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one of ten children born to sharecroppers in rural alabama in 1940. he grew up on his family's farm and attended segregated public schools, inspired by the young boy by the activism surrounding the bus boycott and inspired by the dr. reveremartin king who hd on the radio. in 1961, joining in the freedom rides, which challenged segregation at interstate bus terminals across the south. >> i was not concerned about making history. i just wanted to change things. >> while still in his 20s, he became a nationally recognized leader. >> i grew in the way of love, the way of peace, the way of
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nonviolence, the way of forgiveness. >> reporter: by 1963, he was dubbed a leader in the civil rights, helping plan the march on washington. >> i have a dream. >> reporter: 1965 when he helped spearhead one of the seminal moments of the civil rights movement, leading 600 peaceful protesters against the edmund pettus bridge, marching in civil rights of voting. it became known as bloody sunday. >> i lost consciousness. 50 years later, i don't recall how i made it across that brven bridge to the little church we had left from. >> reporter: news broadcasts and photographs of the cruelty helping to hasten the passage of the voting rights of 1965.
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>> we were taught never to become bitter, never to hate. >> reporter: his activism continued in congress. >> we have losts hundreds of thousands of innocent people to gun violence. >> reporter: in 2016, after a mass shooting at an orlando nightclub killed 49 people, lewis led a house sit-in, trying to force a vote on gun legislation. john lewis often spoke of the good trouble he caused in the 1960s and in the political fight since. invoking the moral courage that fueled his lifelong fight for civil rights. >> when you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something, to do something. >> reporter: geoff bennett, nbc news, washington. >> from washington now to georgia. the state, of course, john lewis represented for more than 30 years. blayne alexander is in atlanta with more on the growing memorial to the civil rights icon. >> reporter: well, alex, hello to you. we are in downtown atlanta.
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this is the heart of congressman lewis' district. it certainly should serve as no surprise that just within hours of getting the news of his passing, we already started to see a number of tributes here. flowers, signs, posters, people leaving things. i want to pull out and show you the magazineny feud of what he meant to the people here. this is a mural that's been on the side of this building for several years. it has one simple word. hero. even before his passing, we would typically see people come here just to take pictures. it was a place people would often flock to celebrate the civil rights icon. the location of it is also very striking because it is right off the main highway, right off the downtown artery. when you drive through downtown, you see it every day. so, certainly make a large statement. it certainly leaves no question that he was beloved here in atlanta but it's very clear he was beloved all over the country. i want to read some statements to you. i really want to start with a statement from his family saying he was honored and respected as
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the conscience of congress but we knew him as a loving father and brother. house speaker nancy pelosi tweeting he was a titan of the civil rights movement whose goodness, faith and bravery transformed our nation. every day of his life was dedicated to bringing freedom and justice to all. and mccarthy also talking about the times he would travel with congressman lewis to selma, alaba alabama, to re-enact that march across the edmund pettus bridge. he wrote, his life and legacy of a congressman and civil rights icon will endure. alex, one of the many tributes we're seeing pouring in across the country and right here in atlanta, the district he served for 17 terms. >> indeed. blayne alexander, thank you for that. civil rights and congressional leader. for that, let's go to josh
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lederman, joining us from the white house. what are you hearing on this front? and what about the president? >> the president has not spoken out personally about this yet, alex. we did hear from the president through a written proclamation that the white house released in the last few minutes, ordering flags here at the white house, as well as at u.s. embassies and military bases around the world to be lowered to half-staff. the flag here at the white house was lowered to have staff around 9:30 a.m. and around the same time at the u.s. capital just down pennsylvania avenue at the order of house speaker nancy pelosi. those flags, according to this proclamati proclamation, will be lowered for the remainder of today. we're also hearing from the president's press secretary, kayleigh mceneny, saying that lewis was an icon of the civil rights movement and he leaves an enduring legacy that will never be forgotten. mceneny going on to say we hold his family in our prayers as we
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remember john lewis' incredible contributions to our country. and, alex, that voice adding to a chorus of tributes to john lewis that now includes every single u.s. president, including president george w. bush, whose inauguration john lewis actually boycoted, but bush putting that aside today to praise the civil rights icon. we're also hearing from the nation's first black president. it was only about nine years ago that president obama bestowed the presidential medal of freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor on congressman lewis. obama praising him in a statement today, saying he loved this country so much that he risked his life and his blood so that it might live up to its promise. obama going on to say that through the decades, congressman lewis not only gave all of himself to the causes of freedom and justice but inspired generations that followed to try to live up to his example.
