mr. trump ordered flags to be lower to half staff at the white house and all federal properties including military bases. jenny lewis lived through difficult s lived through difficul john lewis lives through difficult times in our nation, today is no different with the fight against the coronavirus pandemic which is especially controversial in lewis's state of georgia. we'll speak with lawmakers fighting to prevent covid-19. also, some of you have shared your personal stories of meeting john lewis, i'll share few of those stories later in the hour. the civil rights icon was the son of share croppers, born

in a small town in a l bama and worked to advance the rights of african-american nonviolently and played a integral move in the civil rights movement. last night he passed after a lifetime of fighting for justice and equality. joining us now, two of his professional colleague that's knew him not as an icon but as a friend. first, al green of texas, good evening. >> good evening. it's an honor to be with you, mr. johnson. >> what do you feel is missing now that john lewis is gone. how would you describe the unique space that he occupied? >> well, let me share this thought with you, you said that he was a troublemaker, it was good trouble, and quite frankly, his words, his deeds and his actions are still with us. so i believe that as long as we

stand on the ground of righteousness and a just cause john lewis will be with us. now his physical presence obviously will be missioned. he was -- missed. he was a calming voice. always there to make that good trouble as you brought to our attention. i do recall in 2006 i had the honor of going to jail with him. we were protesting at the sudanese embassy. we were there because of the genocide taking place in sudan. in 2013 we went to jail again because of skpreens comprehensive is reform. i will miss his leadership. over six declaration aids he was -- over six decades he was a civil rights leader. and we support the honorable

john lewis. >> here's a clip to congressman lewis reacting to the protests that have been going on in the last few months. listen. >> i think we send a message we will not give up on justice, we will not give up on fairness, we'll continue to press, to press on for what is right, for what is fair, for what is just. >> congressman, do you feel john lewis accomplished what he wanted to accomplish? >> well, let me send my condolences and sympathies to his family and friends. with reference to his accomplishments, i think we all have a course to run and i think he can be very proud of finishing his course. there's another generation that's coming on board and they too will pick up the torch of freedom and they'll move it

forward. we all have a watch and on his watch he did exsealedingly -- ed seeding seedin exceedingly well. he advanced human rights around the world and was accustom to the movement to end racism. his watch was one he took personally and seriously and he srveed us well. -- served us well. he knew what he was confronting when he crest the edmond petis bridge, and he knew they were there and with clubs they beat them back to brown chappell where they started. he told me personally he thought he was going to die but he didn't. and because he lived and because the world saw the horrors of segregation, the civil rights act, the voting rights act was passed and president johnson was able to sign it. it was written in ink but signed with the blood of john lewis and

others on that bridge on bloody sunday, reverend vivian was one as well. >> reverend c.t.vivian who also passed away on the day john lewis as well. -- now edmond petis was a leader in cue klux clku klux klan -- an - p congressman what are your thoughts on renaming the bridge? >> we always think about the history of mr. petis. i think there's many ways to recall his history.

we can have it presented in proper context. i will not be effected if this bridge is called the john lewis bridge in some way. he shed a lot of blood on that bridge and to have it named after him. to put to rest this rebel, mr. pettus, would not offend me at all. but i do think the opinions of the people in the area where the bridge is, they're important. and i would respect their opinions. but for me, because of what that bridge meant to john lewis and the others who were there on bloody sunday, it will not offend me if the name is change and i'd celebrate the changing of the name. >> congressman al green in texas, in the houston area, appreciate you making time for us, thanks very much. let's continue our conversation with congressman, maxine waters of california,

welcome. >> thank you so much for having me on today to pay tribute to john lewis. he was a friend. i knew him long before i came to congress, of course with his work in the civil rights movement. i was pleased to join him if congress. of course i tweeted just last night that we don't honor him simply because he was a civil rights icon but' was a man of impeccable integrity. you don't find many human beings who sacrifice so much for peace and justice and equality. he did all of that in so many ways, starting with the student nonviolent coordinating committee, working with dr. martin luther king. he was there on all the major issues, to get rid of apartheid

in south africa, working with nelson mandela, and he was there when we started to deal with what was going on with aids in the black community, he's been there on all issues, the lgbtq issues that he's stood up on and spoken out for. and so his life was dedicated to civil rights to justice. i'm so pleased that the media is giving so much time and tension to him. -- and attention to him. his work. this is so honorable for all of us to be involved in the way that we are. i've been quite saddened over the last hours, but, you know, i've received a lot of calls from so many friends because they knew we were very close. and so i'm feeling better now that he's getting his due. >> right. >> that he's getting recognized for what he has done.

