tonight on "all in," it is a national emergency. new worries about the holiday weekend as covid cases surge across america. and the president holds a masks optional rally at mount rushmore. how we got here and what needs to happen to stop it from getting even worse. then new hope in the year's long battle to change the name of a washington, d.c. football team. and why trump just had a very, very bad month. when "all in" starts now. good evening in philadelphia. it's the 4th of july weekend, a weekend when americans usually travel to visit family and friends. but this year it is different because we're in the midst of a raging pandemic. experts have concluded that the last holiday, memorial day, coupled with states re-opening too soon led to the current spike in coronavirus cases that we're seeing across the country.

now here we are just over a month later and with an even bigger holiday. and coronavirus cases are surging, from florida to california. the associated press warns, quote, health experts agree this will be a pivotal moment in determining whether the nation slides into a deeper mess. the fear is that a weekend of crowded pool parties, picnics and parades will fuel the surge. and that fear is not unjustified. the l.a. times reports that even though cases are increasing in california, people are less and less afraid as the public has become more accustomed to the pandemic, californians have seemingly become less afraid of the highly contagious virus, even though it is no less infectious than it was in the winter. this is despite a record number of cases throughout the entire week. confirmed coronavirus cases are rising in 40 out of the 50 states. 40 out of 50 states. it's not just in the hot spots you keep hearing about like texas, like arizona, like texas, like california.

over the last few weeks, the percentage of positive tests has doubled in georgia, kansas, montana, michigan, missouri, tennessee, south carolina and ohio. in nevada it's tripled. in idaho it is five times higher. it matters that those positive tests are increasing. not just cases. if more people are being tested, a higher percentage of those people are getting sick. in arizona 85% of current inpatient beds and 91% of icu beds are in use. they're running out of space. today florida fell short of a single day record for new cases that was sent yesterday, but still saw nearly 9,500 new cases and 67 deaths. texas governor greg abbott who only yesterday mandated the use of masks across the state said today, quote, people are not comprehending the magnitude of the problem. maybe because governors like

abbott plowed ahead with reopening the state even as new cases continue to increase. maybe it is because the white house muzzled the cdc. a cdc spokesperson says we continue to ask from approval from the white house to hold briefings. we were not given approval. finally, we just stopped asking. we just stopped asking. the very agency tasked with handling the pandemic or maybe people are not comprehending the magnitude of the problem because important officials in the trump administration are having a fundamental misunderstanding of how this virus works. just today i spoke with peter navorro. listen what he told me. >> everybody thought, and this was a reasonable presumption, that come summer the heat and humidity would get rid of the virus. this looks like a weaponized virus, whether intentionally or unintentionally. >> first of all, nobody thought the disease would just go away

in warm weather. secondly, there is zero evidence this disease has been weaponized. america lost control of the pandemic because of poor leadership right here in america. now nbc news reports that rather than develop a strategy to get rid of the virus like every other country in the world has done, the new coronavirus message from the trump white house is we need to live with it. considering more than 130,000 americans have died from the virus, we need to live with it seems like a cruel response. right now if things continue on this path, there is every indication that the outbreak we are experiencing will only get worse. joining me now for more on what we are dealing with is the staff writer at the atlantic and co-creator of the covid tracking project which publishes and corrects data. a dire warning from covid-19 test providers. thank you for joining us. what do you make of this? you were part of the group that started tracking this, and the

numbers here are indicating that we do not have a handle on this. but as you know, that's not the story all over the world. other economies, other advanced societies like ours have managed this curve much better than america has. >> the u.s. response has been disastrous. that's the only thing to say about it. you know, if you look at the european union which once had about as many cases in the united states, you know also a complex, diverse, varied geographical unit, they got cases way low and are returning to normal life. you look at the united states, and we are bouncing back. we're confirming record number of cases. we've got hospitalizations rising, and i think we can all expect that deaths will turn up in the next couple of weeks. >> so i want to ask you about this because you understand the data far better than most of us do. donald trump keeps saying, it is not like anybody watching this believes it, but donald trump

