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steps. because of the action the president took. it's among the reason the threat of the coronavirus remains low. >> standing here today i couldn't be more proud to stand alongside this president. >> we believe we are slowing the spread. >> we slowed the spread. >> we flattened the curve. we safe saved lives. >> we will largely have this coronavirus epidemic behind us by memorial weekend. >> republican voters against trump to take us off the air tonight. that is our wednesday effort. thank you so much for being here with us on behalf of all of our colleagues. good night from our temporary field headquarters. >> rachel has the night off but be assured she will be back tomorrow and it's a big show. there's a metric ton of
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stuff going on right now in the news. the supreme court says justice ruth baizer ginsberg is back home after undergoing an -- the home and doing well. the twitter accounts of the most famous people posted scamming sounding junk today. hackers broke into twitter. implications of that are far from reassuring. we're going to have more on that story coming up in the hour. but just in this last hour the president has changed up the leadership on his presidential campaign. his current campaign manager is being demoted and being replaced with the current deputy campaign manager. in other 2020 news we have new polling on the presidential race i didn't see coming. we have an interview with senator bernie sanders. as i said there's a lot going on but we begin tonight with the story that's reshaped all of our lives. in the time the white house promised we would nip this thing in the bud in 15 days. >> we're announcing new guidelines for every american to
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follow over the next 15 days as we combat the virus. >> the guidelines are a 15-day trial guideline. >> this guidance for the next 15 days. what you can do over the next 15 days to prevent the spread. >> our 15 days to stop the spread initiative. >> and if everybody in america does what we ask for over the next 15 days we will see a dramatic difference. >> much of what we're talking about is for the next 15 days. >> 15 days to slow the spread. that was in march. that was four months ago. and it was quite possibly the only time that this white house has been united behind a single message about how to address what is now an out of control crisis. they made 15 days to slow the spread powerpoint presentations. they made psas that ran online. they printed out the guidelines on paper to wave around at task force briefings and in tv interviews. despite the vigor with which white house officials shook
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those guidelines in the air the spread was not slowed in 15 days, and they did not stay committed to that single consistent message about how to address the coronavirus. ever since then the administration's approach to the pandemic has felt more like a bar fight than a cogent policy. over the past few days the white house has rolled outs a new strategy which involved publicly attacking and undercutting a key member of its own coronavirus task force, dr. anthony fauci. the start of it leaks to the press from anonymous white house staffers who were trying to tarnish dr. fauci's reputation at the same time he was speaking up about the seriousness of our current crisis. it continued today with one of the president's advisers writing an op-ed under his own name asserting that dr. fauci's medical advice is not to be trusted. with new infections on a meteoric rise in this country this is the new white house strategy. to publicly embarrass a well
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respected medical expert with a reputation for truth telling at the height of this crisis. today after days of taking it on the chin dr. fauci is speaking up. he told the atlantic magazine he finds the white house effort to discredit him bizarre. he called the attacks against him nonsense and completely wrong. quote, when the white house staff lets out something like this and the entire scientific and press community push back on it it ultimately hurts the president. bracing it as it is to see dr. fauci having to defend himself like this maybe his decision to fight back means the white house will back off. we can hope because the crisis we're in right now would be hard enough to solve if everyone in the administration were on the same page let alone if they were not attacking their top medical expert. there simply is not the time to waste. disney's forecasters at the university of washington have revised their prediction for how many americans will die from coronavirus. this was the very model that was once touted by the white house
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as the gold standard for mapping out the spread of the virus. forecasters believe that by november 1st the coronavirus death toll in this country will be just shy of a quarter million americans, by-election day just shy of a quarter million americans. that kind of prediction is of course disturbing to see, but in a way it's also the next step consequence of the out of control surge in cases that's ripping through the country right now. this week started off with texas, florida and california crushing through new case records. now it's nevada and oklahoma. today nevada hit a new record high for the number of covid patients hospitalized in the state. that is right on the heels of a record number for new infections that nevada sent yesterday. oklahoma reported a record number of new cases today. it was the first time the state has reported more than a thousand cases in a single day since the pandemic started. one of those cases, by the way, the governor himself.
