and our brother as an angel on another shoulder. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thanks for watching. first up on msnbc, 100 days until the presidential election. the crucial stretch ahead for joe biden and whether the president will be able to turn around those dismal poll numbers. swing state polls. what will it take to win michigan? for new insight this hour, we're there live. and shut it down now. hundreds of prominent doctors calling a new national shutdown, saying it is in order to stop the spread of covid. is this too extreme, though? and a new night of protests in portland. thousands sending a message about the presence of federal agents in their city. the unrest continuing at this

hour. as we do say good morning, everybody. it is sunday, july 26. i'm kendis gibson at msnbc headquarters in new york. we're going to start with the breaking news on the west coast as it intensifies in portland. there were clashes in several cities across the country, and in at least one case turning deadly. this is what we have seen overnight in portland. you see once again the protesters, hundreds of them. the size of the crowd really immeasurable by some accounts. some of the crowds gathered overnight to try to get to that courthouse, that federal building that has been there. but it's not just portland that has had it. the situation is still continuing. i believe there was a riot that was declared in some parts of seattle and may have been declared as well in portland. let's get to freelance journalist sergio who has been on the ground. he remains there and joins us

now with the latest on the scene. sergio, good morning. what's it like there? were it's the 59th consecutive day of protests here. local police declared a riot about 20 minutes ago. federal officers, which you can see right behind me, declared an unlawful assembly. they're now standing in a line while they repair a fence taken down by protesters. lots of tear gas has been used and protesters still remain here chanting and saying -- having dialogue with federal officers. >> sergio, it kind of seems, at least based on some of the images i've been watching the last couple hours, that despite this being night 59 or 60 by accounts, that this was a pivotal evening. what happened overnight? >> reporter: i'm not sure it was pivotal. what we've seen since the arrival of federal officers here is a surge in numbers of protesters. we now have big coalitions of

granddads in hard hats, mothers in helmets and nurses coming out with leaf blowers. you should know, though, in the early days of protest here in the first few weeks, there were very big numbers of protesters, up to 10,000, that came out for the black lives matter movement. those numbers kind of dwindled in june, but the arrival of federal officers definitely reinvrein v reinv reinvigorated the crowd sizes here. >> it does seem there are still protests in portland. >> reporter: before the officers were putting people in unmarked vehicles before july 15, pettiboone said officers threw him in a van and arrested him

overnight. they were saying, do we throw lasers? that has changed. the mayor was here and he was tear gassed, saying we don't want federal officers here. the brutality of federal police, which was happening at this building, was at issue long before the feds got here. >> is it over now at this hour? it's after 3:00 in the morning there in portland. have the police pretty much -- >> reporter: it's still going. you can hear them over here still chanting at federal officers, and we might even see some tear gas in the next several minutes. >> we'll keep an eye on the situation there. we appreciate you being there with us and telling us a little bit of what is going on there in portland. as you look at that video that's on the left, i do want to point ought a little bit of what we're seeing there. once again the protesters overnight congregating outside that federal building. that's the very building that the administration says that

they decided to protect. and throughout the night, some of the scenes that i've seen, that fence there, it appeared at certain times that some of the protesters have been able to pull that fence down. the officers that are there, law enforcement responded with tear gas and the protesters threw the tear gas right back at them. day 59 and 60 of protests continuing in portland. you heard from that journalist that even at this hour, 3:00 in the morning portland time, it continues. there were clashes in several cities in the country, and in one case turning deadly in austin, texas and a man was shot to death in a protest there, the shooter taken into custody. in loons angeles, a few dozen i

protest. three people were arrested in this incident. over in seattle, fires set in the capitol hill area as 5,000 people turned out to demonstrate. we are told by the cops there, at least 45 people were arrested, both demonstrators and police officers were injured in the clashes. in this particular situation in seattle, local police declared a riot based on how things were deteriorating over there. the protests largely peaceful for much of the day, but at night it got a little tense. fires were set in a courthouse in aurora, colorado. it happened after hundreds of people declaring justice for elijah mclain, with one protester plowing through the crowd. we'll get word on injuries. hopefully it wasn't too bad, but protests in aurora.