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a chorus of praise from former presidents, from members of congress, from civil rights activists that is only growing as more and more people wake up to this news today, alex? >> josh, i do recall john lewis boycotting president donald trump's inauguration. i had forgotten about president bush. to do a bit more thinking about it in discussion joining me now is chairman of andrew j. young. mayor young, big welcome to you, sir i heard you on the network. this is a very difficult day for you, in part because you and lewis have known each other for such a long time. i would love to hear some of your earliest memories of him. >> well, my earliest memories with john is when he was a student on campus and everybody else was having fun with the fraternities and sororities, and
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i saw this small group of eight young people who were going in a completely opposite direction. and i said where are they going? and that was john lewis, going to -- around downtown nashvil nashville -- had agreed to desegregate and they were just making sure they desegregated. he was a follow-up guy. he was consistent. he not only marched on the edmund pettus bridge for voting rights act, he became the executive director of the southwide voter education project, to register voters across the south. and he was part of that group that understood that we had to move from the marches to the ballot box. and he continued that.
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i don't think there's anybody that's been in congress that long that is loved by more people. he was so humble, so purposeful, so filled with courage. he could almost tell you to go to hell so nice that you would look forward to the trip. and that he never got angry. he was never bitter, and he was just a really sweet guy. >> you know, i have to -- >> worked hard, stubborn and determined. >> as he needed to be, given what his purpose, his mission in life turned out to be. i have to recall when he came here and joined me in the studio for an interview, we'll show a clip of that down the road. there's some people that have that "it" factor. when someone comes into the room, you know they're there without even seeing them. could you have foreseen this
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young man that you knew in college days through his early 20s, back in the 1960s, did you see the future for this man? did he have that presence about him, and that determination that you thought he's going places? he's going to make an impact? he's going to make a difference? >> you know, i don't think that i saw that in any of us, but martin luther king. and we were all sort of called to action by him. and one of the things i learned from him is that you really don't die. that the line between life and death is very nebulous, and that i don't really think i'll ever miss john lewis, or ct vivian, or martin luther king, because i think that the spiritual values that they gave their lives to
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will constantly be returning and coming back to us. and it's almost like they will be marching with us from beyond death. and they will be inspiring general rations yet unborn. and there's a book, "walking with the wind" that john wrote that i think it would be good for us to go back and read. and then there will be a documentary soon called "good trouble." it's worth it to take the time to see how this young man survived from rural alabama in dire poverty to become one of the great leaders of the congress of the united states. >> i think that "good trouble" documentary will be something that people will smile as that starts playing on their televisions, or wherever they're watching it. he loved that phrase, good trouble. he wanted to get into good
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trouble. in fact, there are those who referred to him as the protester's protester. many others of us have called him the conscience of congress. how would you describe him? >> i would say he demonstrated the power and courage that goes along with humility. i never saw him angry at anybody. he wasn't bitter. in fact, one of the reasons i think that most of us are -- have been able to live longer than some of the young people involved is we were never let it get into our spirit. we never embraced the anger and the frustration that goes with wanting the world to be perfect. we understood that freedom is a constant struggle. and we could do only so much --
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you always keep your eyes on the prize and hold on. >> he was the youngest person to speak at the march on washington. he dedicated his entire life to the pursuit of civil rights. what do you think young activists can learn today from john lewis? >> i hope they learn that not to get mad, get smart. that's what my daddy taught me. and i hope they learn that freedom is a constant struggle, and we will never achieve complete freedom or complete justice that life is a process, and we will continue to make
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life better for all of god's children, but i don't think we'll ever get there. only because there, the better we do, the more we're going to want to do. and i could not have conceived of what we now see in atlanta and what we have seen john lewis do. we were in a segregated south that had almost no rights and yet we were not afraid and we had the courage and the faith to believe in god and in this nation. i probably have been to 150 or more countries. and with all our faults, i can't think of any place i would rather live or that i'm more proud to have been born here, with all of those problems,
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because we have the freedom and the opportunity to continue affecting this nation, and we can bring about a better day as our hearts and minds can conceive a better life. >> andrew young, you've given us so much to think about. i know that i asked you what you thought young activists can learn from john lewis. i would make a strong suggestion, they can learn a lot from you as well, sir. thank you so much for your time here on "weekends with alex witt." have a good saturday. one of congressman lewis' final appearances came a few weeks ago when he visited the plaza in washington and spoke about what a profound effect that plaza had on him. >> it was very moving. very moving. very impressive. i think in d.c. and around the
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dr. fauci doubling down on the importance of masks. he says everyone should wear a face covering to slow the spread of the virus and urged local leaders to make sure that happen happens. >> i would urge the leaders, local, political and other leaders in towns to be as forceful as possible in getting your citizenry to wear masks. >> taxing blitz plan for phoenix. as many as 5,000 tests will be conducted daily at two sites, serving around 60,000 residents. new york city is set to enter phase four of reopening on monday. tv and film production can carefully resume and zoos and the botanical gardens can reopen with limited capacity. gyms, malls, movie theaters will all remain closed.