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oklahoma's republican governor given stitt announced he's tested positive for coronavirus, the first american governor known to contract the virus. this by the way is the same oklahoma governor who just last week says he remains opposed to any kind of mask mandate in the state. and the governor hasn't changed his position. on requiring masks. quite the contrary. he says even though he tested positive himself he respects peoples right not to wear a mask if they so choose. we're hearing that sort of thing from republicans all over the country. the president's former white house doctor, ronny jackson, remember who just won his primary last night in his bid for congress said today that wearing a mask is a, quote, personal choice. this guy is a doctor. wearing a mask is what most scientists agree is an incredibly effective tool to slow the spread of coronavirus. the president's own cdc director says if we had a national mask mandate the united states could get the pandemic, quote, under
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control in one or two months. if we do it right we might get this under control in one or two months. and yet we are nowhere near that. in the absence of a national policy on masks only half the states in the country plus d.c. require mask wearing in public, which is why some american businesses have taken it upon themselves to act where 25 governors have not. wal-mart, sam's club, best buy, kroger, khols, big retailers from coast to coast are all requiring customers to wear a mask inside their store no matter what state you're in. regardless of a mandate. which means if you shop at a wal-mart in oklahoma it does not matter that the republican governor there thinks that it is your personal right not to wear a mask and possibly spread the infection. if you want to shop there you need to mask up. despite half the country being allowed by their governors to roam around maskless if they
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choose, there are signs that the tide may be changing in states that were slow to act on masks. today the governor of alabama became the newest governor -- the newest state to announce a mask requirement. republican governor cay ivy cited the surging caseload in alabama. she told her constituents she wasn't just asking them to wear masks, but, quote, pleading with the people of alabama to wear masks. alabama hit a new record number of coronavirus deaths today, its second one in a row. there are more than 1,700 new cases in alabama, the tenth day in a row that new infections were greater than a thousand. only 12% of alabama's icu beds are now available. 30 hospitals in the states have few or no icu beds left. the governor of alabama says her states numbers are, quote, definitely trending in the wrong direction. joining us now he instituted a
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local requirement of his own weeks ago in his corner of the state. i'm talking about the mayor of montgomery, alabama, steven reed. mayor, good to see you again. thank you for being with us. even in your state you instituted this mask requirement in montgomery i believe on june 17th, and it's valid i believe for a month if it's not renewed. i don't know what's happened since then but you did that because your city council failed to pass such a measure the night before. >> absolutely. and what we've seen since then has been a case growth rate cut in half. so we've seen positive statistics and data coming from our residents wearing masks and our businesses partnering with us to enforce that mask ordinance. at the state level we've seen the seven-day rolling average be about five times what it was at this time in june. so even though we're increasing statewide here in montgomery we're starting to see some better numbers because of the
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mask mandate we passed by executive order. now orb were city council has come back to put that into an ordinance so we're happy about that. and now with the governor coming online we're happy to have this going statewide, and we think had this been done maybe a bit sooner we'd be in a better position than we are right now. >> so you actually saw remarkable -- just to go back before june 17th you had had seen remarkable -- acceleration. you did this and now seeing fruits offense it in a reduction in the seven day rolling average. >> absolutely. we had seen our hospitalizations go up every month prior to this month that we could not sustain. since we decided to issue the executive order we're at our lowest level month over month in terms we've been with our hospitalizations with covid-19 than we've been since some time in april. so we've seen some positive data.