in louisville, a gun went off when a protester was holding it. three people were injured. people seeking justice for breonna taylor, the 26-year-old woman that was fatally shot in a police raid and nobody has been arrested in that case still. now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic and u.s. cases are soaring and showing no signs of slowing down. in the past week, 18 states have set records in daily case numbers. that's according to the "new york times." among those states, california, south carolina, north dakota, kentucky and hawaii. hawaii is now getting on the mark there. on saturday, minnesota hit a new milestone, confirming 50,000 confirmed cases with every county in the state now reporting positive tests for the first time. a statewide mask mandate went into effect there yesterday. in texas several bars reopened

their doors to guests in weekend in what is being called a freedom fest. it was done in protest of the statewide order to close all bars as cases surge. the bar owner leading the action says they did follow certain safety measures, including operating at 25% capacity, checking temperatures at the door and requiring customers to remain at their tables. in georgia, a democratic senate nominee, john ossa, is awaiting results of a coronavirus test after his wife tested positive for covid-19. he said his wife is experiencing symptoms and is self-isolating at the present time ti. he has not held a campaign event in more than four weeks. the fatal grasp of coronavirus fell from coast to coast with the daily death toll topping a thousand four days

straight. south carolina set a new single day record of deaths with 80. dr. anthony fauci said hard-hit states may need to take more action. >> you don't necessarily have to go all the way back to a complete shutdown, but you certainly have to call a pause and maybe even a backing up a bit. >> reporter: but in a letter to the trump administration, more than 500 top health experts are going further. shut is down now, they say, calling for another national closure. >> we need to stop taking these kinds of half actions. we need bold action now to save lives. otherwise we're just going to keep going through this cycle over and over again. >> reporter: the cdc now says even mild coronavirus cases can linger with more than a third of patients with moderate symptoms still feeling the effects up to three weeks after testing positive. >> what's even more troubling is that a number of these patients were very young, 18 to 34 years old, who also stated that they were healthy otherwise and still

experienced symptoms weeks later. >> reporter: as schools nationwide figure out how to reopen, the virus is already impacting a district that became one of the first to resume classes. in alcoa, tennessee, a person tested positive for covid at the middle school, but they won't confirm if it's a student, teacher or staff member. anyone who has been in close contact will be notified, the district says, and have to quarantine for up to 14 days. >> if our numbers get what we feel like dangerously high or if some of our students or staff start getting sick, then we will go all virtual. >> reporter: to slow the virus' spread, more states are now requiring masks. >> it's just so easy and it could help a lot of people. so if you don't, it's just being selfish. >> reporter: while indiana's mandate starts monday, it is underscored by two children who

lost their dad by covid-19. >> you're not pro you, you're not treating other people with respect? florida added over 5800 new cases on saturday, bringing the total to 414,000. covid-19 ravaged florida as scientists followed trump. chris, was governor desantis' decision, was it shaped by politics? >> reporter: yeah, kendis, that certainly seems to be the indication by the "washington post" report. the post talked to 56 current and former officials, state employees, epidemiologists and hospital administrators in

painting this portrait of a governor who really tied his fortunes to president trump, accusing him of only meeting with the state's top health official once in the past month and also that the state health department has stopped having briefings with disease experts over the past month or so as well. this as about one in 52 floridians have been infected with the disease. now, the governor does have his defenders who point out in the article that he has not been inflexible. when this spike started happening last month, he did roll back the opening of bars and nightclubs, and he also took early action to send state teams into nursing homes to try to stop the spread in nursing homes, because obviously we've seen states like new york and new jersey where nursing home residents have been ravaged by the disease. so what does this mean 100 days out from the election? there is some new polling.

this week quinnipiac released a new poll, both national and having to deal with here in florida, and it shows that the governor's handling of the coronavirus has really affected his ratings. when people were asked if they approve or disapprove of governor desantis' handling of coronavirus, 38% approve and 57% disapproved, while 37% approved president trump's handling and 59% disapproved. head to head in the quinnipiac poll released this week, joe biden opens up his lead 51 to 38% over president trump. kendis? >> and many of our analysts,

