue to fail to hold bad cops accountable need to be held

accountable themselves in court. right now that's very difficult to do at the federal level and the federal civil rights lawsuit and congress could change that. they can lower the bar. they can make it easier to fi fine -- find departments civilly liable on a wide scale for these politicians -- policies. >> we'll have to talk about the basis of your book and the militarization of police. when you wrote about it, radley, there were questions about the police getting the gear from the federal government but it contributed to part of the problem that police with this gear see themselves differently as what some of us might envision good policing to be. we'll have you bad, radley. thank you for joining us. radley balko, thank you. as president trump's approval rating hits a new low, joe biden is pushing ahead on

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this interaction with the police officers was such -- almost a pleasant interaction and it did not have to end this way and that's what is so frustrating. we have to objectively looking at deescalation. that's not very clear in our policies. >> it's time for us to realize this is not just a moment but a movement. this committee and our entire federal government have a role to play in holding the police accountable when they break the rules and break the law. and we must be on the right side of history as a committee. >> atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms and senator kamala harris have been two of the leading voices for police reform during the recent protest movement.

they're two of the top contenders reportedly on joe biden's short list for vice president, which also includes senator elizabeth warren, congresswoman value demmings, and ambassador susan rice. it's not an exhaustive list and anything can change at any time. all the contenders bring different expertise and characteristics to the table. to help me break it down identity politics reporter at the "washington post," eugene scott. here is one thing that almost -- well, everybody on the short list has in common. they're all women. some of them are women of color. joe biden largely said he's choosing a woman. is that likely to change? >> it doesn't seem like it. joe biden has been clear early in the campaign that he believes that he has an opportunity to make history but also to elevate a member of a voting block that is incredibly influential and, unfortunately, not as powerful in politics as many women would like. and so this will be an opportunity if he is successful

to show what can happen in government when a woman is at the second highest powerful seat at the table. >> he's got two of his former contenders, competitors for the presidency. elizabeth warren of massachusetts and kamala harris of california. strong candidates with strong identities. and two women who can occupy senior posts in his administration, kamala harris by a lot of people's opinions would be a great attorney general for the country. elizabeth warren a treasury secretary. >> this is very true. so these are the questions that biden and his team are trying to answer. are these very talented individuals most useful in the white house or in somewhere else in the cabinet or even still in the senate. there's a game that has to be played of some degree of chess where you figure out who can

replace warren or harris, if they are removed from the senate in a way that benefits biden and his agenda at most. >> value demmings, democrat from florida, a house manager during the impeachment, also a police chief in orlando, the first woman to hold that position. she actually mentioned the other day she may not want the job as much as it needs her. she's definitely not shied away from the fact she thinks in this particular moment, she might be the right person for this job. >> she talked about that a bit in a recent op-ed. in a letter she actually wrote to law enforcement trying to make it very clear to people that she has an insider perspective on this issue of police violence but yet not afraid to speak out against a community that often doesn't have individuals in it willing to challenge it. so she's hoping she can be a middle ground not just between

lawmakers and the police community, but between black americans -- the community that has very much had issue with law enforcement and police officers in trying to figure out a way to improve the relations. >> somebody whom our viewers will be familiar with, she's on the show a fair amount is atlanta mayor keisha lance bottom. she's been the mayor since 2018 but served two terms on the atlanta city council. she gained a great deal of prominence in the current landscape with the coronavirus the way she dealt with it in atlanta and most recently because of the killing of rayshard brooks in atlanta. what is your sense of her? >> well, her profile has certainly risen in the last few weeks. in part due to issues beyond her control, but the biden campaign seems largely pleased with how she handled it and believes she has displayed the leadership skills needed to, you know, be in the second chair. but i think something that also works for bottoms that biden and

his team appreciate is she came out pretty early in support of him before he was actually the frontrunner and helped, perhaps, bring more black voters and maybe some of the older millennial, younger genx voters not sure they wanted to get behind biden, as she did eventually. we see it got biden to the top of the list and there could be rewards for her because of that. >> the other name that is in the running here, eugene, is former u.n. ambassador susan rice who has a great deal of experience in foreign policy. she has worked with joe biden before. she's widely regarded to be an authority on the issues that she understands. she is, for better or worse, identified with benghazi and hillary clinton. >> she is. but for biden she's identified with the obama administration and the familiarity with that

could serve him well. she's an international affairs expert. biden has been vocal early on that what he sees as part of his responsibility, if he gets to the white house, is cleaning up the mess that he believes trump has made on the world stage. he needs someone who knows how to clean up that mess, and perhaps more than any of the other contenders, susan rice has the experience and connections across the globe to help him do that effectively. >> yeugene, thank you for going through these names. these are names we'll be hearing a lot about in short order. i appreciate it. eugene scott. president trump hits a milestone with the courts. what good are 200 brand new federal judges if your only right-leading supreme court rebukes your policies? y right-leading supreme court rebukes your policies?