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we just have to keep it going and make sure we remind our residents we have to stay vigilant, we have to be disciplined about this and we have to try to make this something into a group effort that's not just about me. it is about those front line workers. it is about all the essential workers really helping our economy continue throughout this pandemic and make sure that we are willing to put ourselves into somewhat, and i say somewhat of an uncomfortable position by wearing a mask. because in the grand scheme it's really not that major of an issue unless you have a pre-existing condition, which allows you to be excluded from the mandated mask ordinance that we have right now. >> it's not that physically uncomfortable but it is representative of businesses that want to open, people who want to get back to work, parents who are worried about their kids and what they're going to do at the end of school. so it becomes difficult to know
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when to press the gas pedal or take your feet off of it a little bit, right, and that's the problem. we do get complacent. we see this reduction in seven day avageerages and start to think it's okay. everyone starts going out there. they're a little careless about their masks, a little careless about social distancing and we see their numbers come back. you had struggle getting this ordinance in place. how do you ensure we don't pull it off too quickly? >> i think what we have to do make sure we stay in front of the public and we remind them this is marathon not a sprint. this is something we're going to be dealing with months on end. we can't say by labor day or thanksgiving this is going to be over. we have to do our part, and i think if we continue to do that not only here in montgomery but throughout this state and the country then we will see some of these strains put on our hospital system ease a little bit because we have to be mindful in my opinion about medical professionals and those
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people who are keeping all of us safe and healthy, whether or not, we have covid-19 or we have another issue because we don't know when that strained work force is really going to be tapped beyond any level that we can imagine right now. so while we have the data, we have the information from the experts, we have to do our part and take personal responsibility and make sure that we are doing things in a way that is really protective of not just our health but the health of others. >> mayor, thank you for joining us this evening. it's good to see you again. montgomery, alabama, mayor steven reed. mayor reed is not the only local official in the country to have pushed out his own mask policy ahead of leaders in the state. florida has one of the fastest growing coronavirus outbreaks in the entire country. deaths are increasing. hospitals are full. the situation is dire, and yet florida does not have a statewide mask requirement. and just so like in montgomery, alabama, local officials in
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florida have been instituting their own local mask rules. palm beach county in florida instituted its mask requirement in june but there was something unique about this one. the mayor of palm beach county announced along with the new mandate the county would be mailing face masks anyone with a palm beach county address, two cloth masks and two disposable ones. the mayor said, quote, we want to make sure every member of this community no matter where you live has access to the personal equipment no matter where needed to keep you safe. they will ship out this friday. joining us now is the mayor of palm beach county, florida, dave kerner. obviously palm beach county the issue wasn't probably people getting masks but there's obviously some message involved in the city, the municipality actually sending it masks and saying, please, do your part, wear this. >> well, there is and it's not just the city. we're a county of 1.5 million
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people. it's a very diverse county, very large county. we've got 2,000 square miles, and we felt the most effective thing to combat coronavirus obviously is wearing a mask so we passed the ordinance, passed unanimously 7-0, bipartisan. and of course we went 1 step further which we think is very much warranted and that's actually mailing four masks to every resident of palm beach county. >> what have you seen in the way of push back? it's kind of amazing because we've seen these clips of county meetings, city hall meetings, many from florida where people are out there in force telling their elected officials they have a right not to wear a mask. did you get much push back in palm beach county? >> we were all over the news. we had anti-maskers who believe, a, it's ineffective or, b, we don't have the right to impose this. and we have been sued.
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florida is a unique state politically. it goes either way in presidential elections. we have a republican governor, but there's also a very passionate group of very conservative folks that live in palm beach county that make it their point to show up at the county commission meetings and fight every governmental action that we do. >> they've actually some of them the anti-maskers have filed a suit on june 30th in which the palm beach post reports they say the palm beach county has no authority to force treatments on any in palm beach county including but not limited forcing people to wear medical devices such as facial coverings the lawsuit states, and the only person who can order facial coverings is the state surgeon general. how do you think that's going to hold up in court, calling a mask a medical treatment. >> >> i'll confide in you and the viewers i am a lawyer.