keeps saying, we're testing more so we're getting more cases. now in specific instances like arizona and texas, what we're seeing is actually cases increasing at a rate faster than testing is increasing, so that lays waste to that argument. but generally speaking, i don't really know who buys this argument that testing is causal. you don't get more disease because you test more. you find more disease because you test more. >> that's correct. here's where it makes sense, in the early days of this outbreak we caught a small number of cases. i believe that the outbreak, there were more total infections during that early northeastern outbreak than there are right now, even though there are more confirmed cases now. however, if we continue along the path that we're on, and i don't think anyone has a plan to get us off of that path, then we'll reach a greater number of infections because, the truth is, the spring outbreak really

only torched the northeast, and the rest of the country a lot more people remain in serious danger here. and the governors of many states across the south and southwest did not take the kind of protective measures and swift action that governors did in the northeast, democrat and republican alike. and that's really what we're going to see here. there is -- we have already baked in a lot of transmission. we baked in a lot more infections. we have baked in more hospitalizations. we have baked in more death. so even though i think governor abbott is right to do the sorts of things he is doing now, two weeks ago, it would have been a lot more effective than it's going to be right now. >> i want to get your take on this new messaging from the white house i. spo. peter was telling me that the alcoholism and the depression and the drug abuse that results from being at home is worse than the disease itself.

the new message from the white house is we're going to have to live with this. this comes after trump talked about a vaccine being available by the end of the year and maybe by november, which people say is not possible. so now they're shifting, that you are going to have to need to live with it. tell me what you think of this. >> well, the truth is we're not going to be able to live with it. eventually every state that has a major outbreak will have to take major action. i hope that action can be reasonable and sustainable because it will be with us for a long time. because the u.s. allowed this outbreak to get so out of control now twice, we're going to be living with this for months and months and months. does that mean that we can lock down entire state economies? probably not. i don't know that we're going to get the federal backing that we need to sort of induce the coma of the economy that we saw worked well in europe. what are we going to have to do? we need to get more comfortable

with people being outdoors and moving around. we're going to have to come up with strategies that are more guardism than anything else. number one is protecting long term care facilities, protecting the most vulnerable, protecting black communities where people are dying at higher rates and much younger. people want to leave there is money behind that plan and l logistical support behind that plan. but the truth is, there is no money and a lot of places there is no plans. >> is there, given your studies, is there a good example of a country around the world that's put that plan in place saying, look, we don't have therapeutics and we don't have a vaccine, but here is how we will get through this if we do. >> most countries in europe are like that. most countries in europe took pretty strong measures, even

though they will continue to have flair-ups like in germany, they took strong measures. because they took strong measures and protected the most vulnerable among people and because they didn't force people to go back to work right away and they provided this safety net support, you were able to have situations where you could kind of put the economy on ice, really keep people on lockdown and then come out all at once. but that requires a coordinated national response and really in the case of the eu, a coordinated continental response coordinating between governments, and we just haven't seen that. they had better coordination between nations than we have between states here. you can't beat this thing fighting it state by state. what are we doing? we're fighting it state by state. >> alexis, thank you for the work that you have done. thank you for joining me tonight. a staff writer at the atlantic. joining me now for what needs to be done is slow the spread is dr. ezekiel emanuel. his new book is titled "which

country has the world's best fe health care?" . i'm going to guess it is not us. you really study this closely. given where we are now, i don't think you and i would have guessed that on july 3rd we would have seen more cases than in any day prior in the united states. what is the right thing to do? not what the white house is doing, but what is the right thing to can doing right now? >> well, i think you have to put into place all of the public health measures we have talked about. you have to have social distancing. you have to wear face masks in public. you have to have hand hygiene. you have to limit the number of people who can be in a crowd to ten. you have to put those in place. you have to, you know -- you cannot have indoor dining, bars going on. if you are going to open up beaches, which i think is a very

good idea because people do need to get outside, there is less transmission outside, you have to limit the number of people so you can maintain physical distancing. you can to make sure people are wearing masks when they're not swimming. these are the things. we know what to do. look, we saw a very good response in new jersey, new york and connecticut and a few other states like pennsylvania and illinois. it is not rocket science. as pointed out by alexis, you have that in europe. you have that in taiwan, south korea. you know, we do have a play book. it is not the case that we don't have a play book. we have a play book. we don't want to get into the play book. >> this is the interesting thing. right. so finding a vaccine is akin to rocket science. that's hard work. but this part isn't. the stuff that we know that public officials tell us we have to do to stop the spread is social distancing, masks, hand washing and then some method of figuring out what public gatherings or people working

