it is saturday, july 18th. i'm ali velshi. civil rights icon, congressman john lewis has died after a months' long battle with cancer. he was 80 years old. in a statement, lewis's family said, quote, he was honored and respected as the conscience of the u.s. congress and an icon of american history. we knew him as a loving father and brother. he was a stalwart champion in the ongoing struggle to demand respect for the dignity and worth of every human being.

he dedicated his entire life to nonviolent activism and was an outspoken advocate in the struggle for equal justice in america. he will be deeply missed. john lewis was born a sharecroppers son on a cotton farm. lewis attended segregated schools. he spent his life as an activist fighting for civil rights. often speaking out about the importance of getting into, quote, good trouble. that included the lunch counter sit-ins during segregation. >> altogether it was a moving feeling within me that i was sitting there demanding a god given right and my soul became satisfied that i was right in what i was doing. at the same time there was something deep down within me moving me that i could no longer be satisfied with an evil system that i had to be maladjusted to it, and in spite of all of this,

i had to keep loving the people who denied me service, who stared at me. >> lewis was arrested during the freedom rides of 1961 in mississippi for using a so-called white restroom. he was the last surviving speaker from the 1963 march on washington. >> i have the pleasure to present to this great audience young john lewis, national chairman, student nonviolent coordinating committee. john lewis. [ applause ] >> oh, let there be patience and wait. we cannot be patient. we do not want our freedom gradually, but we want to be free now.

>> that was in 1963, two years after that speech, lewis had his skull fractured by alabama state troops on the edmund pettus bridge in selma, during the bloody sunday march. earlier this year, lewis was back in selma. >> speak out. >> speak up, get in the way. >> get in the way. >> make trouble, necessary trouble to help redeem the soul of america. >> lewis was first elected to the house of representatives in 1987 and set not only an example, but became the bench mark for black americans in congress. he was often referred to as the conscience of the congress and often spoke out against military intervention. in a statement house speaker nancy pelosi called lewis, quote, one of the greatest heroes of american history. in one of his final acts in congress on friday, lewis along with congressman kevin mccarthy a republican sent a letter to

the trump administration seeking millions of dollars in funding to help educate students about civics and government. reacting to the news, congressman mccarthy said in part, quote, even on the last day of his life, john never stopped working to improve the lives of others. lewis was presented with the presidential medal of freedom by president obama who says of lewis in a statement, in part, quote, in so many ways john's life was exceptional, but he never believed that what he did was more than any citizen of his country might do. he believed that in all of us there exists the capacity for great courage, a longing to do what's right, a willingness to love all people and to extend to them their god given rights to dignity and respect. and it's because he saw the best in all of us that he will continue even in his passing to serve as a beacon in that long journey toward a more perfect union. that was president obama on congressman john lewis. joining me now the president of the national action network and the host of msnbc's politics

nation, reverend al sharpton, eddie glaude jr., an msnbc contributor and author of the new book, "begin again: james baldwin's america and its urgent lessons for our own" and historian john meacham, an msnbc contributor and john lewis's official biographer, his upcoming book is called his truth is marching on, john lewis k and the power of hope. it features an afterward by john lewis. thaun thank you for being with us this morning. rev lend, y reverend you and i spoke last night. one of the things you and i had discussed in those final moments of the show last night is about movements taking time. you told me movements and change take a long time. they require patience and fortitude. you were talking about the distance between the civil rights movement and the movements of today, and that

point could have been about john lewis? >> it definitely could have been. in fact, a lot of what i learned i learned from john lewis and the younger crowd that was around dr. king, you have to remember, ali, john lewis was about 11 years younger than dr. king. i was 15 years younger than john lewis and jesse jackson, and so i learned from those that were the young to dr. king. i was a northerner, and they would always say movements take time. you've got to be in for the long haul. i think the uniqueness of john lewis is on his body bear the marks of the movement. he was beaten as a freedom rider. he was beaten on the edmund pettus bridge. when you talk to john lewis, you are looking at someone who physically personified the struggle against jim crow and went all the way to being a

member of congress and becoming this iconic figure. but he started as a student that literally had his body bearing the brunt of the hatred that was so evident in the south. and as he walked, he never lost those bruises and those bruises became the marks of the historic fight of full citizenship in this country. and i think that he did it with such grace and dignity, he would lecture us. because i was in the north, the northern part of the movement, and he would say you all are too vibrant. you've got to be forgiving. you can't become like who you're fighting, and he would lecture us and calm us down, and that was the spirit he had, and he was probably one of the most humble public figures i've ever met. >> professor glaude, you and i talk a lot and i follow you on twitter, i saw a tweet from you after the passing of john lewis.

