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serious matter, and nothing's been done about it if it's true for these past four or five months. may look like he was negligent. >> certain states have paused or rolled back reopening. california like texas closing bars in several counties as cases refuse to slow. more than 126,000 have now died with more than two and a half million cases in the united states. the vice president was in texas this afternoon. and he seems to reverse his reluctance to suggest to wear masks. >> the president leading the task force. part of our guidelines opening up america, dpep, encourage people to wear facial coverings where social distancing was not possible. our mpgs is promoting a practice on behalf of the administration. the task force and the president

will continue to do that. >> also breaking tonight, mississippi joins the rest of the union by removing the rebel battle symbol from its own flag. state law enforcements voted overwhe overwhelmly to change it. here to discuss, new york times white house koerpd roddy nen, michael star hoffman, democratic strategist and founder of northern star strategies. doctor, we'll start with you first. yesterday, depending which numbers you looked at, well it didn't really matter. there were several states that had hit brand-new single day records. the us hitting new single day records overall. what are you looking at right new? >> i'm see a catastrophe. it's a catastrophe. nothing is getting better. certain states are getting better. here in new york, after we went

through a hellish period, our local leadership, our mayor, our govrer did the right thing. they listened to the health data and followed the data. they shut down things and stayed at home. we didn't even if masks but now we have masks showing that it can protect or reduce the transmission of the virus. we know that physical distancing, these public health measures work, richard, but we're not seeing states widespread implement these measures. >> the task force, the white house, in their last briefing, are we hearing pieces of information that are satisfying the questions that are still out there, what are you going to do? >> i mean, the administration has continued to try and project confidence and try and project the fact that the worst of the virus is behind us. we saw that years ago. last weekend in tulsa where the

president staged a come-back rally. they are pretty eager to move on with the narrative, even though this is clearly not behind the republican government in texas. kind of turning back from some of the reopening that had gup. i think to keep an eye on will the president's rally schedule continue? will it go on now? the vice president pulled out some campaign travel for later this week. we will have to see if they learned a lesson from tulsa. if they've learned a lesson watching where the public sentiment is. or whether they keep going with a narrative that doesn't match the reality on the ground. >> the reality so important. the vice president seemingly reversing his reluctance as a mask as an important part in the battle against the virus when

you look at what the vice president has done. when you look at what mitch mcconnell, the majority leader out of the senate also holding up a mask. are we starting to see some cracks in the support of this president in the inconsistencies we've seen within the last 24, 48 hours? >> well, richard, i think you're seeing republicans send, in this case, the right message by wearing masks, by demonstrating that it is an important part of the continuing strategy to defeat this coronavirus. you know, i think it would mean a lot if the president wore a mask. i think it would send a very strong signal if he were to do so. so far all we've seen is that the mask wearing is limited to the vice president. i'd been limited to republican senator, to members of the administration, including the secretary of health and human services but the president has not donned a mask at least pupcally or for con tumgs assumption by the american people. that would billion an important change. at the end of the day there's

always so much signalling other republicans can do. a lot of folks will take their signals only from the president. it's going to matter whether he has a mask on or not. >> talk about signalling, let's listen to the vice president earlier today in texas. >> there was guidance throughout that applied to all the phases, and chief among them was that people should continue to practice good hygiene, wash your hands, avoid touching your face and wear a mask, everyone to wear a mask in the affected areas. wearing the mask is just a good idea. >> michael, your thoughts? >> i mean, the v.p.s can act like they've been saying that the whole time. the idea that wearing a mask is making you weaker, making you less of a map is what has contributed to what we're seeing across southern states. this idea that we're not all wearing masks to protect each

other. so now the lambs are being led to the slaughter and it's disgusting and sad to be honest about it because states like texas, states like florida are now going to see what we dealt with in new york and all of the upper northeast. it's unnecessary. if the president said 65,000 deaths was going to be the ceiling, well, now we're almost at 130. i can only imagine what we'll at come september 1st. >> is it too late, dr. roy, even if all these states are now the new ep centers of america, if they were to implement wide use of ppe. >> they need to implement it now. they need to implement this two months ago. >> isn't it too late? >> it's never too late. they -- but they need to do it. it captain be -- wortsds that only encourage, we recommend them doing this. i can't just drive a hundred miles an hour down any street, right? i'm not encouraged to wear a

seat belt. i'm required by law. >> what are we seeing with the vice president here discussing the issue of use of masks just within the last 24 hours not hearing the same thing from the vice president. will we see the president all ef a sudden potentially allow the discussion of using masks? is that even possible? >> the president just last week, i think, gave an interview the wall street jury room where he said he viewed match wearing not such a process that protects someone's only health but as a political statement, an anti-trump political statement. that's where he has -- it's true that mask wearing has become politicized in this country but the president has stated on the record that he sees it in a trump statement to wear a mask. we saw people coming into the

