another setback in the fight to contain the coronavirus. over the weekend, florida hit the highest single-day total of cases in the pandemic. also states are hobbling to contain this disease. and amid an increase in the number of coronavirus cases, the white house is seeking to discredit dr. anthony fauci. good morning, everybody. it is monday, july 13th, and i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover this

morning. the state of florida has shattered the all-time record for new cases of coronavirus in a single day, recording more than 15,000 cases on sunday. that is 3,000 more than the previous record set by new york state back in april. hospitalizations also increased in florida with more than 18,000 seeking treatment. despite the increase in cases, disney opened parts of its orlando park over the weekend, and governor ron desantis who was slow to enact restrictions and quick to lift them is set to reopen schools next month. here's wh ee's what admiral brer said about sending students back to school in the fall. >> i'm want to emphasize. i'm a pediatrician. we have to do this safely. kids not in school, risk their social and emotional health,

risk getting nutrition, child sexual abuse. it's really important to get kids physically back in school, but we do have to do that safely, and the first thing we need do is get the virus under control. when we get the virus more under control, then we can really think how we put children back in the classroom. >> so the president and members of his administration, they're ramping up the pressure on state and local leaders to reopen schools in the fall. during an interview on cnn yesterday, the education secretary betsy devos repeatedly pressed how the administration plans to have children safely return. here's what she had to say. >> can you assure students, teachers, parents that they will not get coronavirus because they're going back to school? >> well, the key is that kids have to get back to school. there is no -- nothing in the data that would suggest that kids being back in school is dangerous to them. it sounds like what you're saying is you as the secretary

of education is compelling -- you are compelling schools to reopen regardless of what's happening. >> no. what we're saying is kids need to be back in school. >> let's move on to what happens if there's an outbreak. what are experts telling you about the appropriate level of transmission for a school before it has to shut down? >> well, i know that that's an area that the cdc is helping to provide further insight into. i can't as a non-physician or a non-medical expert tell you precisely what to do in the case of one child in the classroom or five children in a classroom, but the key is every school should have plans for that situation to be able to pivot and ensure that kids can continue learning at a distance if they have to for a short period of time. >> you're the secretary of

education. you're asking students to go back. so why do you not have guidance on what a school should do just weeks before you want those schools to reopen, and what happens if it faces an outbreak? >> you know, there's really good examples that have been utilized in the private sector and elsewhere, also with frontline workers and hospitals. and all of that data and all of that information and all of those examples can be referenced by leaders who have the opportunity -- >> do you have a plan for what students and what schools should do? >> the plan -- so skals shou s >> the plan -- so skals shouchod do what's right on the ground at this time for their students and for their situation. >> okay. so we have more in another interview on fox news on sunday. secretary devos was questioned about the administration's threat to pull funding from schools that don't fully reopen

in the fall. >> under what authority are you and the president going to unilaterally cut off funding, the funding that has been approved from congress, and most of the money goes to disadvantaged students or students with disability, and, secondly, isn't cutting off funding exactly the wrong answer? don't you want to spend more money to make school safer, whether it's with plastic shields or health checks, various other systems? doesn't it make more sense to increase funding for schools where it's unsafe rather than cut off funding? >> look. american investment in education is a promise to students and their families. if schools aren't going to reopen and not fulfill that problem, they shouldn't get the funds. then give it to the families to decide to go to a school that is going to meet that promise. it's a promise to the american people. let's follow through on the promise. >> you can't do that. i know you support vouchers, and that's a reasonable argument,

but you can't do that unilaterally. you have to do that through congress. >> well, we're looking at all the options because it's a promise to the american people, to students and their families, and we want to make sure that promise is followed through on. >> safe to say, not a lot of straight answers there. but while this is happening, new york city wants the epicenter of the outbreak reporting its first death, the milestone marking the end of a four-month stretch. according to the cdc's health department, there's not been a day without a covid-related death since march 13th. that's two days since the first reported death. the progress is coming in the shadow of an ever-growing spike in other parts of the country. also, the white house is attempting to discredit infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci amid his dire warnings about the trump