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i have practiced constitutional law. i'm not acting as a lawyer right now but as county mayor. we don't comment on litigation, but if was wrong i will still go to sleep at night we did the right thing. and at the end of the day that's job number one. >> does that ultimately sway people because you think it would be. you'd think at some point you can leave your politics at the door and say the masks and social distancing seem to work, the other one isn't working particularly in florida? >> well, you know, i'd like to say i'm rarely surprised in politics and government anymore. i used to be a police officer for many years and i always remember if you were in a foot chase or a car chase you never had an officer in your ear yelling that you're an idiot or that you're wrong. it's always about teamwork. it's about help, and it's a very basic concept that wearing a mask will help your neighbor, it will help the business, help us move forward economically. it'll save the public health. and i've got to tell you i'm pretty surprised at the reaction we've seen from a very vocal minority.
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the numbers are starting to bear this out. our people are embracing the public health, embracing wearing a mask. they're embracing using our economy effectively but intelligently but keeping us all safe at the same time. so i think there are brighter times ahead. leadership comes from the top. and if it's not going to come from the federal government it's going to come from our local county mayors and city mayors. >> you skipped a level there. you're a state governor. if it's not going to come from the president i thought you should say it should come from the governor. that's not happening in your state. >> well, i'll tell you that the governor and i have worked very well together. we're in a safe place. that doesn't mean we're going to take our foot off the gas. we have a lot of thing going onto ensure the public health. i'm not the governor. i do know the governor has provided this county with all the resources that we need. and in the large counties like miami-dade, broward and palm beach we do have mandatory mask policies.
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and in jacksonville. but there's 67 counties. i don't want to substitute my judgment for our governor. i would rather that we be a team and that we use a surgeon scalpel here to find the right recipe for each community. in palm beach county i can tell you there will not be a day that goes by we don't have a public mask order for public health. we are a large urban county. >> i appreciate talking to you. palm beach county mayor dave kerner. we do have this breaking news tonight about the trump campaign shaking up its leadership. a wave of new polling today might help to explain why. we've got that news coming up and a conversation with senator bernie sanders right after this break. (vo) the time is coming for us to get out and go again. to visit all the places we didn't know meant so much. but we're all going at our own speed. at enterprise, peace-of-mind starts with our complete clean pledge,
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we continue to follow the breaking news of a shakeup at the president's campaign team. "the new york times" was first to report tonight that donald trump has demoted his 2020 campaign manager brad parscale, replacing him with his current deputy campaign manager bill steppian. parscale will stay on for digital and data operations which was his original job. he suffered something of a mortal wound in the job three weeks ago when a much hyped rally in tulsa, oklahoma, to reboot mr. trump's campaign was sparsely attended, end quote. the president confirmed the personnel changesane facebook post. writing i look forward to having an important and big second wind
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together as our poll numbers are rising fast. that is patently untrue. trump continues to hemorrhage support in the polls. new polling tonight from "the wall street journal" shows the president's handling of the coronavirus pan demming continues to hurt him in a head to head matchup against joe biden. joe biden now leads the president by 11 points nationally up from a 7 point gap in last month's poll. for those of you out there who tend to pooh-pooh national polling the same poll shows biden with a 12 point advantage in the contested battle ground states of arizona, colorado, florida, maine, michigan, minnesota, nevada, new hampshire, north carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin. 12 points. meanwhile support for the president's handling of the coronavirus pandemic continues to plummet. the latest poll shows voters overwhelmingly disapprove of the president's handling of the
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virus. only 37% now approve of trump's virus response. that's a drop of 6 points since last month. and it's easy to see why. trump continues to ignore the science and promote the wholesale reopening of the economy in the midst of the pandemic. voters are not similarly inclined. look at this. by more than 2-1 margin voters say they'd rather vote for a candidate who focuses their efforts on controlling the spread of the virus than one who focuses on reopening businesses. because the voters are not stupid. they get it. nearly three quarters of all respondents say they always wear a mask while out in public. here's something. the share of trump supporters who say they always wear a mask also jumped 15 points to over 50%, which is a small bit of positive news at a time when the held lines are focused on the explosion of new cases across the country and continuing shortages when it comes to
