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good morning. it is sunday, june 28th. globally a new milestone has been reached. 10 million cases of covid-19 according to johns hopkins ongoing count. nearly 500,000 deaths. one quarter of those deaths are in america. president trump who repeatedly called the disease a hoax that was under control didn't head to his golf resort in new jersey as was his plan. that didn't stop him from hitting the links. he was spotted in a white golf shirt and red hat arriving at
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his resort in virginia. cases of covid-19 continues to surge fueling the global mark. as you can see, the curve is not going down. the curve is not flattening. msnbc's ongoing count four states set new records. nevada, south carolina, florida and georgia. florida's record yesterday broke the record set on friday which broke the record set wednesday last week. florida reported 34,000 new covid-19 cases in the last week. look at that chart. the state has followed texas in implementing minor measures to stop the spread including reclosing beaches and bars. >> if i can't make money, you know what call my bartenders and
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tell them they can't work snow. all my bartenders and cooks cannot work. >> certainly share everybody's concern about what's going on, but didn't think we would go backwards. >> the reason people didn't think they would be reclosing is simple. false optimism. not listening to the science and a horrendous policy from elected leaders in washington. things are becoming so dire in texas it's forced something very, very rare to occur. a politician publicly admitting they were wrong. governor greg abbott said if he could redo anything he would have slowed the re-opening of bars noting that in the aftermath it's easy to pinpoint how quickly the coronavirus spread in the bar setting. of course, he could have simply listened to health experts and officials. >> didn't have to happen this way. the governor was warned months ago that we were facing a looming potential health crisis
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and he absolutely wanted to do nothing about it. it's that sort of weak leadership that he showed from the very beginning of the covid-19 pandemic that has made this absolutely worse. this is -- he knew it was going ton catastrophic. he was warned that it was. we have some of the leading epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists in the state of texas. he absolutely ignored all their warnings and he decided he was g going to follow trump. >> meanwhile, take your hands out from under the covers if you have a fax machine in your house. even if you don't, cue up those sound effects. msnbc learned of another massive problem in texas. most of the contact tracing is done by fax. it's 2020.
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one texas health officials tells msnbc that people should, quote, not depend on contact tracing at this stage of the outbreak, end quote. vice president pence and other members of the white house coronavirus task force including dr. birx are visiting texas today. joining me now dr. hillary fairbrother. dr. fairbrother, i spend a lot of time in houston. while it's known for oil and other things, it is known as a remarkable center of health care. you have some of the finest hospitals in the country in houston. you have the same information everybody else had about coronavirus. how did it go so wrong in texas? >> well, thank you for those kind words. we're have proud of our hospitals. it's the largest in the world. how did we go so wrong in texas?
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that's the million dollar question. everyone has their most current theory. texas never got the number of cases that we were supposed to get. we never got the spike that we were reported to be looking for. then starting may 1st we started re-opening and our government started re-opening. it wasn't that surprising because we didn't have the number of cases we were supposed to get. we did phase re-opening like recommended, but we didn't have a decline in cases. we knew that coronavirus was looming. it was there. it had never left our community. it just never affected as many people or put a strain on our health care resources as we had seen in other areas, particularly new york city. then what happened, i believe and i think most people agree, as there was more and more phased re-opening, particularly with more and more events that
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got people together, our amount of mask wearing and social distancing through our re-opening was really not what you would want in order to prevent disease spread. so combined with re-opening, combining people being back together again, plus not wearing a mask and not social distancing meant for uncontrolled disease spread and now we've got two weeks of escalating cases, two weeks of escalating hospitalizations. we are at capacity with icu beds and we're where we are now. >> you are where we were many months ago in new york. the surgeon general has just put out six tweets about the importance of mask wearing. i would suggest to people that they read them. doctor, part of the problem here is the politicalization of science. america, houston, new york, we
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have some of the best epidemiologists, ak did cademac emergency room doctors in the world. they did provide us with evidence. at msnbc we've been having this conversation since january. we know what we can do to prevent the spread of the disease. we've politicized science and politicized public health. >> i agree with you. i think that the politicalization of science is one of the reasons that we are feeling coronavirus far more deeply than other countries that we look like, whether in western europe or around the world. it makes me sad. it pains me. i understand why people are confused. if they go online, if they listen to different news sources, i get why they're confused because there is such an incredible amount of mixed
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messaging. i like to say, listen, if you have a question about your health, if you have a question about science, ask your doctor. ask a scientist. stop going to a politician for news about science. i think that that would be a lot less confusing for people. i know the scientists in the country -- i feel their frustration as there has been a pretty consistent message through physicians and scientists about how to social distance, how to wear a mask, how to keep our communities safe, how to keep our communities that have re-opened safe. it's not always on twitter by somebody who doesn't have a health care background. we have to get information from the sources and from our scientists. i feel for people that they're confused. we have people out there that are delivering a consistent message and i ask you, please, if you have a question about coronavirus, as your doctor.