it simply read i am speechless. i know it's hard to form thoughts in the immediate aftermath of something this big, but you've had now the night to think about it. what's on your mind? >> well, you know, we're in this moment of transition. we're losing giants, people who made us possible, people as reverend sharpton just laid out, put their bodies on the line -- trying to figure out, i've been up all night trying to figure out what to say, how to characterize john lewis, you know, who was chair of student nonviolent coordinating committee from '63 to '66, who put his body on the line. we tell the stories of the freedom rides in selma, of course, but at the heart of it is his faith, and he has this line across the bridge, he says faith is being so sure of what the spirit has when i sispered r

heart that your belief in its eve eve -- is unshakable. even if he did not live long enough to see it, he had the faith that a true, just america would come into being. as he puts it in across the bridge, that is faith, and it was legendary. his courage, his willingness to sacrifice, legendary, ali. >> john meacham, the age that eddie talks about is relevant bauds jo because john lewis was young during the civil rights movement. he was one of the youngest involved, which meant that his histories was tied very closely to slavery. he was the child of sharecroppers. sharecroppers were technically free, but they are for all intents and purposes in servitude, they were indentured. they didn't come out at the end of any year with many money than

th -- more money and that was zero. move it into congress, move it into policy and into the modern era where he on his dying day was able to see what might be the closing efforts of the civil rights movement in america. >> well, it's even -- it stretches back even farther and even more relevant. his great grandfather was born in enslavement, and he knew his great grandfather who lived until he was 8 years old in troy, alabama. lewis would say, i think, that movements take time, but they never really end, and they only end when the kingdom of god or as he and dr. king put it in a phrase, the beloved community comes into being. one of the things that he and i debated far long timor a long t

won of course, whether the kingdom of god could, in fact, unfold in a temporal context. that is could perfection be achieved? i'm a more tragic guy, i don't think that can happen. john lewis does believe that, and i'm going to keep using the present tense. he believes that and thinks that if we follow the implications of the christian gospel, he was in the streets. he was on that bridge. he was in those buses. he was in those waiting rooms. he was in parchment, which is hell on earth in mississippi where to walk to the showers they had to go past the death chambers in mississippi. he was there because he had walked into a segregated room that was supposed to be sbe fwr gra- integrated, but people in my

nation, believed in white supremacy so stlorongly deep in the 20th century that they didn't care, and they put him in prison. and they put paul in prison, they put the apostles in prison, and i don't think congressman lewis is explicable without understanding that he is a biblical figure. his name was robert lewis when he was a boy. he became john when he joined the movement. now, there's a biblical tradition -- i don't mean to get too close to reverend al's territory, but a biblical tradition, elias, abraham, pete, you receive a different name. you are in a sense baptized into, ordained into a new life and a new role, and that's what happened to him in nashville, tennessee in the late 1950s. we are sitting here talking about him because he encountered a man whose name is not well enough known named james lawson.

james lawson was an apostle and teacher, is an apostle and teacher of nonviolence, combining gandhi and the christian gospel, and the last time i talked to dr. lawson about congressman lewis, i asked him, do you think john is a saint in the classical christian sense of being willing to die for his beliefs and not his appetites? and lawson said yes because john always tried to manifest the kingdom with which jesus spoke when he said thy kingdom come, and that's what america lost last night. >> reverend al, often when i speak to you and john meacham, it is in the context of a great american passing, and one of the things i enjoy so much about having you on, reverend al is because you know everybody and you know them personally. tell me things we don't know about john lewis or what he was

like as a person that people who only know him in a political context don't know. >> he was probably the most humble public figure i have ever known, and i think john meacham is right. he was deeply committed to the judeo christian ethos. he saw the movement as a spiritual movement. he did not see it as political. he would always lecture even in the most private moments that we must do the right thing morally. if it was not moral, he was not part of it. part of his conflict with other members when he was a young student leader was that he was very much graced in the biblical tradition, and he was not as committed as they were to a lot of the more secular political kind of analysis that they would try and come with, which is when he finally left.

