xfinity. the future of awesome. good afternoon here are the latest headlines that we are tracking at this hour a major development in this global pandemic. oxford university says early trial results show that its coronavirus vaccine is safe. we have more on those developments in a moment we're also following new white house tensions with the gop. is the trump administration downplaying the pandemic attempting to block billions of dollars in actual coronavirus funding? l.a. county on the brink of another shutdown local health officials

announcing nearly 3,000 new cases sunday the majority of those infected are under 41 and amid an increase of unidentified federal law enforcement patrolling and detaining people in the city of portland, president trump wants to take those tactics to other cities >> we're looking at chicago, too. new york, chicago, philadelphia, detroit, baltimore, all of these -- oakland is a miss we won't let this happen in our country. >> several stories today but we begin with what everyone understands to be promising news today about a potential coronavirus vaccine. this is being developed in the uk researchers from oxford university are publishing new data that shows the experimental vaccine they have been exploring produced an immune response in the early stages of this trial the oxford team saying they hope tobegin human trials within th united states in the next few

weeks. joining us from london is kier simmons. a big story, kier? >> yeah, that's right. because while this was a relatively small trial, just over 1,000 people, there are now thousands more in fresh trials that will establish even further as they now say that they believe that this vaccine is safe, which is crucial, of course, and also that it does bring out an immune response crucially what they're talking about is a double defense. so the vaccine stimulates the body to produce antibodies, which attach themselves to the virus, and prevent the virus from entering cells. at the same time it works at the cellular level to bring about t cells, encourage t cells to attack the virus that's in the human cells. so, double whammy, if you'd like, potentially, from this

vaccine that makes them hopeful, for example, that while we have talked about antibodies reducing over time that maybe this vaccine will be stronger than that, if you'd like. i had a chance today to speak to the lead researcher from oxford university, take a listen. >> we're getting both sides of the immune system stimulated that's fairly unusual for vaccines traditionally vaccines have been designed to stimulate out mo immune responses, that's been the focus of other types we get responses that are functional, mutual as the virus, they stop it infecting cells, which in addition they're getting this cellular response from liymphocytes that can kill the infected cells so that increases the chances that this type of vaccine will be effective >> new trials with more people are already under way.

one recommendation is that they established whether this vaccine works particularly with older folks, with people, with pre-existing conditions. and news, i'm told, from oxford university, that they are preparing for a trial there in the u.s. of 30,000 people. sometime in the beginning of the next few weeks >> kier, from your reporting, everyone who follows this has reason to want this to work. everyone wants to be optimistic. you're actually talking to some of these people involved given their expertise, how optimistic really are they feeling from your reporting >> yeah. i've been speaking to them for months they've always been optimistic part of the reason is this vaccine they developed previously, they tweaked it, if you'd like, for this coronavirus. so that's why they are saying that they think results from further phases of the trials, they will come around the fall,

and they're still determined to try to produce a vaccine by this year but you have to just always point out that there are viruses like the common cold where we have never been able to find a vaccine. it's important to have that realistic perspective whilst being hopeful. >> understood. as always, thank you for your reporting all over the globe kier simmons in london, appreciate t. president trump announcing that he wants to bring back white house coronavirus briefings this comes as his administration in many ways tried to downplay what is a numerical surge in cases earlier mitch mcconnell and house leader kevin mccarthy met with donald trump to discuss the next round of still plmulus fun, all of this comes as two sources confirm that the president is at odds with his open party over this effort to deal with how do you do the next stage of funding? at stake billions of dollars for potential testing and contact tracing. joining us from the white house is nbc's carol lee

>> look, the president announced that he will bring back these briefings in large part because according to a white house official we spoke to this morning is his internal polling numbers have shown that americans don't understand what the federal government is doing. the president has been on defense about his response to the pandemic, now we're seeing them try to get back on offense. the problem is that, as we've seen in the past when the president is at the podium during these briefings, they can veer off into different topics one of the last briefings he did at the white house is the one where he talked about disinfectant being injected into people and that was perhaps a solution so his aides want the briefings to be back they want him to show he's actively involve d in this response but they want it concise and not veering off into other topics one thing he would likely be asked about at this briefing, because he keeps talking about other things, is this comment he