administration's coronavirus response. a white house official telling nbc news yesterday this. several are concerned about the number of times dr. fauci has been wrong on things. the administration then shared a list with several news outlets that included nearly a dozen past comments by fauci, which a trump official had said ultimately proven erroneous. the list included his january comment that the virus was not a major threat, and his guidance in march that, quote, people should not be walking around with masks. meanwhile a senior administration official telling the "washington post" dr. fauci no longer tweets trump and is never in the oval office anymore. fauci last spoke to him during the first week of june. fauci has not yet comment on some of these reports. joining me now, white house and washington reporter for politico, daniel lippman. daniel, good morning to you. great to see you on this monday

morning. thank you for getting up early for us. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the latest report with regards to dr. fauci and his past assessment. what are you learning about the white house's effort to possibly discredit him? >> yeah. they're not happy with some of the comments that he's made on tv in the last week or so where he has said that the u.s. is not doing a good job containing this virus, and so they view it as implicit criticism of the president. and, you know, the focus right now is reopening the economy right now and getting a handle on that spike in cases, but clearly they think fauci only causes more press headlines that are negative for the president, and they, you know, want to discredit him a little bit. they really can't fire him since he's a career civil servant and there are no plans to do that right now, but it definitely is very unprecedent to have a white

house official sending talking point opposition research on a fellow member of the administration. >> meanwhile, if we're looking at polling throughout the entire pandemic, dr. anthony fauci has been held in incredibly high regard amongst the american people and they trust him and what he says about the spread of this pandemic. let's talk about getting back to schools here as there has been a lot of controversy over that, daniel. listen. i know a lot of folks here, a lot of frnds that i have. they are frustrated about the possibility that their schools may not fully reopen. in that same regard, though, they're worried about their children possibly getting sick or being superspreaders. there is a strong divide as we're seeing and as i played as to how to handle the reopening of schools. you have betsy devos saying you have to get schools open but not necessarily clear about the guideline if there is, in fact, an outbreak. then you have admiral giroir

saying we need to get this virus under control. it is important to get the schools open, but it's important not to have 15,000 cases in a state like florida. what are you hear something. >> yes. it's clearly a balancing act, and i think the trump administration is focused on opening the schools because of how the economic impact of having, you know, parents stay at home and unable to go to their jobs, you know. most people are not rich enough to hire full-time babysitters or people who are going to basically educate their kids during the day, and so they have not had a strategy to reopen schools. they haven't really met with, you know, unions since march -- early march, and so i think the onus right now is on local school districts and states to decide how they're going to reopen because it doesn't seem like there's a strategy from the federal level that's working properly.

>> yeah. it certainly does not. daniel lippman, stay close. i'm going to talk to you again in just a little bit, my friend. still ahead, everybody, president trump commutes the sentence of a longtime ally, robert stoechblt and in a rare moment, bob mueller breaks his silence. also, the president wears a face mask in public for the very first time. those stories and, of course, a check on your weather when we come back. check on your weather when we come back.

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welcome back. late friday president trump commuted the 40-month prison sentence of longtime ally roger stone who was due to report to prison on july 14th. the commutation came hours after roger stone's emergency motion to delay his surrender date to september due to the

coronavirus. the president called stone on a friday to personally deliver this news as the white house issued a lengthy statement attacking the investigation that produced the charges. it reads in part, this, quote, mr. stone was charged by the same prosecutors from the mueller investigation tasked with finding evidence of collusion with russia. the simple fact is that if the special counsel ha not been pursuing an absolutely baseless investigation, mr. stone would not be facing time in prison. stone was convicted of lying congress, witness tampering, and obstruction of the mueller investigation in a trial attorney general bill barr regarded as, quote, righteous. bill barr learned he was among the presidential advisers who advised against the commutation with the white house fearing political backlash on this. so former special counsel bob mueller responded to the statement with a defense of his

investigation. in an op-ed in the "washington post," mueller explained why stone was a central figure in his investigation of russian interference in the 2016 election. he writes in part this, quote, he commuted in 2016 with individuals known to us with russian intelligence officers and he claimed advance knowledge of wick kileakswikileaks' relea stolen by those russian intelligence officers. a jury later determined he lied repeatedly to members of congress. he lied by denying he had communicated with the trump campaign about the timing of wikileaks' releases, and he tampered with a witness, imploring him to stone wall congress. we make every decision in stone's case as in all our cases