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both areas as of late. the economy continues to struggle because of coronavirus and the judges ruled against him in a pair of decisions on the lgbtq civil rights and daca. this week the president and the senate republicans with a victory and milestone from the courts. trump confirming the 200 federal judge under his presidency filling the final available of vacancies. with a volatile stock market, is it enough to apiece hpease his ? joining me now to examine is this jeff rosen, professor of law at the george washington law school along with us danielle mclaughlin author of "the federalist society." welcome to both of you. thank you for being here. jeff, let me start with the obamacare situation. this is a weird one for the administration because there are

state cases against the federal government on obamacare that the administration has joined, which is just weird. right. an administration joining a case against its own policies. again policies. the president struggled with this before he was president. he said i'm going to repeal and replace obamacare and it's never succeeded. >> that's absolutely right. it's not the first time that the administration has sided with state attorneys general, but, as you say, previous efforts to repeal obamacare has failed. it's really significant that the long-time career solicitor general did not sign the trump administration's brief in this case, ingesting his disapproval. with a couple months left before the election, it's a last

attempt, but a mark of the determination of the president and his base to repeal this law by any means necessary. >> danielle, you made a point in your book -- when we talk about the fact that the supreme court gets all the news. in fact the federal court is where most of the work gets done. in eight years of an obama presidency he was able to fill 55 vacancies. in less than four years, trump has filled 200 and for the first time in 40 years there are no vacancies left to fill. tell me about the implications of this. >> we talk a lot about the supreme court, but only about 100 to 150 cases get before the supreme court in any given year. trump has had a bad year in the supreme court. the appellate courts are the places of last appeal for most of the cases we see in this

country. two circuit courts are of importance, particularly the ninth circuit sitting in san francisco. the president has appointed 9 out of 59 sitting judges. in the fifth circuit court of appeal, always a hard right court sitting in louisiana. the appellate courts really matter because they see more cases. >> let's talk about what danielle just mentioned, jeff. the supreme court had a couple decisions that didn't go trump's way on daca and gay rights. in both of those cases, some of the influences in the decisions came from conservatives. in one case it was gorsuch and in another case roberts, with whom trump has always had a difficult relationship.

>> that's absolutely right. there were two other decisions this past week that went in favor of the administration. in one case the court said that they would not strike down a 1996 law which denied the ability to review the constitutionality of your detention to immigrants who are trying to get into this country and feared persecution. the liberal justices thought the conservatives went too far in saying we can never review these cases in the future. there was an interesting case where the court refused to hear a texas judge's decision to say that the 26th amendment prohibits texas from giving mail-in ballots to people over 56. the judge said it was age discrimination. the court said it was too early to hear this.

ali, we're about to hear the big blockbusters of the term this week involving abortion, the trump subpoenas, religious liberties. it's possible these will not be unanimous decisions. it's too soon to say the entire court term has gone against the president. we did see very important decisions involving lgbtq and daca that went against the administration suggesting it's not a court in the president's pocket. to the degree that the president expect, appointed justices meant he would always win, he has been sorely disappointed. >> this court does seem to be inviting this administration to follow the rules, read the constitutions or check out the laws. danielle, the ninth circuit court of appeals ruled against

the president redirecting congressional funds meant for the military into building the wall. i'm not a lawyer. this isn't high you ris prudence, and when you see a ruling like this going against the president, the president will tell you it's a court that doesn't like him. the appeals court and supreme court continue to send decisions back to the president saying could you read the law and do this the right way? >> that's a great point. there's a statute for the administrative procedure act. it's a set of rules around how you make laws, how you make regulations. there's been a couple places where the supreme court has gone back and said to the trump administration -- as in the daca

case -- the reasons they gave for the decision they made is it was capricious. we saw that with trump trying to put an immigration question on the census. this is leading to losses in the country's highest court. >> great to talk to both of you. good to see you again, danielle and jeffrey rosen. still ahead, the latest on the russians bounty apparently given to kill u.s. soldiers. you're watching "velshi" on msnbc. on msnbc. e body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor

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good morning. it is sunday, june 28th. globally a new milestone has been reached. 10 million cases of covid-19 according to johns hopkins ongoing count. nearly 500,000 deaths. one quarter of those deaths are in america. president trump who repeatedly called the disease a hoax that was under control didn't head to his golf resort in new jersey as was his plan. that didn't stop him from hitting the links. he was spotted in a white golf shirt and red hat