hey there, i'm joshua johnson. good to be with you tonight from nbc world news headquarters in new york. for two years robert mueller let his work speak for him. today he spoke for himself and against leniency for roger stone. president trump commuted mr. stone's sentence on multiple charges. the former special counsel wrote an op-ed about the president's long-time friend and aide. he also defended his investigation into the president and into russia's election interference. quote, the russia investigation was of paramount importance. stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. he remains a convicted felon and rightly so, unquote. robert mueller has steadfastly insisted on the necessity of this investigation. the president has steadfastly attacked it.

mueller addressed that too. quote, we made every decision in stone's case, as in all our cases, based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law. the women and men who conducted these investigations and prosecutions acted with the highest integrity. claims to the contrary are false, unquote. a senior member of robert mueller's team will share his thoughts a little later in the hour. we begin with coronavirus. as caseloads, death tolls and hospitalizations continue to rise across the country. we also saw president trump do something apparently for the first time. he wore a mask in public. it happened at walter reed national military medical center as he visited wounded soldiers and staff. here he is explaining his decision. >> i think it's a great thing to wear a mask. i've never been against masks. but i do believe they have a time and a place. >> doctors say the time and place are always in public and

anywhere you cannot socially distance. the point is to protect others from you if you are infected but do not know it. it may have been an option for the president, but it is becoming mandatory in more places. hours after the president's photo op, louisiana governor john bel edwards issued a statewide mask mandate. edwards also limited all bars in louisiana to carry out or delivery service. >> masks are now mandated statewide for everyone age 8 and older unless they have a major health condition that makes it difficult to wear a mask. >> and you'll have to wear a mask to enjoy a little disney magic. today at walt disney world, the magic kingdom and animal kingdom reopened for the first time in four months. epcot and hollywood studios open on friday. florida reported more than 11,000 new cases, again. the state is beginning to run out of hospital beds and testing supplies. covid-19 gives us plenty to

discuss with tonight's panel so let's dive right in. joining us are angela turner ford, mississippi's legislature has had an outbreak of coronavirus cases. also with us is dr. ebony hilton, an associate professor of anesthesiologist and critical care medicine and hayes brown is the post of buzzfeed's podcast "news o'clock." dr. hilton, let me start with you. when you see disney world reopening today as the cases and the hospitalizations are rising in florida, how do you view that? the theme parks, disney universal, seaworld, they all seem to be taking pretty aggressive measures to keep people safe, including turning away people at the gate if they don't have proper masks or if they have a fever. >> it's not enough. thank you for having me, for one. what we know is that florida just announced that 7,000 children were testing positive for covid-19.

and who tends to go to these theme parks but kids. what we're seeing across the nation is that our tests, although we're plateaued on how many tests we're performing, our positive cases are increasing and our death rates are starting to increase for the first time since mid-april. so this is not the time to go and have a festival at a park to ride rides. people are dying and we need to take this seriously. >> doctor, do you think there is any safe way that these parks, and we should note that universal is a corporate cousin of nbc through our parent company nbc universal. do you think there is any way for these parks to reopen safely right now? >> what we know with the parks is that it causes people to be packed into very close quarters. these rides, when you're inside it you scream and that again forces out more of these viral particles. it's just not the time. yes, we need to open our economy. yes, we need to stimulate the

growth and economic well-being of our nation. but we have to do it when it's right and we have to have the three ts of testing, trace and treatment in place before we can move forward safely. >> state senator ford, at last count 26 mississippi legislators have come down with covid-19. your colleagues just made news for removing the confederate battle flag from the state flag. how is mississippi doing now in taking care of both the residents and your colleagues? >> thank you, joshua, for having me on the panel this evening. the governor has actually signalled, governor reeves, has signalled that he's going to issue an executive order on monday requiring that 13 counties across the state be required -- that those citizens be required to wear a mask when they're in public and in social gatherings. there's some pushback but certainly there are positions that perhaps that approach is not strong enough. certainly it's a step in the right direction, so i think that