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to florida where governor desantis has not instituted a mask mandate even though an increase in cases finds 30 states requiring residents to wear them outdoors. this, as testing lines go from miles in the sunshine state. florida officials say they've develop aid new way to test. good saturday to you, my friend. explain how this new test works. is it reliable? and how fast is it? >> hi, alex. trying to crank out even more tests as this pandemic continues to grow. here across the state in orlando, orange county, up in jacksonville, down in miami, they've added lanes of self-swab testing.
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that means people will pull up and swab themselves. officials say this will speed up the process. instead of giving a ton of demographic information when they arrive here, being observed by -- having the tests conducted by a medical professional, that process takes a long time. this process will be faster. people can go online, get a code and that will be matched with their sample as soon as they drive away and they're hoping to get people's results in 72 hours, way better than a lot of places we've heard around the country the state has coordinated with a couple of labs that will just do these tests. this is open for anybody over the age of 5 who have symptoms. they want symptomatic people to come out here over the age of 5. one of the state's spokespeople explained what they think this will do. >> the goal of the self swab testing for people with covid symptoms is to get their results
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in 72 hours. this is what the lab has told us. so, we will see how that is. hopefully, we can fulfill that promise for them and get people their results. obviously, all the labs have had very heavy workloads. we've seen it all over the country. all things considered, for the most part we've heard pretty much good test time results considering the conditions. >> yesterday, they reported about 5,000 and the news continues to be grim here. positivity rate hovering around 12% and another 90 deaths reported in the state of florida, alex.
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they hope this will speed things along. >> let's hope so. anyway, chris, thank you for helping us through that. in new jersey today, this was the scene early this morning. outside the state's motor vehicle commission. people lining up, some waiting for at least a dozen hours as the agency opened on a weekend for the first time since the start of the pandemic. joining me from wallington, new jersey. there we are, in front of that building there. motor vehicles commission there. it looks like things have calmed down a little bit since early this morning. it's not that calm. a bunch of people are behind you there, gary. >> yeah, that's right. there's a lost waiting, covid tests, grocery store line or here in wallington, new jersey, at the motor vehicle commission. folks are showing up since july
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7th. they're hoping to get a golden ticket to get inside these doors and get their business done. one woman was here for 14 1/2 hours. she got here at 5:30 yesterday afternoon, sat in this parking lot last night and got through these doors about 8:07 this morning. here is what she had to say. >> this is my third time trying to get done. it's well worth the wait right now. got to do it eventually. but they need to change something. they really do. very frustrated. tired. i don't want to be here. had no choice. >> what is being done about these lines? i spoke to the chief administrator earlier today. they're trying to move as much as possible online, things that don't involve taking a photo, name changes, address changes. here is what else she had to tell me. >> i'm not sleeping well.