outside the home do. i'm having trouble. you worked in government. i'm having trouble understanding where the institutional and political resistance to things like that have come from. in south dakota, the governor has said that we're celebrating freedom. >> this is not, this is not rocket science. the failure is at the top. it's called donald trump, mike pence and everyone that has taken lessons from them, greg abbott, ducey, all those people who have now had to reverse their, oh, it's not here, we don't have to worry about it attitude now understand, oh, yes, we have to worry about it. oh, yes, these public health measures have to be put in place. the exact problem is the top of the leadership. what is donald trump doing to now? he's going to mount rushmore, not requiring a face mask himself, not requiring people there to wear a face mask. he is telling you all the things

we should be doing is violating, and that is the fundamental problem as to why we're here july 3rd and we're no different than at the end of march. we have squandered the last four months, march, april, may, june. >> it's kind of unbelievable. >> yes. it's a serious problem because there is no -- i have no confidence that these guys, you know, if we get a vaccine will actually figure out how to make sure that all americans can access it, that people will get actually immunized. they are not capable of, you know, organizing a two-man parade for the 4th of july. >> let me ask you this, zeke. i'm not speaking out of school. you and i know each other, and i think you would describe yourself like this. but you guys who work in health and medicine and science are sort of a wanky sort. you probably don't have a lot of people who dislike you for the work that you do. yet, somehow we have politicized this to the point that the lieutenant governor of texas is getting into fights with fauci.

today i talked to -- i talked to peter navorro who says we shouldn't be listening to fauci. he's wrong. when did we politicize public health? >> i think when it gave us answers that we didn't like. the president thought if he ignored this, if he played it down, the stock market would stay up and everything would be fine. he'd be able to ride an economy into the election, which has been his metric, the stock market and therefore the economy supposedly. that's just not the case, you know. biology is not something you can bamboozle with rhetoric and smoke and mirrors. it will come at you. this is textbook epidemiology and it really didn't take, as you pointed out, any rocket science to figure out where this was going and what we needed to do to respond. let me say way back in march i and other people were saying, you want to open up the economy,

that's great. you can't open up the economy and expect people to return without a big flair. we do know what to do here, and we will get the economy back if we open up carefully. and, again, we shouldn't squander the whole summer because it is very important. the summer allows us to be out side. it reduces the transmission. we should make sure that people can go outside and, you know, behave safely, not overcrowd. unfortunately the mount rushmore event and the big fireworks on the mall are going to do exactly the opposite of what we need. this is a president who doesn't actually understand what washington and jefferson and lincoln and roosevelt stood for. these people stood for a union. let's bring ourselves together. and if it has to be hard, washington knew that. lincoln certainly knew that. if it has to be hard, we can get through it if we're all together. union was important to them. donald trump doesn't know

anything about bringing the country together. he's a guy that divides the whole country all the time only for his own advantage. that wasn't the case with those four presidents under mount rushmore. they knew what was important, bringing everyone together to fight a common enemy. that was important, and they knew it. >> thank you. i know you were talking about ways to creatively and safely open up the economy because we were doing it together on a show we hosted every week. hopefully someone will listen to you at some point. thank you for being with you, my friend. he was just talking about mount rushmore. tonight, there will be four presidents of mount rushmore and one impeached president putting thousands of lives at risk with a mask optional no social distance event. we will have a live report from calipari when we get back. when. ♪

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we will be having celebrations of american independence. we will have a large event on july 3rd. we told those folks that have concerned that they can stay home. but those who want to come and join us, we'll be giving out free face masks if they choose to wear one, but we won't be social distancing. we'll ask people to come and celebra celebrate. >> the governor of south dakota has been proudly declaring that there will be no social distancing at the president's

mount rushmore independence celebration tonight. more than 7,000 tickets have been issued for the mask optional event. no social distancing and masks optional. the republican mayor of rapid city, south dakota fears this will cause cases in the state to spike. >> we will have thousands of people shoulder to shoulder at these events. they will probably not disqualify themselves because they developed a cough for the day or the day before. the president is about to headline in just about an hour with no real attempt to social distance. an event with the potential to be a coronavirus super spreader event. you are looking at pictures now of mount rushmore. cal is a little bit away from that. he's at keystone, south dakota where there are some people protesting this event. give us a report of what the situation is near you. >> yeah. i'm about a mile and a half from people the pictures you are