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>> so let's leave everybody with these words. we beg you please stay at home. please socially distance. please wash your hands and when you have to go out wear masks. this helps everyone and people who have to go to work take care of everyone that gets sick. doctor, thank you for joining me. associate professor of medical school in houston. we're learning about another controversy in the white house. a bombshell report in the "new york times" states that american intelligence officials concluded that a russian military intelligence unit secretly offered bounties to taliban mill immigrants to kill u.s. led forces in afghanistan, including american troops. that's a lot to understand. that's what the report says. it reportedly came out amid the
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u.s./taliban peace talks aimed at ending the war. it's unclear when this bounty started. "the new york times" reports that president trump and his team were briefed on the situation earlier this year and while responses had been planned, the white house didn't take any action. in a statement, the director of national intelligence, john ratcliffe who has no national intelligence experience, said trump and pence never received a believing about the alleged russian bounty. he didn't say whether the intelligence was included in the president's daily brief, the written product that trump is reported to virtually never read. joining me now is josh letterman nbc news political reporter. josh, you have been digging into this. tell me what you know. what we've seen is a series of half denials targeting the fake news "new york times" and an anonymous source.
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what do we know about the underlying thing? is the white house saying that's not true, that russia wasn't offering or paying bounties? >> reporter: they're not saying that exactly, ali. the trump administration's evolving response to this story creating more questions than answers. not only why the president apparently was not briefed on what seems like a really dire piece of intelligence about russia offering money to afghan militants to kill u.s. and allied troops, why that information wasn't briefed to the president, whether it was included in the written presidential daily brief that you mentioned. if that's the case, raises the obvious question why was the president not aware of that? why has no action, if this is true, been taken against russia for plotting this? the president responding in a tweet a few minutes ago, his first response saying, nobody briefed or told me, vp pence or
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mark meadows as reported by "the new york times." everyone is denying this and there have not been a lot of attacks on us. that last part is not correct. two dozen troops died in afghanistan in 2019 alone. the president blaming this on a phony "times" hit job and trying to change the subject to hunter biden. we see a pattern here by trump where he tasks something that's black and white as if it's unknowable. the president is the commander in chief. he can call up the cia director. he call up john ratcliffe and say was this in my brief? he can get to the bottom of it
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and get answers. he has not done that. that's why we're seeing these calls not only by democrats, but by republicans demanding answers not only about what the president knew, but what he plans to do about it. >> interesting point you make. as if it's unknowable, it may be to you and me, it's not to the president of the united states. josh, thank you for your continued reporting. we're continuing to closely monitor developments coming out of louisville, kentucky. one man is dead and another hospitalized after a man opened fire in jefferson square park. that's the site of mass protests after the death of breonna taylor. there was an individual
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pronounced dead at the scene. another victim is getting treatment. the escalation comes after months of peaceful demonstrations. taylor was an emt who was shot and killed in her bed by louisville police officers after they executed a no-knock search warrant in the middle of the night. taylor's boyfriend opened fire and hit an officer in the leg. the police opened fire and shot taylor eight times. taylor's boyfriend had a licensed gun. the officers he thought were br breaking into his house. u.s. attorney general bill barr is echos the president's concerns about faulty mail-in ballots. ta-da!