based solely on the facts and the law and in accordance with the rule of law, claims to the contrary are false. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. good morning, danny. good to see you. >> good morning. welcome back. >> thank you. talk about commuting the sentence and how that could actually be better for roger stone than a pardon. >> generally as a prisoner, you want a pardon before a commutation because a pardon essentially erases a conviction. there are some aftereffects. a commutation shortens your sentence, maybe to zero in roger stone's case, but roger stone may actually prefer a commutation because if commuted, his verdict stands, and he can continue to appeal it. and during that time, he can assert his fifth amendment privilege. as a defense attorney, i would not allow a prisoner or a

defendant to talk about his case while his case is under appeal. so during that time, he can assert the fifth amount. and if someone wants to call him before a grand jury, then he has that privilege. with that pardon, that privilege erases because you couldn't possibly say anything that incriminates yourself because the crime has been deleted. >> so what does that look like then, asserting the fifth amendment if he plans to move forward. >> and take that one step further as to how the commutation, the effect it has on his appeal. >> he can continue to appeal his conviction. now, the odds are probably against that he could get a new trial or get his conviction overturned, but consider this. that could be years in the making, and, really, that helps president trump stall any chance that stone would be called before a grand jury. and more than that, it allows

stone and trump to perpetuate the russia hoax because during that appeal, that is time that roger stone can perpetuate the narrativ narrative. the entire investigation was baseless. and with the pardon, you can erase all of that. you can get called before the grand jury, before congress, and you can assert the fifth amendment. strangely people would prefer a pardon. stone may be a rare case that prefers the commutation to the pardon. >> we'll have to wait and see whether or not mueller does, in fact, once again testify as lindsey graham desires. danny cevallos, thanks again. great to see you, my friend. coming up this morning, a fire breaking out on a navy ship in san diego. what officials are saying exactly happened there. we're back in a moment. saying exactly happened there we're back in a moment (vo) audi e-tron. the next frontier of electric. get an exceptional offer at your local audi dealer.

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welcome back, everybody. actress kelly preston, wife of john travolta, has passed away after a two-year battle with cancer. he wrote, kelly's life and love will always be remembered. i will be taking time to be there for my children who have lost their mother, so give me in advance if you don't hear from us for a while. now, the couple had three children, one of whom died back in 2009 from a seizure. travolta and preston had one of the longest marriages in hollywood, celebrating their 28th wedding anniversary just last year. kelly preston was only 57 years old. all right. at least 21 people are hurt after a fire broke out on a ship at a u.s. naval base in san diego, california. officials say 17 sailors and four civilians are being treated at a hospital for non-life-threatening injuries. according to "the new york times," an explosion occurred after the fire started and the ship was evacuated.

smoke was seen billowing from the middle of the ship. it's unclear, though, what exactly started this fire. so for your first look at the forecast, i want to go to nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning, bill. it's been a while since i've seen you. you were off anld then i was of >> yes. reunited. >> and it feels kind of good. >> i'm was going to go there, but i thought i'd let you do that. it's exceptionally hot. one area,ite note a mi itarea, . at 2:00 right now it's 102 in phoenix. we have a heat dome sitting over the southwest. that's going to slide over texas as we go throughout the week and eventually toward the southeast.

temperatures will be warming up on the east coast toward the end of the week. we have a lot of heat advisories, heat warnings, 47 million people impacted. all the way through the panhandle of california. we have numerous record highs that could be broken today, including del rio. it could be 111. their old record is 106. for texas, it's pretty extreme heat. even through the middle of the week, it doesn't end. lubbock is going to be 108. how about washington, d.c.? you've had 17 days in a row at 90-plus. your all-time record is 21. so what's the forecast this week? of course, more 90s. yasmin, washington, d.c., could tie their all-time record on thursday, possibly break it on friday. as far as the only severe weather threats, we need know about isolated storms in north carolina and watch out, our friends in kansas and colorado. that d.c. has had a sneaky