and so, thank you again for having me on this evening. >> i wonder what you you think is the best thing to do to honor john lewis for those who consider themselves part of his legacy and enduring impact on america. what would you say is the one best thing, as someone who knew john lewis, that people should do to honor him. >> well, first of all, i just want to mention he was part of something called faith in politics and every year at the same time that we marched across the edmund pettus bridge, he would have faith activities, they'd go to montgomery, to the civil rights museum. they were following the path of john lewis. all of them have to stand up,

time to talk about what's influenced them and why we have the problems we have, the racism that we have, and how we're going to undo it. so i'm expecting that there's going to be a more honest confrontation on racism and these issues and people are going to bring out how their families sometimes influence them and what they've learned now having been, you know, with edmund pettus bridge he ith edmund pettus bridge h john lewie h -- john lewis what he put into it. and some of the conservatives always wanted to be seen with john lewis at the time we marched across the edmund pettus bridge so they can claim constituents who were black so they can say they were aligned with him. so he's given back a lot and

this talk renaming the edmund pettus bridge i agree with that. that would be wonderful. i've been going on the marches with him ever since i've been in congress. i'd love nothing better to be on the edmund pettus bridge when we change the name to the john l.lewis bridge. >> one more thing i want to ask you about before we let you go, the brutality that john lewis bare including on the edmund pettus bridge, is a recommend he -- resemble now what's going on a memo warned the federal officers deployed to protect in portland, oregon, didn't have training in riot control or mass demonstrations and the memo reads in part, quote, moving forward, if this type of response is going to be the norm specialized training and standardized equipment should be

employed to the agencies. unquote. congresswoman waterers what do you make of this? >> first of all in a democrats we should not have a operation where people are identified addressed in war clothing picking up people on the street that they identify as protests. this is dangerous. this sounds like some other country that does not have a democracy. i don't know how all this got organized. but the american people have got to understand, this has got to stop. it has gone too far. we're living in some very dangerous times. i don't even want to talk about the president this evening. i don't want his name in the same conversation with john lewis but we know where it's coming from. we know where the leadership for this kind of activity is being organized. we've got to stand up. and for all of those members of congress who think anywhere not going to be be reelected to office if they stand up against

this kind of policing, this kind of abuse, they better get the courage, the kind of courage john lewis showed us. i mean, he put his life on the line. you mean to tell me we can't put an election on the line? i don't get it. we better stand up or we'll find ourselves in what some people think we're headed toward, a civil war. >> congresswoman maxine waters i appreciate you making time for us, thank you very much. >> thank you. much more to come, coming up, coronavirus may be the biggest crisis under president trump's tenure. what can be done to control it, next. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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john lewis often said it was our responsibility to speak up when we see injustice. critics of the trump administration would argue the spread of the coronavirus count

the death tolls reaching new highs. america set a new high in one day well over 75,000. more than 3.7 million people are known to have contracted the virus. more than 140,000 americans have lost their lives, including a growing proportion of younger people. today arizona recorded the most deaths in a single day, 147. in texas, 85 children under the age of two have tested positive. more than half of those children are under the age of one. most states have some form of a mask mandate in place. president trump has made it clear that a national mandate is not in his plans. >> will you consider a national mandate that people need to wear masks? >> no i want people to have a certain freedom and i don't believe in that, no. and i don't agree with the statement that if everybody wears a mask everything disappears.

hey, dr. fauci said don't wear a mask. everybody saying don't wear a mask. all of a sudden everybody's got to wear a mask. as you know masks cause problems too. with that said, i'm a believer in masks, i think masks are good. >> with that let's get to white house corresponder and a veteran part of presidential campaign who is starting a campaign to rename the edmund pettus bridge. and an msnbc contributor. and a emergency physician from texas and a former army major and iraq war veteran. good to have everyone. doctor, let me start with you, regarding what's going on with texas. i as i understand it you're not geographically near where these babies are getting the virus, what are you seeing in odessa.

