tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC July 20, 2020 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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good day i'm andrea mitchell in washington amid the race for a covid-19 vaccine good news out of the united kingdom today the first phase of oxford university's vaccine trial produce ag strong antibody response in healthy adults that could be stronger with a second dose we break down the study and the president's false statements against this weekend with a leading medical expert in a moment the facts at this hour over the last three days, 200,000 more new cases of covid-19 reported pushing the total closer to 4 million with
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at least 141,000 people dead in the country, in this country states like kentucky and south carolina hit new single-day case records. in florida, the virus epicenter in the u.s., an average of 10,000 cases per day and now a new apm curfew in place in miami beach in texas, the virus killing nearly 4,000 people. 20% of the deaths reported in the past week as more than 80 infants tested positive for covid-19 in one county and the federally funded coronavirus aid set to expire, top republican leaders mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy at the white house today for negotiations with the president and they're at odds with the white house on issues looking to block additional money as the president does for testing and tracing amid the record-breaking surge in cases all of this as the president in remarkable interview with chris wallace of fox news is still making false claims about testing, about the death rate. the science of the virus
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six months after the first case was reported in the u.s. >> i'll be right eventually. i will be right eventually you know, i said it's going to disappear. i'll say it again. it's going to disappear and i'll be right i've been right probably more than anybody else. >> and hearing more from the president because he just announced that the white house task force briefings are coming back as soon as tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. amp polling showed people are confused about what they're doing. and garrett haake on capitol hill joins us, and kristen welker and former republican national chair and msnbc political analyst michael steele, plus dr. joshua vicesteen for practice at john hopkins bloomberg school of public health. doctor, to you first and ask about the significance of reported on the first trials on the vaccine. >> evidently that step forward
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shows a lot of people respond to the virus, a pretty homogenous healthy population, but they did develop not just antibodies but signs of t cell immunity and promising steps. as the editorial pointed out, we're still a long ways to go before we have actual evidence of the vaccine that works but it's definitely better than the alternative. had this study not worked then this vaccine would be tossed aside and in favor of others instead it continues on into a much bigger and more important clinical study. >> and bigger and also less homogenous talking about large groups of people, brazil, i believe south africa, maybe other populations where there's a high degree of the virus and also a very different kind of population to test. >> 91% of the people -- >> the president now -- go ahead. >> 91% of the people were white in this study.
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this will be much more diverse, older adults it will be a chance to really see not just whether people develop antibodies but whether they're actually protected from infection. >> and these antibodies lasted longer than they had expected, at least it was longer than eight weeks also another good sign and this is before the additional doses might be getting to them. kristen welker the president in the oval office with mitch mcconnell and mccarthy the republican leaders not negotiating with democrats but negotiating with the white house to try to, i guess, walk the president back from saying that they wouldn't put in money for more testing >> reporter: that's right. this is a remarkable split between the white house and republicans effectively the white house trying to block money for the cdc, for more testing, to are more contact tracing. they are making a number of arguments including that, look, some of these funds need to be better allocated but republicans
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say, no. we need more money that's to say nothing of the sticking points that exist between republicans and democrats. so bottom line, andrea, there's a lot of pressure to get something done, to get legislation passed, relief legislation particularly with the november election looming. president trump also making big headlines by announcing, as you pointed out at the top, he plans to bring back those it 5:00 p.m. briefings on coronavirus now, i have been told this is going to be a mixture of not just briefings but also events so look for that and it comes as our sources here are telling us they have gotten internal polling which shows that they haven't done enough in terms of making it clear what the administration is doing to try to combat this crisis. so this is an attempt to shift strategy it's also an acknowledgement that the president has to do this if he wants to win re-election. particularly as he trails joe biden in recent polls, andrea. >> and kristen, one reason why
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an event itself may not, may not accomplish their goal is, take a look at this first clip we want to show you from chris wallace, fact checking, pushing back at the president, and look at what the president has to say about testing and about the severity of this disease. >> sir, testing is up 37%. >> that's good. >> i understand. cases are up 194%. it isn't just the testing has gone up. it's that the virus has spread. >> many of those cases are young people that would heal in a day. they have the sniffles and we put it down as a test. many of them don't forget, i guess it's like 99.7%. people are going to get better, and in many cases get better very quickly. >> no country has ever done what we've done in terms of testing we are the envy of the world. >> i mean, kristen, first of all, we don't have more testing than anyplace else per capita in
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the world. but he insists numbers are up because of testing chris wallace tried, called in the press secretary to show him statistics on mortality rates as well as testing that hospitalizations are up, death rates are up and he keeps saying the big problem is testing. >> reporter: this is a claim that the president continues to reiterate, andrea, and his top officials continue to knock it down to say that it's not the case, including nih dr. anthony fauci who said, look, it's not just because of testing it's because as you say, andrea, hospitalizations are um, deap, up as well and rate of cases can not be accounted for solely by an increase in testing this is an instance the president many critics argue he's trying to paint a far rosier picture than exists, downplay the severity of it and comes with mixed messaging the president also saying he's not going to mandate everyone wears masks.