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with president trump continues to push conspiracy theories that mail-in voting leads to fraud, they're dead wrong. it's simply not true. documented voter fraud cases in the united states are very few and nothing close to a level that would constitute common, let alone what trump says widespread fraud. the idea of voting by mail in this year's presidential election is alarming to republicans who spent years who tried to limit the ways we exercise our right to vote. bill barr isn't really worried about voter fraud. president trump isn't worried about the context of voting in this country. they're hypocrites who vote by mail, but refuse to afford you the same privilege. mail-in voting dates back to the civil war. it's an american tradition. voting by mail works. it's legitimate and safe. it's the biggest threat to the president's re-election. joining me now kim whaly, she's
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the author of "what you need to know about voting and why." kim, good to see you again. it's amazing. every couple days we get a report about someone else in the trump administration who voted by mail in the last presidential election, in the one before that. they all vote by mail. they think voting by mail is fine, but not for the rest of us. what's the problem there? >> there are five states that vote almost exclusively by mail already. this is something states know how to do. this propaganda coming out of the white house, as well as the attorney general, is reckless, it's false, it's devis divisive.
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the notion of widespread voter fraud doesn't make sense. it carries a five year prison sentence under federal law. second, there would have to be a collusion on a scale that's in conceivable. there would have to be hacking into the voter roles. these states know how to match where they sent the ballots to the number of ballots they receive. there are all kinds of auditing mechanisms, bar codes, the paper it's printed on is special paper. there are double envelopes that go on. there are signatures that go on. it's false and outside the scope of the attorney general's expertise. the notion is actually divisive to democracy and it's to make people think our elections aren't functioning. it's an obvious employ by the
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president to win by keeping people home. >> that's what the problem is, kim. two different things can be achieved here. one is you confuse people and worry them it's not safe. we in this country don't vote at levels you would think and the second problem is election results. we saw last week where we had primaries and it took a couple days to get the final vote because people voted by mail. it seems like trump is softening everybody up for the idea he's going to talk for days after the election how that's not a victory and that's not true and it's fraudulent. how do we arm ourselves for that nonsense? >> it's problematic given the violence we're seeing around black lives matter coming from the federal government itself.
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there's concerns that we'll see this at the ballot box in november. the answer is what we're doing right now. it's education. unfortunately a lot of people believe the notion of voter fraud, even though the president commissioned a panel to find it and had to disband it. it just doesn't exist. at the end of the day, people need to understand this is the way we self-govern. it's not political. it's not democrat or republican. it's we the people. if we don't have a functioning democracy, american democracy could slip away. we could see something for our children and grandchildren that is not about government by we the people. given this evil virus that hasn't gone anywhere in part because this president hasn't done anything about it, we're going to have to figure out ways to vote safely.
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mail-in voting is done for the military under federal law. in 2020 this is not the pernicious fraud-focused thing the attorney general is saying. it's not. education is number one. i encourage everyone to ask for a mail-in ballot and cast it if you can't go to the polls with your mask and hand sanitizer and understand, if you're in line, they can't turn you away before the doors close. we saw this in kentucky. if you get there and you were kicked off the polls, you can ask for a provisional ballot. you have to be given that under federal law. don't just grab yourself. grab someone not used to going and bring them along. only half of eligible voters vote. if we get that back to 80%, we would take back our democracy.
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>> on july 4th we're going to celebrate our history as a democracy. i don't know if people normally give july 4th gifts. why not celebrate with a book called "what you need to know about voting." this would help. this is the gift of democracy. understand voting. don't just understand it for yourself. you might be one of those people like me who votes and wears the sticker you vote. go beyond that. bring a person with you. if everybody got one other person to vote, we would take democracy back. kim, thank you for writing the book. kim whaly is the former u.s. attorney and a professor at the university of baltimore school of law. let's turn to developments in the mississippi legislature.