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this is a miserable situation for people to have to do this we continue to put more things online and continue to streamline. if people will go to the website, njmvc.gov some of them will find out today they can do it online and don't need to be here. >> reporter: i also asked sue fulton why and whose fault is it that they are sitting here in line overnight? she blamed the state for not giving her the budget and called it a failure across the board. alex? >> good grief. gary grumbach, thank you so much. a chance meeting between one of our guests and john lewis that he says had lasting impact on his life. you'll hear his story in a moment. life you'll hear his story in a moment ♪
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leader john lewis. he died last night at the age of 80 after battling pancreatic cancer. best known for this historic 1965 march across the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama. that is when his own suffering at the hands of abusive police officers turned that day into what we now know as bloody sunday. here is how he was remembered that day in his own words. derek, good to see you again. we've gotten an opportunity to speak to you a lot frequently. today has a somber tone to it, certainly, more than usual. if we think about the most remarkable aspect of his sacrifice was in the face of brutality that he and other black people faced, he held firm to his belief of nonviolence.
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how do you explain that? >> he is part of what i call the emmitt till generation, a group of young people who were approximately the same age when his mother opened the casket. 17, 18, 19 college students, john lewis understood he was part of a continual. through the ella baker. he took to the streets. he understood that his role was not about the speech but it was about the action, and the action needed to lead to the vote. that's one of his votes. that's why his legacy has been
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held up today. it's something for all of us to remember. >> let's listen to him talk about what he remembered that day, bloody sunday, if you will, trying to cross the edmund pettus bridge. >> we were determined. we were organized. we were disciplined. we were committed to the way of peace, the way of love. we were nonviolent. we were prepared to die for what we believed in. they stampede us with whips, night sticks and horses. they tear gas us. they turned our nonviolent protests into blood. >> i lost consciousness. years later, i don't recall how i made it back across that bridge. >> their cause must be our cause, too. it's all of us. we must overcome the crippling
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legacy of bigotry and injustice and we shall overcome. >> five month later the congress passed the voting rights act. >> >> we made them ready to act. >> all the people should have a right to participate in the democratic process. they should all have that elementary right to register and vote. >> my philosophy is very simple. when you see something that is not right, not fair, not just, you have a moral obligation to say something, do something, stand up, speak up, speak out. it doesn't matter we're black, white, latino, asian american or native american. it doesn't matter. we are one people. we are one family. we are one house.
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>> to speak out about it and then recalling those people with whom he was trying to cross that bridge 50 some-odd years ago, he said we were prepared to die for what we believed in. are there other john lewis' out there now? he has such huge shoes to fill. do you see others coming up behind? >> absolutely. there were several other john lewises during john lewis' time. you have many voices, many people. there were other people there. the catalysts. their march was one theater of a multiple the march on washington where they realize d they left n the south a reign of terror.
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he is someone that we should look up to. he is not the only one. that's the beautiful thing about the legacy of john lewis. that's why he can stand in washington, d.c., go to the memorial with the black lives matter. that was the first real energized movement that the nation became aware of, but there was so many other movements before, doing it after that the nation has not recognized. to get a deep appreciation for the many individuals that sacrifice for this thing we call america. their job was to perfect this union. we have made america more like america than america wanted to be. and we think john lewis for that. we also thank vivian, we thank
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so many other individuals, both alive and who have died, both yet unborn and those who are in the streets today. >> a young man ran into the halls of congress with john lewis and was instantly invited to sit down in his office and have a chat. >> he looked at us and told us he was in awe of our accomplishments and the fact that we're harry heealers. we looked at each other and said we wouldn't be here if it weren't for you. this white coat that i'm wear something because of dr. lewis and others like him, who fought, sacrificed to give me the opportunity to be here. john lewis has impacted my life in ways i can't imagine. for me, my mandate is to pay it forward. >> i'm sure that's music to your
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ears, and i'm sure it was to john lewis' as well. 63 years, derek, of civil rights activism. how does one quantify the impact that john lewis had on several generations of messengers, present, past and future? >> i recall a story i heard it many times, talking about him preaching to the chickens as a little boy. he was preparing for the leg as tha we're now celebrating. 57 years ago he was the youngest speaker on the march on washington, chairman of snick, one of the big six that put on the march on washington along with naacp, core, urban league and others. he was deeply committed not only in his words but in his deeds and that's what's most impressive about him. he has been on the battlefield. we should celebrate him in this moment but we should also