perfect things getting better or worse or the same. >> sure. and thanks for having me and the other panelists. what i'm seeing on the ground is two-fold. so imagine you have -- is. [ inaudible ] and on my last shift there of ten hours ten hour [ inaudible ] the sicker patients will come in. it's stuck between the two. i think there's something to be learned from that. it's that in this back drop you

can't -- listener, you know, you can't predict who you're going to be are you going to be the walking wow, few nifles not many symptoms don't need to get out of your car to be tested. >> gentleman. >> or will you be the person on the other end of the spectrum who unfortunately we lost one of our employees couple days ago, our flags are at half mast. she was in her 40's, we're seeing people in their 20's, 30's. so looking at this, i can tell you when this is all over but it looks like the morality rates somewhere around 3%. what does this mean for our listener -- >> hey, doctor, i am really sorry to interrupt you. we're having trouble with the audio, i want to hear you but want to make sure everyone else hears it too. let's clean up the audio on your end. really sorry to interrupt you. while we're working on that.

let's go to jeff, the president hasn't put forth any control of coronavirus lately based on the latest poll the strategy is not working well. jeff, what is your sense what the white house's plan is from here? >> well, my sense right now is that the white house might move on, you can see that based on the events the president has been doing in the past week. on monday he held a hour long conference in the rose garden he barely mentioned the coronavirus. he has done events on deregulation. he went to atlanta and talked about getting rid of some environmental rules. he's focused right now, i think, clearly on his reelection and wanting to talk about something else. i thought that the clip that you played at the beginning of this segment with his interview with

chris wallace is also telling. he's reference old guidance from dr. fauci and the surgeon general about mask wearing. that is -- the science on that is significantly clearer now than at the beginning of this pandemic and that's not the guidance that you hear the doctor citing right now but yet is still something the president is citing as a reason not to have a national mandate or not to encourage people more than he has. i think it's all connected and the president is eager to move on. >> the biden campaign has stayed quiet not silent but not as vocal as a campaign would be at this point but then again what is typical about 2020. how do you assess the campaign's response to what the administration is doing. i've heard it zriebled in -- described in a way as a rope a dope where they lean back and hope president trump will burn himself out.

i could see that making sense if the laws of political gravity were normal but they're not right now. so how do you see it. >> look, donald trump is his own worse enemy and not only his own worse enemy but he's become the enemy of even his own party, party of republicans. we're seeing a president who is an abject failure at leadership when the country needs leadership the most. going out playing games whether or not we should wear masks, whether or not there should be a national mandate wearing masks. we mandate seatbelts, and not so everyone will survive a car crash but because chances of survival are so much better when you do it. and for the president to continue to play politics is not just irresponsible it's morally wrong. and we're seeing deaths that didn't have to happen. this did not have to happen to the level it did. >> do you think that joe biden needs to be out saying that more frequently or is what he's doing

now kind of the best thing for him to do? >> you know, i think he has a perfect balance right now. he allows the president to go on t vshs and -- tv and engage in nonsense and comes on to act like the president of the united states. which is a great juxtaposition for the campaign and allows voters to see what we could have come january 20, 2021. >> theresa we learned president trump is proposing eliminating $50 billion in aid to states, that's in a bill written by republican senators, was your sense what impact that might have? >> it's absolutely huge. the reason that we are in this state is that there's no federal response. so you have loca-- localities hobbling together decisions. i was speaking yesterday with the medical director of sonoma

county facilities in st. josephs and he said every morning i go to work and feel part of a death panel. i have to decide who can be administered the right dosage of medication and who should get a ventilator that is malpractice, we have to stop saying incompetence at the white house, it's malpractice. we should be doing what the rest of the developed world is doing. when we first got into the pandemic italy had an all-time high, leading sadly in covid deaths, now they have their systems under control, europe, china and even south korea has their systems under control. the difference from them to us is the fact created a plan that was done at the top of their administration all the way down

to municipalities. we are lacking that leadership. >> panel i'd like you to stick around. doctor, sorry about the audio issues but marrii for heard you talking about dealing with the walking well and people that need more hospitalization and we'd love to talk about how that is shifting and how you'll dealing with it. doctor, i appreciate your time. thank you. rest of the panel do stick around. we have much more to discuss. ahead georgia's fight to contain coronavirus is pitting local and state governments against one another. did any of you hear the "bundle your home and auto" part? -i like that, just not when it comes out of her mouth. -yeah, as a mother, i wouldn't want my kids to see that. -good mom. -to see -- wait. i'm sorry. what? -don't kids see enough violence as it is? -i've seen violence. -maybe we turn the word "bundle" into a character, like mr. bundles. -top o' the bundle to you.