the governor is taking an approach that will push us toward safety. i just hope that the residents of mississippi will take heed. >> hayes, what impact do you think the video of president trump wearing a mask might have? masks have become a kind of political clapback or not wearing them has become a clapback against liberals and authority figures and the medical establishment. how might today's images which we're looking at right now affect that, if at all? >> i mean i'm really afraid that the horse has left the barn. the horse is five miles down the road and coming nowhere near the barn again. the thing is, for one, i'm very glad the president clearly has listened to his advisers and worn this mask at walter reed hospital. i'm glad that the president is finally taking precautions for people around him and showing that you should take precautions with people around you similar to the people at the white house around him. as far as whether this actually solves anything as far as the culture war that the president has helped push forward, i don't

know. i'm hopeful that the president's supporters will see this, that they will accept it. already on twitter some of the president's strongest advocates online are trying to show that the president is being strong, brave, courageous with this one fell stroke, the president has won the november election against joe biden. but it remains to be seen whether that has any real effect besides maybe some less trolling online. >> dr. hilton, minority communities, especially black and brown people, have borne the brunt of the covid-19 pandemic in the u.s. how do you see the efforts to address this right now? are we making progress? >> i think our progress is slow to be made. what we know is that we still don't have race and ethnicity reported for every case or for every death. that's inexcusable. at this point we know that racial health disparities did not start with covid-19, it won't end with covid-19. and what we're seeing, though, with this pandemic is that it

hasn't been of importance to the united states to determine why are black and brown people dying at higher rates from nearly every disease process that we have. this has been happening literally since the beginning of the united states when africans first came here. so with this pandemic, what we know is that black people have -- are 2.5 times more likely to die, you're 5 times more likely to be infected and it's not slowing. we know that african-americans tend to live in the south and it's the southwest, we're going to get the hispanics americans so the disparities i fear are going to continue to increase. >> state senator ford, i wonder what your sense is of mississippi's overall effort to fight covid-19, especially as it relates to your constituents and what they need right now? >> i would say initially it

was -- there was a dispute about if the governor's approach was fast or prompt enough. certainly now what i've seen in the numbers is that there is a shift where as early on it was about a 72% death rate among black people in mississippi, that number has decreased to about 51%. so i believe that individuals are taking care of themselves regardless of this clapback about wearing masks. what i've tended to see is members of the black community are masking themselves. they are trying to socially distance. and they are trying to do what's best, according to the cdc guidelines, regardless of all of the clapback that is going on throughout the nation and in other parts of the state. >> senator ford, would you repeat that statistic that you just said about mortality rates among black residents. would you say that one more time. >> 51% of the deaths that are currently being reported are among members of the black community in the state of mississippi. >> and you said that was down from 72%, was it?

>> yes, when the numbers were reported early on, end of march, first of april. so i think we've seen -- now, that's just based on the reports that were issued as of yesterday about 6:00, yesterday evening. >> what do you attribute the decrease in that proportion to, if anything. >> i'm wondering if the numbers are accurate. i think that some people are probably staying home. they may not be submitting themselves for testing. i believe that there is a downward trend in who's actually reporting and then there's the question also with what's going on as of this week, the outbreak at the capitol, i believe that those numbers are probably coming in more slowly than they're accurately being detected by the state health department so i think that there's a slow trend in the reports. >> by the way, it's worth noting that according to the census bureau, 38% of mississippi's population is black. so even with this decrease, it

is still dramatically disproportionate ly higher than the portion of black people in mississippi's population. h hayes, president trump said dr. anthony fauci has made a lot of mess takes in his handling of this pandemic. dr. fauci has done more interviews lately, contradicting what the president is saying, including how our fight against this outbreak is going. where do you see this discrepancy between the two of them going? is this just talk? is this more heat than light? or might this have a tangible impact? >> i mean with this president it's hard to say most times whether he's just talking, which he does a lot, or whether it will actually translate into action. i mean the thing that we -- let's be honest, we've all been on fauci watch 2020 since he first started appearing in front of cameras wondering when/if the president would put him on the back burner or fire him

altogether. as we're seeing fauci start to do more off camera interviews, doing more radio, more print, et cetera, it's going to be curious when the president takes notice and when he starts really leaning in to fauci and start issuing his tweets and riling up his base specifically against fauci. because everything that they're disagreeing on is -- fauci is following the science, whereas trump is following his political gut instincts and that's where that clash is lying. one of them is focused on re-election. the other is focusing on bringing the numbers down in this pandemic. >> mississippi state senator angela turner-ford and dr. ebony hilton, glad to have had you both with us. thanks very much. hayes, we've got much more to discuss with you and there's much more to come this hour. some college students face deportation over the coronavirus pandemic. california is among the states fighting that move. california congressman ted lieu joins us to discuss it, next.