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state law makers are expected to pass a bill that removes the confederate battle flag emblem from the state flag. it's still on the flag. it's 2020. mississippi would be the last state in the country to do that. governor tate reeves in a reversal has said he will sign whatever flag bill the legislature decides on. for more on how this happened let's go to dave ingram who has been following this. dave, skip the part about the fact that there's a confederate battle flag on a state flag in this country. let's skip the fact that the governor says he'll sign it. he's not all that hot on the idea. he said it's erasing history. today is the day this has to happen, right? >> reporter: that's right. i think yesterday the headline was historic. today the headline will be history making. what you'll see this afternoon
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in the house of representatives, they will come into session and vote on two pieces of legislati legislation. one that will remove the current state flag completely so it will leave the flag bare and then another commission for it to be placed on the ballot in november for the voters to vote on. it's going to be a historic day in the state of mississippi. as we saw yesterday from the procedural votes, everybody is on the same page and today it's a formality to pass this. >> david, great to see you on tv. i've never seen you on tv before. i see you around the office all
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rosy predictions by president trump about the economy's return to pre coronavirus levels are probably wrong. get people back to their jobs, get businesses up and running to get out of the recession. i agree with their aspirations, but that's what they are, aspirations. i prefer facts. life as we knew it is unlikely to come back soon and we should be aiming higher than for a return to normal. normal, according to the u.s.
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census bureau, was bad for millions of americans. nearly 40 million who lived in poverty and were food insecure before coronavirus were unemployed and under insured. with time we are witnessing the broader i mage of the damage caused by the pandemic, and, as we move to recovery, which is likely to take longer than anyone from the trump administration says, now is the time to make changes to our society and our economy, changes that will allow everyone the dignity of living with a wage that they can survive on, of health care, of education and a safety net for when things don't work out. that's what the new normal can look like. history will say we did okay during the emergency. we pulled together.
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we overcame partisanship for a minute and found money we believed didn't exist for people we finally acknowledged do exist, the people who keep our economy going. notwithstanding donald trump's leadership failures, our government works okay during a crisis. what was wrong with america is not something that will be fixed through emergency loans and stimulus checks or striving to return to what was normal. the pandemic exposed a wound that has been festering beneath the surface of our economy for years. our system is fundamentally unequal. it favors corporations over people. rich people over poor people. it places the bottom line above the lively hood of our citizens. that was never great. how about we don't work so hard to get back to normal? let's work to make the critical changes we need to build a better and more just society and more equitable future for all americans.
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nearly 1.5 million americans filed for unemployment claims last week adding to the 46 million claims filed since march. at least 33 million americans remain on unemployment or are waiting to be approved for it. those americans are facing a new challenge as the federally bolstered unemployment insurance, up to an extra $600 a week, officially ends july 31st. due to issues of wording in the c.a.r.e.s. act some people say they'll pay the claims a week before that date. many americans may see that bolstered check disappear on july 25th or 26th. meanwhile u.s. air carriers are reporting major losses. they secured $25 billion in aid from the federal government to
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keep its employees on payroll. now that money allocated to u.s. airlines will run out by the end of september. it comes at a breaking point for air travel as new statistics from the industry lobby say domestic travel is down 78% and international travel is down 96% compared to this time last year. labor unions representing airline workers are pushing for an extension in the aid to keep workers employed until march 2021. joining me now is sarah nelson, the president of a union that represe represents airline employees. sarah, good to see you again. >> good to see you, ali. >> sarah, let's talk broadly about this. when you were involved in the design of this plan in the early days, we were at a point in
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which everybody came together and understood the degree to which we were in a crisis. as often happens, as we get further from the beginning of this, even though we're setting records for the number of people getting coronavirus, which is no good for the travel industry, the feeling of emergency is wearing off for some. there aren't replacement plans in place for airlines. this predicament could continue for over a year. how should we be thinking about this? >> well, we're on the edge of a cliff here, ali. if we don't get extended funding, we are going to have millions more on the streets. we're going to have millions of evictions, people who can't pay their rent or put food on the table. there's going to be a world of hurt. there doesn't seem to be a recognition the threat here in the virus. we don't have a plan still. we were supposed to be using this time to put in place safety measures that would help
