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angeles. the u.s. has failed to badly to stop the spread as other countries have that americans could be banned from traveling to european union countries. that's not what president trump is concerned about this weekend. he is spending his time golfing at his course in virginia and tweeting, including a controversy retweet of a trump supporter chanting a racist slogan while facing off with counter protesters. >> yeah, you got it. white power. >> there you go. white power. you hear that? >> nbc news has verified the authenticity of the vid dwreo w is posted on the web page. hours later, it appears the tweet was removed. let eets bri let's bring in josh letterman at the white house. what is the white house saying about this video? >> reporter: it took the white
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house several hours to get the tweet pulled down after the president posted it today and longer for the white house to comment on why it was there in first place with white house spokesman tells us that president trump is a big fan of the villages. that's the retirement community in florida where the video is from. the spokesman going onto say president trump did not hear the one statement made on the video. what he did see was tremendous enthusiasm from his supporters. that one statement the spokesman is referring to, the white power comment from the supporter. not something the white house is condemning today. we should point out this is just the latest step by president trump that is really undermined what his campaign says is a serious and ongoing effort to try to win over black voters ahead of the 2020 election. if you recall back in 2016, president trump won a dismal 8% of african-american voters in our country. this time around, his campaign has been saying publicly that
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they believe he has a chance to do better because of what hay see as economic progress for african-americans. we have seen how he has repeatedly made these kinds of comments in the middle of the race discussion that we have been having over the last several months with an npr poll this month showing that roughly 9 out of 10 african-americans in the u.s. feel that president trump has exacerbated racial divisions with his approach to the issues we have been discussing. >> josh, thank you. this weekend marks one month since george floyd died at the hands of police officers which sparked a month of protests in support of the black lives matter movement. six years this month, eric garner died in a police choke hold in new york city. his mother said this this weekend. >> my son, he cried on the ground saying i can't breathe. 11 times he said i can't breathe. they refused to let him up. same with george floyd.
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the man was crying for his life. begging for his mama and the man kept his knee on his neck. it's just horrible. we have to get a national law. >> next week some in the u.s. senate say they will try to take up a bill to do that. the law appears stalled by the republicans in control. president trump signed an executive order about the protests but not to protect people dying at the hands of the state. he signed an order that denounced protesters that vandalized zifcivil war monumen. protecting statues while real people suffer and die. the 23-year-old died following an encounter with police in 2019. authorities have now opened an investigation. daifrds is following the latest developments. you've been talking with friends and family of elijah. what are they telling you? >> reporter: this has been a
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long year for this community. it took a number of months before there was an autopsy released. the district attorney decided not to press charges against the officers involved in the confrontation. it's been a local story. it's attracted national attention. there were a number of protests yesterday, including members of his family. they came out here to protest as well. there were calls for justice. they want to have police reforms put into place but they are adamant the world knows who elij elijah. his name is known by hundreds of thousands of social media. his friends and family say he was full of wondering, a shining star. >> he was one of those people that actually would make humanity better. >> surprise. >> reporter: he was a son, a brother.
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he was someone who liked to dance. he was slight, about 140 pounds. he was anemic. he was just 23 years old when he died. >> the very first time i met him, he danced out of the back, through the doorway. >> reporter: he was massage therapist and that's how he met marna. >> he was welcoming and just loving and kindness and just encapsulated. >> reporter: the night of august 4th, 2019, he went to a store to pick up ice tea for his brother. he was wearing a ski mask. people who know him say he got cold easily because of anemia. someone called the cops because of a mask. you're being suspicion. they pult him in a choke hold. it's been made illegal. pleading with them to stop. >> he came out. he was yelling.
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>> i'm sorry. i don't do that stuff. i don't do any fighting. >> reporter: millions of people know those words. in the last few weeks his life and his death have attracted attention worldwide. >> it's a bittersweet moment because for the mcclain family their son was killed almost a year ago. >> reporter: this week three police officers have been reassigned. the governor has promised an independent investigation but the family lawyer says. >> what troubles me is the fact it takes millions of signatures and international media pressure before there's an independent look when an innocent young man is killed by the police.