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today the u.s. surgeon general said it should be determined at a state-by-state basis, but made it very clear people should be wearing masks, and that their order to do so was not trying to take away anyone's individual freedoms rather because they believe the science backs up the necessity of that, andrea. >> so, garrett, when mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy go back to the hill and at some point have the to talk to democrats as well as to their own caucus what do they say when -- are they going to be able to dislodge the president off of his opposition to spending money on testing? >> reporter: very well might on that issue reality, start incredibly far apart from democrats on so many of these other priorities. even at the top line we heard in an oval meeting from secretary mnuchin the republican offer here will start around $1 trillion the house passed h.e.r.o.e.s.
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act more thanes 3 $s 3 trillion getting rid of the additional unemployment benefit democrats feel are necessary for workers not able to go to work republicans say it's incentivizing people not to go back that's huge fight and mitch mcconnell in that meeting spoke about including liability protections for businesses, for schools, for organizations so they cannot be sued when people go back to work, they do get the coronavirus. i mean, getting past the testing and tracing part might be easier, because so many republican members of congress they, themselves, do believe those things are important to getting the business community, the economy back open. even if the president doesn't believe that but on some of these other issues, miles and miles to go to pass both houses and land on the president's desk. >> let's hear what the president also has-of-had to say about the mortality rate again, chris wallace trying to fact check him in realtime.
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>> sir, we have the seventh highest mortality rate in the world. our mortality rate is higher than brazil. it's higher than russia. and the european union has us on a travel ban. >> when you talk about mortality rates i think it's opposite. i think we have one of the lowest. >> check it out. >> would you please get me the mort a lot rate. i heard one of the lowest maybe lowest anywhere in the world. >> michael steele, the president, again, arguing about the mortality rate, and also we see that according to all of what we're reading, there's more republican pushback against the president now. gop attempting to push back on a lot of the things he's saying being really uncomfortable about it. >> well, the reason for the pushback, andrea, looking at numbers and in their states, particularly republican senators and about six or seven states right now from north carolina to
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colorado, to arizona, that are seeing their numbers really take a hit because of two things. one the, the way they are tethered to the president and the way there is been tethered to him in the past they can't, you know, decouple as quickly or easily as they once thought, and, two, because the american public is now digesting and in fullness of facts and science what's happening in their backyard. what's happening in their neighborhoods, happening inside their families, and it doesn't align with the res rihetoric or narrative pushed out by the president. no one sees the testing equation the way the president does i don't know who's advising him, telling him these numbers, but they are clearly only telling him what they think he wants to hear that will make him happy and not blow up or get mad and otherwise excited about the facts that don't work for him. so that's why you're now seeing
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senators especially sort of push in a different direction, to push back, because they're taking that hit closer to home, and what was once not in play for's mitch mcconnell, meaning the u.s. senate, is now very much in play this november and that's not a good spot for republicans to be in if they want to have not just a republican second term but also the opportunity to lead on, on other issues in the senate. >> doctor, just quickly, are there any other parts of what the president said on the facts of the coronavirus that are especially troubling to you? >> well, thanks for asking i think it's not just the notes. it's the music in other words, he's wrong on so many specifics, but he's also missing the big point. this remains an enormous challenge. many people are losing their lives, and it requires real, you know, action and leadership in order to make progress in this
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country, and as a result of the confusion that's come ot out of the federal government, there's just a tremendous amount of confusion around the country people in many places still won't wearing a masks. i think it's sort of a political statement not wear a mask. there's confusion about what it will take for schools to reopen. confusion about what contact tracing is all of these things are unnecessary, and i think that, to me, which was just shocking as here you have a public health crisis of the first order, and you have a president who doesn't seem to recognize that it's going on. >> doctor, thank you so much michael steele and kristen welker, of course, thank you and garrett haake on the hill. going to be very busy next couple of days. meanwhile the coronavirus curfew south beach shutting down starting at 8:00 p.m. as florida's icus start running out of beds. >> getting to the point it's going to be full we have gridlock, and we won't
