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>> we have been watching and listening to the late congressman john lewis, that flag-draped casket making its way down 16th street. we saw it make it through the black lives matter plaza. the mayor of washington, you could not see this at home, but the mayor of washington, d.c., m muriel bowser presented a gift of some sort to members of the

congressman's family. you probably also saw the hearse approach 1600 pennsylvania avenue. we are told that president trump is there in the white house. no word on whether he heard the display outside. jonathan capehart is with us, pulitzer prize winning writer for "the washington post." jonathan, we're now told the hearse is on its way to the department of justice. it is not going to, we're told not going to stop at the doj, but drive past department of justice. excuse me, the african-american history museum before the department of justice. that's where the next stop will happen. congressman lewis reportedly raised the idea of such a museum

back in the '80s and was able to see it to its fruition. jonathan, as you watched that hearse make its way down 16th to the white house, what struck you? >> well, what was interesting, craig, is when it stopped on 16th street on black lives matter plaza, facing the white house. it was striking to see that there are barricades still in front of the white house, a vestige of the protests and clearing of lafayette square in the early days of the black lives matter protests. but also on that barricades were posters, pictures, signs and things about black lives matter, about victims of police violence, about equality and justice that line that

barricade. as the hearse made that left onto 8th street, north part of lafayette square, it was incredible. here you have in the laet congressman john lewis who put his life on the line for equality, justice, and fighting against the very things that people are back in the streets marching for, driving past signs that note that the movement that he was part of and that the march that he started has not yet been completed. i was reminded of a quote from ambassador andrew young when i interviewed him at sunnyland in 2019 about the assassination of dr. king and he said to me, quote, i remember he, meaning king, used to say that you know some of us are not going to make it to 40, he said, but if we can make it to 40, we can make it to

100. and reflecting on his own life, ambassador young said it became almost an obligation for me to keep doing whatever i can do as long as i can do it. at that point he was 87. he said i don't know if i can make it to 100 or not, but there are ideas that will keep me going. you can't waste the experience we've had. and that is exactly the same thing, the same fuel that drove the passion and life of congressman lewis. and i think that's why we have seen from the moment his body left in that hearse from joint base andrews, right through the streets of washington, americans stopping their cars, stopping what they're doing to pay tribute and honor to a man who is kpint kwint -- as they moved

to the journey it is making now, off in the corner, there are spectators with cameras up. a white woman had her fist raised in the air. how far america has come from the time john lewis marched across the edmund pettus bridge. >> amen. amen indeed. we just saw, jonathan, while you were speaking, we saw the motorcade move past the architectural marvel that's the african-american history museum there in washington, d.c. again, congressman lewis, instrumental in the early stages of making that museum happen. we are, of course, honoring the late john lewis, civil rights

icon. joined by another civil rights icon, rev. jesse jackson is with me now, former presidential candidate, of course, founder and president of rainbow push coalition. congressman lewis was one of re reverend jackson's close friends. you knew the congressman for decades. who was the john lewis that you knew? >> we met in the fall of 1960. in greenberg, february 1st, off nashville, the reverend jim lawson, i have known john as -- he took the most beatings.

john engaged everything. for example, said -- to test the village. the overriding challenge -- john

never stopped going. black and brown had to sit behind at the military bases. said i want my freedom now. he loved that. in december, could be immortalized on the bridge. the beating he took, it was a choice moment. a beating for all of us.

john didn't stop there. john lived to be 80. he never stopped. and then a step further, he was able to at the african-american museum, couldn't happen. always on the edge to make these things happen. last act was the voting rights act of 1965.

blacks can vote, 18-year-olds can vote. john lewis helped establish democracy around the world. i am sad that he's dead. we talked at least once a month all these years. and our movements get the credit it deserves. happy but sad at the same time. >> rev. jesse jackson. thank you, sir. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> take care of yourself.

thank you, sir. kelly o'donnell is back with me. she's covering congressman lewis on capitol hill for years. kelly, you saw the motorcade make its way past first the african-american history museum, then the department of justice and for folks that are watching at home or listening on sirius radio, you may wonder why someone who was monday doitorede fbi, why they would pause at the doj. representative lewis was instrumental getting the building named after robert f. kennedy. after that, we saw a stop at the

national council of negro women. kelly, the ultimate destination here at least in washington is the u.s. capitol. that's where the late congressman is going to lie in state until wednesday. there is a small ceremony of sorts planned this afternoon, kelly. what more do we know about that? >> it is interesting, craig, if i may make a comment about the african-american museum stop as the motorcade inches closer to the capitol here. when you talk about john lewis and his ability to exert patience and passion, he first talked about a museum to honor the legacy and history of african americans, but he first came to congress back in the '80s and he introduced that measure every new congress, so every two years, up until the point when george w. bush was in office, someone that john lewis had a tense relationship with at