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this should happen as a matter of course. when law enforcement kills somebody there should be an independent investigation every single time. not just when the entire world demands it. >> reporter: the official autopsy was inconclusive. a prosecutor decided not to press charges. >> it's fractured the relationship between our law enforcement and african-american community. >> reporter: the independence of aurora's own independent investigation was called into question so the city is starting over. >> we want to bring closure to this where there's no credibility questions. >> reporter: colorado has implemented sweeping new police reforms brought about what happened to elijah mcclain. >> it would not have happened without the protesters and victims and the families of the victims coming forward. >> reporter: there's a desire for change and closure. >> i'm just so grateful that
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somebody is finally listening because he deserves a voice. he deserves justice. >> reporter: the governor saw the video like so many people did and it's part of what made him call for this unprecedented state investigation. it's being conducted by the attorney general. i reached out to get a sense of the timetable of when it might start and the office is keeping quiet. they want to keep this as independent investigation as possible. protesters here yesterday for calling for justice. so many of them define that as charges being brought against the officers. so far that hasn't happened. they have been removed from duties. they have been put on different duties now. the department says because of their safety and safety concerns. what this community would like to see, those out here protesting yesterday is for them to be brought to justice. >> thank you. for more on the case looiki'd lo
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bring in staff writer for the new york times. how do you contextualize this story in the broader moment? >> i mean, when you look at this story, it's another case of how black people doing ordinary things that every person does can end up dying because police are called to interact with them. this was a young man walking home from the store and you have to wonder what goes through police officers minds that they immediately don't see him as a human, as a young man. hesitate tryi in he's trying to tell me them who he is.
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it leads to them tackling him and him dying. this is what black life is. we believe black humans were so deserving of chattel slavery. they should be given the benefit of the doubt. we see this in these cases again and again. you don't see white kids just walking home from the store and ending up getting killed by the police. >> the other side of this conversation is about the use of force and the police use of force. in this case specifically the ketamin that with used. how often is that used? >> i am not familiar with a large number of cases in which particularly paramedics were brought in to administer ketamin in that manner. what is clear is many of the tactics that the police used running up to and during that encounter including the use of a
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strangle hold are things that are used frequently all across the country. they are tactics that kill people. only up until now we are starting to see departments pan those. we saw in california through governor newsom's action, restricting or all together banning the use of strangle holds in the state. we're seeing now in colorado. what's clear when we look at the data around policing is that aurora and colorado have higher rates of killings by police than the national average. looking at data from 2013 through 2019, colorado has the fifth highest rate of killings by police of the 50 states and aurora has the 8th highest rate of the 100 largest cities. these are systemic issues and the police killing elijah was
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one example that brought a pattern and practice of discriminatory and violent policing, particularly in aurora and colorado and what we have seen across the country is this is happening all time and it needs to stop. >> we know that elijah was anemic and he weighed about 140 pounds. can you talk to me about the stress that's put on the body both when you're talking about the injection of ketamin and the hold that sam was describing? >> the more i find out about this case, this more disturbing it is. there's so many layers. the choke hold decreases blood flow to the brain and it decreases the amount of oxygen going to the brain. it can cause cardiac arrest. you receive 500 milligrams of ketamin which is a powerful tranquilizer. it's a higher dose than he should have received for his
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weight. it's almost the same dose for someone having an operation where they are totally knocked out. my concern is that we have paramedics, health care workers who are basically being used as tools of policing. it's a powerful drug and we know they are other police departments that have the right to call paramedics in. i think also in minneapolis there's been a few cases of people who have been handcuffed and injected. this is a disturbing trend we need to keep an eye on. >> this story is coming to light again. it's getting a second life because of the moment we're in. i wonder of what you make of the possibility of having accountability not just moving forward but using this moment to build accountability for cases like elijah mcclain's that have come to pass.