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timely testing and ppe supplies. meanwhile the health crisis continues to wreak havoc on the economy leaving millions of workers without paychecks and without health care. a new study this week found that from february to may more than 5 million american workers lost their health insurance coverage as a result of jobs destroyed by the pandemic. a separate study projects this figure could rise to over 10 million by the end of the year. and the bad economic news keeps on coming. today american airlines announced it plans to layoff or furlough 25,000 of its employees in october. that followed a similar notice from united airlines to 36,000 staff a week ago. both airlines say the need for cuts is due to a lack of demand but also because the congressional stimulus package given to the airlines ends on october 1st. the deadline facing many cash strapped americans will come even sooner. extended unemployment benefits, the ones passed by congress are due to run out by the end of the month for more than 30 million
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americans without further action by congress. and while the white house and republican leaders in congress appear eager to provide new federal funding to schools provided they comply with the president's goal of reopening in the fall the prospect of any further help to workers laid off through no fault of their own remains murky at best. while the future remains up in the air for the unemployed it is also very bad for low wage workers who still have their jobs. a brand new study finds that minimum wage workers who have their jobs cannot afford a one-bedroom rental in 95% of u.s. counties. a one-bedroom rental in 95% of u.s. counties is inaccessible to minimum wage workers. all these health and economic crises require policy solutions that appear to be sorely lacking in the current administration. since dropping out of the democratic race and endorsing joe biden in april vermont senator bernie sanders has been working on solutions. last week task forces convened
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by biden and sanders unveiled the results of this collaboration. it's this 110-page policy manual laying out their recommendations and priorities for addressing the economy, health care, climate, immigration, education and criminal justice. joining me now to discuss this and other topics vermont senator bernie sanders. senator, good to see you. thank you for joining us again. i want to talk to you about the success that at the moment -- it's early days but joe biden seems to be having among some of those voters with whom you really connected, people who felt that they have been cheated by the system and somehow believe donald trump's idea that he was going to help them out, he was going to make america great for them. it seems like people in rural counties, people in working counties are saying this isn't working i'm choosing biden. >> well, ali, i think that these people and most americans have caught onto the fact that donald trump is a total fraud. he is a hypocrite.
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he says one thing and he does something very, very, different. what we are seeing right now, for example, and i think working families all over this country understand it. tens of millions of people have lost their job as you just indicated, millions of people have lost their health insurance. people are struggling to put food on the table. people are deeply concerned by the millions being evicted from their apartments and homes. and yet in the midst of all this, in a rigged economy with massive income and wealth inequality you know what's going since the pandemic? on the richest 584 in this country have seen almost a $600 billion increase in their wealth. jeff bazos seeing a $70 billion increase in their wealth, so i think the american people are catching on that we need a government and an economy that works for ordinary people plot
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just the wealthy and the powerful. >> i want to ask you about the 5.4 million americans who have lost their health insurance. in fact, i want to quote you from "the new york times" headline. 5.4 million americans have lost their health insurance between february and may, a stretch in which more americans became uninsured because of job losses than have ever lost coverage in a single year. that number is estimated to go up to 10 million people in the next few months. we have lost ground in the effort to cover every american. >> look, ali, what it tells us is what you and i have discussed on numerous occasions, that today we have a health care system which is dysfunctional and in my view extremely cruel. what this system -- what's going on today tells us is you cannot continue to tie health care to your job. it should not be a job benefit. it should be a human right.