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celebrate the thing that i remember last when i heard him speak. bloody sunday commemoration. he showed up on the brinl and said we want to vote like we've never voted before. we must activate on his actions and his words moving forward. this election is so important. if he were standing here now, he would tell us go vote like we've never voted before so we could stamp out racism germinating out of the white house. >> shul. we celebrate john lewis, all of his teachings and we celebrate you as well. thank you for joining me. news after the break. while mary trump may be more trouble for her uncle's administration more than anyone is letting on. reaction with rachel maddow, next. reaction with rachel maddow, next
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the reason he's failing at it is because he's incapable of succeeding at it. it would have required taking responsibility which would, in his mind, have meant admitting a mistake, which in his mind would be admitting weakness. people are dying every day. we need to wake up. and instead of taking it seriously, instead of standing aside and letting the experts take over, donald is hawking black beans. >> that is president trump's niece, mary trump, slamming her uncle's response to the coronavirus, part of a very lengthy interview she gave to ra rachel maddow, while promoting her book which the trump family tried to block from being released. chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" and msnbc political analyst selena maxwell, author of the new book "the end of white politics,"
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we've already been talking about. congrats to you on that one zerlena. peter, before we get to mary trump, i want to get your thoughts on the passing of john lewis. what do you make of president trump not yet putting out a statement on it? yes, the white house has said that the flag should be lowered to half-staff. that came the last hour or so, but nothing directly from the president. >> no, that's right. even last night as the country was absorbing the news of john lewis' passing and other figures were instantly tweeting out their condolences, ted cruz and mitch mcconnell put out a statement, the president was blasting out tweet after tweet, normal partisan politics, attacking joe biden, as if oblivious to what's happening. that speaks volumes, right ♪ lack of a statement says what you need to know. he had his press secretary put
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out a tweet, signed a proclamation lowering the flags until the end of today. it reminds you what happened with john mccain. he didn't want to lower the flags there. the staff had to convince him this was a moment when he needed to rise above his anger at somebody who he didn't particularly like. it's not his nature. his nature is not to be a healer or reach out to people that he has quarrelled with, or the people he might admire have quarrelled with. you'll probably see a statement eventually but it's one of these things where it will be seen as begrudging rather than heartfelt. it's part and parcel of what we've seen with this white house. >> i'm going to ask you, zerlena, about the legacy that congressman lewis leaves behind. what does it mean to you? >> congressman lewis is a hero
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and an icon because he understood the power of the ballot and the power of direct action, peaceful action to stand up for our rights. the other piece that i think is so important to highlight today is that you understood that he was part of a continuum, as derek just said in your last block, but also that he was passing the baton to the current generation of movement leaders and activists, who we see organizing and protesting in the streets this very moment. his legacy teaches us a couple of different things. one, keep going. keep fighting for your lights and keep standing up, but also the power of the vote. if the ballot box wasn't the pathway for more rights and freedom for everyone, then the powers that be wouldn't try so hard to suppress your vote.
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to the younger voters who think perhaps this system isn't worth participating in, remember that john lewis sacrificed his body in order for us to pass our ballots. and we should do so with that legacy in mind. >> amen to that. let's move now, peter, to mary trump's book. what's the inside reaction, given the record sales of this book? are there concerns this is bigger than they imagined? >> look, on some level this is a book that tells us a lot about his family background and how we got -- how he got here today, right? what made him who he is today. obviously a very scathing portrait, unflattering one from the point of view of the president. he has tried to pass it off as a disgruntled family member who is
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violating her nondisclosure agreement when the will was contested and they tried to cut out mary and her brother from the estate. what's interesting about her portrait is that it explains a lot of things, at least from her point of view, that we see today, right? why is it that he behaves the way he does? and she attaches it to his history with his father, fred trump. his need for approval, the lessons he learned in a house that was harsh and unforgiving. it's a valuable book in that sense. the white house would want to dismiss it. most white houses would not give it air, not bring more attention to it. that's something that this president can't do. he tweeted about it yesterday, attacking her, saying she was, you know, barely seen niece who didn't know him very well and gives it more credibility than a