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online only courses may be a safer option for students to avoid coronavirus, but that might not be an option for foreign college students who want to stay in the u.s. the trump administration is pushing hard for all school campuses to open this fall for in-person instruction. health officials, including at the cdc, say distance learning presents the lowest risk, but the administration is putting pressure behind its demand. on monday the government announced that colleges which go online only this fall may not admit international students, those students will not be granted visas. if they are in the u.s., they must leave. that is not sitting well with a number of university systems, including cal state and the university of california. both plan to teach mostly online this fall. last school year they enrolled more than 770,000 students combined. 71,000 were non-resident

international students. joining us now is democratic congressman ted lieu of california. he sits on the foreign affairs and judiciary committees. his district includes the coastal cities west of los angeles and long beach. congressman, good evening. >> thank you, joshua. >> regarding the trump administration's new visa guidance, what, if anything, can you see or cal state do about it? >> we see a pattern where when donald trump is down in the polls, he'll take an anti-immigration action. in this case they're going after international students, which is really quite ridiculous because international students benefit america. in fact the state department's own website says that u.s. welcomes international students and they provide a valuable contribution to our colleges and universities. we know that international students also contribute to the economy and to deport them because their college is trying to protect their health and safety with online courses is

really a ridiculous proposal. i hope the trump administration withdraws it. >> it's also worth noting that international students have been a boon to the universities because they pay full tuition. but if this remains the policy from the federal government it sounds like uc and cal state have to kind of take it. >> well, what would ending up happening, i suspect, is what usc recently did. they opened all their physical classes to international students to take for free so they simply go into one classroom, then they can stay. so it's basically going to force the ucs and ucla to do something similar which increases the risk of the spread of covid-19. so it's really just a dumb proposal by the trump administration. i don't really understand what the rationale is.

i know that ucla has over 7,000 international students in my district. it will be devastating for them if they all had to leave the country. >> looking at california more broadly, how did this covid-19 surge happen? governor newsom took this seriously from the beginning, many cities were cautious about reopening. what went wrong? >> so governor newsom has done a great job. at the beginning we were effective in suppressing the virus and then california, like all the other states, started to reopen. when you reopen, you're simply going to get more covid-19 cases. california has nearly 40 million people. and because of the number of people, that also increases the number of cases we have so now we just have to make sure that people wash their hands frequently, wear a mask in public, do social distancing, and we need to start getting this virus back under control. >> california has a significant asian and asian american population. students of asian descent are the largest racial group at most of the uc campuses, sometimes by

far. you are a taiwanese american, your family immigrated here when you were 3. how does this aspect of california's diversity shape the way that it fights covid-19? >> california has been one of the leaders in this fight. we have attracted the best and brightest in the world in terms of scientists and doctors to try to find a cure for covid-19. at the same time, we've been very strong in pushing back against hate incidents. we know that across america there's been over 1,900 asian american hate incidents. we have people who, for example, stabbed a family in texas who were asian american because they thought they were spreading covid-19. so we need to make sure we fight back and teach everyone that this virus knows no race or geography or party registration or ethnicity. everyone is at risk. >> there are so many nuances to the asian and asian american populations in california. a conversation for another day to dig deeper into that.

there is one more thing we want to ask you about before you go. you are among the democrats on the house judiciary committee who introduced an item last week that would penalize people who defy a subpoena for testimony or for documents. do we need this new law or is this a problem that's maybe more specific to the trump administration? >> we actually need to make this bill become lauchw. it would actually be a rules change for the house of representatives so we could simply do this in the house, we don't need senate concurrence. the house of representatives has always had the power of inherent contempt. the supreme court has upheld that power. it allows us to impose monetary fines to individuals who do not follow congressional subpoenas. my legislation introduced with others would go ahead and cause a rules change to allow us to execute this inherent contempt power and fine witnesses up to $100,000 if they don't comply