seeing of where the president is. i'll get out of the way. protesters managed to get three vans into the middle of the road. this is one of two entryways into the park. they were able to disable the three vans and stop all traffic. traffic has been stopped for two hours. 45 minutes ago we saw the national guard move in. they arrested a number of people. they will now get those vans out of here. all the while this is going on, you have on the other side of the road trump supporters who are mocking the protesters in what i can only describe as a very sad scene where the protesters are screaming at the trump supporters and trump supporters are screaming back at the protesters. the nation was given these lands, the black hills, by the u.s. government in 1868, and then years later that was betrayed, betrayed by people mining for gold. and here we got, i'll just show you, as the police move up, the trump supporters are cheering them on.

there are still a few hundred people protesting. again, we're seeing that red lakota flag. they're still protesting, and i have a feeling it's going to get pretty ugly because they're going to try to forcibly remove these protesters. the ones remaining clearly want to be arrested. they will shortly be arrested. we have had the last warning given a number of times. it is clear police wanted to get these vans out of the area first and then move in. some more members of the lakota nation protesting on these rocks. just to finish the thought, ali, this is four indigenous peoples that live here, this is a sacred place. they view this as lands lost as a betrayal by the u.s. government. in 1980 the supreme court agreed this was a betral by the u.s. government. but it doesn't change the fact that the president is coming here, that he's likely going to speak about american history. people here are keenly aware of that, which has only sort of

raised tensions. it will be interesting to see how folks are getting into this rally. we have seen video where it is starting to fill up, so i don't think this action prevented people from getting in. but this road, as i said, has been shut now for about two hours. >> so i just want to underscore something you just said. in 1980 the supreme court upheld the claim that the united states broke its treaty obligations with the lakota su about mount rushmore. and they have said this is illegal, that donald trump is not supposed to be there. and this is not sort of a fan t idea. a lot of people saying, they never learned that part of it, that this is a treaty violation. >> yeah. and the supreme court put money in a trust, $100 million at the time in 1980. some people say it is about $1 billion now. they don't want the money. they want the land. this is incredibly sad.

you have trump supporters. some are saying go home. go home, leave. this is not your land. and you have indigenous members yelling back at them, this is exactly our land, and it has been our land for generations and it was taken for us. there is a lack of understanding. it doesn't matter what political side that you are on. there is a lack of understanding of the history of this place, the history of native americans in this country. and i interviewed somebody yesterday, which helped to organize this protest, and he said one of the problems here is that there is only 20 states that just don't teach this properly. so i don't blame people for not being armed with the knowledge. when you talk to some of the protesters, they will tell you, look, donald trump coming here we find offensive, but it allows us to have this conversation. this is conversation we will have even though we will hear from the president tonight on a variety of other subjects. >> all right, cal. we will stay close to you through the course of the evening as this developing. i don't know. would you be seeing when the president is coming in? are they getting in a different

way, or is that the only road in? >> he's going to chopper in. he's going to come in via air. >> got it. we got a picture of air force one right now making -- i think it looks like air force one. it's either that or a pan am jet. my eye sight these days is not good, but i'm going to bet that's air force one. i will ask my producers to figure out exactly where that is. i'm sorry. i don't have that information. but that is air force one. i want to bring in the democratic senator from california, served four terms representing that state. good to see you again. >> thank you. >> cal is going to cover the issue of the su nation and their concerns about mount rushmore. but there are two different things converging tonight. there is that issue, but there is the other one. the governor of south dakota who is saying that we are celebrating our liberty and liberty loving people can come out there and support without a

mask and without social distancing. i don't know when that became a thing. as you know, i'm not from america, so i didn't really understand that that's the way you all show your liberty lovingness, but this has become a weird cultural thing tonight that's more than a celebration of the 4th of july. >> to me the whole thing is upside down and inside out because i was raised in america, and i was taught when i was a little bit if you are sick you go to the doctor and you follow what the doctor says. and what trump is doing is the opposite. what the governor there is doing is the opposite. the best way to lose your liberty is to come down with covid-19. so what he is doing is not only going to a place with very painful memories for a whole minority group -- well, actually, we're looking at native americans here who have this painful history.