times, he did not attend the inauguration for george w. bush, but george w. bush became an ally in that effort and signed it into law and then it was in 2016 where the museum was finally opened. so when you talk about strategic patience over the life of a career, that's something that john lewis exhibited. at the same time, as a young man when he spoke on the steps of the lincoln memorial and said we don't want to wait, we want to be free now, he could exert both ends of that, the passion to get things done as urgently as possible and stick to it-ness to come back on issues that matter and be able to see through the sweep of history the fruition of that in the case of the museum. here at the united states capitol for all of the majestic aspects of it, this is coming to the office for john lewis and part of life on capitol hill for members is the community of staff, the capitol police, the

people that work not only directly for a member of congress but for the institution. so you'll see a lot of that here in terms of how the people who are the community of the -- the senate leader, mitch mcconnell, james clyburn in democratic leadership, you spoke with him earlier, we will have the drama of seeing his flag-draped casket in the rotunda, a rare i honor. something carefully decided by leaders of the two chambers of the capitol. not every member of congress that passes away is afforded that honor. it is a testament to his life, service, and scope of impact. we see that with former presidents, some members of congress, and some figures from american life, like billy

graham, one example in recent years. rosa parks was also given the honor of being honored in states, she was not an office holder. for this day this is a chance to bring the intersection of the work life of john lewis, the ceremony of the capitol, and chance for the general public to also later in the day and tomorrow pass by to pay their respects. it is blistering hot in washington. yet there are people present at the black lives matter plaza. we expect that to happen at the capitol as the motorcade gets closer and closer to the destination. craig? >> kelly, stand by for me just a moment if you can. i want to bring in michael star hopkins for a moment. michael, democratic strategist of the john lewis bridge project

which is petitioning to rename the edmund pettus bridge in selma to the john lewis bridge. michael, you and i spoke a few weeks ago when your effort was in its infancy. first of all, how goes the effort. how is it coming? >> we're seeing overwhelming response. thank you for having me on. we reached over a half million signatures, we have endorsements like the great granddaughter who has come out and said she believes that name should come down. as i watch the hearse drive through d.c., i can't help but think of the night that started this, the night where the president and his forces shot tear gas at supporters.

when i went home that night and watched selma, i thought i couldn't imagine what john lewis felt that day, the fear he must have felt knowing that he was getting ready to be assaulted by law enforcement. now we watched the son of share croppers getting ready to be laid to rest in the row tun da of the capitol. if that's not the american spirit, if that doesn't complete the story, i don't know what does. >> what an arc indeed. michael, how important in this moment, how important is it that that bridge be renamed and why? >> it is so important. we are in a moment in our nation's history, a moment we are reconciling our horrific past with hope and promise of our future. caroline said it best in a press

release, we are not meant to cling to rel imcompetents of the past at the cost of hope for the future. he was a klu klux klan grand wizard. he was someone that went to work every day, working to ensure people like myself, like you, craig, like john lewis, were still in shackles, still in b bondage. by honoring someone that worked so hard to divide our country, we miss the moment. what we need to do is honor someone like john lewis, someone who dedicated their entire life to bringing the country together, a son of alabama, a son of america. the hero who we now look to. while he may be gone in body, his spirit lives on every day in us. it is why we need to not only rename the edmund pettus bridge, but we need to pass voting

rights legislation. >> michael, thank you. do keep us posted on the effort while we were having that conversation, we saw the motorcade pause at the u.s. supreme court. now they're on the way to the u.s. capitol. as it stopped at the court, i was reminded of an anecdote that i just heard the past few days. thurgood marshall was a young lawyer for the naacp, he had been introduced to a young man named john lewis who at that point had been arrested a few dozen times and beaten as well. and mr. marshall said to young john lewis, man, maybe you should get a supreme court case or something instead of going out and getting beaten all the time. reverend al sharpton was

president of the national action network, host of politics nation here on msnbc and someone whose perspective is always so valuable on days like this. reverend sharpton, how important was john lewis to you and your mission of political action an act vandalism over the decades. >> it was very important. john lewis and julian bond, jesse jackson were the young dr. king. i was about 15 years younger than them, so i kind of modeled, was mentored by jessie ae and t. he was a role model for activism. no one did it better. it brought my mind back when i heard you talking, drecraig. i was sitting in the courtroom when john lewis and reverend jackson and others in 2013,

doing oral arguments of the voting rights act when they took eventually after the oral arguments, they took section 15 out of the voting rights act, which is why we were marching august 28 around you need the john lewis voting rights act passed to put back in the map. i'm just leaving a funeral in brooklyn of a one-year-old boy, i did the eulogy of a one-year-old killed by a stray bullet. the last civil disobedience john lewis did, let a sit in in the well of the u.s. congress where his body is on the way now around gun control. so if we really want to memorialize john lewis, we do something about gun control, we do something about the voting rights act that's named after him. let's not be solemn today and absent tomorrow in things that john lewis would fight for. that's why i chose not to be in