made to fox news sunday about how he may or may not accept election results, that he would have to wait and see what they looked like. listen to what nancy pelosi had to say about that. >> the fact is, whether he knows it yet or not, he will be leaving. there's a process. it has nothing to do with certain occupants of the white house don't feel like moving and has to be fumigated out of there because the presidency is the presidency >> now, this is something that we heard from the president similar line in 2016 the difference now, ari, is that he is the president. so again, this is just one of many topics that are not related to coronavirus, that i think the president's likely to be asked about if he does take questions when these briefings resume. his aids would like him to stay focused narrowly on the coronavirus during these appearances, and show that he's leading this response to try to

turn some of these numbers around >> carol lee at the white house, thank you very much. president trump is not only downplaying the surge, he also tries to blame the number of cases on the fact that we're doing what we're supposed to as a nation, which is testing that's what the cdc, dr. fauci and others have said is important. the president claiming wrongly that other countries may have less severe outbreaks because they don't even do tests >> you look at other countries, they don't do tests. they do tests if somebody walks into the hospital, they're sick. they test them then or in a doctor's office. they don't have massive areas of testing and we do. >> the president claiming that over the weekend on fox news, it's gotten plenty of play you heard the president's words. we want to do something important around here, and that is a fact check. for that, we have willem marx.

>> he talked about people getting tested only if they're in a hospital or in a doctor's office that strange building behind me is the millennium dome, it's a concert venue. people have been driving in here for tests all day. i myself had three tests in the uk i've been able to book them in easily within 48 hours of trying to get a slot. i always had my results back within 24 hours. that's not so easy in the u.s. now. that's something that was addressed by the nih director, dr. francis collins yesterday on "meet the press. >> the average test delay is too long you're absolutely right. the average around the country is three days. in some places it's a week that undercuts the val you'ue o testing. >> what's really interesting is listening to epidemiologists and public health experts, i've been talking to some overnight, they're telling me that trying to link increased testing

numbers to higher case counts is nonsensical. they say that's not at all how it works the u.s. is a large country. it has a large population, doing lots of tests doesn't mean anything in particular if you try to control for the size of the population and the ratio of testing, the u.s. may have a high number there that doesn't matter if the pandemic, if the spread of the virus is much bigger the really important number is the positivity rate. the u.s. right now, according to cdc, is at 9%. that's the percentage of people getting tested who come back positive below 5% is what the w.h.o. says governments should aim for if they want to relax social distancing guidelines. in the uk, that number is 0.5% similar situation in countries like germany, italy, france and spain. that number only very slightly above 1% a german epidemiologist who i spoke to talking to his own government, he's an adviser on a government panel there said the

situation in germany at 0.6% or so is "promising." the situation in the u.s. with that positivity rate at 9% was "very serious. >> willem marx with an important fact check, you're standing in a place that shows that claim was false and you gave context to testing. appreciate your reporting. >> thanks. federal agents who were sent in by the trump administration clashing with black lives matter protests in portland, oregon lawmakers are saying the agents are doing more harm than good. one of those lawmakers is here we'll talk to him live after this break later in the hour, we'll look at the extraordinary legacy of the civil rights icon, congressman john lewis, an inspiration to so many we'll get into that later this hour you're watching msnbc. as a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique.

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tensions are on the rise in portland amid the increased presence of federal officers oregon's attorney general is now suing the department of homeland security as well as other trump administration agencies. the claim is that the federal law enforcement officers who went to portland are effectively suppressing free speech and black lives matter protests and they have arrested some without

probable cause the president said this morning he will take the same tactics to other cities >> we're looking at chicago, too. we're looking at new york. we're not going to let new york, chicago, philadelphia, detroit, baltimore, all of these -- oakland is a mess. we're not going to let this happen in our country. >> i'm joined by democratic senator ron widen from oregon, he's among several officials who have called for an investigation into what is being done in portland he also did write an op-ed entitled "trump sent federal agents to portland to help with his political agenda, not the protests." thanks for joining us. >> thank you >> as you well know, there are many types of debates. the first question given what you have said and written is do you see this as another policy debate where there's legitimate views to be had? or do you see the president

through his administration here somehow doing something that may be illegal or violating peoples constitutional rights? >> ari, let me respond to what the president just said on your program. i wish the president was out attacking the coronavirus rather than attacking our cities. if you look at his approach on the coronavirus, it's basically hands off. the cities, the localities, they're just all on their own. when it comes to black lives matter he is just all hands-on, he is sending his paramilitary squads out there to go after peaceful protesters. and you bet, i don't think it's constitutional to go out there and grab and grasp people without cause. >> yeah. so you don't see this as a debate over how to keep the peace, you see them as violating