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when it comes to fighting covid-19 face masks work, the evidence is overwhelming. perhaps equally overwhelming is the opposition some americans express to wearing them. it is a major factor in our nation's inability to get this

pandemic under control. some states stead fastly opposed requiring masks statewide and now a number of them are reluctantly changing course. on thursday alabama began requiring masks in public spaces with the exception of exercise, public speaking and voting and worship services, that mandate in alabama runs through the month. georgia is among the top ten states with the highest number of new cases. that state is encouraging residents to wear face covering where feasible but the governor banned local governments from passing mask requirements. atlanta issued its own mandate requiring face covering and now governor kent is suing atlanta, arguing that the requirement is beyond the city's authority. the mayor of savannah, georgia, set a requirement last month and called governor kemp decision not sensical.

>> i've been flagger gasted by what has occurred in a situation the state of florida is a hot spot situation and alabama has mandated mask our governor would not only roll it back but also try to forbid cities in being able to carry out the mask mandates as we've already declared them. on one end we're fighting covid on the other end we're fighting our governor. our hands should be totally and unequivocally working to fight this virus. >> here is mayor johnson to speak with us now, good evening. >> good evening, thank you for the opportunity. >> before we talk about masks and covid-19, i'd love your thoughts on the death of congressman john lewis, especially since as i understand it you knew him directly. >> had the opportunity, last time i saw him was at the democratic debate in atlanta, i

was a candidate for mayor at the time and he was so gracious and so kind to me, so encouraging. a living legend has transitioned to an eternal legend and i'm always reminded that i'm standing on bridge that's his pain, his sacrifices built, which is why it's so necessary to be in this good trouble, this necessary trouble. >> regarding governor kent's push back to municipal mask requirements, why do you think he's pushing back. i'm sorry to ask you to read someone else's mind. what's your best guess to that rationale? is it really about enforceability under the law? or is there something else? >> no because we've had no problems in the cities that have pushed forth a mask ordinance to be able to enforce it. the issue is politics, the issue is people, the issue is personal. this is not the time.

we're trying to save lives in georgia and i think it's unacceptable at this time, at this stage of the game to be one of the ten hot spots in our nation. it's unacceptable. all i'm trying to do is help save savannah. we realize the science is clear, masks work. that's the bottom line. i can't understand why at this point we'd be in legal issues with our own governor, i mean, what sense does that make? >> i want to be clear what you're saying, when you say this is politics, you're kind of, by extension inferring that governor kentavious kent vious kt governor would rather more georgians get sick and possibly die out of some political calculus than do everything possible to protect them. >> well, again, i'm not a mind-reader. but on the other end of it, if you have the science from the federal government down to the state government saying that masks work, if there's a report

that came out the white house's own coronavirus committee that says that they recommend that georgia have a mandatory mask mandate then i don't know if i other reason you would strongly encourage masks but not mandate masks. we know that masks work and with us breaking records in all the wrong directions. it's time for us to put politics aside, put personalities aside, and really focus on addressing coronavirus. i mean, this is our fight, it's not against each other. >> who is covid-19 mostly effecting in savannah? who is hit the hardest? >> well, in savannah we recognize that we are majority-minority city, so when you look at the data of course it's attracting the majority. across georgia, a cross the country, we know that people who are the least to last in the loss are more susceptible having longer term issues when it

relates to covid. of course most people survive covid-19. reality is how do they survive after this is all over. how have their life changed because of covid-19. has home life been effected? all these other social and economic issues also play into this. and that's why, and we've been trying so hard in savannah to keep the faith and follow the science. we have faith that we will get through this. we know we will because we believe jointly in a higher power. but on the other end we believe we have science that's pointed us in the right direction and we know that wearing masks helps us in this process, helps us to slow the spread, that's all we want to do. we just want to follow the science. >> just to put a finer point on that, 2019 census figures show savannah is 54% black. when the mayor says majority-minority city he's not kidding. suppose the governor won in

court and these mask mandates had to come down, including yours, what would you do as a mayor to fill the gap? >> at that point, as far as i'm concerned we will continue to give out thousands of masks not only to our citizens but to thousands of visitors on our beautiful streets. again, we don't want people to enforce this. we want people to comply. we don't want to write tickets we want people to wear masks. we hope, we believe, we have legal standing in all our cities that the governor is overreaching when he attempts to dial back mask declarations based on emerging circumstances and we'll be prepared to make our case in court. >> mayor johnson in savannah, georgia, thanks very much.