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we remain the only major country on earth that doesn't guarantee health care to all people as a right rather than just tying it to our job. and i hope that out of this terrible, painful lesson that so many people are experiencing that people understand we've got to do what every other major country on earth does, got to go forward with a medicare for all single payer system. we have to have the courage to take on the greed of the pharmaceutical industry which charge us the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. so i would hope that out of this terrible, terrible moment we move forward with universal health care as a human right. >> so arguably this had some degree of popular support, and then it seemed to increase as the pandemic set in, as people realized they saw these people including some of our front line workers who didn't have health care.
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and then you add this 5.4 million people who have lost their health care and the 4.6 million who will continue to lose their health care, so you would think this would be that moment. why is it not in your opinion part of joe biden's platform at this point? >> well, you know, as you mentioned we put together a number of task forces with the biden campaign. one of them was on health care. he, in fact, moved a whole lot in many areas. he proposes to lower the eligibility age for medicare from 65 down to 60. strong language on lowering prescription drug costs, doubling funding for community health centers, very important issue because we're very weak in terms of primary health care. i'll let you ask joe biden that as to why he's not a supporter for medicare for all. he is not. but to my mind what this moment is showing us is that the current system is not what the american people need.
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we should not be paying twice as much per capita for health care compare today any other country and yet have 100 million people uninsured or underinsured. that's absurd. >> senator, i want to ask you a story i'm going to read to you from "the washington post" about defense spending. "the washington post" reports that after years of virtually reflexive bipartisan support for shoving more money at the military progressives will push for a 10% cut in the pentagon's top line budget. the $74 billion in savings will be instead be used for distressed communities vital needs. you've got some big name support in this. >> we do. chuck schumer has come onboard. chuck as you know is the democratic leader in the senate. we think and hope his support will bring other democrats on. we have the senators from oregon, widen and murkily, the senators from massachusetts,
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elizabeth warren and ed markey. so what we are trying to do here, ali, is begin the process of transforming our national priority. when so many people are hurting, when so many communities are suffering from extreme poverty, housing crisis, health care crises, educational crises, we should not as a nation be spending more on the military than the next 11 nations combined. at a time when the pentagon is the only major agency of government not to be able to fulfill an independent audit where there is massive amounts of cost overruns, waste, fraud, almost every major defense contractor has been found guilty of fraud, paid billions in fines. you know what, the time is now to change our priorities. we don't need more nuclear
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weapons. we don't need more fighter jets. we do need decent housing and health care and education for our people. so i hope that this amendment does well. i hope that some of these republicans who talk about how deeply concerned they are about the deficit understand that we should not be spending $740 billion on the military, $100 billion increase since trump has been president. i hope they will join us and redirect priorities in america. >> senator, good to see you. thank you for joining me. vermont senator, bernie sanders. still ahead there's important information about the killing of george floyd in minneapolis. we'll have that next. - [narrator] the shark vacmop combines powerful suction
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in minneapolis the hanpen county district court today released previously unseen body cam footage from two of the officers involved in the fatal arrest of george floyd. i'm not going to show it to you. the footage was made available for showing in person and by appointment only, but it reportedly shows officer
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thomas lane was the first to interact with george floyd. he didn't initially tell him why he was being investigated. it appears mr. floyd was distraught almost immediately after being and appeared reluctant to exit his vehicle after being offered no explanation for the police investigation. early on in the tape mr. floyd was asked to show his hands. when he did not do so immediately officer lane pulled his gunpointing it at mr.noid. he later said he did so mr. george floyd appeared to be fumbling around for something in his car. "the washington post" paints the two actions between the two men in greater detail. that officer lane with gun drawn shouted at him to show his hands. at least five times. at one point floyd began to start sobbing, tapping on the steering wheel and holding up his hands. according to the video footage mr. floyd said, quote, i'm
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sorry, i'm sorry, what i didn't do nothing, what did we do, mr. officer? after he was handcuffed. he appeared to become more anxious telling the officers he was claustrophobic. pleading with them not to put him in the back of a squad car. the officers eventually pulled george floyd down onto the pavement and held him there. from there the minutes start to tick by. with mr. floyd pinned to the ground officer derek chauvin's knee pressed into his neck. the associated press reports the officers sound clinical as time passes. i think he's passing out one officer says, you guys all right, though, someone ands. yeah, good so far, says one. another, apparently lane says my knee might be a little scratched but i'll survive. eventually one of the officers checks for mr. floyd's pulse saying he can't find one. officer chauvin continues to restrain george floyd with his knee on his neck until after paramedics arrive.