these activists free speech rights i want to play something to you from the administration. this is dhs acting secretary chad wolf saying they don't need you or other local officials permission take a listen. >> i don't need invitations by the state, state mayors, state governors to do our job. we'll do that whether they like us there or not. that's our responsibility. >> senator wyden, your response? >> my response is that every step of the way, chad wolf and homeland security, are weaponizing this challenge we know there is hard work to do to deal with racism. for example, i spent much of this week dealing with reducing tensions on the streets with a fresh approach to dealing with mental health challenges but what we also know is that chad wolf and donald trump and he just said it at the beginning

of your program, he wants to continue to escalate the violence he is trying to play to right-wing media and his political base this week i and senator merkley, my colleague in oregon, we'll offer an amendment on the defense bill to try to rein him in >> when you look at the attention here on portland being the representative of the state, what do you want people to know and do you think there is a part of the trump administration's approach here that is singling out or targeting a place that is known to be something of a politically liberal bastion or a place where these protesters and activists are gathering? what do you want people to know about what you see that is really going on in portland? >> of course he's targeting portland the fact is -- that's why i appreciate this program, our crime rate has gone down recently the fact is we don't approve of violence we don't approve of violence in

any form the fact is overwhelmingly or go oregonians are protesting peace think. there peacefully. >> i know you've been out leading on these issues. thank you for your time. >> let me mention one other point. just in the last couple of days a personal friend of mine, sharon myron, an emergency room doc was hit with a tear gas canister without provocation at all. that's the kind of thing going on on our streets. >> understood. that, again, goes to the public safety and the question you have been clear on whether or not some of these officials sent by the trump administration are contributing potentially to danger ron wyden, senator from oregon, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me i want to tell you one other

thing to our viewers, we have breaking news. there's been a disturbing story out of new jersey that we've been following law enforcement sources telling nbc news that a man found dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound in upstate new york is, they believe, the suspect of the shooting of a new jersey federal judge's son and husband. now, you may recall there was a manhunt under way for an alleged g gunman who was believed to have worked and tried to do this disguised as a delivery driver and showed up at esther solas's house, shooting her husband multiple times while he opened the door, then he shot their son, daniel, when he came running to the door. judge salas was not hurt

authorities are trying to nail down what the probable motive may be. with coronavirus cases still on the rise around the country, one of the biggest questions especially for parents is what will school look like in the fall we have a report live in south carolina where the governor is pushing to resume in-person classes and there are concerns from parents and educators e.ik we will be right back.

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we're tracking many developments on the coronavirus pandemic we want to bring you the facts as we know them right now. president trump thinks the white house should resume regular brief fg ings by the coronaviru task force as early as tomorrow. new york city which had been the epicenter of this epidemic in the united states moving into phase four of its reopening starting today new yorkers able to visit more outdoor venues including zoos, though there are capacity limits governor cuomo says he will shut down bars and restaurants in the city again if needed that all depends on the compliance and enforcement of the prevention measures. house democrats say the white house is blocking public health officials from testifying in a hearing on safely reopening schools. democrats said they invited cdc officials to testify next thursday but the white house rejecting the request. a spokesman saying we need our doctors focused on the pandemic

response >> around the country a debate playing out between federal, state and local officials on how to restart schools in the fall in south carolina, many educators and parents are concerned after the governor says he wants to basically have schools offer in-person classes every day. da dasha burns joins us from south carolina >> greenville is the largest school district in the state, that means the stakes are high here some jaws dropped to the flaws when they heard that statement from the governor. he also asked the state superintendent to reject reopening plans that do not have a full-time in-person option she told me this morning she does not plan do that. she will let districts decide what's best for their communities in greenville, they say that five days a week in-person option for every student may not be practically possible or medically advisable as cases are going up.