indoor rally last last weekend and discarding the masks given out to them there as they were here to support trump, we're not going to wear this. if we saw a change in trump, there would be quite a shift from where he is now. >> one of those drivers that everybody napds is the economy. he's watching it closely. that could be potentially a push to change his tone. as i look at the market futures, they're down at the moment. it was not a good week last week when we looked at the markets. this president watches the markets, decides many a time on how he will move and make his decisions based on that. do you think that might push him to change his tone on something as simple as masks here? >> well, i mean, just going to the macro level here for a second, richard, i think that the president this weekend has been subject to warnings from republicans across the board that he is in danger of losing

this election, and that will be a function of the public's view of his response on coronavirus, it will be a function of the economy as we know. some of these things are in his control. some of these things are not. so my guess is the president will be watching the economy very carefully. whether he'll change his behavior on masks, i'm dubious of. i think it will determine how much he's focussing message wise. we've got joun job numbers out this bring. we've got continue al data coming in based on what's happening in the stock market. so we'll have to see. but clearly, the president, if his focus is on re-election, this is a week when he's going to have to change course if something is going to change with respect to the arc of his campaign and the likelihood that he gets re-elects ltd. >> hhs secretary commented on this earlier today. take a listen. >> the window is closing. we have to act and people as individuals have to act

responsibly. we need to social distance. we need to wear our face coverings, if we're in settings where we can't social distance, particularly in these hot zones. >> the secretary here saying it may be too late to reverse this. the window could be closing. is the window also closing on this president as the polling at least in the states that are also seeing high increases in covid cases are going down in terms of support of this president? >> yeah. if you look at florida, for example, florida's a state where the president should be having huge gains in terms of 65 and up. instead, he's seeing his support plummet because older people are not only now losing their health insurance but they're seeing the president push for policies that are going to directly affect them. the victim is kind of the place we've been talking about today because of the video the president retweeted about white

supreme cysts. those people are extremely vulnerable by coronavirus. by telling people not to wear masks, by politicizing masks, he's killing his own supporters. that's why we see him in florida down double digits. in texas, it's almost tied. in states like georgia, joe biden is up by one. he's going to lose not only suburban women but he'll lose white people over the age of 65. that's something i don't think that's been done since nixon. >> we're looking at the numbers to try to understand what this administration as well as state leadership might employ going forward. california, for example, asking for bars to close down. dr. roy, when might we see the death toll pick up right now? so far at least looking at the 14 trailing average, the seven-day trailing average, good thing, it's staying low. but might we see that death rate go up?

>> that's a good question. it goes back to what dr. fauchi said. the deaths are a late indicator. they willing. even the cases lag. so we're seeing a lot of cases we're going to see a lot of deaths which was just harrowing to think of, right. we're already at 126,000. it'sy going to go up unless every state really just hunkers down and practices the public preventive health care measures. >> waiting for those number to come down. we'll see next week. thank you all. our contributors here. thank you all. up next, congressman ami barrow joins us. the measures that they're undertaking to try and stop the new spike in cases in the state as well as why he's supporting a sweeping police reform package. a sweeping police reform package uy

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>> with coronavirus cases spiking, governors in states including california have begun closing bars and other maces where crowds could gather. the convention scheduled in august in jacksonville, florida, inside tan area that holds 15,000 people. this week, 200 florida doctors signed on to a letters that calls into decision to hold the convention medically disrespectful to the citizens of this city. we bring in biden's surrogate, also a medical doctor. representative, thanks for being here with us. >> thanks for having me on. >> let's talk about california, your home state. it seemed -- and the question's been asked since we're watching the recent spike in california that if early on, quickly, compared to other states, had

the right procedures in place, those watching this space carefully might say. but then what happened? >> we did a good job on the front end in terms of staying at home, mitigating the spread of the virus, but then as we slowly started to open up and also started to get out there, younger folks started to get out there, you've seen the cases go up. we've seen hospitalizations continue to go up. so i think they're doing the right thing by dialing back here. >> when you see some of the coups especially affected, especially in california, the four states of california, the five states of california, the six states of california, because it's such a large and diverse state. what areas are you watching and concerned about in terms of the increase of covid cases, and what those particular political leaders are doing. >> certainly down in southern california in los angeles county, orange county, you never really saw the case numbers go