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mitigate the risk until there is a vaccine. the government has completely failed to act on that. they haven't taken any actions. the airlines have put in place mask policies and have had social distancing in the gate area and some other policies, also changed policies on the plane for our delivery of service. this has been done in a hodge podge way that left stewardesses on the frontlines to enforce. now the european union is saying they're not going to accept americans through air travel. this is a huge blow to our country, to american jobs, to our ability to recovery. we're going to run out of those $600 checks at the end of july
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and everyone is going to be in a world of hurt. >> the percentage of the u.s. airlines revenue that would typically come from trans-atlantic flights american airlines 17%, delta 11%. larry kudlow said the administration would favor a back to work bonus. senator rob portman proposed a bill to replace the $600 with temporary payments of $450 a week for those who return to work. there's a fundamental difference in what they're doing. if it continues to be dangerous to work, or in the case of the airlines the work is not there, the government is telling people go back to work and we'll help you out, if you go back to work. >> ali, there is no work to go back to. the work they're trying to send people back to where it does exist, they're saying we're
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going to pay you to put your life at risk. we're not going to address the safety risks. we're not going to do anything that addresses the threat, the virus. it is an absurd notion that we can just pay people to go back to work that doesn't exist or that's unsafe. that's not the way to address this. what we need to do is have programs in place like the aviation program that extends the payroll protections as long as we have for profit employer base health care, we have to keep people connected to their jobs to have health care. we're exposing all kind of problems in our society we need to address. we need emergency health care for everyone. we need to extend the aviation payroll system and extend that to people as well. the plan with senator warren and
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senator sanders keep people connected to their jobs and connected to their health care so we can recover from this. >> sarah, good to see you again. sarah nelson is the president of the association of flight attendants. two blows to one of president trump's core re-election messages. we'll take a look at those immigration court cases when we return. guys! guys! check it out. safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! he's here. he's right here. - hi! - hi. hey! - that's totally him. - it's him! that's totally the guy. safe drivers do save 40%. click or call for a quote today.
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we're building it. fully funded. i could build numerous walls with all the money i have. fully funded. >> that was president trump this past tuesday in arizona where he attempted to draw attention to the border wall. trump's visit comes at a critical time for the state, which is a hot spot. arizona is dealing with a covid-19 outbreak and detainees are dealing with outrageous conditions. the order from a central california district court gives i.c.e. from july 17th whether to
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release these minors with their parents or figure out another way. trump's administration is in limbo with activates dealing blow after blow to his strategy. i want to bring in julian ainsley and caitlyn dickerson. welcome to both of you. julian, immigration is the thing trump kicked off his campaign on and the wall and detentions are the things he believes most. what's the context of the ruling this week? >> well, it's a huge blow to all of that, ali. this ruling that came out late friday night said the children who are in family detention centers cannot be held longer than 20 days. it's the judge reinforcing
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something that's been saying for decades. this is judge dolly jean who says children can't be held in these conditions. the original order had nothing to do with the parents. she can't force i.c.e. to children. right now, they're being held longer than 20 days because i.c.e. says they can release them and they can't release the parents and they did, ali, we reported on this last week, they gave these parents the option. they sent out forms and said, sat everyone down and said you can sign this form to release your child and not one of them understandably so signed that form. so that shows if i.c.e. does decide to take the other route here as you said and not release the children with the parents, they are doing something that every single one of the parents have said they don't want to do. they don't want to be separated from their children even if it means releasing them to someone in the united states that they know. they want to stay together. >> right. anybody with children would understand that sentiment.