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president trump's commutation of roger stone's prison sentence has drawn a lot of criticism, including from the man whose investigation got stone convicted. today "the washington post" published an op-ed from former special counsel robert mueller. it reads in part, quote, the jury ultimately convicted stone of obstruction of a congressional investigation, five counts of making false statements to congress, and tampering with a witness. because his sentence has been commuted, he will not go to prison, but his conviction stands, unquote. the white house just issued a

statement minutes ago in response to mueller's op-ed. it reads in part, quote, mr. mueller should keep his promise to the american people and let the report, which fully exonerated the president, stand instead of pontificating in the editorial pages with more spin, unquote. president trump says stone was the victim of an unfair prosecution based on a sham investigation fueled by a hoax. critics say stone got the ultimate hook-up, one he did not deserve and one that insults our system of justice. the commutation itself is within a president's powers, the law allows it. but there is a difference between law and justice. it is something we have been debating for months, including in the streets across this country. the push for equal justice under the law drove many thousands of protesters to denounce police brutality and systemic racism. memorial day touched off a national reckoning after the police-involved killings of

george floyd, breonna taylor and so many others. law and justice have not worked the same way for them as it did for roger stone. so where does that leave us? hayes brown is back with us. also joining us is andrew weissman who was a member of robert mueller's team. also two former federal prosecutors, joyce vance and barbara mcquade. all three are msnbc legal analysts. before we get to hayes, we should note that in the white house's response, it says that the mueller report fully exonerated the president. that is not true. the mueller report was very clear that because of the purview of its investigation, it could not opine one way or the other as to whether or not the president could be charged with obstruction of justice. so that part of the white house's statement is not true. andrew, you were on robert mueller's team. what are your thoughts on the commutation and on mr. mueller's response to it?

>> well, i think there at this point is a decision because there's an open question here which is why did roger stone lie to congress repeatedly and why did he obstruct justice and why did he tamper with a witness? why was it necessity to have a commutation? and one of the things that a responsible department of justice would do at this point is put roger stone in the grand jury and ask him that question. there is nothing about a commutation that in any way immunizes roger stone from having to answer those questions. and if he were to lie in the grand jury the way he lied to congress, he could be prosecuted. there's nothing about what the president did that works prospectively. and i think it's really important for the public to get an answer to that question, because if there was nothing

there, why is it that roger stone lied to congress? and why is it that the president needed to commute his sentence? >> joyce, how do you assess whether a move like this commutation is both legal and/or just? what's the standard? >> so i think you asked just the right question, drawing that distinction between law and justice, because this commutation clearly falls within the president's constitutional powers. but it's no one's idea of justice for the president to give a pardon to someone who clearly insulated the president himself personally, if not from criminal charges then certainly from the specter of a very unsavory truth coming out. and you referenced initially how incorrect the white house's statement is because it's clear that the mueller report heavily redacted when it was released to

us, nonetheless did not exonerate the president. mueller said that had he not been hampered by people who didn't tell the truth and people who obstructed justice that maybe he would have looked at the evidence differently, but he was hampered by that obstruction. well, donald trump last night delivered us the final piece of evidence that bob mueller was missing. donald trump confirmed that roger stone's testimony would have implicated him in the worst sort of election rigging conduct and in essence convicted himself by delivering that commutation. it's not justice. >> barbara, this is not the first controversial commutation from this president. other presidents have also been highly criticized for questionable commutations and/or pardons. is this just kind of the thing that presidents do to varying degrees? are they kind of just bound by the nature of being president to commute a sentence or pardon someone in a way that someone takes issue with?