down significantly, so that's where you're seeing the largest number of cases, but even in like areas, sacramento county, you're starting to see the case numbers go up, hospitalizations go up. the virus is out there, it's still circulating. we've got to be cautious. we've got to wear our facemasks. we've got to physically distance ourselves. and and continue to practice good hygiene. we're going to have to step back at times when we see the virus cases go up. >> i mentioned the republican convention. you're a biden surrogate as well. how is election going to fare -- not that you have the only crystal ball in the game here, representative -- but how is it being discussed right now in the biden campaign in terms of how we might handle these up and downs of the virus? >> bide eb has been very clear that first and foremost is

protecting people's lives. encouraging folks to wear masks. he wears faes masks when he goes out. we wish president trump would show some leadership and do that. obviously he's not doing that. the fact that president trump, the administration wants to affordable care act at a tile when people need their kovrmgs, that is absolutely higher than a presidential election. i'm not here to help president trump get re-elected but and biden talking the exact opposite, how he -- how do you make sure americans haven't security with -- go see your doctors and you don't have to worry about -- covid 19 so they can get the care that they need. that's what we -- >> for our viewers, that is not the representative's pet

parakeet. some there's some technical difficulties. i'm not sure if you can hear it as well. we're going to keep going locker. i wanted to move forward to something you signed on for, and that's a police reform bill coming out of the house. it looks like it's not going to make it much farther that that. do you think that the net and the house even though the house bill was somewhat by partisan that you could come together on a compromise bill moving forward for police reform? >> yeah. i would hope we could come up with a compromise bill i saw. he'ding the republican -- he said he's been talking to turned down loading the northwest the house and look at the country out there look at where the public sentiment is. they really do want it to be get back to law enforcement that is their protection, that is working with the community even talking to a lot of police chiefs in my district, they

recognize the need to reduce kind of the mill tarization of a peace force. you get the -- effort that we can do it. we all got the courage as democrats and republicans to have more conversations. >> representative, seems like anything's possible here. this is looked at not as the bill is stalling but you look at mississippi. we were just starting the show talking about that. the confederate sill bol. you have a story selling a lot of memorabilia with the cob fed rat symbol. a lot happening right now. >> there is this confluence. the method that's been paramount to president trump's three and a half years in office where he played the race card multiple times. then the pandemic has really thrown the health care disparities. then the economic despair. then george floyd just -- the murder of george floyd just

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arrest. it took a year and dproeing public outrage. but this year a special prosecutor has been involved. let's bring in a writer for the atlantan. let's start with that. that's what we've been watching just this weekend, what's coming out of aurora, colorado. you don't want to watch the body cam video and you don't want to listen to his voice. you want to at the same time because the story must be told. what's your reflection on how and what we're learning from elijah's case. >> it's just so hard and sad and heart breaking. it's hard not to get the incredible amount of sorrow for his family. what happened to him should not have ever happened to anyone and they shouldn't have taken pressure to get aurora authorities to do the right thing.

that's the thing i'm always baffled by but not necessarily surprised that people always you would pressure, what happens about doing the right thing in the moment? there's nothing in this case that indicated it should have taken us to be outraged in order to get authorities there to have independent investigations or the governor to also put someone in charge of overlooking and seeing if everything was followed appropriately to see if criminal charges would be filed. and this has been said and we've discussed police reform many times, is that the police cannot be in charming of policing themselves. that is clearly a recipe for failure, and every time that happens, we have to rely on extreme outside pressure to get them to even do the most minimal things, and so it's just hard not to be just heart broken and outraged at black lives being taken.

>> we have some developments over the weekend that might shed a flint of light. in utah, a republican governor signing a law saying you cannot put a neon in that. that is something the democrats and three republicans are trying to get through the house but doesn't look like that will be successful. another potential glitch is out of mississippi, looking at the removal of a confederate symbol that's brought so much sadness to the country. >> yeah. this is why -- one of the many reasons i chose to go into this. it's one of those things that has a lot of capacity to instigate change and mississippi was so wed method this confederate symbol. i think most people never thought this would happen. it didn't actually fit that pattern unless they decided to

do something about this flag, and after that, the positive change, the long-awaited change that should have been done. we don't do a lot of things together in this country. we don't worship together. we all eat with people that we know, forces that one thing that people can get behind when you threaten, take away sometimes -- or when their favorite athlete says, hey you need to pay attention to this. >> speaking of which, we're going to get more redpleks for you on what you've been watching on sports. let's hear a little bit of what coach k. of university said. >> black lives matter. we should be saying it every day. it's not political. this is not a political statement. it's a human rights statement.