governor kemp is also holding on reopening schools this fall. the gwinnett county board of education moved forward with opening schools next month online and in person. a district official says it expects 3 out of 5 students coming to campuses and 2 out of 5 staying home. joining us now school board member everton blair against reopening campuses in the fall. he served on educational excellence for african-american. also a democratic kennedy for georgia's u.s. senate seat. everton let me start with you, there's been a number of reports from various organizations, including children's hospital of philadelphia that note either the very manimental -- developmental risk of keeping kids away from school or

guidelines to minimize health risk. it sounds like there are ways this might be done. why not do it. >> absolutely. and we should do those things. our reality is that we've known school reopening would be something with which we needed to contend for months. since march, we knew in the fall we needed a clear plan for what we'd need to do and provisions to set forth in order to safely reopen in person. what we've done is sequester that opportunity. where we see spikes in the county every other large metro district choosing the hard decision to resort to only digital instruction, we need to do the same thing, because we've not already done what needs to be done to keep staff, students and their families safe. >> is there anything the district could have done to gain your support for opening campuses earlier?

>> certainly. yeah. i posted a list of recommendations and i've been working with our leaders to do everything from contact tracing to a deeper access to testing. coordinating with department of public health. ensuring temperature checks on busses. paying our substitute teachers and nurses more. so many other recommendations we could have put in place to safeguard what will be necessary in order for students to safely return. until we do those things unfortunately we cannot summon our in-person reopening. >> and gwinnett county public schools have done none of those things? >> we've done some of them. we delayed the start to our school which i think gives us more time to see where the case goes, and we've also issued a mask mandate. it is a contentious situation that's constantly fluid and

unfortunately are in some respect at the whims of the state and lack of federal investment and lack of planning and also realizing we're in a recession that's having a huge impact on our families what they can even do right now. so we're looking at our data to make the best decision we can but ultimately comes down to what we can do and should have done already. >> john, you are challenging republican senator david purdue for senate and some are optimistic georgia could be in play for the senate race. by about five points. we heard democrats make this prediction before, this year will be different, what is going to make this year different, if anything? >> well georgia is the most competitive state in the country this year. the polling bears that out, the extraordinary turn out in last month's primary bears that out, but putting the politics aside what we need is federal leadership right now that -- and

local leadership right now -- that puts scientific and medical expertise first. i'm calling on senator purdue to takes the lead in washington to ensure districts like gwinnett counties have the resources to comply with cdc guidelines for reopening and if it's not going to protect the health of student and teachers to make virtual and digital learning as successful and enriching for young people as it can be. >> briefly, i'd love your thoughts on the legacy of john lewis. john and then everton. >> well, we're all hurting and grieving in georgia today. and of course across the country and around the world. this man's spirit and legacy are alive and well though he is gone, the way he infused his every act and life's work with kindness and compassion and sought to build the beloved community. young leaders in georgia and across the country have taken his lessons to heart and we'll

carry that torch forward to build an america he'd be proud of. >> and everton? >> absolutely agree. i mean, i think that he has always and will always continue to be a critical civil servant for us, after whom we can model our self, after bhom demonstrated resilient and georgia and gave the best to offer sacrificing himself to do the right thing. >> thank you gentlemen, glad to have had you with us. thanks very much. let's continue now with some developing news. we've learned commerce secretary wilber ross is in the hospital, we're told it's not coronavirus related. he's in the 80's. is the oldest trump cabinet member. expected to be released soon. he's been an active player in terms of the economic efforts to help people stay on their feet

during the coronavirus during the covid-19 outbreak has said when current benefits run out at the end of this month that the federal government should do something else but left it open whether it should be tax cuts or additional funding. we'll see where that shakes out but for now w. >> reporter: l bu r ross, the u h wil bu r ross is in the hospital and expected to be released soon. philadelphia is the city of brotherly love and sisterly affecti affection. but you're going to have to show it with an elbow bump for the rest of the year. all large events will be cancelled through february. sorry eagles fans you will have to stay home for this year's nfl home games. pasadena cancelled the new year's tradition, rose parade, first time the parade has been cancelled since world war ii. this month broadway theaters

announced all performances were cancelled through the new year. you will have to wait a little longer, theaters have been dark since mid-march. three shows closed indefinitely. how much more of this should we expect. joining us now reid wilson, national corresponden the at the hill. seems like a growing number of cities and states making peace with coronavirus staying with us, they seem pessimistic that we'll get our act together and stop this thing. where's that lead us? >> these public officials are dealing with the reality what the coronavirus means and what it will mean for society over the long term rather than fantasy land notion of getting back to schools without proper safety measures. we're talking about reopening nba and major league baseball is around the corner. cities are recognizing life is not going to go back to normal