let's not forget dr. king's movement, the organization was called the southern christian leadership conference, so what people need to know about him is he was deeply committed to that. he wanted to be more right than he wanted to be popular. he wanted to be more moral than he wanted to be powerful, and he kept pounding that in any of us that he would have any kind of personal conversations with that were aspiring to be activists or leaders. >> eddie, you are the chair of the african-american studies department at princeton university, you've just written a book about james baldwin, so you really have a very deep understanding of the concept of protest. one of john lewis's favorite sayings, he would say it all over the place. he'd write about it. he talked about getting into good trouble in necessary. in one instance in 2015, he said the actions of rosa parks and the leadership of martin luther king jr. inspired me to find a way to get in the way, to get in

trouble, good trouble, necessary trouble. this is informative and instructive to the moment that we are in right now. >> oh, absolutely. against the backdrop of portland, what happened in portland last night, and against the backdrop of black lives matter. you know, john lewis represents an extraordinary example, an exemplar of what it means to risk everything in pursuit of a more just america, but more importantly of the kingdom of god on earth as john and rev put it. i think it's really important to understand john lewis in the context of the student nonviolent coordinating committee. these were the young people between 15 and 24 who were the shock troops of the movement. these are the young people who went into the bowels of the south, not with cameras, not with big organization, often, two, three at a time, and they were charged to organize everyday ordinary folk. they were charged to get into the gutter, the guts of the south, ali, and risk everything

in the belief that everyday ordinary people have the capacity to govern and see what we think about john lewis, he's the chair from '63 to '66. '63 is not only the march on washington. '64 is mississippi freedom democratic party, organizing bob moses and victoria grays and organizing in mississippi the challenge to democratic party. '63, the archbishop in washington, d.c., is worried about how radical his speech is at the march on washington. that line about patience that you played at the beginning of the segment was actually edited along with another -- a couple more lines like getting sherman out of his speech because he was not only making good trouble, he was on the radical edge of that trouble. when you think about '65, right thr , this is not only selma, the edmo edmund pettus bridge but this is also organizing in lowns county,

engaging in black political self-determination, and by '66 carmichael is declaring we want black power, no more freedom now, and in some ways, ali, john lewis faces a choice. snic was his family but he like reverend sharpton said understood the moral underpinnings of the movement, and we need to understand that choice that he made to leave snic and in some ways to double down on his belief that nonviolence and redemptive suffering could transform the country. >> i want to leave this segment with a quote from john lewis that he made on august 28th, 1963. he said to those of us who have said be patient and wait, we have long said that we cannot be patient. we do not want our freedom gradually. we want to be free now. we are tired. we are tired of being beaten by policemen. we are tired of seeing our people locked up in jail over and over again, ask thnd then y holler be patient. how long can we be patient? we want our freedom, and we want it now. we do not want to go to jail,

but we will go to jail if this is the price we must pay. the reverend al sharpton, the president of the national action network and the host of politics nation on msnbc, john impeach you wi -- john meacham and eddie glaude. this moment that america is living through right now, a reckoning for racial justice, a battle for equality, it's what john lewis embodied to his core. let me show you a picture of him marching on selma, alabama, in 1965 in what later became known as bloody sunday. >> we're marching today to dramatize to the nation, to the world that hundreds of thousands of negro citizens of alabama, but particularly here in the blitheville area denied the right to vote. we intend to march to montgomery to present the grievance to governor george c. wallace. ♪

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i thought some time ago that we've come much further along, but the scars and stains of racism are still deeply embedded in american society. >> that was the late congressman john lewis one year ago today,

speaking out about the state of racial equality. no doubt the movement has gained a lot of ground in the last year with massive protests and demonstrations helping change the scythe geist. president trump continues to put race and culture wars front and center of his messaging, lewis did not attend trump's inauguration saying at the time he did not consider him a legitimate president due to russian election interference. trump responded claiming lewis's district was in horrible shape and falling apart and that lewis was all talk, talk, talk, no action or results. interesting thing to say about john lewis because speaking of all talk, when the president was asked in a new interview with fox news's chris wallace about the ongoing police reform and racial equality movement, trump threw a tantrum. watch. >> now it's gotten totally out of control, and it's really because they want to defund the police, and biden wants to defund the police. >> sir, he does not.