or is this qualitatively different? >> joshua, there have been pardons and commutations that are unpopular or have smelled of political rancor in the past, but what's different about this one is that president trump has pardoned someone who could directly implicate him. this is his own associate. this is someone who worked with him to protect him from congressional inquiry that would have exposed president trump's own involvement in the campaign and connections to russia and wikileaks. so you talk about the difference between law and justice. there is a difference between what a president can do. does he have the power to do this? absolutely. and what a president should do to achieve justice. and by using a commutation to not only reward someone who is close to him, an ally and associate, but really to protect himself is where i believe this power has beenabused, not just used. >> hayes, roger stone clearly got the hook-up.

it is the mother of all hook-ups. presidential enter venintervent. i love that shot of roger stone wearing a roger stone face mask and roger stone t shirt. that's going in the dictionary along hutzpah one of these days. put that next to breonna taylor and the prosecution over george floyd's death, et cetera. do they connect? >> i absolutely think they do connect in basically there is two forms of justice in this country and this is a stark example of that. that's what these protests have been about the whole time. it's not that, oh, the police are necessarily a bastion of evil. it's not that, oh, if only they would just follow -- it's will people follow the laws that have been written and are the laws being treated equally in their enforcement. in terms of black lives, that's clearly not the case. where if you are a black person and you have a broken taillight, you could be in a confrontation

with the police that leaves you dead. that's not the case for white individuals. and in the case of roger stone, anyone else who had been in this position, found guilty by a jury would be in jail starting next week. but because it is roger stone, because he has this direct line to the president who has this unchecked power to issue commutations and pardons, he has an out, he has a way to get out of it. the fact is that he's known that this whole time. he has bragged about it, he has pleaded with the president through the air waves and through friends. he all but said if you give me this, then i will make sure not to implicate you or as he put it, make up stories about the president. >> before we go, andrew, you worked for robert mueller. i've got to admire a man with an unshakeable stone face like mr. mueller has. he did his job, he did the work, the congressional hearings that he was involved with, he was very much like, yeah, no.

true. uh-huh. i mean he said he wasn't going to say much beyond the four corners of the report and he stuck to that. knowing robert mueller, andrew, this has got to make him crazy. what is your sense of how he personally has dealt with all of this? >> well, bob mueller is a marine first and foremost and also is a patriot. and i think for barb and joyce and me, he is somebody who basically walks on water. he has just such a sterling reputation. for him to issue an op-ed and for him to pen the letter that he did to attorney general barr after attorney general barr issued a so-called four-page summary criticizing the attorney general, those are for somebody like robert mueller extreme

steps. you know that he has to be fundamentally shaken to his core about what is going on at the department of justice and seeing the rule of law trampled on. >> when i saw that robert mueller had written an op-ed, i've got to say my first reaction was somebody hacked "the washington post" website. he wouldn't -- i was stunned that he wrote it at all, so the fact that he wrote it and still kind of confined his emotions to the facts of what happened was pretty extraordinary. so now we've heard from him, we've heard from the white house, and we've heard from roger stone about his newfound freedom. andrew weissmann, barbara mcquade, joyce vance, hayes brown, thanks very much. millions of americans are relying on unemployment benefits to get by during the pandemic. should those benefits continue? and if they don't, what that? n't

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the senate returns from its recess on july 20th. high on its agenda is a deadline to help people who lost their jobs because of the coronavirus pandemic. the additional unemployment benefit of $600 runs out at the end of this month. so there's no time to waste if congress wants to extend this. the trump administration says it supports another stimulus package. it does not support paying more in unemployment than a worker would make on their job. on top of that, a four-month federal moratorium on evictions is also about to expire. that could prompt a wave of evictions across the country and possibly the most foreclosures and evictions since the great depression. joining us now is chris lu, a senior fellow at the university of virginia's miller center and an assistant to president obama. also with us is maria hirohosa, the anchor of npr's latino usa.