for a very substantial period of time. probably not until there's a vaccine widely available and widely distributed and widely accepted by americans who significant percentage of us are not willing to get a vaccine until the vast majority of us are protected from this virus life will not go back to normal. >> add to that, states in particular, any governor in the country is optimistic about either this year's budget or the future outlook. even if they can balance it at this time, it feels like all the pressures of running an government on top of covid-19 feels like an easy decision to say no rose bowl this year, sorry, we're not doing it. >> yeah and a lot of states are facing massive budget deficits. i talked to rochester mayor and his budget is down a third. the revenue is down a third from what he was projecting.

a lot of states that couple months ago were projecting massive surpluses and everything was humming along beautifully all of a sudden they're making the great recession look like a bump in the park. >> what's your sense about philadelphia and pasadena, are they making the right calls? is there anyway to go forward with these events? >> i think we need to put a pause on these big public events. had we done things the right way in march in february then that would be a different scenario. if you look at south korea. they're playing baseball with fans in the stadiums because they did it the right way. they shut things down and allowed the virus to teeter out and now they're really investing in medicine. that's not what this administration has done. instead they turned a blind eye to it so there's a good chance we won't have college football this year, that we won't have fans in the stadiums come football season. life as we know it will change

until we're able to get a vaccine because this has been mishandled. >> jeff, we know how president trump feel s about reopening, about pushing ahead, i don't think the administration has hinted at putting pressure on cities to hold big events. we know the republican national convention is coming up in jacksonville and will be held part indoors, part outdoors. where do you see the president fitting into this debate? is the rnc telegraphing the administration's longer term intent? is that more of an isolated case? >> well, i think it's an isolated case and my understanding is that those events at the convention are nearly all going to be outside. but the reality is, joshua, whether that's meant to be a sign of this one event or not, is that the new normal stays in the entire country, regardless

the signal the president wants to send and it's manifest in the examples you've shown in these cities and will continue to do so going into next year. honestly, biggest question is who wins in november and what kind of policies honestr honestly, i think the biggest question is what kind of policies do they set? >> reid, next time you come on a program, you don't need to show everybody up by being on the beach somewhere prettier than anywhere. >> i'm in the mountains. i'm in the mountains. >> go ahead. make it worse. make it worse. just because you're some place pretty. >> winthrop. it's easy to socially distance but when all this is over, everyone should come up here. beautiful hikes, beautiful nature. great place to be. >> see how he keeps digging when i tell him -- never mind, reid, it's good to see you.

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it's impossible to know how many lives your life will touch. john lewis's life touched a lot of ours, including some of our viewers. here are just two stories that some of you sent in about meeting the congressman. mary beth in virginia tweeted, i met him two times. the first time was for the 40th anniversary of the march on washington, right after i read

"walking with the wind" which i brought with me. he was so accessible, so kind. i was starstruck but he put me at ease. that signed book means the world to me, especially now. and rebecca in washington, d.c. wrote, representative lewis and my family have a long history. my grandfather, a staunch segregationist judge, threw him in jail numerous times in alabama. we have stories. when i started doing more advocacy work, i would go see the congressman and his team. he knew me by my married name. when i told him my maiden name, he laughed and said judge never saw that, did he? i said no. and he replied, that's the arc. that's justice. judge hare's granddaughter is a civil rights leader. i don't think i've ever been more proud. that may be john lewis's greatest legacy. that he walked with dr. king but did not lose the common touch.

that he held on to his love of america, even when america felt downright unlovable. it is a lot for us to live up to. i think he would insist that we, at least, try. we have much more to come tonight. up next, a look back at the life of john lewis on headliners. that's right after the break. then, a special edition of the last word with lawrence o'donnell at 11:00 p.m. eastern and the rachel maddow show is on at midnight. i will see you back here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern but until we meet again, i'm joshua johnson. thank you for making time for us tonight. stay sharp and stay tuned. headliners is next on msnbc. headliners is next on msnbc. how about no

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in my younger days, i got arrested and went to jail 40 times. and since being in congress, noe another five times. and i may get arrested and go to jail again. >> he is an icon of the civil rights movement. >> they found the power of the human spirit in john lewis. and he came to symbolize the student movement. >> he believed that he could help a country find its soul. >> risking death to fight for what's right. >> i did not think john would survive. >> he likes to stir things up. he likes a little drama. >> let us