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>> we saw this with ahmaud arbery and breonna taylor. if we don't have these larger structural changes where we have accountability and independent investigation, we're not going to see change. these cases went on for months with police not being held responsible, with no charges being brought, without an actual independent investigation and it's only after this tremendous pressure. that's what we know happened after the protest after michael brown. it happened again and again there's this intensive spotlight and we see some few cases where there's a accountability and every one moves on including the media who stops covering the stories as intensely. this is critical. we have to see these larger changes. we must do our job. we have to keep covering these stories until those changes occur. >> he talks about how he was a
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sweet kid and played violins. thank you all. up next, there's a reason the trump campaign is scheduling events in arizona. they have a tough fight there in what could be a key state in november. we'll explain why. the army is now speaking out about it. we'll get a response from her family. out it ab we'll get a response from her family & cheese versus the other guys. ♪ clearly, velveeta melts creamier.
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vice president mike pence did something off script while speaking at a briefing in texas. he wore a mask. now he's changing his tune a bit on the whole controversy. >> wear a mask where ever it's indicated or where ever you're not able to practice the kind of social distancing that would prevent this spread of the coronavirus. >> turning now to arizona where trump is treating the state as a key part to his re-election strategy. his campaign was set to hold a mike pence event in tucson this week after what kaz cwas cancel out of an abundance of crisis. trump is fighting hard for arizona because joe biden's path to the white house could be through fed of suburbanites and young latinos there.
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all right. set the stage for us. why is arizona so critical and what did you hear from voters there? >> arizona is really critical because democrats have been fighting for it for so long. it's also a state where they really think they can win this year and even though it doesn't have the most electoral votes, if they flip it, they will be able to send trump out of the white house. what i heard there is a lot of confusion and anger. there is a tremendous amount of confusion over coronavirus and the impact and sort of what the right thing to do is. as you see the rates spiking there, i saw lots of people packing into bars and nightclubs. on the anger side there's a lot of anger at racial justice issues and the state is one that has a very heavily latino population including a will the of people who came out of the immigrant right activism ten dwree years ago who are eligible to
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vote and energized and ready to do that. >> the state has always been so interesting because of the immigration politics within the state and because of the demographic realities in the state. you have an older, whiter population and you have this younger, latino population that's coming up, that's turning 18 and becoming eligible to vote. when you look at following, jenny says fed up suburbanites and young latins, what are they telling you about what will get them to turn out in november? >> it's exactly right. if you're not following jenny over at the new york times, you're missing a lot. she's one of the best reporters. people are fed up and angry with what's going on. go back to 2010 when you had russell and joe arpaio and jan brewer pushing hate across the state of arizona and there was an immigrants right motivation
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that took place and it was young people. they have been across state mobilizing and now they are coming of age and voting. we're seeing a tremendous movement in the polling. if you're doing the polling accurately and capturing that young latino segment, it's growing dramatically. they are very angry. if the biden campaign can get them energized, it's going to make arizona a lean blue state. not even a purple state. it's trending that way. you already saw it with cinema and there's so much energy and anger there. it needs to be bottled and turned into votes. >> jenny, there's two major national stories we have been following now for months. there's covid-19 and the president's response to this pandemic and then there are the protests that we have seen across the country grappling with racial equality and police brutality in america. how are those two issues going to play out in arizona,
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specifically? >> i think it's all an extension of what matt is talking about. you see so much anger among lat latino voters. that has seeped into fed up suburbanites. there's a lot of people who feel i may have voted republican in past but now i can't do that anymore. i feel like my eyes have shifted. my views have changed and all of these things in the last year, covid and the sort of reckoning over racial justice in this country have changed a lot of people's minds. the fact you have so many latino activists so engaged throughout the state mean they have changed the minds of some of those suburban voters who they have voted for trump even as recently as four years ago. >> the biden campaign seeing arizona as long with texas and gaeorgia as being within the margin of error and target