chris, have been telling me once you're in the 30s, it's really difficult to get out of that with 100 days to go. so you can see why the president lately has been making some moves toward countering the coronavirus crisis. chris pallone for us in orlando, thank you very much. joining me right now is dr. bernard ashby, cardiologist and medical lead in florida. florida now has 147,000 cases. they'll probably pass new york soon. what are you seeing on the ground at the hospitals? is there any sign that the situation is improving? >> thanks for having me, first of all. i think improving would be a stretch. i don't want to create a picture of it as misleading because the hospitals are handling the pace of outbreaks occurring right

now. however, we've been at or near capacity for the past month, and from our standpoint, the health care professionals are being overworked. and the concern from our standpoint is there is no end in sight. and so the community spread is still ongoing, still unchecked, and i could speak anecdotally with my family, my friends, a lot of folks who are sick, at the hospital. i have a few people that i know who are actually in icu that are now recovering. but the concern is there is no clear end in sight, but we actually need to do something pretty drastic to bring this to a halt. >> we appreciate your realistic look at how things are going. as cases in the u.s. are soaring, there are dozens of health experts that signed a letter to lawmakers urging them to shut it down, shut it down now, they say, and start over. based on what you are seeing and what you know, do you think that's a good idea, and is it

necessary? >> so what we're really saying is control the virus. currently our best tool, which is a very blunt tool, is to shut it down. now, i personally, and i think other scientists, we don't want to shut it down for the sake of shutting it down, we just need to do something drastic to bring this virus under control. if there is another way to control this virus, by all means, let us know, but shutting down the virus seemed to be the best way to reset and get rid of this virus. but it's more than shutting down, we need to know how to control it after we reopen, and that conversation is not happening in a robust way. because of that, you can see in florida when we reopened, there was really no mitigation or infection control method, and therefore, once we reopened, the

virus spread unchecked, and we're dealing with exactly what we were dealing with before the shutdown. i don't want to just shut down without having a plan to reopen and control the virus. >> dr. bernard ashby talking crazy here, talking plans and stuff. why would we try to do that? >> it's insane. it's insane. and the fact that we're having these conversations, to me, is ridiculous and we really need to do something drastic, and i don't want to be political, but our leadership has failed us. it's been clear from day one, and, you know, we need to light a fire under them because my patients, my family, my mother, folks are literally scared. they're in lockdown and we need them to step up. we need them to mobilize and do whatever needs to be done to get this under control. >> we are not in the clear by no stretch of it. dr. ashby, thank you for being here. i appreciate it. i do have this program note

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it's a new graphic, i got the chills, all the feels just now. wow. nothing says 100 days like a graphic that says 100 days until the november presidential election. today we are looking at the battleground state of michigan. before covid-19, we saw rallies like this where president trump was rallying his troops in grand rapids, michigan. in 2016, joe biden even had a rally in detroit in march of this year. do you remember when we used to do these? president trump barely won last time, a very, very tight race. but a new poll puts biden ahead by six points. in harrison township, michigan this morning, cory is there.

you made it to harrison township this morning. what are the main things you're hearing today? >> this area relies heavily on manufacturing jobs, but even before the pandemic, the job growth that was promised by then-president trump and then elected into by voters here, the jobs have not come like he promised they would. it was nothing like the obama years. jobs became stagnant, and as jobs were gained, more were lost and factories closed. as you mentioned, i was in lorraine county yesterday. as i was making the drive up here, i noticed business after business along these lake communities that were shuttered. i spoke to voters yesterday about their feelings on all of this and what's most important to them coming into the election. >> i voted for donald trump, and i will vote for him again. i think the unemployment has

affected us to some degree. we're starting to get back up and rolling, and i believe under the leadership we have at the federal and local level that the economy, if we hadn't been as robust as we were before this happened, we would be in a much different circumstance. >> reporter: would you trust trump to be able to get us out of this pandemic crisis and the ensuing economic crisis? >> no. that's absolute no. he was always good at finances, but once the covid hit, it's all over. he doesn't know how to react, in my opinion, to a pandemic. oh, just the sniffles? you know. yeah. he's more financial than people dying. >> reporter: well, that economic first strategy doesn't seem to be working, either, for trump. i talked to lorraine county's mayor yesterday, and he told me he doesn't expect those jobs that have been lost to come back. so what they're focusing on now,