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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. as cases are surging nationwide, there is a growing demand for covid testing, and that is straining labs working to deliver timely results. according to the "washington post," the delays are hampering efforts to contain the spread of the virus with some testing sites struggling to provide results in five to seven days and others taking even longer. the "post" is adding this, the long testing turn aurpd times are packing it impossible to replicate the central-step strategy used by other countries to effectively contain this virus. meanwhile areas have been stretched beyond capacity causing shortages of swabs, chemicals, and agents as far away as new york.

they've been plagued by testing problems as we've repeat lid talked about in the past on this program. in the past four months, testing expanded dramatically, but the federal government never fixed fundamental infrastructure problems, which creates a bigger issue. so for the first time since the start of this pandemic, the president wore a face mask in public. let me say that again. for the first time since the start of this pandemic, the president wore a face mask in public. it happened over the weekend during a visit to the military hospital. on saturday the president flew by hospital to the walter reed medical center in washington to meet wounded servicemembers and health care providers caring for covid patients. according to the "associated press" trump wore a mask in the hallway as his visit began, but he was not wearing one when he

stepped off the helicopter at the facility. since the beginning of the outbreak, the president repeatedly declined to wear a mask at rallies and other public events as we reported here as well, and according to the "associated press," he feared the mask would make him look weak and was concerned it shifted to the public health crisis rather than the economic recovery. as you may remember, the only other time trump was photographed during a mask was during a private part of a tour at a ford plant in michigan back in may. so there's a new ad from the lincoln project hitting the president on his response to the pandemic. >> there was a day earlier this year when our nation's intelligence and public health experts pleaded with donald trump to take the coronavirus seriously. did he listen? no. what did he do? he probably scrolled through his

twitter feed or daydreamed about his next rally or asked lindsey graham to play golf or ordered fewer tests. >> slow the testing down, please. >> and now more than 130,000 americans are dead. 3 million americans are sick. thousands more infected every day. tens of millions out of work, isolated from the world. and what does trump do? he tells us to live with it. >> the president is certainly not going to like waking up to that new ad. the president's election rally in portsmouth. >> announcer: new hampshire was set to take place over the weekend. low turnout also motivated the

last-minute decision to cancel this rally. new hampshire's governor said he would skip the event because of the coronavirus. one adviser to the trump camp told nbc news the weather was a, quote, convenient excuse to scrap the event. and as t"the new york times" is putting it. it was the third time in less than a month that the president's re-election campaign failed to relaunch as planned. in the lead-up to november, the biden camp could be seeing daylight in states that go completely red. so "the new york times" reporting that officials believe there is very real -- there is a very real possibility that joe biden can win in historically republican states like georgia and texas. as we know, coronavirus cases are surging in those states. they also argue the upcoming election can install a new group of democratic lawmakers that can help redraw legislative maps following this year's census, however, biden's camp is more

traditionally set on stages. michigan, wisconsin, north carolina, and florida. public and private polling showing the president trailing in michigan and wisconsin and running neck and neck with biden in conservative states like kansas and montana. let's get into this. once again, joining me is danny lippman of politico. we have seen crushing polls for the president showing him trailing joe biden. and when you think about red states like texas, like georgia, what do you make of this rise in pressure on bide on the beat the president in the 2020 election and the pressure on the trump camp to turn things around? >> so democrats feel like they have -- they want to press their advantage, and they want to have

a resounding victory, deliver a big mandate to get rid of trumpism and also ensure that he doesn't claim the election was rigged if it is pretty close. and so if it's a resounding result, then it's much harder for him to say that. they also want to help senators and congressmen who are running -- people running for those seats in those red states and also help the state legislative seats because it's important for redistricting with the 2020 census. redistricting starts in the year or two after. so if you're able to get the majority in any of those state legislatures, then you can rewrite the maps to benefit your party. and so that's one reason that democrats feel like this is a golden opportunity for them. >> when you see, daniel, biden gaining ground in states like texas and georgia, do you think there is any correlation between

that polling and the surges that we have seen in the coronavirus in those states? >> i think it's definitely connected because there are many people in those states who with their own eyes are seeing the results of opening too early, and they think maybe the trump administration has pressured the states to do that in a way that is not completely safe, and so, you know, they see the results and what's happening, and they blame the president, at least in part. and so that is helping biden to -- you know, it's unprecedent for democrats to be so close in a state like texas where we're only down one point. if texas is in trouble, then it's going to be a very difficult election for trump. >> astounding to see. daniel lippman, thank you. great to see you this morning. >> still ahead, in a bow to