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worthy. does that sound realistic to you? >> i think so. the map is really chaenging. arizona should be at the top of the map as a key tipping point state. you see texas and georgia. those states we haven't seen in that category are trending in that direction. we can't continue ignoring the polling and saying georgia and texas are republican state ps p the po -- states. the polling is telling us that voters are fed up. it's looking like nevada. it used to be an up and down state but the demographic change of young latins sweeping the state really changed it. i'm seeing that in arizona as well. >> jenny, i miss seeing you out there on the trail. thank you so much. up next t biden campaign providing an inside look at their team and strategy. we'll talk about the new tell all from inside the trump family and the legal fight to keep it from coming out. you're watching msnbc live. you're watching msnbc live
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following public pressure, former president joe biden is disclosing the diversity data of his presidential campaign staff for the first time. 35% of his staff are people of color and 36% of his senior staff are people of color. the data shows that the majority of his staff are women, including 58% of his senior staff. the trump campaign followed suit revealing that 25% of its senior staff are people of color but declined to provide information for all full-time staff. biden reiterated his commitment to his cabinet would look like america straight down to his cabinet members.
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all right, chuck. the new piece you have in the new york times says there's not a lot of people in the campaigns who look like, have your life experience and how does it matter and how does it play out. >> you have black people being killed in the streets. when we expect politicians to show up. less than 9% of all state legislatures made up of anyone who is black. less than 5% of all state legislatures are made up of folks that are latino. if you want your voice to be heard, we need to be involved at
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the very beginning in the campaign and a position of power. we need to be in the room as hamilton says where it happens. the room where the power is to make sure we're making policy and the voice needs to be heard. it's at the moment right there many the beginning. sglg >> we saw more race centered policies coming out. how much of that do you tribute to the people behind the scenes to the diversity of campaign staffs? >> it has everything to do with the fact with the policy making. it's part of the reason we saw support from black women and black activists. look, a candidate cannot build
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an an antiracism into their policy work. it has to be centered from the beginning. it has everything to do with who is hired to do that policy making. >> natalie, it strikes me that chuck looks at this has people who work inside presidential campaigns. you're coming at this from a different perspective. you're saying if you're someone who decides where you place your money, that one of the best invest ments you can make is in political organizing led by black indigenous people of
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color. why? >> because at the end of the day we have to have a balance to hold people accountable. as important as the campaigns be structured the way we consider discussing, there has to be organizations that are there before the elections begin, before campaign teams even get set up and after an election that there be people on the ground who will be there in time for the next election. when i did the research and thought where is my money best spent, i want to invest in things that last. i want to invest in organizations that will be there after they are open. i think we probably need both but we have moved $50 million into majority people of color led organizations that are going to sway the elections and hold campaigns who get created and then get dismantled quickly
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accountable way after the elections are finished. >> make the argument that this is good business. >> i don't think any investor and i think it's funny when people refer to impact investors. if you're not invested in destroying the planet or people that live around you then you're an investor that cares about your investment. all should be worried about another four years under the current administration whether you care about the planet, humanity or the bottom line. i'm looking at my investments and i invest a lot in reproductive health. they don't stand a chance of returning any kind of investment under four years of an additional trump administration. even if all you care about is the bottom line, nothing is more important than ensuring we have a democracy and a functioning economy so your investment
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stands a fighting chance. invets investors should not be worried about anything more than investing in the current election. if you're investing in people of color organizations and the jurisdictions that chuck was just mentioning then you're looking at investing in something that lasts that will continue to return on that investment for years to come. >> chuck, so much of it is about the numbers but there's something more than the numbers. there's about who has power inside of these campaigns. how do you assess that? >> the lowest number are the people making the real money. back to investing in equity. less that 1% of all levels of consulting people of color. i was writing this op-ed and thinking why is there not more jessica bird who have dedicated her life to electing black women to office.