>> and if you listen to all of it right here tomorrow, it's strong. it is powerful. what do you think? >> hey, coach k., by being coaches of basketball and so far, especially in sports where you have predoll understandly african-americans who play it, they play in the homes, they don't just sell what they can use. what they tell them is that they will groulx them, teach them to be a leader and that investment doesn't just mean what they can do athletically. if you're going to have this kind of relationship and for that matter, get rich off of black athletes, then you need to care about their whole lives and who they are as people. coach k is a guy with a number of black leaders around his

ilci ilillustrious. if you are coaching black athletes, you should be first in the line to say "black lives matter". >> we can't finish the discussion without discussing bubba wallace. the sport's only black racer. he's been in the news a lot in the recent week after nascar banned fans from flying confederate flags. he said this quote, we won't see cops pepper spraying and shooting them with rubber bullets, will you, end quote. and talk to us about bubba wallace. you worried about him right now? >> well, of course i'm worried about him from the standpoint of you have to deal with i can only imagine the kind of hate that

bubba wallace is receiving. i can -- i can't even fathom it. i have no idea he's being a black philly jury room ills in a high profile portion i understand that -- you worry about mentally how much this wears on wallace. in the moment he may not be able to really fully realize how much he counted. that being said, i'm thankful for his sports. what he's saying is long overdue. i know y'all know the outcome of it. but independent of that nascar had some serious issues when it comes to race. him speaking up is going to go a long way helping with those issues. >> every time we go through this, as a journalist you know there's a moment that turns the corner. it might be in august during m.l.k.'s "i have a dream" anniversary, the speak. what are you looking for in terms of "the moment?"

>> i think what we need to do is take this momentum that started in the country and see it through. i've been on this for years and we discuss race and it's never been a conversation like this. there's never been this sense of urgency and level of accountability, so we need to take all of these moments with just everything and you hold people accountable. all these corporations and brands that are so eagerly saying black lives matter now, will you be saying black lives matter in december when we're not all in this moment. will you be saying when you look at your board rooms and notice that there's not a lot of representation of people of color or black people in your organization, will you have the same reckoning in your company

that is happening in this country. so that's the part i want to think of happening. it's easy to do this now when it's popular, when public support is behind it. can you do this if the public support is not there, if everybody's not watching you. so it's a real gut check moment for a lot of people. i think this needs to be a cascade of help, not just about one in particular. >> always a great conversation, janele. thanks for joining me. and not just because you're a 49ers fans. thank you so much. [ laughter ] >> on the vermg of plunging the world into a global recession. what's being done to prevent that? needles.

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beginning july 1st. australia, canada, japan, south korea and china. russia and brazil among those countries where if you're there, you will be barred from entering the eu. a major fwloe v blow for airlines, business and the econo economy. more than 15 million americans are estimated to travel to europe nully. joining me ron insana, krrks nbc ammist and commentatocommentato. david konig, airline reporter. ron, you know, it's a headline, eu and the issue is there's 20-plus countries that the united states is doing business with and now if you're in the united states you can't go to the eu to complete very

important business dealings and most likely because of reciprocation that we're not going to like the europeans -- let the europeans in, either. >> yeah and that's a problem all around. not only do we have a vast number of people traveling within the united states and business travel overseas for the airlines is generally far more lucrative. it's unlikely that individuals who are already reluctant to fly within our own borders are going to want to take those lines. that's problematic, not only for the airlines but for business more broadly. travel is going to have a dampening effect going forward even as we struggle with the virus now. >> the struggle with the virus, just look at the numbers from friday onward. the markets have not registered yet. we are seeing futures down at

the moment but boy, the airlines did not want to see what has happened within the last several days. how they going to react to that? >> this is just one more piece of bad news for them. the suflt airline industry this year bragging about a decade long hot streak, travel with mergers and competition, cutting fees and credit cards and they were doing very well and it all fell apart in just a few weeks. domestic travel has begun to recover slightly. it's still down about 80% from what it was a year ago. international travel is going to take a lot longer. business travel, especially business sber national travel is going to take even longer. that's a lucrative part of the business through the airlines. the biggest three in the united states, american, delta and united, this is a tough blow. it's going to depend how long

this goes on. this list is going to be reviewed every 14 days. the u.s. gets off the list, maybe the damage will be limited. >> a lot of discussion bmd the scenes between the yush commission as well as the united states. you're right. we'll find out day by day. tuesday is when we expect to get that list out. it's an important week for some numbers. the markets -- >> yeah. >> -- aring looing down for the moment but we've got jobs numbers. what might you expect to see in that? >> holiday short week july 4th falls on saturday so typically we get the unemployment report for the prior month on monday. instead, we'll get the weekly and the monthly employment report thursday morning. it's expected we'll see a rebound in jobs and the pace of jobless clals or those filing for unemployment insurance