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a number of coronavirus cases surging in the state of florida. now topping 360,000 sam brock is in miami from msnbc. is that helping ought all, do they think >> reporter: we'll find out. time will tell, andrea good afternoon florida riding a streak it does not want to be on. six days in a row the state cracked that figure 10 out of 1 is d 1 days this is so alarming, in
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miami-dade county a quarter cases concentrated here. you see local officials not just cracking down on reopenings but imposing curfews, as you mentioned. miami-dade as a county, 10:00. miami beach, 8:00 p.m. you know miami beach this is a time many folks are just starting to go out to go to dinner visitors coming from around the country right now. the police say that's what it takes, that's what they're doing to do. from the miami pd. >> larger crowds coming out of miami beach. not wearing say coverings. >> reporter: at this moment the state's governor ron desantis is providing an update on coronavirus figures in orlando we know there's a dispute between the state and county of miami-dade over positivity rates. they suspended them here percentage of people testing positive divided by all those that took the test
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at 27% the last figure we saw 10 pennage points higher than the state. they're trying to figure out their discrepancies. andrea >> thanks very much. that could be political math we don't know. thanks, sam. president trump trying to reassure florida residents during that fox news interview. >> we'll put out the flames and put out in some cases just burning embers we also have burning embers. we have embers and we do have flames florida became more flame-like, but it's going to be under control, joining me now, dr. aileen marty, director of infectious diseases at florida university doctor, the president is talking about them as embers and maybe some flames in florida could you give us a reality check on that? >> right, andrea it's actually an incredibly critical situation our icu cases are up yesterday we had 507 individuals
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with covid in icu beds. more than half of those on respirators. on ventilators and we have a staffing problem we have an exhaustion problem. there are more admissions every day because of covid-19. this is much more than an ember. this is a critical situation. >> and he's talking about we're going to get it under control, but -- how likely is it that you can -- you know, stem the surge, and try to bring the curve back down given the numbers that sam was just reporting and the fact that the state and the county are seeing different numbers, and we have to really be very suspicious of the state's numbers, given governor desantis' views on all of this >> well, the county has tried to be totally transparent about the numbers. the problem with the numbers in the county is that we've been
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reporting the number of tests that came back on a day and what -- and the number that were positive on that day but that doesn't necessarily tell you which days the persons were sampled so there is a real problem with the way we've been reporting the numbers nap does need to be fixed, because we really need to align it to when the sample was taken. so there is validity to what's going on in terms of what we're posting. it's not done for a political reason that's a reality check. in terms of what we're going through, it's absolutely horrific and how we're going to manage this you we have to consider the public health issues as a whole. right? because we can't look at one solution to a problem. we have to do a comprehensive approach to try and stem the problems that arise from covid-19, which are much more than just health right? and we have to consider if we do something like a lockdown what
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that means in terms of food security what that means in terms of people's jobs. what that means in terms of people rioting because of security issues. right? we have to have a comprehensive plan that whatever we do we have to integrate everything together in a way that's ideal and best under the circumstance for our community. >> doctor mardy, thank you very much we wish you the best as your hospitals face real pressure with the icu numbers alarming indeed. thank you. and the wall of moms mothers forming a human shield to protect protesters. a shield between them and federal agents in portland as local and state leaders strongly object to a federal presence there. we are live in oregon next stay with us thiss i"andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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a 12-block area downtown you see the protest zone highlighted on the map having damaged federal buildings and there some, you know, some violence there local officials insist the federal forces are acting in violation of constitutional protections and not wanted over the weekend a group of mothers formed what they call a wall of moms around the demonstrators in order to protect them. and, of course, the chance of black lives matter, those chants, you can hear.erin mclau. what about the protests, size of the protests and the concerns about these unidentified federal agents apparently from border patrol, not in the u.s. military, coming unannounced and then making mass arrests?