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welcome back. the president gave an update on his workout routine over the weekend, and in the process he falsely claimed he plays less golf than president obama did. yesterday the president tweeted in part this. my exercise, quote/unquote, is playing almost ever during the week a quick round of golf. obama played more and much longer rounds, no problem. actually i play very fast. get a lot of work done on the golf course and also get a tiny bit of exercise. not bad. but according to one measure, trump has played golf only 44 fewer times than obama did during the course of his entire,

entire eight-year tenure in office, just a quick fact-check there. 262 days in the last three years plus and obama 306 times during eight years. >> so the nfl's washington redskins announced they will retire their 87-year-old name today. the impending move comes after renewed public pressure by the organization saying it would undertake a, quote, thorough review of name. one of the team sponsors fedex has also threatened to remove the name from the stadium. others have made demands as well, sources telling the "washington post" they will not reveal a new name until a later date because the preferred name is tied up in a trademark fight. let's go back to bill karins with a check on your forecast and take a look at the covid numbers. shocking to see some of the

numbers we have seen over the weekend, bill. in florida, 15,000 new coronavirus new confirmed cases in the last 24 hours. >> crazy. just to give you some perspective on that, yasmin. new york city, the highest was 12,000. florida was 15,000. and the numbers from new york was when people didn't know how it was being transmitted and how people were getting it. here's how it went yesterday. 58,349 new cases. that was on a sunday, which is eye-opening. usually numbers on the weekend are much lower. florida has the record for a sing single-day number of 15,300. we're over the mark that has tests positive. here's the seven-day average. right now we're above 60,000. that's the new record and that's the first time our seven-day average has been above 60,000

cases. this increase began about a month ago on june 14th. you see the direction. we have not hit the peak of this latest wave or whatever you want to call it. as far as the fatalities went, we're currently at the highest seven-day death rate since june 15th. right now there are 740 new deaths being reported each day. the number on sunday is a little lower, but you see on the end of the graph, we have gone up. i'd be curious this week to see if it continues to go up. so as far as the week ahead forecast, we will see a few afternoon thunderstorms in the forecast. boston, maine, new hampshire. also in the south, eastern north carolina. we've talked about the extreme heat. watch for thunderstorms in the middle of the week, heading for chicago by wednesday. and at the end of the week, we'll see strong thunderstorms heading into the mid-atlantic and northeast. this is typically, yasmin, the

third week that's the peek. it's usually the hottest week of the year. this week will not disappoint. hot pretty much from coast to coast. >> thank you, bill. still ahead, everybody, a look at how badly the retail industry has been hit by the pandemic. the stories driving your business day coming up. the stories driving your business day coming up

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welcome back. many businesses have been struggling due to the pandemic, but among the hardest hit might just be the retail industry. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum joins us. great to see you on this monday morning. talk us through this. >> no doubt about it. retailers across america were forced to shut their doors for many weeks to deal with the pandemic, and now we're getting some numbers through that show just how severe the impact on business has been. for the first quarter, operating

income fell by 58% compared with last year, not including walmart. first quarter income fell by 71%. so very stub substantial hit toe businesses. many businesses have taken cost-cutting measures to mitigate the impact and many have filed for bankruptcy as well. as part of the effort to mitigate the impact, the fed and treasury have taken measures to try to support the u.s. economy. "the wall street journal" is reporting that there have been disagreements between leaders at the fed and treasury, which have actually slowed the start of their flagship lending initiative. while the disagreements seem to be around the design of the initiatives, the "journal" suggests it's reflective of broader disagreement over approa approach. the treasury is more cautious about lending terms whereas the fed has reported more generous terms in borrowing. that's something to watch in the

coming weeks. back to you. can we talk about the disney parks' reopening here? as bill and i just mentioned, you had 15,000-plus cases in a matter of 24 hours over the weekend, florida really struggling with this pandemic right amidst all of this, you have disney world reopening in orlando. >> that's right. despite the outbreak, surge in florida, specifically on saturday we saw disney open up some of its parks, magic kingdom and animal kingdom opened and july 15th the hollywood studios are going to be open. there are safety measures in place, people are required to wear masks, but it seems people are not deterred on the whole from going back despite the virus numbers.