>> look, he signed a charter with bernie sanders -- >> it says nothing about defund the police. >> oh really? it says abolish. let's go, get me the charter, please. >> all right. now here's the interesting part, that's not the end of the story. as chris wallace explained, the president then ordered his staff to literally go and get a copy of the biden/sanders agreements, many pages long, and he proceeded to go through it, highlighting things he didn't like, apparently with nothing better to do with his time as the president of the country, but trump in doing so didn't find anything about defunding the police because, as wallace noted and wallace knew this going into the interview, it's not there. the president also debuted a new attack line this week, and besides being ridiculous, it included more than a tinge of racial undertone. >> our entire economy and our very way of life are threatened by biden's plans to transform

our nation and subjugate our communities. the democrats in d.c. have been and want to at a much higher level abolish our beautiful and successful suburbs. your home will go down in value and crime rates will rapidly rise, and what will be the end result is you will totally destroy the beautiful suburbs. >> still with me, eddie glaude, chair of the african-american studies department at princeton university and an msnbc contributor, he's the author of "begin again james baldwin's america and its urgent lesson for our own" and ben jealous, the president of people for the american way. he's also a visiting scholar at the annenberg school for communication at the university o pennsylvania. good morning to you, be en. welcome back, eddie. that's a remarkable set of comments the president made there talking about subjugating our communities, our suburbs, crime running rampant.

in fact, in the past john lewis has commented on things like that the president says and says i know racism when i hear it. one doesn't have to be all that sophisticated about racism to suggest what the president said yesterday was a warning to white people about what happens if black people get the power that they deserve. >> trump is like so disturbing it often makes me speechless. i really -- i had not seen those comments before, the notion that the president is warning people of the possible destruction of the american suburb strikes me as deeply troubling. i mean, the beautiful thing about john is that john was a seamless connection to the kind of moral roots of the civil rights movement and our nation, and he embodied the faith of frederick douglass who said 150 years ago about that our destiny is to be most perfect example of unity and dignity of the human family that the world has ever known. john believed that in his core.

he worked for it. donald trump tries to destroy that destiny every day. >> eddie, let's talk about this because john lewis to his last day, i mean, he very recently stood with d.c. mayor muriel bowser at the black lives matter mural on the street in washington, d.c. he has been calling donald trump out on this for a while. he sort of cringes when we talk about him as being racially tinged or whatever. he says this is racism and donald trump is completely doubling down on the idea in case you're not getting my dog whistle, i'm going to make it much clearer what i'm talking about, the threat to your very existence. >> absolutely, ali, and listen, there's a long history of that particular kind of invocation, of subjugation, the threat of black domination goes all the way back to the 18th century. you can see this among white

slave holders in the south worrying about the numbers of black slauves in their regions and what that would mean for them, the potential threat. the idea of black domination is at the heart of the wilmington 1898 massacre. it's at the heart of so much violence. so the idea of donald trump invoking that trope, they will subjugate our communities is in some ways, you know, tagging a particular tradition of white resentment, white fear, white grievance. and let's be clear, as we celebrate the life of john lewis, we lift him up, and we can describe him as the saint that jon meacham did in the last segment, but to talk about john lewis requires us to confront the ugliness, the ugly violence of our country, and donald trump's rhetoric connects to the rhetoric and actions of jim clark in selma, donald trump's rhetoric connects to that way of life, ali, that john lewis

risked everything to resist, and we need to understand that clearly in this moment as we celebrate the life that he gave us, the sacrifices that he made for people like me to talk to people like you. >> that's right, ben jealous, he did pave the way. this is a guy who took great risk. he has paid with his body. his skull was broken. he was beaten. he was arrested several times, but he paved the way in doing that. he's thought of as a quiet man, but his history is not quiet at all. >> no, and most basic freedoms as black people really go back to john lewis, i mean, if you think about the freedom rides, that was a time when my mom, quite frankly was already an adult, when black people were afraid to travel from state to state. my family lives in baltimore. we're from petersburg, it's not a forar drive, but we would prepare. my mom, my grandparents would