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caitlyn, there was a daca ruling at the supreme court in which the supreme court rejected donald trump's end to -- attempt to end the protections for dreamers and work permits almost for 800,000 people. it doesn't fundamentally settle the daca problem, but it does end the attempt to go against the will of the vast majority of americans and get rid of the daca recipients. >> that's right. so there's a big caveat to the success of the supreme court's decision for people who are daca recipients or advocates. temporarily that status will remain in place. many people get to continue to live their lives and they don't have to worry about the immediate deportation. that's true for the 250,000 american children and family members who are in households
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who are related to daca recipients. there's a big but which is that the supreme court didn't say that daca had to or could go away immediately but they said that the trump administration didn't try to get rid of it in the right way. they laid out the procedure for the trump administration to give it another try so i think the real win here is that the supreme court has now delayed this process. the trump administration is going forward and it won't be settled until after the 2020 election. if he's re-elected he may try again and may succeed given the road map that the supreme court has laid out but that's a big if. >> julia, there was also -- there's been some many rulings relative to immigration. the ninth circuit court of appeal ruled as well on friday that it is illegal -- donald
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trump kept talking about the fully funded wall. it was illegal to use $2.5 million to use money allocated to the military for implementation of the law. >> it's the next iteration of who's going to be a long, drawn out court process. when the president announced the fact that he was going to use military funding to build this wall, over a year ago, he said he expected this to go to the courts. he expected it to go all the way to the supreme court and it could. the problem is that at that point he thought he had a court more on his side but as we saw recently with the neil gorsuch siding on lgbt rights, the court siding on the daca recipients, he may not have the court he bet on when he made that move. now it's teeing up to say at least through the ninth circuit that he can't use that military
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funding to build his wall and it comes just 24 hours after he went down to the border personally and signed the wall to show his achievement. this gets back to your point, ali, about this corner stone of the election of the election strategy. that trump wants to keep talking about immigration. the plan was not for anyone to have a pandemic right now or an economic recession. but the plan was to keep hammering home on these things that rally up his base and immigration is such a big part of that. that he wants to keep coming back to this point. that's why we'll continue to see executive orders that rein in asylum, that keep illegal immigrants from coming into this country. it's because that the president want to be talking about immigration right now. he doesn't want to bringing out his task force on covid to talk about that. and so we will continue to see him go back to that. even though the courts keep hammering him and going against his strategy to really put any teeth behind what he is saying.
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>> yeah. hard to continue to build a strategy around something that's a cornerstone of your campaign when little bit -- bricks of that cornerstone get taken out. thank you so much to both of you. julia ainsley, justice correspondent and caitlyn dickerson, immigration reporter. all right. that is it for me. joy reid picks it up from here. - [narrator] did you just reward yourself for spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub?
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president trump, you first. just now president putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. every u.s. intelligence agency has concluded that russia did. what -- my first question for you, sir, who do you believe? >> my people came to me, dan coats came to me and said some others, they said they think it's russia. i have president putin, he just said it's not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> yeah, okay, good morning and welcome to "a.m. joy." you may remember that you know donald trump he tried. he tried to walk back his cinco fancy to putin and he's siding with putin over american troops. trump is denying that he was ever briefed on intelligence that as reported by "the new york times" the kremlin has been secretly offering bounties to
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taliban linked militants to kill u.s. troops in afghanistan. "the times" reported that the white house and the white house security council were briefed in late march and that trump took no action to prevent russia from targeting u.s. soldiers in afghanistan. in a statement the white house did not confirm or deny russia's actions but it did refute trump's knowledge of any such allegation. trump himself is tweeting this morning that he knew nothing of the claims and yet still has nothing to say to his pal, old vladimir putin. who again is accused of offering bounties for the lives of americans. on saturday, "the new york times" responded to the white house reporting that one official said the intelligence was briefed at the highest levels. and another said it was in the presidents' daily brief. perhaps most damning of all, american officials reached
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