chris, let me start with you. unemployment claims are down to about 1.3 million, a four-month low. layoff numbers are still high. some states who reopened businesses may have to close them again. we mentioned louisiana with bars reclosing. how much do you think this will affect the senate's decision-making on the unemployment benefit? >> well, it should affect them a lot, even that 1.3 million figure is still twice the highest ever registered during the great recession. right now about 33 million americans are getting some type of unemployment benefit. these are people that have to figure out how to make their rent payment and buy groceries. just this past month 32% of americans could not make their full housing or rental payment. so this is really a life-or-death situation for many people. i think it's easy to look at the top line numbers and say that the economy is recovering without sort of digging deeper within this. and the other problem with looking at these numbers that we've been seeing is that we

know that about 70% of the country right now is starting to pause their reopening. so there's every reason to believe that a lot of these unemployment numbers which frankly are bad are going to get much worse because ultimately the u.s. economy runs on confidence. it's confidence of businesses and workers and customers. and you can't have confidence when you've got a virus that's breaking out all around the country right now. >> maria, you've been reporting on undocumented workers who are also essential workers. they get no assistance and they have some of the highest covid-19 mortality rates in the country. what have you learned? >> well, actually, jason -- joshua, one of the pieces that we have on the air right now on latino usa is precisely this. it is one of my students who is in new york who is undocumented, whose parents were those essential workers. they couldn't apply for unemployment, they couldn't apply for any stimulus checks, they can't get nothing, and it's

a level of frustration. she says, look, we are the ones in the bronx who have been going into manhattan and essentially keeping the economy going. but we don't get anything for it. but you know, i was thinking, joshua, what would happen if in fact we had a federal response? what would happen if the federal government suddenly said, you know what, we're going to pay you to stay at home. you can stay at home and buy things and still try to keep the economy going, but the federal government is going to support you and pay you and come up with a plan because that's what the united states of america does. that's not what's happening. instead you have people literally freaking out right now, freaking out. >> chris, what about the potential for mass foreclosures, mass evictions? this week "the washington post" reported on unemployed tenants who can't make rent and are being evicted. what has to happen to prevent this or, chris, do you think it's maybe too late for that?

>> well, there are two things. one is to put more money into the hands of unemployed people either through enhanced unemployment benefits or through another set of stimulus checks. or it's to come up with some kind of forebearance on foreclosures. if people don't pay their rents or mortgages, that is a huge ripple effect that creates more uncertainty within the u.s. economy. the other thing we haven't talked about, we know there's a second wave of unemployment about to happen because state and local budgets are strapped right now. they are trying to figure out how to make their ends meet because states can't run deficits. so that's going to lead to police and teachers and firefighters losing their jobs the next couple of months so we need to provide relief across the board. there's a great way to do that. the house democrats have passed a bill in may and that's sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk. >> just to clarify what you said

when you said states can't run deficits, state law and federal laws are different. states have to balance their books, they're not allowed to roll over debts like the federal government is. >> that's exactly right, yes. >> maria, what's your sense of what's being done to help latinx people if these benefits run out with the caveat that these populations are very different in south florida where i'm from compared to in the bronx compared to long beach compared to chicago compared to mcallen, texas. there's no one size fits all latinx population, so what is your sense of whether these populations are being served based on what their needs are? >> right. and as you know, the complexity is also that not all latino and latinas are working class. there are upper class, professionals of every sort. i don't think that this

population right now feels that they are being seen or heard in general. i mean i'm thinking about the states where the virus has taken off. florida, texas, arizona, california still. what do all of these states have in common? they have latinos and latinas. what do we know about those particular workers right now is that they're continuing to go to work. so, you know, what we continue to have to say is that these are 135,000 lives plus, but the majority of them are black and latinos and latinas. and so we -- when you say what's going to help? this is the huge question, joshua. we are today, just before i went on the air, i got a text from a colleague who said my aunt just died. her husband died earlier this week, leaving four women without parents. this is outside of chicago,

mexican indigenous people. so this is not going away. no, there is no solution. so when you say who's going to take care of us? we're going to have to take care of ourselves. >> it's so -- it's almost inescapable for me that when you look at some of the states where these outbreaks are happening, i couldn't help hearing them in my head as florida, arizona, california, like when i saw the list, i was like, oh, there's a pattern here. >> don't forget texas. >> absolutely. and i think conversation for another day is that particular pattern and digging into that piece. already plenty of reporting on latino usa hosted by maria. chris lu, appreciate you both being with us. thanks very much. add new york to the list of cities with a visual monument to the black lives matter movement. this one on fifth avenue. it is no coincidence that the

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