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think about the presidential elections. the senate and congressional races almost have no people of color making the ads or making decisions. >> how do you take that number and increase not just on presidential but on down ballot races? >> it's about recognizing that as we seen time and time again, movements that are led by people of color, particularly by black people from the civil rights movements of the 60 from the movement of black lives happening now has offered so much in terms ho s of how we fi war. we have to have organizers of work leading the spaces.
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it informs in ways that the candidate can't completely understand would you tell us that guidance. their race centered analysis helps us get to race centered policy making and the people doing the hiring and building out teams have to be intentional about making sure it's not just numbers being built out to say that we have diversity but an intentional look at how the work actually gets done and how the people of color who have been doing this work for so long feed into that frame work. >> i'm glad your msnbc debut was with us. there's new developments in the fis appearance of a ford hood soldier. we'll tell you what the army is saying about it. i'll talk to her family's lawyer, next. about it. i'll talk to her family's lawyer, next y any place. so, when you get a check... y any place. you can deposit it from here. and you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. you can detect suspicious activity
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the u.s. army is finally speaking out about the disappearance of a soldier from ft. hood. private first class hasn't been seen in more than two months. investigators say they suspect foul play in her disappearance. the army posted this message on its website saying we are very concerned for the welfare of pfc and we understand the frustration felt by the family, friends and fellow soldiers of vanessa. we're doing everything in our power to get her back and will not stop until we do. her family has accused the army of not being transparent.
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>> where is my sister? they know where she is and i want them to speak up. i want answers and i want them now. >> with me now isvanessa's fami. what more can you tell us about the latest in the search? >> at this point we have not been provided any of the information we have request. they have not been transparent so at this point we're demanding a congressional investigation. we have asked mr. cruz's office. we are reaching out to say every one this is time this soldier is found and we learn what happened and where she is. i have been getting phone calls from hundreds of braver soldiers, women who have experienced the same sexual harassment and abuse in military. they signed up to fight for our country. they didn't sign up to be sexually harassed, asaulgsaulte
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missing. >> i want to ask you about the sexual harassment claims. have there been any follow up to those allegations? >> they told us they would start investigating the sexual haras harassment claims. they didn't before because they didn't consider it criminal, which is so unfortunate. at this point, 60 days in, they are now looking into the sexual harassment claims she reported. >> the army has been spearheading this investigation but the family wants the fbi to take the lead. have you received any explanation for why it has not yet? >> no. they have not shared any information with us. they tndidn't share with us who called into work that day. they wouldn't share who called her into work. who she was working with. what time she left. what time she woke up. why she didn't check in. when she didn't check in at 3:00 p.m. and they counted for her at
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a check in, that was false information. they consented that she was not there at 3:00 p.m. there's a lot of holes in this story and our concern is we're not going to find vanessa without information. now we're asked the dod or somebody else comes in and does this investigation properly. unfortunately, there's a lot of cover ups going on at ft. hood. we need answers. >> when you talk about the holes, what are the key questions ta you as the attorney representing the family most want answered? >> we want to know who she was with that day. why didn't they share this information? she worked in the armory room where that requires three people at once to be there. no one can be in the rooms alone. you have to have a different person put ng the code. you have to have a different person going in doing the work and another person as a key master. there were eyes and ears there
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all day long. there's no reason why she should have gone missing. there's cameras everywhere. there's security everywhere. how can somebody just go missing when there's all these eyes and ears there. we believe there's so much cover up going on that we can't even get one answer. one objective answer. when i asked did you subpoena sprints, they wouldn't tell me if they subpoenas sprints. i said i want to work with them and they refuse tods share who they investigated or what the reports came out to be. when somebody doesn't want to share the information, they are hoarding this information that family deserves to know. i've got to subpoena everything and this work will start all over when they should have done this investigation back when she was missing. >> all right. thank you. up next, the trump family is fighting amongst thems themselves. the president's niece wrote a book about the family.