kendis, is going to be tourism, bringing people to beautiful places in the rust belt. for example, like where we are this morning, lake st. clair metropark in michigan. the problem with that, with the pandemic, it's really difficult to bring people in for that tourism. so the economic rebound the president has been promising doesn't seem to be coming to fruition, and more and more voters are blaming the president for the ongoing pandemic. we'll be speaking with the democratic chair here in michigan coming up, so stick around for that. we've got a lot of good information heading your way. >> i will say this. ohio and michigan are also competing with each other. yesterday ohio had a beautiful sunrise, today michigan is like, hold my beer. >> reporter: that's right. >> this one takes the cake. that is stunning right there. interesting stuff to hear from all those voters in ohio as well as michigan. thanks, cori, we'll see you in a little bit. across the country today, we

mark 100 days until the election november 3rd. but we're going to move into north carolina, another emerging battle state. the latest polling showing joe biden and donald trump neck and neck in the tarheel state. biden one point in the lead. joining me now, mary lyles, a north carolinan and biden supporter. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me, and thank you for enjoying north carolina. >> i look forward to coming there again. what do you think of the latest polls showing trump and biden in a virtual tie? we're only 100 days out, as you know. do you think biden's message is resonating with many of your fellow north carolinans?

>> i think the message coming out for joe biden as president is that he cares about people, that he's making a difference protecting people first, and that resonates, because as you know, north carolina, and particularly my city, while we're holding steady, we've had more than 550 more cases this week. and the idea that joe biden is thinking about essential workers and that he's protecting the people with the greatest needs is what we need in a leader right now. >> how much might vice president biden energize supporters if he chooses a black woman assistant as vice president? >> well, you know, i'm really proud that the president -- vice president is going to choose a woman leader. as you can see, nationally across this country, the amount of women, and particularly women that are black and brown, have been stepping up and serving. i'm in my second term as mayor of charlotte with the 15th largest city in the country now, and leadership matters. and leadership that cares about

people matters even more. so i'm so excited about the idea of having a change that we need so much, and i think women get it. we are the caregivers for our elders, we are the caregivers for our children, and biden's plan to support caregivers is important because your health care workers, your daycare workers, all of it makes a big difference. >> so who would you pick if you were advising joe biden? >> i have great sisterhood across this country. i think mayors do a great job, but i tell you, at the federal level we have excellent leadership. i can't choose someone. he'll have to make that choice based on the criteria. vice president biden has said

what he's going to do, he's going to have a woman, and i'm sure the people will serve us well. >> and mayor bowser is on the list. >> they're great friends of mine and we've worked together so well. that's what we're looking for, someone who works with us in this country, not someone who speaks of themselves. >> and as mayor, you decided because of the covid-19 and they wouldn't be able to hold a convention, they moved to jacksonville, florida. what did you think when the president said, we're going to cancel that after all. >> i almost wanted to call the governor and say, you knew we wouldn't be able to do this with this virus in place, because you have put people first again. what i would say is i think jacksonville, like charlotte, made the right decision. we need to pay attention to this

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news from southwest texas where the first hurricane of the season made not one, but two, landfalls, battling the gulf coast as a category 1 storm with strong winds and a lot of flooding. hanna has now been downgraded to a tropical storm, but you can

see it's spinning there in southwest texas and dumping a lot of rain. it had posed a unique threat to the region which is actually grappling with a surge in coronavirus cases. joining us now is reporter rowland rodrigu reeriguez in co christi. rowland, thank you for joining us. tell us about the damage you've seen in that area. >> reporter: good morning. hurricane hanna crashed to shore on saturday, bringing winds close to 60 miles an hour, and that crashed the shoreline with heavy storm surge. more than 35,000 people throughout south texas, including corp is christy and brownsville were without power on saturday, according to officials in texas. hanna was flash flooding. hanna can still bring anywhere

from 6 to 18 inches of rain through tonight. we've talked about there are so many areas in corpus christi that are prone to flooding when we get a significant amount of rain. one of those areas is north beach, a small coastal area, and we did get a significant amount of rain causing some serious, serious flooding. many residents, visitors were trapped here in their homes and in hotels on north beach. the big reason it floods here in north beach is due to the underground drainage system. it's below sea level, which means it's filled with seawater, sand and debris causing the water to flow back out to the systems inlands, which means the downside to all this flooding here on the beach is that people are just stranded. they can't go anywhere. and long after this rain will pass, there will still be plenty of standing water and it will take days or maybe sometimes weeks just to recede. it's an issue to people who live here on north beach say they deal with every time.