now, today in this school behind me, they have two classrooms on display that show what in-person learning could look like desks are socially distant there are not collaborative areas. that means fewer areas in these classrooms, and there may knnote that option at all come august 24th if the trends in this state continue for some parents they're not taking any chances at all. i want to introduce you to bridget fuller, she said she plans on keeping her kids at home this fall listen to why she made that decision >> i feel i would be safe sending them back once we knew how to get a better hold of it because right now i feel like no one really knows who has it, how to avoid it, what can we do to stay safe? there are not really much information besides washing hands, hand sanitizer, six feet

apart. once the rate goes down, starts to decline, i feel like i would feel more safe to put my child back into the open world >> now, ari, i have heard from other parents that are desperate to get their kids back in classroom, that they want to have that option administrators tell me safety is the top priority that's how they'll make those decisions. tomorrow the district plans to announce their latest guidelines for august 24th which is the first day of school here ari? >> thank you so much very interesting debate that matters to so many families. we did hear from kier simmons just earlier this hour about the promising news out of the uk of a potential vaccine for the coronavirus. we want to come back to that same story now with an expert medical opinion, we have the senior scholar from john hopkins center health and security how are you? >> good. thank you for having me. >> thank you for being here. we got to all the international

news, now the bottom line starting point for you is what does it mean for peoples lives when we hear these promising results? what is the timeline if it went well >> everything is looking good with the vaccines. we have multiple candidates, which is how we wanted it we want as many shots on goal as possible so at least one vaccine makes it into the arms of people. vaccine development is something that happens in years usually, not months, though we are moving really rapidly the data looks great you have to remember that we are likely going to have to manufacture enough vaccine for the entire world to be safe and rid of this virus. so it likely will take two years or so before everybody is vaccinated we'll start getting small batches, people in high-risk groups may get vaccinated hopefully in early 2021 if everything goes perfectly. you have to remember there's still phase free, we need to know if this vaccine works in the face of the virus. the data on does it make antibodies, does it induce t cells that react, that looks

good, but we want to know does this work when it faces the virus. >> you mentioned the distribution doctor, what do we know from past examples about the best ways to distribute >> it's going to be challenging. what we sometimes see is a concept called vaccine nationalism. whatever country makes the vaccine wants to do its entire country first before exporting that we saw that in 2009 with the h1n1 pandemic being made in australia and export restrictions that were in place until the australian population was vaccinated there are the bill and melinda gates foundation, sepi, a group of them trying to make sure we get this vaccine to the people who need it. we want to make sure our vulnerable populations are vaccinated first and health care workers, but it will be a major challenge as soon as we have an effective vaccine. >> i wanted your views on this ongoing discussion about masks,

which the cdc says is a great way to control risk if you can't socially distance or quarantine. they're not the first resort but a backup to when you are around people the president was asked about this by fox news and chris wallace. take a listen. >> no, i want people to have a certain freedom. i don't believe in that. no the i don't agree with the statement that if everybody wears a mask everything would disappear. >> his response, the concept of pushing or requiring a federal mask mandate and then the claim, you could say it's technically accurate, that everything does not disappear if people wear masks. true up to a point what do you think is important given the megaphone the president has for people to understand about the value of masks as one of the tools? >> we know that there are people out there that have the violence, don't realize they're contagious and are spreading it. so wearing a face covering, doesn't have to be a mask, it

could be a face shield, it's one way to control source control and stop people from transmitting the infection to others i do think this hodgepodge difference between different states, different municipalities is confusing to people and it doesn't reflect the science of what we know about transmission. i do think it's become politicized and having one standard recommendation, such as the cdc's recommendation, would make this easier for people to navigate >> dr. adalja, thank you very much appreciate your expertise on this. we'll fit in a break i want everyone to understand we have something important coming up from the halls of congress to so many marches throughout the jim crow south, people understand the legacy of john lewis, a civil rights icon, an inspiration. after the break, we're joined by someone who worked so closely with congressman lewis to discuss and honor an extraordinary life a life we can learn from now

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we are now just 106 days from the presidential election senate republicans and president trump are under pressure on a lot of fronts including trying to get a new coronavirus relief bill passed by this august republican leaders meeting with the president at the white house discussing all of this we are joined for insights which are often helpful from our friend, msnbc's garrett haake on capitol hill many different stories you

covered down there tchlhere lots of sparring both parties say they want to do things here to continue coronavirus relief make sense of it for us what is the actual detailed breakdown here >> there's an agreement that something must be done and it must be done quickly that's about where the agreement stops here democrats passed back in may their hero's act, which acts as their opening offer here, more than $3 trillion in relief. republicans now are talking about a $1 trillion bill that they would like to start with, which will probably get revealed sometime tonight if it leaks, tomorrow if it holds to address, they say, kids, vaccines and getting people back to work. what does that mean? republicans want to continue some unemployment relief in their bill but get rid of the plussed up additional $600 a week that a lot of people have been depending on. they want to build in liability protection so folks can't sue businesses when they come back