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we now know officer chauvin had his knee on george floyd's neck for close to 9 1/2 minutes, even longer than previously thought. another more startling piece of information we learned today has to do with the medical attention george floyd received after emts arrived on the scene. according to a reporter for the minneapolis star tribune, quote, about 19 minutes and 40 seconds in lane's video a paramedic arrived and took floyd's pulse at the neck. the paramedic walked away without a sense of urgency. the associated press reports that lane's camera shows him following an unresponsive floyd on a stretcher into an ambulance where emts instructed him to perform cpr. the video shows lane performing constant chest compressions by hand with no visible results. the ambulance parks a few blocks away from the store for several minutes while lane and the emts work on floyd rather than heading straight to the hospital even though they all know at that point floyd is in full
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cardiac arrest as indicated by the dispatcher audio. a spokesman for the hospital that provided the ambulance told the ap she couldn't talk about george floyd's treatment because of medical privacy restrictions but she said it's not unusual for paramedics to load a patient onto an ambulance and move to a more secure location as they provide lifesaving care. this has been an absolutely heart breaking and horrifying story from the on set and unfortunately each new piece of evidence, each new development makes it even harder to bear. don't just think about where you're headed this summer. think about how you'll get there. and now that you can lease or buy a new lincoln remotely or in person... discovering that feeling has never been more effortless. accept our summer invitation to get 0% apr on all 2020 lincoln vehicles. only at your lincoln dealer.
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is that if you're not wexpecting the shock,t don't keep that case though...available 24/7 and the markets fall dramatically, you might panic. and in the midst of that panic, you might sell and run to cash. at the very moment, you shouldn't. at the very moment, prices are at their low. that's my fear. i'm not worried about the country. i'm not worried about the financial markets, because in the long run, i know they'll be fine. i'm worried about you. i'm worried about how you will personally respond to this crisis. and even if you don't panic, you may... barack obama is the former president of the united states. that's it highest office anyone can hold in this country but he also has another distinction. he's also the most followed twitter account on the entire internet with over 120 million followers worldwide, which is why it was more than just odd when today barack obama tweeted this. i'm giving back due to covid-19,
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all bit coins sent mooi address will be sent back doubled. if you send $1,000, i will send back $2,000. obviously the former president did not obviously send that spam message. his twitter account was hacked. but it wasn't just barack obama. the twitter accounts of joe biden, elon musk, kanye west, and bill gates all said similar messages after their accounts was compromised on what can only be described as a massive hack on the social media platform. twitter responded by locking the accounts of all verified users, the ones with the blue check mark. it's a category that includes most journalists, politicians and celebrities. keep in mind this is website the current president of the united states uses regularly to send out policy decrees, fire his own top aides or lash out at foreign leaders. of nuclear armed countries. and this hack today is not just some scam that happened because someone clicked a bad link in a suspicious e-mail. this level of access to
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protected social media accounts can only be pulled off to twitter's internal systems. so imagine something like this were to happen just before i don't know let's say a presidential election only instead of trying to scam people to send them bitcoin it was about deciding the fate of american democracy. an nbc news reporter and the first person i turn to for stories like this. ben, you've had a few hours to digest this and talk to people. what does the scope of the access to these particular high profile accounts in this hack tell you? >> it tells me that this could have been a really dangerous day, not just for democracy but for the world. you know, we don't really fully understand what happened yet. neither does twitter, really. they took some steps. they verified twitter accounts from tweeting in the interim. but we don't know if the people who hacked this had access to people's direct messages. if they did, that's a national security issue, frankly.