kendis? >> that really, when you talk about that sort of problem, it is compounded with the covid-19 crisis that is taking place there in the greater corpus christi area. so we appreciate roland rodriguez from our powerhouse affiliate krs joining us. it's really important. and it's so important to pay attention to the forecast. 24 hours ago we were talking about it as a tropical storm, hours later it was a hurricane, and then it was coming ashore twice making landfall with 100-mile-an-hour sustained winds. treasury secretary steve mnuchin announced the next covid-19 relief proposal could be unveiled as soon as tomorrow. talks had stalled on key issues, including unemployment boosts set to expire next friday. shannon is following the

president over the weekend. shannon, what do we know about this proposal and does this new plan have the backing of the white house? >> well, for now it does. we'll see. the treasury secretary, as you mentioned, was on the hill saying the white house does back it. president trump hasn't weighed in yet. but a sticky point for republicans is the $600 a week unemployment benefit. this question of if or how much people should get going forward, because some republicans have said that amount of money disincentivizes people from going back to work because it could be as much as they were making at work for not working and staying at home. treasury secretary steve mnuchin, as i mentioned, was on the hill. have a listen to what he said about the deal republicans have come up with. >> we're not going to use taxpayer money to pay people more to stay home. so we're going to transition to a ui system that is based upon ra wage replacement. we've talked about a possible

70% wage replacement, and we're going through the mechanics of that. >> reporter: now, of course, it seems like the republicans have a deal, but the democrats haven't even weighed in yet, and there is still a lot of big issues like funding for schools and testing that still need to be resolved before anything can get passed that would get those checks going out to consumers again. >> and they don't have a lot of time, in fact. congress is back in session for another week and then they have another recess, so we'll see how it all plays out in the next couple days. nbc's shannon pettypiece joining us from new jersey. thank you. the democratic party has more of a look of what voters say there and how things will be different than four years ago. with 100 days left before the election and joe biden ahead by 15 points, just listen to donald trump very carefully and wait to hear him say something that you think appeals to a voter who hasn't already decided to vote for donald trump.

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politics average has joe biden leading president trump there by more than eight points. let's go to cori coffin who joins us in harrison township, michigan. cori, i'm curious because michigan is one of the states still dealing with the coronavirus crisis with 100 days to go. are they going to open elections and how will they deal with covid? >> reporter: they are making sure things are accessible because they are urging mail-in voters, but that's difficult to get out to communities. let's bring in democratic party lauren barnes here for the state of michigan. ms. barnes, we appreciate you being with us this morning. a very good morning to you, and let's start with that question from kendis. how are you guys going to make sure to get voters out, and are

you worried about that at all? >> we're encouraging voters to use the vote by mail option as the safest way to vote this election cycle, so we're having great conversations with voters about how to access that ballot and get it at home, vote, and return it to their clerk on time. >> reporter: what is the mood of democratic voters right now leading up to this election 100 days out? >> i will tell you, i've had people say things to me like i would crawl across glass to vote in this november election. folks are fired up and excited for change. they're very interested in making sure their voices are heard in november and they're going to vote in large numbers. we're seeing huge numbers of folks requesting ballots this early, and the numbers are larger than we've ever seen. the votes will be huge, they will be strong, and it's going to turn donald trump out in november. >> reporter: i think that might be one key difference than 2016, is you guys really did start

early to engage voters and get that passion there. how is joe biden going to avoid pitfalls from 2016? >> one of the things we've done so differently this time is we started working on this 2020 campaign in 2017. we built a ground game here in michigan, hiring organizers, mobilizing volunteers in 2017. that bore out in our terrific 2018 elections and we haven't stopped working since. we built something here for the vice president that is unprecedented, a large team on the ground already talking to voters about how important it is to vote in november, and the vice president has been here virtually, zoom calls and doing interviews with the press. folks are excited and he's been very active with michigan democrats and with the voters here in michigan. >> reporter: let's talk about the importance of biden's vp pick. how crucial is that going to be in the coming weeks as we hopefully learn his choice, and what do you think michigan voters want to see in his vp pick? >> we're all very excited to see