to work if they believe coming by to work they were exposed or sick and the kids part of it is an open question. there's widespread agreement, i guess i can add this category, that schools, universities will need some kind of help to figure out a way to get safely reopened in the fall. the hero's act had $90 billion to help with schools going out through local governments to aid them what republicans will do in their bill to help on that side remains unknown. but at least there's an agreement that these things need to be addressed. this sounds like a lot of circles to square in a short period of time it is. but those unemployment benefits run out the end of this month. congress is set to go out for most of the month of august. they know they'll have to act quickly, we'll see if they can pull it off. >> really helpful guidance on that and the benefits as well as fle these other details affect so many peoples lives we'll come back to you on this story a lot. thank you. >> you bet tributes have been pouring in for now the late congressman,

the civil rights icon, john lewis. he died friday this was after a six-month battle with cancer many people across the spectrum acknowledging how this passing leaves such a void on capitol hill there was a moment of silence held for him earlier today a black drape placed above his door georgia democrats also moving on to decide who will replace lewis on the ballot in november because life and elections do go on lawmakers also invoking his legacy for a new push on the rights act to have it passed by the republican senate in lewis's honor. joining us now on these issues and his legacy is brenda jones she was the congressman's communication director for 15 years. so many people look up to this man and remember him you really knew him and worked

with him i imagine you're still going through the grieving i appreciate you taking some time with us today, brenda >> thank you so much for having me, ari. it is a profound pleasure and honor to be able to talk about such a great man, john lewis was a tremendous person, a wonderful boss, and a legend, an icon in american politics. >> i appreciate your spirit on that i imagine a lot of that comes from him i want to ask you about his life, his work as well as what people want to do about it now the first i would be remiss if i didn't ask you how are you doing? how did you take the news when you heard it friday? how are you feeling? >> well, i think i learned before the public did that he was probably not going to make it when i did get that information,

it was really devastating. especially someone who had fought so much, who was so vital, to adamant, so capable of facing any adversary it was difficult for me to accept that he would be gone so quickly. and it's still very hard to imagine what it will be like to live in a worl lewis. i would say that he -- when he made a decision, he rarely looked back. i think that was true in this case he just decided that was the course he was going to take. he was never afraid to die and i think he just simply passed on. >> yeah. a lot of people understandably are afraid to die. he faced so much, it's interesting for you to share

that with us what do you take from your time with him so many people know him in public, his work, his activism what did you take from him, what did you learn from him in private working for him? >> well, i was talking to your producer just before we came on the air about the presence, being in his presence was a very profound thing he transmitted something, an essence, a spirit that was inspirational. so we could all be sort of working on capitol hill, very tough work, long hours, and having a groggy monday or whatever day it was we saw him the minute he walked in the door, everything would change. you know, he was such an

inspiring person that we all perked up. we all changed, you know, in our spirit, just at the opportunity to be with him, hear what he had to say, get his understanding of politics today he was -- he was just an amazing person to be around, that's one thing. one of the powerful reasons that i think i worked for him for such a long time, and i'm actually a person who is in the midrange of individuals who worked for him, there were people who worked for him 19 years, 20 years, 22 years in the district office, so i did not work for him the longest by any means. and part of that was the fact that he symbolized, he was a

walking representation of nonviolence, of peace, of love he was one of the few politicians who would say that word, love, on the floor of the house of representatives unafraid, unabashed. clear that it should be a part of how we deal with each other, even in a political sense. he demonstrated that he would call -- when we would go through those divisive periods where the tea party was on the hill, you know, a strong powerful way, blue dog democrats, he would call them brother. just walking down the hall not before any cameras, when he saw them he would say hello, brother, how are you that sensibility of human dignity and respecting every single person, no matter how high or low, it's extraordinary

to be in the presence of someone like that. >> i appreciate that example particularly that you say, it's something we might not have seen, how real it was and something we could probably learn from when people are polarized for real reasons i'm sure he and you had real reasons, ethical, substantive disagreements with folks, yet he was showing us and you a way to be i also should mention for viewers, some people may know, some people may not, capitol hill has high turnover young people come in, work on things and leave you have been there for 15 years. other people working for congressman lewis for 20 years, certainly well outside the norm there and probably speaks to, as you said, why people wanted to be around him. before i lose you, my last question is about what do we do? congressman clyburn, who knew him well as you did and others

are saying the best way to honor john lewis' legacy is to use this moment to push the republican senate, to try to get something done they may not want to do. push the voting rights act, rename it the john lewis voting rights act of 2020 i wanted your thoughts on that as well. >> i know there's several versions of the voting rights act. i don't know which version they are promoting now. i think certainly congressman lewis would expect that and hope that fixing the voting rights act could be a priority of the house and senate and the president at this time we certainly need it so i think that is a marvelous way to honor his legacy. i hope that the bill -- bill does fix what's broke when they made that decision