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breaking news out of jackson, mississippi. the state house of representatives just voted to change its state flag by a count of 91 to 23. this is an historic move has the flag has been flying over 126 years since 1894. the flag has been a source of tension for mississippi residents has the confederate flag emblem can incorporated into the design. the governor is expected to sign the bill into law today. a new york probate judge rejected the trump team's effort to block the president's niece mary trump's book. it's expected to be a tell-all of life inside the trump dynasty
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and a closer look at how donald trump came to be. joining me is msnbc contributor emily jane fox, a national correspondent for "vanity fair" and the author of "born trump: inside america's first family." emily, what more can you tell us about the expectations surrounding this tell-all? >> what we know about president trump is that he was incredibly close to his father, fred trump. any book detailing their relationship, detailing the inside juice within the trump family, and i know this because i wrote a book about the inside juice within the trump family, is likely to really hit a nerve and to get under his skin. it is unclear how personal it gets, because we have not yet read the contents of this book. but i can tell you it will strike a nerve with the president. and it's coming at a time that's very close to the election, and who knows what the reaction could be within the white house? >> it is, as you've said, very likely to strike a nerve with
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the president. twl we don't have many details on it. yet the description from the publisher suggests the book uses mary's education and background in mental health to draw conclusions about her family's dysfunctional and strange relationship. i wonder what you make of that description. >> what's interesting to me is we've seen many books that are detailed accounts, either within the trump family or the trump white house. what we haven't seen is an author willing to take the extra step and give a diagnosis. and many psychologists throughout the last five years have been reticent to actually make a judgment or a diagnosis call. this is an interesting combination of the two of those things. it's an inside account and a clinical diagnosis as the book describes. i'm curious to see what her diagnosis will be and what that will mean for the squabble within the trump family. it's definitely a different take than we've seen in previous books and it combines two things
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we haven't seen combined before. >> part of the reason this is interesting is of course because it has already become litigious. i wonder what you make of that added component to the story. >> well, there has been nothing better for books around the trump white house or the trump family than a presidential spat. when the president tweets about a book, it increases the sales of the book. he hasn't quite learned to just stay quiet about a book which i think would be the best thing if he didn't want people to read it. i think what is interesting is, there have been a number of threats of lawsuits, legal letters sent or lawsuits filed. i would be very surprised if the president follows through with any of these lawsuits. it would open him up to discovery. it would open him up to lawyers potentially getting their hands on explosive documents from his tax returns to a number of business records. i can't imagine that a sitting president would open himself up to discovery in that way. that's why you haven't seen the president really press forward with a lot of the legal threats
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he's made on the book. we saw him threaten a lawsuit against omarosa for her book, and he's done it for john bolton's book, and "fire and fury." it's unusual for me to think of a sitting president opening himself up to a legal suit. there's always a threat, and even though the president likes to execute his threat, it's very good whfor the authors when the president gives the book a spotlight. >> is there a possibility of there could be a delay between now and election day? >> it could hold this up, but simon & schuster has a team of lawyers on overdrive and they're intent on publishing the book when they intend to public it. >> emily jane fox, thank you for your time. i'm alicia menendez.
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"politicsnation." tonight's lead, historic opportunity or a missed opportunity? earlier this month, as protests around police accountability and black lives increasingly consumed the nation, president trump and the republican party responded to democrats' sweeping reform legislation with an out of character effort of their own. but in just over a month, that push to rein in police violence at the federal level has gone from fresh debate to stalemate. with the president back on the campaign trail now, or maybe not, as covid-19 numbers spike nationwide, gone is even the lip service to curtailing police misconduct. instead, president trump falls back on race, both in rallies and on twitter, casting the movement for black lives
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