prepare. they would make food the night before. they would, you know, not drink water trying to avoid having to stop at a gas station to get all the way to petersburg. that was the world that my mom grew up in. and john, an activist including my mom changed everything by risking their lives for the most basic dignities, and so when john stands up and says that we need to listen to the protesters of today, he speaks sort of as a physical reminder of how protesters are often dismissed, and then we look back and those who supported them never regret it, and that's the important thing in this moment is to look at the young people of today and realize that when they stand up to stop the police from killing unarmed people in our country, especially unarmed black folks, most numerously unarmed black folks, that they do so with an eye towards the future and that

if we support them today we will not regret it tomorrow. >> gentlemen, thank you for your time this morning. eddie glaude is the chairman for the center of african-american studies at princeton university and an msnbc contributor. ben jealous is the president of the people for the american way and the former naacp president and ceo. our coverage of the death of john lewis is after this. he was known as the conscience of congress. lewis never stopped fighting for civil rights. here he is a few weeks ago at the black lives matter mural in washington. >> it was very moving, very moving, very impressive, people to see afternoon the nation, mighty powerful and strong message to the rest of the world that we will get there. h protei. h protei. and now, there's boost mobility... ...with key nutrients to help support... joints, muscles, and bones.

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this morning we continue to look back on the extraordinary life of civil rights leader and long-time georgia con depressgr representative john lewis, often called the conscience of congress, lewis spent his life in a fearless fight for equality. he began his civil rights career at a young age organizing sit-ins and working to dismantle the jim crow south making his name as a champion of the movement. lewis was last surviving speaker from the 1963 march on washington. joining me is cofounder of the illinois chapter of the black panther, illinois representative bobby rush. congressman rush, good to see you. i've been looking back at some pictures of you and john lewis. you know, you used to talk about getting yourself into something he called good trouble. you've had your share of that as a civil rights activist. talk to me about the influence or what you shared in your philosophy with john lewis. >> certainly john lewis, first

of all, let me just give my condolences to john lewis's family, to his staff members, michael and others, and to those who he represented in his district in atlanta, georgia. john lewis to me, we shared a lot. i started my involvement in the civil rights movement as a member of sncc, but i didn't join the sncc of john lewis, i joined the sncc of ralph brown and sophie carmichael, so it was in transition. we were moving from avoiding -- in the south to the urban areas whe where, that's the sncc that i joined, and that was transformed

into a black power movement, so i grew up in the black power phase of the civil rights movement whereas john lewis grew up in the desegregation phase of the civil rights movement. but we shared a lot in common. we shared so much in common. as a matter of fact, when i fist came to congress, i remember running into john lewis in the corridor, and he said, my brother, i am so glad to see you here. you're welcome here. i'm so glad to see you here. and my last, most favorite memory of john lewis is that we traveled together on the pelosi delegation for ghana for the 400 an reniversary of the landing o africans here in this nation. and we were standing out on the plane there, and we just hear so

many intimate conversations about where we were as a nation, where we wanted to be. his involvement, my involvement, and so a fraternity that john lewis, not only myself but e eve every other member of congress, republicans and democrats. when i think about john lewis, you know, i'm reminded of that which is written in the book of michael, 668, the lord asked him a question, but to love mercy do justly. that epitomized john and was the emphasis on doing justice, fighting for justice. >> congressman, thank you for --

thank you for these great memories. you know -- you knew john lewis well, and you shared some great memories with him, and we thank you for the work that you've done and the memory that you will help carry on of john lewis. representative bobby rush is the representative for the first congressional district in illinois. representative lewis spent more than 30 years of his life representing georgia in congress. let's go to atlanta, that's where we find nbc's blayne alexander who is standing in front of the iconic john lewis mural. how's atlanta reacting as they wake up to this news? >> you know, we're standing right here in downtown, the heart of the district, ali that he represented for 17 terms, and you know, it really comes as no surprise that just hours after we heard of the news of his passing already here at this mural behind me, we're seeing people come with flowers and signs and tributes. i watched as one man came up and knelt and touched the wall and