and i re-read it all today. and there he goes again going there where there is division. there is controversy. us versus them like he did in tulsa where there was this horrif horrific, horrific massacre of black americans in the 1900s. so it breaks my heart on this day, when we -- when we should be looking at the fact that we're all created equal and we all should treat each other with dignity and he's doing everything wrong. look, he is the worst failure in the world when it comes to handling covid. i don't care what party you're in. look at the numbers. they don't lie. we have the worst record here because he's -- instead of leading the nation, and i served with five presidents, three republicans. they would all lead the nation, right or wrong.

he's given it to 50 different governors, plus you have the territories, and that is no way to handle this. and americans are down -- i was thinking -- yeah, go ahead. >> and you point out very clearly that when you look at all major economies, countries that first saw coronavirus at the same time, everybody else has managed some flattening of curve. >> yes. >> including canada, by the way. everybody else has managed this. we haven't. you would think with 120 days to go until the election, this would be a way for the president to appeal to more people. but when he does what he's doing tonight, he's appealing to narrower and narrower constituencies. >> he's making a big mistake because if you look at the polling, if you believe the polling, most people believe it is important to wear a mask because that's the only tool we have until we really have a cure or a vaccine. that's the tool we have. you know, i was thinking if i was joe biden, he has so many slo

slogans. we have to take back the soul of america, that's beautiful. there is one he could use: vote for me. i won't kill you. what this guy is doing is just tragic. and i have never seen, again, anything like it. i unfortunately say that a lot. >> yeah. we're looking at pictures right now at the event at mount rushmore where they're showing air force one coming in for a landing. there is no social distancing. there's not even going to be an attempt at social distancing there. it is not even like an airplane which doesn't do a good job of social distancing where they leave the middle seat open. they are gathered right now for the landing of air force one. barbara boxer, thank you for joining us. coming up next, the washington d.c. nfl team say they're reviewing their name. the moment of reckoning after this.

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earlier this week, mississippi retired its state flag. the only state in the country whose banner included the confederate battle emblem. on tuesday the republican governor signed a law removing the flag from all over the state. that is a flag that mississippi has flown since 1894. and for more than a century, it seemed improvable. until now. the huge antiracist protests across the nation, coupled with growing public pressure seemed to have provided the momentum for change. it is not just in mississippi. racist symbols have been toppled all over the country. now we are perhaps seeing a similar moment about to take place in the nation's capital. after years, decades of pressure, washington's nfl team has launched a, quote, thorough review of its racist nickname. nbc's jeff bennett has the latest. >> reporter: tonight after mounting pressure, the nfl's

washington redskins announcing it will conduct a thorough review of the team name, which has long been condemned as a derogatory slur against native americans. the team owner dan snyder writing in a statement he wants input from others while taking into account the proud tradition and history of the franchise. it comes just one day after fedex, the team's most prominent sponsor, asked the team to change its name. fedex owns the naming rights to the stadium. nike appeared to remove the team's products from its website. nfl and snyder had defended the team's name for years. >> the name really means honor respect. >> roger goodell saying today he's supportive of this important step. a former player for the team also weighing in. >> i believe it should be changed. i think there has been enough public outcry from the group that feels like they're having marginalized as their image as a

mascot for an entire cultural identity. >> i'm a redskins fan for life. >> even with the name? >> even with the name. >> that would be like having a team called the n word. >> reporter: "the wall street journal" citing two people familiar with the matter saying th likely be renamed by the start of the 2020 season. >> what is happening now in america is so big and broad. things that have been improvable for decades are facing pressure to change. that pressure appears to have started with the black lives matter movement. overwhelmingly, americans are voicing their dissent. we're seeing massive, sometimes symbolic but important changes. joining me to talk about this is the executive director of thunder valley community development corporation. she is the daughter of the renowned activist leader of the

american indian movement. and the host of the edge of sports podcast. thank you both for being with me. i have to say, this feels different. there are protests. for as long as i remember, i recall the sort of conversations about names and symbols. something about right now feels different. and the fact that we're actually talking about things that affect indigenous people who never get attention in this country indicates to me that something has moved. >> i definitely agree that there is a prime opportunity right now to raise the invisibility of indigenous people like myself, like my community to the public consciousness. and it comes in waves, right? my father was very much a part of the movement in the '60s and '70s that raised the entire world's consciousness about the plight of the american indian here. but the seeds of this country are rotten. we will always have to fight in waves if we don't get to the root of the evil of this country