>> brenda jones, really appreciate your time during what we've acknowledged what is a tough time as you reminded us, a time to be thoughtful and inspired by a person with such a legacy for so many of us appreciate you joining us today. >> thank you for your time >> thank you i'll fit in a break. we have about 100 plus days until the election the supreme court is doing things that will make it harder for some people to vote, including forcing this law that bars formerly incarcerated individuals in florida from voting we'll get into that when we come back uh uh, no way come on, no no n-n-n-no-no only discover has no annual fee on any card. among my patisensitivity as well tas gum issues. n-n-n-no-no does it worry me? absolutely. new sensodyne sensitivity & gum gives us the dual action effect

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allow these individuals who served their time to have a vote but the court has now upheld that their right to vote is still conditioned on the payment of fees and fines that may stem from their sentence. basically, an economic stipulation before you're allowed to vote. now, according to npr, which looked into this, an estimated 85,000 individuals who have already registered, meaning they served and they want to vote, might actually face prosecution if they go ahead and try to exercise what is traditionally the voting right with any fees or fines that are outstanding. it sounds like a little bit of a thicket, and that's why we're calling in an expert to help us through this the president of the florida rights restoration coalition, desmond mead, a voting rights activist he helped work on the movement that passed amendment four which does restore voting rights, or maybe not so much depending on where we go from here. first, thank you for being here. let's do it in plain english first, the facts and then your

shoes. the facts are the supreme court did what here? and what can people do if they still want to exercise their right to vote? >> what the supreme court -- first, thank you for having me on, ari. what the supreme court did was refuse to lift the stay that was issued by the 11th circuit that stay that was issued would pertain to the ruling by judge hinkle during the trial for amendment four, for lack of a better word. but it basically prevented the judge, the judge's ruling from being implemented. >> and so what you have here, then, is a situation that this is the reality until november, right? because this is where it sits from the supreme court so what are your views of basically the decision do you think this cuts against people's voting rights and what florida was trying to do and what do you do about it? >> well, i think the supreme court's refusal to lift the stay

really, i think, speaks to the court's refusal to really engage in what we think is extremely important, especially with elections being so near. you would think that having more people participate in our democracy would have been a priority for the courts. but however, because of their ruling, now we're forced to wait until possibly after the elections for the 11th circuit to actually issue a ruling on this case. i think most importantly, i think the problem that i'm really focusing on is the fact that the governor of our state is really fighting the judge's ruling tooth and nail. he is fighting against the will of over 5.1 million voters, and to add insult to injury, the fact that he has yet to hold one clemency hearing that is customarily held by previous governors over the years speaks volumes in light of that he is still welcoming the gop convention to the state of

florida, but he can't hold one clemency hearing to help people get their rights restored. so i think his actions speak much louder than his words and this is a case where partisan politics has taken priority over the needs of the people and the will of the voters >> well, it's very important it's also a reminder as in so many parts of our voting system and criminal justice system, you look under the hood and find out people have to pay something before they're allowed to vote you don't need to be a voting expert or lawyer to think that sounds messed up because we shouldn't condition your right to speak or vote on whether you have money or not, whether you can pay a bill, even if, yes, some people owe a bill, whether that's to the government or somewhere else. some people say it looks like a local florida story. it may affect the whole election i appreciate you staying on it >> thank you for having me >> thank you, and thanks, everyone, for watching that does wrap up the hour for me i want to tell you two things. if you're looking for it, the beat is on at 6:00 p.m. eastern

tonight. i'll be back then. number two, joy reid's new show premiered right after the beat, so if you're not there by 6:00 p.m., tune in by 7:00 p.m. katy tur takes over after the break.

i'm katy tur it's 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east, and breaking news out of the uk today. where there are promising developments in the search for a coronavirus vaccine. oxford says it has developed a covid-19 vaccine that is safe and does induce an immune reaction the vaccine could move to the next stage of testing within weeks. the president defended his administration's response to the pandemic again today, while speaking with reporters at the white house. and he announced that he is bringing back coronavirus task force briefings. >> so i