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>> reporter: yeah. that's right, andrea the violence seems to be escalating in the overnight hours with what were dwindling numbers according to portland's mayor. protests down to the dozens. now in the thousands everyday people coming out to have their say and exercise their constitutional rights. there are some anarchists within the protests instigating a lot of the violence we're seeing as well and also regular people like beverly barnum. one of the founders of the so-called wall of moms i talked to her and she was telling me how she saw what these federal agents were doing here in portland and saw video of federal agents snatching people seemingly off the streets into unmarked vans, protesters, rather, into unmarked vans, and she wanted to have her say take a listen to what she told me. >> as the federal intervention
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made the situation better or worse? >> i will say i saw video -- federal agents taking a person from the sidewalk into a minivan. i turned to my husband in bed an i said, when is enough enough? when am i allowed to say i'm going to stand up for these people, for these kids, people, i posted on a portland working moms group on facebook and i said, hey, you have ever protest brd? because i haven't. i don't know how but i'd like to and so -- i think they're making it worse, because i'm here and i have an army of moms now on my side willing to be a human shield making sure people aren't gassed and whatever else. >> reporter: now, the deputy, department of homeland security secretary, is saying they were acting on intelligence, locally generated intelligence that's why federal agents are here that there's locally generated
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intelligence needed and that's why these agents are here. >> erin mclaughlin thank you for the update numbers increased overnight. moments from now the house of representatives are holding a moment of silence at this hour, as we go to the pictures for the man who became known as the conscience of the congress, john lewis. passed away friday at the age of 80 members on the house floor distanced, many of them masked, but not all. we'll speak with two people who were with john lewis at the 1963 march on washington and authorized biographer coming up. but theirs, this was john lewis, in his 20s as the head of the southern -- conference -- the students -- excuse me, the students' conference on
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king in accept ma selma on the birmingham this became known at "bloody sunday." i spoke with him about this on the 50th anniversary. >> nbc interviewed you on that fateful day before you started the march. >> we're marching today to dramatize to the nation and to the world that hundreds and thousands of negro citizens are alabama but particularly here in this era, my right to vote we intend to march to montgomery, and submit our grievous to governor george w. wallace. >> i remember that day very well we were determined, organized, de were disciplined and we were committed to the way of peace. the way of love. the way of non-violence. we were preparing to die for what we believed in. >> joining me now is andrew young civil rights leader, former ambassador to the united nations, and, of course, a civil
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rights leader with martin luther king as well eleanor holmes norton who represents the district of columbia, and jon meacham, pulitzer prize winning author and a new book "his truth is marching on: john lewis and hope." >> ambassador, how do you remember john lewis? >> i remember john lewis as one of most powerful, humble and dedicated people you know, it's always amazed me how he went to the founding of snake in north carolina. there must have been 70 or 80 cities, colleges there, with their leadership and were all brilliant, articulate, they were all ambitious and aggressive, and yet they elected john as the president. and had they not elected him, they might not have held together, but there's something about him as a kind of a
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spiritual magnetism that attracts people to him and you know you can trust him. >> and congresswoman, you were with john lewis as one of the staff organizersen the march on washington for him to speak that day, was so significant as head of the student non-violent coordinating committee snic as the young ambassador said, did you also see that spark that made him stand out from the crowd? >> certainly because before i worked with march on washington with john i was a member of the student non-violence coordinating committee, and when ambassador young talks about our electing john as the chair, please understand how, why that was done. it really wasn't done in the way we elect people today for office
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or for any kind of -- anything in your own life. john became the head of the student non-violent coordinating committee, because he was the bravest, and when i say that, i really want you to understand what that means. when you see demonstrations in the streets today, they have become routine snic was the, was the bull wowak that broke up the worst parts of the south, and, therefore, when the words took your life in your hands have any meanings, john lewis was elected chair of snic because he had taken his life in his hands more often than any of the other college students not because he was the most articulate or the most iconic in
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any sense of the word. it's important to recognize that, because we see so many demonstrations today, we may not understand what it meant to be arrested more than 40 times, and that's what john lewis was willing to risk, which meant he risked his life not only on the, on that bridge, that pettus pri bridge but throughout the south and that's what our student non-violent coordinating committee was little did we know, john and i that we would both come to congress. and it was one of the joys of my life to reunite with john lewis in the congress of the united states. >> and jon meacham, as we were just looking at pictures with john kennedy, president kennedy,
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in the oval office after the march. john lewis told me that they couldn't get a meeting agreed to with president kennedy before the march, because bobby kennedy as attorney general and nicholas katzen bec katzenbeck and others were warning the president it would be violent, didn't know what it would be and even had a plan to cut off microphones if it became violent, which they had no intention of being violent pictures came afterwards that was notable. >> it was. look where john lewis is there the ambassador and the congresswoman can i think affirm this james forman, also a snic colleague used to say, get out in front don't get in the back. but lewis would not put himself forward in moments like that. in fact, i think it annoyed some of the people in the communications world of snic