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and they could have posted anything. thankfully, i think we got lucky so far. you know, they just wanted people's bitcoin. they wanted to make a quick buck. if they wanted more than that, if they wanted to create chaos, destabilize the world, they really could have done it today.
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wanted was some money. >> yeah. you say about $100,000 may have been spent. i'm fascinated that someone would find a bitcoin account on twitter and send them money.
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because someone asked. i don't think most people do that. but there is a connection to the brothers here and the site that was used to collect the bitcoin. what is that? >> yeah. they were one of the first accounts hacked, too. they sent us on to this wallet, basically, and they can shut down basically the transaction. so these people didn't even collect that much money. it's weird that -- that's the weird part about this to me. these people probably spent a lot of money for this and probably took a lot of time to figure out who they were going to target and how they were going to do it. there was no way to shut this down. some of these tweets from elon musk's account were up for a long time, maybe an hour. that's the weird part to me. it wasn't fully thought out or maybe it was fully thought out but it wasn't that well engineered. and i don't know. it's not fully there yet. right now it looks like we're really lucky, but we don't know that yet.
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>> and i know there have already been calls. i know senator josh holly of missouri is on top of this. he's calling for something. he's calling for jack dorsey of twitter to come before congress. >> josh holly who has been a thorn in the side of social media companies for a while now, you know, has a really good reason now to say, hey, is this a safe website? i think it's a real question to ask at this point because if, you know, the prevailing notion right now is that somebody at twitter was hacked and had those credentials spread around to the dark web that were later sold or used by that person, if that's the case, that's not enough security for a website used by the president of the united states to make policy. just simply isn't. so there are many issues at play there, but at the end of the day, that website had to be more buttoned up with security. >> good to see you, my friend.
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i know you have work to do to get to the bottom of this story. thank you for joining us tonight. while we have been on the air tonight, another u.s. city has voted for a mask ordinance trying to stop the coronavirus. this is tulsa, oklahoma, voting for masks by a vote of 7-2. the head of the schools told the council, we need to get this trajectory turned around. we want to be back in school. our children need to be back in school. their families need them to be back in school and our teachers want to see them back in school. and with that, the city council voted to mass a mask ordinance. that's news tonight out of tulsa, oklahoma. we'll be right back. [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain.
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the big hack today was not the fun part of twitter. for an example of that consider the account of donald trump's niece which sat unused for nearly two years. here's the latest thing or the last thing that mary trump tweeted. it was august of 2018. it is one of those pictures you have to stare at for a while to
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find the hidden catch. spoiler alert, i'm not going to show you. cover your eyes if you don't want to know. three, two, one. here's the kitty cat. all right. on monday a judge ruled that mary trump can publish her tell all mémoire about her dysfunctional family. too much and never enough. how my family created the world's most dangerous man, meaning her uncle, the president of the united states. after the judge ruled that mary trump can talk about her book and, therefore, her fear that her uncle might somehow become a two term president, mary trump started tweeting. subtle shade at the administration. quote, happy infrastructure week. followed by one for bastille day. and today a picture of a can of black beans, most definitely a non-goya can. the unleashed era has begun. her book is out and she is allowed to talk and tomorrow
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night she will do just that right here on this show with rachel maddow. you will not want to miss that conversation. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow with rachel. now it is time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening. we will all of course be watching rachel's interview with mary trump tomorrow night. mary trump tomorrow night. can't wait. and speaking of infrastructure week, donald trump went to georgia today to give what was billed as an infrastructure speech which, of course, was all about joe biden and hating the press and all sorts of things. stacey abrams was actually waiting for donald trump to arrive in her state, and she warned voters about what donald trump was going to say today before he arrived. stacey abrams is going to join us later in the hour. and we are going to show a lot of what mary trump has already had to say in her interview with george stephanopoulos. kind of aew