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normal president would do because he cannot help but look for fights and is having one now within his own family. >> he says that the book is full of lice. that's been the official white house response on this. in slamming his coronavirus response, mary trump was referring to a photo, spread of goya products. are people at the white house upset that he used his resolute desk to who can the products of goya's loyal ceo? >> yes. the background is that the goya ceo got a lot of flack from liberal critics of the president for going to the white house and embracing the president. the president is fighting back and saying here is someone i support because he supports me. you're right. we don't see commercial products pitched from the oval office. i can't think of any time we've ever seen like that. ivanka did the same thing on her twitter feed. this is a president who doesn't see the lines other presidents
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saw between politics and governance. he had a campaign event in the rose garden the other day and had an attack on joe biden. that's fair but it's not usually done from the rose garden. they see a difference of using the trappings of the white house for partisan gain as opposed to stepping up as the leader of the entire country. you go to his official events you hear the same sound track, same song track that he played at his campaign rallies. there is no difference. the lines are completely blurred in this case and he has shown in three years and isn't about to change that. >> i'm going to ask you a question about that rose garden appearance. zerlena, look, this isn't in the book, but she was unequivocal in her answers when rachel asked her if her uvencle made racist d
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anti-semitic remarks. >> i have to press you on a little bit if you ever heard him express either anti-semitic slurs, "n" word, racial slurs or sentiments like that. >> yes, of course, i did. i don't think that should surprise anybody, given how virulentally racist he is today. >> have you heard the president use the "n" word? >> yeah. >> and anti-semitic slurs specifically? >> yes. >> now i want to reiterate this is not written in the book, but the white house is denying her claims that her book is full of falsehoods, plain and simple, and add that the president doesn't use those words. what's your response to mary trump's claim and the white house response to that? >> well, i think anybody who has been paying attention to donald trump the pass few years understands he is racist in public. it shouldn't surprise you that he uses racist language in private when no one is looking.
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as americans, we should all have understood the moment he asked for the first and only black president's birth certificate that he may have a problem with race. when he comes down the escalator and targets mexicans, saying they're criminals, we should have understood that this man has a problem with race. i'm glad we are all now on the same page in terms of understanding not just his language and behavior but also how his policies are impacting those same communities. somebody who harbors those beliefs in private and expresses that are implementing policies that are harming those same communities. i'm not concerned about his language in private. racism comes in all forms and the most rare, actually, is in racial slurs, in policies and the way in which we have to navigate that in our everyday
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life. >> so, real quick, how much does mary trump's book matter and how much should it matter? >> the other books about donald trump, this book is very interesting. she comes to it as a clinical psychologist. that perspective is very illuminating. we've been wondering why, why does he behave this way, not have empathy to the loss and harm now we know the why. that's what mary trump has provided to american voters and i hope they take that to hard as they go and vote in november so hopefully, we'll be able to go toward some sort of sanity.
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that state added more than 80,000 cases over this last week, bringing the statewild total now to 337,000. we go to the front lines in florida. dr. nicklaus lamius, chief of critical care at jackson memorial hospital in miami. thanks for joining me, sir. 80,000 cases in a week. what do you make of these steadily rising numbers? >> i think these rising numbers are very important. we're seeing a lot of patients
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coming into the hospitals and everyone is having to adjust to be able to take care of them. >> how close is your hospital and others you're familiar with there in miami, how close are you to maxing out your beds, in the er and icu units? >> maxing out is difficult. we're licensed for 1500 beds in the hospital and don't normally operate at that capacity. we can add more staff and staff more beds but at the staffing level we're at, we're continuously pushing up the edge of the limit but then increasing the limit. it's a bit touch and go minute to minute to make a bed as a new patient comes in. >> i was going to ask you how long. a lot of the problem, maybe not with your hospital but with others, is the staffing issue. they may have a bed but don't
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have the staff to help that patient? >> yes and that could be a problem. the ceo asked the governor of the state for assistance with nurses and he obliged. they sent 150 nurses to us. should they become necessary i'm sure we would reach out to them. >> can i ask you about the curfew going into effect through the south beach district? how much are you encouraged about that, getting people outside of restaurants and bars? they just have to go inside and stay home? >> i'm very sensitive to the position that the politicians are in. 8:00 p.m. is absolutely critical. it's become a party zone. everyone i know who has been there, myself, having been
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walking by to have a look see that it's crowded and people aren't paying attention to the common sense rules that the governor and mayor are putting in place. >> thank you very much. martin luther king iii and congressman jim clyburn provide powerful insights. masked and camouflage figures arresting protesters and putting them in unmarked cars. what's behind the drama playing out right now in portland? g out right now in portland? 49... 50!
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