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that their guy seemed more humble, but that's what he was. and it was a kind of heroic humility, and heroic humility is the test, one of the tests, of a saint, and of a martyr and that's what john lewis was and we're not being sentimental, gauzy, over reacting to the emotion of his death in saying that the picture of lyndon johnson is on the day the voting act was signed which came about because sclc and sniced ambassador was there, within a great bout of controversy wirth the movement itself one of the things important to remember and he would want us to remember is none of this was easy it feels a little bit like a fable now, the movement. the images are so iconic
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they're beautiful. the cause, so just but it was hard. be and it is hard. and the lesson of lewis is as he put it you have to open yourself up to what he sometimes called the spirit of history. and to him, the spirit of history was rooted in the gospel it was rooted in the story of jesus, the sermon on the mount, the tactics came from gandhi, leaders like howard thurman and others had learned the tactics of non-violence from the experience in india. they brought them to the american south men like james lawson, women like ella baker, who was instrumental in the founding of snic there was this great cloud of witnesses, and john lewis walked point. >> well, he also in that arc of his role had to make a very
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tough choice in 2008 the debate of barack obama during the primary season between barack obama and hillary clinton, and i wanted to share when i interviewed him that day on why he decided to endorse obama. his answer was quite surprisings a bridge in selma. it was much easier than the decision that i have to make, but i had to make it. >> you're saying this decision was harder than the selma march? >> it was much -- tougher. >> congressman, you got your head beaten in your face was covered with blood. >> well, this is toucher i'm dealing with friends, people that i love, people that i admire part of my extended family. >> andrew young, he was really
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caught in that campaign, but for him to see the election of the first black president was such a milestone, and he had an extraordinary closeness with barack obama. >> and i didn't. >> but it meant so much to him. >> it did. it meant -- it meant a lot to president obama. and i thought after the other preachers had been kind of trashed for supporting him, that my joining him would only be a burden. and i was comfortable, i had known hillary clinton since she was in college, and -- i did not know president obama very well at all in fact, i had hardly met him, and i made the mistake of reading his second book before i
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read his biography, and his second book was not nearly as impressive as his biography. and i didn't, i really didn't know what was going to happen, and i -- felt that there was a certain loyalty that was more important than race. >> jon meacham, your final thoughts, and last moments here about the significance of john lewis going forward? >> well, if i may, speak for both of us, andrea congresswoman norton and ambassador young are part of that great cloud of witnesses that have made the country a better place not a perfect place. but we stand on their shoulders, and they with congressman lewis with dr. king and innumerable others have made this a country
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worth fighting for and i think one of the things we're burying john lewis, but we're always going to be motivated by, if we do the right thing, the spirit that led these amazing people, two of whom are here, who insisted that justice would come down like walkers and righteousness like a mighty stream. >> with that, i thank you all for the privilege of interviewing you and talking to you today and sharing your reflections. our thoughts are with the family, the longtime staff of congressman john lewis so loyal, so devoted of course, he passed away at the age of 80. arrangements are being withheld for now by congress. the announcement out of respect, first, to the family of the reverend c.t. vivian, the other icon who died on the same day. we'll be right back.
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it could not be a better moment for you and your guest to be on, on our air in primetime. >> i am excited about this tonight. yeah. and not offended by black lives matter we offended when the lives "behind the money"money" -- bla lives matter was on, find that quite offensive and called those s.o.b.s and seemed angry about the protests against police violence and actually encouraged police to be more violent. you don't have to be gentle putting people in cars don't worry about their heads being cracked when you're shoving them in the car.
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donald trump is exacerbated everything negative and rotten about our social construct over the last 275 years he has vigorously, for the confederate south which i have know idea why he's in queens no relationship personally to it no military background in his family going back to his bavarian ancestors who tame near the 1960s. no connection. seems to just like the themology, the thematics abc those are the confederate flag were they weren't put there after the civil war. put there in the "50s and '40s trying to send a message you will everyone inner be equal to white people, never have the same rights, never vote. that's why the flag is there, and he's for it. >> joy, going to be extraordinary. especially at a time when he's so disturbed by polling and joe biden is going to speak this afternoon, and, again tomorrow so go-of-good to hear from him
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and listen to your confess and hillary clinton, and all watching check out the premiere of "the reidout" and joy welcomes not one but two very special guests. hillary clinton and joe biden. tonight at 7:00 eastern on misnbc news xbrshgs . before we go from former lady michelle b.j. b an instagram posted even though he spent a lifetime marching, sitting in, getting arrested, his feet kept on dancing, just as he did in a 2018 campaign event for stacey abrams, his home state of georgia. ♪ ♪ because i'm happy ♪won't wait♪ ♪we're taking everything we wanted♪ ♪we can do it ♪all strength, no sweat
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good afternoon here are the latest headlines that we are tracking at this hour a major development in this global pandemic. oxford university says early trial results show that its coronavirus vaccine is safe. we have more on those developments in a moment we're also following new white house tensions with the gop. is the trump administration downplaying the pandemic attempting to block billions of dollars in actual coronavirus funding? l.a. county on the brink of another shutdown local health officials announcing nearly 3,000 new cases sunday
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