>> julianna tatelbaum live from london, thank you so much. up next a look at axios' one big thing and on "morning joe," debate opening schools continues as florida hits an all-time high for cases in a single day. and we'll look into the nbc reportings on the efforts to discredit the top infectious disease doctor in the nation. disease doctor in the nation

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it's stag erring corruption but i think it's important for people to know it's a threat to our national security. the whole impeachment process was about our national security. >> i think when that carest about the rule of law is nauseated by the fact that the president commuted the sentence of someone who lied for the president, intimidated witnesses, obstructed the investigation. it shouldn't matter if you are democrat or republican, this should be offensive to you if you care about the rule of law and justice. >> is this an impeachable

offense. >> it is if you abuse the pardon power to protect yourself from criminal liability. but if the republicans won't say a word, of course, they're not going to vote to impeach and convict. >> of course the major news we'll be discussing this afternoon, that was house speaker nancy pelosi and adam schiff denouncing the president's decision to commute roger stone's sentence calling it, quote, an impeachable offensive. >> and joining me now with a look at axios a.m., hans nichols. give us axios one big thing today? >> looking at joe biden's

foreign policy and how it would differ from donald trump. they're not going to have to do one or two challenges, they have to deal with multiple challenges across the globe. in reporting this, some of the most important things i picked up was the tone in their voice, the sense of thread in a confluence of crisis coming together, you have china and iran, and the coronavirus, and the coronavirus they're not just thinking about the if national, they're thinking a global food c crisis. biden, the hope is his muscle memory will kick in and this will be an appliances first strategy, opposed to america first. >> so if this is about reengaging with countries across the world, hans, during a biden

administration, how could other countries trust a biden administration, considering the fact that trump undid so much of what obama put into place? >> they acknowledge that challenge. this isn't simply showing up at the security conference and giving a speech. this isn't doing what they think the low hanging fruit is, rejoining the paris agreement or making a statement on the importance of nato. this is from day one on the presidency of joe biden should he win, how do you convince the world that america's word is its bond. they think because there's a dangers in capitols all across the country, they think the biden presidency an aberration and the trump is a true america. and the isolationism that trump represents is the default that

america snaps back to. they're aware of the challenges but they point back to joe biden has 40, 50 years experience talking to allies and has a lot of personal relationships he can try to draw on. >> a president is only as strong as the people he surrounds himself with. talk us through what you are learning about who would staff a biden west wing. >> there's a core biden team, you have anthony blinken, biden could be important -- blinken, excuse me, is important. you have susan rice potentially as vice president, samantha power as potentially secretary of state. you have mike and tom donlin, who have been with biden throughout his entire career. a lot of these folks were the obama team, i think we should note that.

but there was always a core gien team within the obama team. and biden and obama had serious policy differences during the presidency, libya, biden wasn't for intervening, biden wanted to keep mow bar rick in egypt. and most recently, and this cuts in less of the isolationist matter, but you had joe biden advocating for sending the ukrainians javelin mills and are president policy opposed to it. biden is skeptical of intervening in the middle east but he's more for the u.s. intervention across the globe than perhaps the president he served with, president barack obama. >> hans nichols great to see you this morning. love the animal mural in your background, i'm sure room raider

will be weighing in on that. >> the animals don't judge, except the owl. they're not judging you, never yazmin. >> we'll read axios a.m. in just a little bit. that does it for me on this monday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts now. >> everyone in the media was saying florida was going to be like new york or italy and that has not happened because we understood we had a diverse state, the outbreak was not uniform throughout the state and we had a tailored and measured approach that not only kept our numbers below what was predicted. >> you have a lot of people in your profession who waxed poetically for weeks how florida was going to be new york, wait two weeks. h ell we're eight weeks from that and it hasn't