sat there silently for a little bit of time. we're already seeing an emotional outpouring of tributes. let me widen out and show you. this really is a tremendous mural, and it says one simple word at the top, hero. you see it right there. this mural has been in place for several years now, but just the location of it is so striking because just a little bit away from where i'm standing is the main highway here in atlanta, the main artery. when you drive down that highway through downtown, you see it every day. you see this mural every day. you really see just how much he was beloved here in this area in atlanta in his district. you know, i've got to say, ali, even when, you know, before news of his illness, before that people would really just tend to flock here, would come here just to kind of look, take pictures. this is a place where people would take picture coming from out of town, from here in atlanta not only to take a look at that mauural but if we can kd of focus back over here, there's another piece that shows a quote of what he said at the march on washington in august 28th, 1963.

that reads right there. i appeal to all of you who get into this great revolution that is sweeping this nation. get in and stay in the streets, every city, every village and handle it at this nation until true freedom comes until the revolution of 1776 is complete. we see people coming up and reading that out load. a tremendous outpouring of tribut tribute in his home district. >> until the revolution of 1776 is complete. thank you. nbc's blayne alexander at the john lewis mural in atlanta. the passing of john lewis comes at an important time as our country's in the midst of a reckoning with racism and oppression. the civil rights icon spoke out about the nexus of the black lives matter movement today and the civil rights movement of the '50s and the '60s. >> does this feel and look different to you?

>> this feels and looks so different. it is so much more massive and all inclusive. to see people from all over the world taking to the streets, to the roadways, to stand up, to speak up, to speak out or to do what i call getting in trouble. and with the sense of determination and commitment and dedication, there would be no tongue back. >> joining me now, derrick johnson, the president and ceo of the naacp, and cofounder of the campaign zero, host of pod save the people and one of the leading voices in the black lives matter movement. good morning, gentlemen. it's good to see you, although on a somber occasion. derrick, let's talk about context for john lewis. he is both a creature of the past and a creature of the

present. in fact, his seamless transition from activist into congressman doesn't make -- doesn't sort of create two lives because as a member of congress, his civil rights background informed everything he did until friday, until the day he died, in fact. he never stopped being the civil rights leader. >> it was amazing the life that he lived. he was the second head of the student nonviolent coordinating committee, he was on the front lines of advocacy. he did what he spoke of. he didn't speak of it to encourage others. i can recall being an undergraduate student in college in mississippi and him coming on campus in the early '90s and his speech was around not giving up, continue the fight. we were organizing to prevent the closing and merging of black colleges during that time. i can recall him in the early 2000s saying don't give up. continue the fight.

in the midst of and aftermath of ni 9/11 i can recall him coming to tunica, mississippi, many times for the congressional black caucus. he was very approachable, always encouraging. even recently, the naacp, i think we've bestowed every award imaginable to him, and in february we bestowed another award on him, and his message then, don't give up. continue the struggle, and at the edmund pettus bridge, it was the most profound surprise that we had when he showed up to commemorate bloody sunday this year, and the crowd surrounded around him, and he said don't give up. continue the fight, but most importantly he said we must vote like we have never voted before. we must vote to save this democracy. we must stand up in our moral integrity and continue to fight not giving up, not giving up. >> incredible, black lives matter has emulated the emergence of the civil rights

movement in that it has become more diverse. it has become bigger. it has become more influential, and yet, the fight in many cases continues to be the same thing that it was in the '50s and the '60s, a fight against police brutality, a fight of economic fairness, fairness in education, and votining rights. >> yeah, you know, we think about a movement being birthed on the streets of ferguson and st. louis in 2014 and how that changed the country and the world. i think about the way that he supported the protesters then ask grew in support, and today i will tell you that the last time i was in a meeting with representative lewis was also the last time i was in a meeting with c.t. vivian. we were all in the white house together for the first intergenerational meeting for civil rights leaders that ever happened. i remember that conversation vividly. you're right, we know that we didn't discover injustice in august of 2014, and we didn't invent resistance, and we are carrying a legacy that is much deeper and richer than this