and that goes back to the constitution. it goes back to the catholic church that authorized the doctrine of discovery. it's reputeuating every jury ris prudence that relates to indian communities in this country. >> so what does success look like? is it symbolic stuff like this? do you see this as a beginning or end point. clearly it is not going to change the future of indian people in america if a team changes its name. >> absolutely it is an entry point. every victory is important in the long term fight for our people's liberation. in order for our liberation to happen, it has to coincide with the collective liberation of all people, black, brown, indigenous and even white americans especially. this nation has to go through a dekolization process where we

denounce white settler colonialism and move from there. that means revamping the education system. that root of where i spoke of before starts. that's how we raise white supremacists in this country. if we don't take aim in that manner, we will have to have that conversation where we're reeducating everybody about why a mascot is offensive. and the redskins is a start. but let's talk about the cleveland indians. let's talk about the grade school down the street that has indians as their mascots or warriors or chiefs or all those other things. the redskins is a start. it is a start of a domino. and i'm excited to see what happens next. >> let's talk about the cleveland indians. i have just received a statement from the cleveland indians as we were in this conversation say, quote, we are committed to engaging our community and appropriate stakeholders to determine the best path forward with regard to our team name.

give me context here, dave. i have always remembered conversations about the cleveland indians and the washington redskins and what we talked about, every local college and high school team. what's different now? >> well, what's different, of course, as you said is this 50 state national uprising against racism and white supremacy. that cannot be discounted. but we also have to speak about the fact that this movement has been going on for over 50 years, since the start of the movement. there has been this push for them to change their name. where i live here in the washington, d.c. area, for years amanda blackhorse, people have led the struggle on the ground here to change people's hearts and minds about the name that represents the city. this is a powerful moment right now. it is a powerful statement about these last couple months of absolutely brilliant and explosive volcanic activism but

a tribute to people who have been part of this struggle for decades because a mascot isn't just a masmascot. this harms children. the studies show that mascoting actually hurts native children. it is all about which side of history do you want to be on? for way too long dan snyder has been happy to be on the wrong side of history. >> what's the proximate cause, dave? when i think about nascar and i think about uncle ben's and following the accident ed ta fedex talking about the team, is it consumers? what is the actual proximate cause of making corporations, these are all corporations, be it the head of this line of change now? >> well, that's what's so interesting is that the corporations are waking up as if they're rip van win kl saying,

my goodness, this name is racist. and we have to understand it is not a case that they have just all of a sudden achieved some level of thinking about this that they didn't have before. it is because they're scared, quite frankly. they are scared because a new generation of people are waking up. and this generation by statistics is more left wing, it is less white and much more serious about organizing for their liberation. they want to get on the right side of that because they see them as their future consumers. they also understand it's not going to work if the football team in the nation's capital is named after a racial slur. >> thanks to both of you for analysis on this. good to see you. thank you for your analysis. still to come, june of 2020 may have been the worst month for the donald trump presidency. there was a lot that happened. we're going to talk about it next. next

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tonight we are exactly four months away from the november 3rd presidential election. and today donald trump is coming off one of the worst months of his presidency. it started on june 1st with the tear gassing of protesters in lafayette park, exercising their first amendment rights so that the president could have a photo op in front of a church. then june got even worse. donald trump was doing everything, from setbacks at the supreme court to a new surge in coronavirus cases to a recession and record job losses. now trump has had bad months before, but this june feels different. this is materially cost him. instead of broadening his base, he's deepening his commitment to the american fringe and america is not responding well to that. two reporters who followed trump's terrible month closely. thanks to both of you for being here. let me start with you. you could have taken lots of

months in the last four years and said, boy, this is a bad month for donald trump. he was impeached, the mueller report, he's investigating. but this is different because all of the polls including those in swing states are showing that americans are are showing that americans are departing from his vision of what america needs to be doing right now. a presidential candidate such as donald trump who is basically refusing to be anything other than he is and the maga national candidate that he sold his brand on in 2016, and you get into a situation where he's not willing to readjust to make certain amendments and fixes that certain advisers think he should make to improve his poll numbers against joe biden. you get into a situation where a good chunk of his campaign and administration apparatus is actually dominated by trying to comfort their boss, donald j. trump instead of actually trying to win, per se. what i'm talking about is