benefits has slowed somewhat but we saw last week it was one and a half million americans once again. it's pakt of how quickly we recover, especially with states like texas, california, florida, rolling back some of their reopening measures. this may put a halt to any re-ememployment we would have seen over the summer. these pictures lag, at least the unemployment data do. it's hard to tell one month from the next that we're catching in real time. >> the u.s. travel association says. david you know that number well. when we see that sort of battering, you could maybe understand why airlines like american airlines are saying we're going to try to get, you know, back to full capacity,

normal capacity and move forward, but as you get that messaging out there, despite what the headlines are with covid cases and new ep snaerktss are they misaligning their message right now, american airlines? >> well, all the airlines are desperate for any revenue they can get. so far in their federal parallel protection money runs out at the end of september and no doubt be very large layoffs. they're looking at any way they can to get more people on the planes and better cautiously optimistic about the increase in domestic flying. americans making -- the decision to go to full capacity and give up any pretense of social distancing and joining united in that, american afrls, selling every seat on the plane if they

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we see is rest in peace ♪ >> that mother of two black sons was troubled by the death of george floyd and scared for her own sons. she released a music video titled "now i can't breathe" starring her two sons. as i was mentioned, telling the story what was it's like to raise them during this cultural moment. joining me now, katie london, host of "the people of power show with katie london" and her sons, kobe jaret and chad russell. thanks for joining us on this sunday night. >> thank you for having us. >> you betcha. i feel like we're all in the living room together. katie, i listened to your song a couple of times. and i just wanted to write down all the lyrics. i just -- the words were so poignant and powerful. and i know it's tough for you to select here. kitty, what is your favorite

passage in that, in this song particularly, of all the words that were written? >> it would probably be the beginning. what i said, you know, as a black mother, what do you tell your sons? they can tell you with their knees, they don't need guns. and it was almost like preparing my kids for what's out there. and i'm scared. i'm scared for them. because i raised them well. and they're honor students, they're good boys. but when they go outside, when they get in their cars, they're black men. and right now america doesn't see them as being great children or someone's child or they're my hearts. when they go out, i'm so scared for them right now, looking at the climate in america. >> kitty, how often do you think about that, and do you sometimes react in a very emotional way? do you cry going to sleep or you wake up or a moment hits you and you go, how could it be this way? i have two great sons, and i

have to worry about this so often. >> yes. after seeing the video with mr. floyd and him calling out for his mom, that just did something to my soul. because i could not imagine as a mother losing a child in that nature and watching a video over and over again. and my heart goes out to every mother who has lost a child due to violence. but for me, music was therapy. so i put my emotions into my words. and as i wrote the song, richard, i was crying. because i could just envision me burying my kids because of a random stop. >> wow. kobe, i'll start with you on this. what do you think of what your mom just said? and what did you think of the song, too? >> i thought the song was pretty powerful in conveying the

message of how everyone thinks about the whole situation. people are obviously scared and confused on what's happening in this country. we just want change to happen. >> chad, how does it make you feel when your mom says she is crying writing the words, really words to you and to your brother? when i see my mom cry about such serious issues, the world stops. >> yeah, i agree. when she told me that she was crying writing the lyrics, it really hits me. because sometimes when i go out, i do think about my mom all the time, i think about my family. and it's always that side thought of me of, will i make it back to hug them? will i be able to make them back to love them if i am ever stopped by something? so i believe with the message and video, it does create a relevant message that we have to

make a change. if that change comes, it will help us all. >> kitty, when did you first tell your two sons, hey, this is different, because you're black? >> well, i always had the conversation when they were smaller, because i always knew that one day, unfortunately, that someone probably would call them the "n" word. and as a black mother, you kind of have to prepare your children for their being treated differently. because of the skin color. fortunately, and i talked to them, they really never have gone through a lot of racial injustice. but it's not if, it's when, because as black men they're going to go through it. it's one of those things. it's really sad to say that, but you have to kind of prepare them for knowing. but i always tell them and reinforce them, that we are kings. i don't care if people hate you for who you are, remember who you came from.

>> kobe, quickly, in a sentence, how's your mom inspired you, especially with the success of this great song? >> my mom is inspiring me -- my mom is inspiring me to strive to advance through this harsh world, through this racial injustice -- i'm sorry. >> no -- >> i'm sorry, getting them to do this was hard, okay? >> we're feeling the same way here. i got to tell you, kobe, we're feeling the same way. great work, my friend kitty, thank you for spending the time. chad, you too, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> that does it for me tonight. coverage picks up tomorrow morning starting with "morning joe." have a great night.

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