current moment. and at the same time, we know that the police is one of the only institutions that has remained largely unchanged since the last big battle. so you know, when i think about fighting in this moment, i'm happy he got to see the resurgence of a movement and it grow and be so much more powerful because we learned from lessons that he helped us learn. and also, i think that we have a moment to really do the thing, right, that we can undo the power of the police, that we can change and end mass incarceration so that we can build better communities and have institutions that serve us. so i feel better. i've never been more hopeful, and i'm hopeful because of people like him who understood the power of good trouble. so you know, you think about this moment, the last thing i'll say is that a third of all the people killed by a stranger in the united states are killed by police officers. this is actually still urgent, and we fight in his honor. >> yeah. donald trump was interviewed about that the other day, and he seemed to misrepresent that statistic. derrick, i want to just read to you what john lewis said to

jonathan capehart at the black lives matters protests. he said you must be able to prepare and give until you cannot give anymore, lewis said, we must use our time and our space on this little planet we call earth to make a lasting contribution, to leave it a little better than we found it, and now that need is greater than ever before. derrick, those are wise words, but i think you made the point, he didn't just say it. he didn't say anything that he wouldn't do himself. this man had his skull broken by the police after having been beaten and jailed by the police on other occasions. this is a guy who literally, yesterday he sent a letter to the administration. he worked until the day he died in the interest of civil rights for 60 years. >> you know, 57 years ago this august was the march on washington, and there were six primary organizations that put on that march. john lewis was the chairman of the student nonviolent

coordinating committee, one of the big six, naacp, urban league, and there's an iconic picture of him sitting down, and he's rewriting his speech to make he's rewhitir rewriting his speech to make sure it would speak to the moment. he could rewrite that speech then because he had been in mississippi, he had been in augusta, georgia. he had put himself on frontline. it wasn't just words for him. it was the physical active nature of who he was. he must speak for those who couldn't speak for themselves. we have to commemorate virtually the march on washington this year to go towards what he talked about. we must vote like we've never voted before. in this moment, as he did last week, as he did last month, as did he last year, he understand the power of the vote in this democracy. and he didn't talk about it, he lived the life he spoke of. and for that, he's the example we should all look up to.

>> and we are looking at our examples today in the two of you for joining us today. derrick johnson is the president and ceo of the naacp. and the host of pod save the people, black lives matter and cofinder cofounder of campaign zero. never be afraid to make noise and get in trouble, words of the late john lewis, how his impact has shaped the country for the better, next. s impact has shaped the country for the better, next. the moment has come to deal with the denial of the promise of this nation,

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we began with the news of the loss of a true american leader, john lewis was born the son of share cropners alabama. he went on to be a fearless leader in the civil rights movement and a towering figure in congress. as a student he would organize sit-ins and become one of the 13 freedom writers and a founder in the early sncc, the commit teen known as sncc. his bravery to fighting against injustice and for his beliefs was not easy. he endured remarkable violence at the hands of authority as a freedom writer. he had his skull broken after leading a march across a bridge named for a kkk member. he was arrested in 2006 and in 2009 for a sit-in protesting genocide. repeating a martin luther king

quote. he continued to preach nonviolence in his life and never shied away that might have violence against him or arrest when he witnessed injustice, whether it be with other civil rights leaders or with our current president. he spent his whole life fighting b b bigotry. his teachings and legacy are morel and important now than ever. america is in turmoil and right for change. people are take together streets, risking violence from authorized and at the hands of police once again. discontented with living in a country that continues to foster inequities based on race. everyone seems to have a john lewis story. i celebrated his 73rd birthday with him at a benefit in atlanta in 2013 hosted by our mutual friend the former basically player. i remember little else about the evening except i was in the

midst of a real hero who never stopped fighting for justice. he picked up his mantle for a better world. so as we all remember the force that was john lewis and the last of the civil rights leaders, i will leave you with his own words that he put now the 2018 in response to growing concern about the current president. quote, do not get lost in a sea of december pair. be hopeful. be host mystic. our struggle is not the struggle of a day, a month, or a year. it's struggle of a lifetime. never be afraid to make some noise. and get in good trouble. necessary trouble. ise. and get in good trouble. necessary trouble. to build unlimited right.

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