who this is going to be, who she is going to be. i think i can't emphasize enough how important it is to all of us that the vice president has committed to choosing a woman to stand beside him. i think the vice president will choose someone he can work with, someone he can partner with and someone who is ready to lead, and we're all very excited to get behind her and the vice president and go to victory in november. >> reporter: i know there is one person in this state who is obviously still on that list, but is there anyone in particular that you're backing or that you're hoping will be the contender? >> i will back with all of my energy whoever the vice president chooses. our terrific governor here in michigan is on that list, and we are so proud of the work she's done here. she's done a terrific job leading us through the crisis, and we're very proud of her and the work she's done. and the contrast, frankly, between the work she's done and dealing with covid, the work the president has not done.

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allen senior political analyst and alensia johnson and former aide to elizabeth warren's presidential campaign. jonathan, starting with you. your latest analysis piece you write that trump's convention no-brainer shows slow creep of self-interest. do you get the sense this abrupt turn in the treatment of the virus is all about political self-interest? >> yes. kendis, i think that number one obviously there is some degree of desire to protect the american public as he said. but we had a president who went out to do a rally in tulsa, oklahoma, tries to pack his fans into an arena just last month and didn't think public health dangers and risks precluded doing that. and now he's canceling his

convention in jacksonville. i think it dawned on him very slowly that the best thing for his politics was to get the public health aspect of this disease right, to get the american public safe and he's seen his poll numbers slide precipitously based on his handling of the coronavirus and handling of the protesters against racial injustice and the killing of george floyd. but particularly the combination of those two things together and with the pandemic, this is something where he absolutely understood, i think very late in the game, that he had to change not just his tone but his policy. we've seen a u-turn from him. >> which begs the question is it too late? alensia, to save the presidential campaign at this point, how do you expect americans will respond to this new tone? >> i think the american public

is seeing through what this is. it is until the republican controlled states that were dealing with the coronavirus that the president took on the position to wear masks and until, as jonathan said, he had a failed rally in tulsa where there were cases of coronavirus that came out of that rally. and so i do think 100 days out of the election, obviously, the trump campaign and the white house are looking at polling numbers and it is like he's taking a public posturing to say he has a handle on the unemployment rate but he's still golfing this weekend. he's been golfing in the midst of the pandemic and the american public is tired of him not taking this seriously and tired of the failed promises and that we don't have any leadership in the house with something as simple as wearing masks which we know will reduce the spread of the coronavirus. >> according to "the washington post," as pandemic limits scrutiny, republican leader fear that lesser-known democratic

candidates will steam roll to senate majority and goes on to say that pandemic, jonathan, that the campaign has limited state fairs and large church services and without those staples there are fewer chances for candidates to make mistakes. it goes both ways there. >> right. it's true there are fewer chances for newcomers to make mistakes but fewer chances for incumbents to make mistakes. at some level the incumbents don't have as many events to go to that they would normally go to. and at the same time they're handling out trillions of dollars in cash from washington d.c. we've seen this from mitch mcconnell already, they do ads on the ppp loans that they've given out and if the public believes the response from washington has been good, then the senators shouldn't fear at

all they'll lose majority. i think they fear their response has not been good. >> it is very difficult to make mistakes out there. alensia, really quickly, because you know the veep stakes is coming down to the wire and your former boss is on that list. is she going to get it? have you heard anything? >> all of that the biden campaign has promised is that it will be a woman and i can't wait to say madam vice president. and elizabeth warren has a strong track record on issues when it comes to women and race. i'm a little bit biased there because i've worked on there. but she's shown time and time again in the midst of the coronavirus we have to center people who have lost jobs and wages but also through racism within our medical institution and the reporting data and the people of color who have been impacted the most. so just like her and several of the other women contenders -- >> you have heard any

whispering, has she started packing her bag for delaware, has she been down there, anything? >> she's focused on ensuring that the positions of massachusetts are safe in the middle of the coronavirus and hopefully the senate will pass a bill this week to save the american public. >> thank you. good to see you. >> -- could run for office herself some day. >> i think so too. she's got it down pat. i like. thank you, guys. appreciate it. we're going to move on. we're following breaking news out of portland. the clashes that are taking place overnight, one of the largest crowds of protesters so far taking to the streets. and just ahead, ali develop she is with joy reid. andrew young and joy reid

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