situations where there have been mul multiple meetings in the west wing with the president including something we reported on back in june where senior advisers on the campaign and in his west wing would present him with the polling data both public and the internal surveys they had with team trump and the trump campaign. there was a lot of data in there that did not look good for the president. instead of focusing on that and how to fix it, they spent a good deal of time highlighting to his face look at the enthusiasm gap between your base voters and joe biden's voters and also don't worry necessarily about the public polls because they don't necessarily factor in likely voters at this stage of the game, which is a little bit of a weird criticism from an inside perspective. so when so many of his senior aides are focused on making him feel better instead of fixing, not all of them but a lot of them, it's no surprise he's in this ditch that a lot of them aren't sure he can dig himself out of. >> you know, if you look back to

the beginning of the coronavirus stuff when there was just a few cases, a handful of cases, you could see that either donald trump or his advisers had told him this is going to be really bad for you if it gets serious. that's why he kept down playing it. when the social unrest started after george floyd, it was clear at that point he'd already lost control of the coronavirus situation, but that is something that he had no actual ability to make the right decisions on. at this point with the protests and the speed with which they've picked up, i don't know that there was any way that donald trump could have recovered from that. >> the other piece of this that's important when we talk about the protest movement that's really exploded over the last several weeks, is that trump simultaneously has decided to jetison any advice his own instincts. the choice he's made is that he's just going to disregard things that people like jared kushner and other criminal justice advocates are pushing him to take even small steps,

even symbolic steps. in the coming weeks and months there is only the most vanishingly small likelihood, if any th any, that trump will do anything that could be seen as conciliatory, supportive or friendly to what these protesters are looking for. instead he's going to move his campaign into a strategy of solely appealing to his base, solely appealing to the very pro-law enforcement, very right wing group of voters who made him president in the first place. it's going to be a campaign of division. it's going to be a campaign designed to get those voters angry and excited. we're not going to see any efforts from the president to reach out to the middle, to reach out to people who have taken to the streets over the last months to protest police brutality and racism. >> it is kind of interesting, though, the idea that he's narrowed his base. the things he's gotten himself involved in in june protecting the names of confederate bases, bases that were named after confederate generals,

confederate monuments, the changing of cultural icons for which nobody really stands. i mean, the argument that this is all american heritage, there's nobody out in america tonight who's really going to lose it if a couple of sports teams change their names. he has decided to go deeper with a narrower crowd than go broader with a bigger crowd? >> right, and not to make too much of a "mean girls" references but it is one of the fetches that president trump is failing to make happen in the final four months of his election, and it's not just the, oh, protect our beautiful monuments and heritage argument that he keeps throwing out right now. as we reported earlier today at the daily beast, one of president trump's main gripes behind the scenes over the past month is we have not one, but two positive jobs reports that have gone out, he hasn't seen the uptick that he and some of his aides have expected or deeply desired from the american voter populous, and this is

something that he really believes if someone like joe biden were present they would want to erect statues for this supposed economic rejuvenation as he has spun it in his mind, so when you mention talk about the statues or the mildly kind of sort of signs of improvement in the u.s. economy, the situation where trump keeps wondering why the vast majority of americans aren't with him, and it turns out the vast majority of americans very much are not, at least at this moment in time. >> thank you to the two of you. we appreciate the constant reporting that you provide us with on your beats. we appreciate your time tonight. we'll be right back with more of this super sized holiday weekend edition of "all in" right after this. eekend edition of "all in" right after this and tailored recommendations. that's the clarity you get with fidelity wealth management.

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tonight later this hour, the president is holding an independence day celebration in south dakota at mount rushmore. it's an event where as you can see from the moment the chairs were laid out earlier today, there's no social distancing. the republican governor of the state has said that while masks would be available to anyone who wanted one, quote, the event would not require social distancing or masks. so the president is set to speak to thousands of people at mount rushmore later this hour where there will be no social distancing and masks are optional, but this is not the first time the president has done this sort of thing. back on june 20th, the president held his first rally in three months in tulsa, oklahoma, a state that was and continues to see a spike in coronavirus cases. the event was at an indoor arena which seats more than 19,000 people, so there was plenty of room to socially distance, but the president didn't want the appearance of social distancing. he wanted r