washington, i chose to be where john lewis would want me to be, standing up for gun control at the funeral services of a one-year-old baby that had no one to stand up for him when a bullet hit him a few days ago in brooklyn, new york. rev, stand by for a moment. kelly o'donnell, we see the hearse and the motorcade pulling your way. once again, a number of folks lining the streets of the nation's capitol. some taking pictures, others applauding as well. there's the scene in front of the capitol. you can see the u.s. flag at half staff as the flag-draped casket of john lewis pulls up there. kelly o'donnell, what are you seeing? >> it is an emotional moment, craig, when we have been watching this procession, now to

see through the window of the hearse, i can see the flag-draped casket as it is passing by where i'm standing right now and it is a moment. it is truly a moment where you pause and realize the significance of ceremony and ritual when we honor lives, it stands for something that meets american values and the faith of john lewis was tested so many times. john lewis being here at the capitol again is a homecoming, it is a chance for members of both parties with whom he had relationships, there were certainly many people that disagreed with him politically, but were eager to be in a photo with him or to be on a trip or an official event with him, to be part of the john lewis story. you saw that many times over the years. there are people who were close to john lewis that would say that never bothered him to be

the subject of photos and in some ways maybe even used politically by others in congress who didn't share all of his views because he believed in that basically block approach of trying to push things forward piece by piece. as we talk about so many of his qualities, he was a partisan democrat. he was in the arena, in the fight. he fought hard for democratic values and bills and candidates. he was often a prodigious fundraiser. those are the mechanics of life in politics. he was very much engaged with that. with his passing, we speak of the larger impact of what he stood for, the kinds of things he fought for, both in his life as a civilian and in public life and certainly now the legacy of john lewis will stand for those things, fighting discrimination, trying to expand access to

voting, concerns about gun violence. when barack obama was inaugurated, among those i was anxious to speak to was john lewis. he was part of the arc of the travel of civil rights in our country and as you know, barack obama signed a photo for him that said because of you, john. and on that day, john lewis was the first person speaking to me who used president barack obama in a sentence. part of that time we had been saying president-elect or candidate or senator. so i have a vivid memory of the moment of hearing him talk about what it meant to him. it was poignant. this is a time his family is here, his staff, his colleagues, and the ceremony of capitol hill will take place here. it will be an opportunity for the public as well to honor the memory and show their respects,

even in this age of the coronavirus which is clearly effecting ceremonies. there's a stateliness to this day that's unmistakable. craig? >> kelly o'donnell, don't go far. as we prepare to watch, another honor guard removed that flag-draped casket from the hearse to take it up the steps of the u.s. capitol where john lewis will lie in state until wednesday. about an hour and some change ago we saw a separate honor guard remove that same casket from the air force plane that brought the late congressman from alabama where he crossed

the edmund pettus bridge for the last time on sunday. this time in selma, state patrolmen, they suited. that was not the case 55 years ago. flz. z. on the left side of the screen, you probably see some folks that are making their way to the capitol. those are family members and friends of the late congressman who are making their way to the rotunda. there will be a formal ceremony as kelly o'donnell mentioned, speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. we'll hear from a gentleman that was with us a few moments ago,

congressman jim clyburn will offer some words as well. reverend sharpton is still with me. rev, one of the things that still is not lost on me, it is this movement and you are obviously part of it yourself. rev. jesse jackson was with us a few minutes ago. representative clyburn as well a few minutes ago. this idea that all of you back in the '60s, you're a little younger than some of them, but this idea that all of you knew each other and all of you were working together towards this common cause. and decades later, most of you are still feeling close to each

other. >> the freedom fighters, it is not a career move, it is something that hurts your advancing in other careers. you do it because you believe in it. that's why you can't retire because retired or what, you can't retire your beliefs. there are those older than me as you said, talking john lewis and jesse and them were older, then my age and those much younger. but we all kind of get together because we all understand each other, our families had to make the same sacrifice. you kind of know what it is to go through this. john lewis embodied that. never looked at him even in private conversations without thinking about on his body, the body now brought up the capitol

steps are the scars of the movement. we were able to vote because he and josea williams and others were beat on that bridge. a lot of people take that for granted. he bears that on his body. the other thing i think is that we have to give them credit for victory. john lewis comes to the capitol a victim. when he started as the boy, he couldn't vote, he had no rights to public adccommodations. he comes back saluted. they won that round of fighting with jim crow, now for those of us mentored by them and that we are mentoring to win the next battles, they have nothing to hang their head in shame about. they brought america into a new day and we have to now fight to make sure that america doesn't go back to day before yesterday. make america great again, go back to prejohn lewis. we can't let that happen.

>> reverend al sharpton, thank you for your time. thank you as always for your perspective as well. be safe. we continue to watch and wait for that casket of the late congressman. wait for that casket to be hoisted from the hearse and hauled up the steps of the u.s. capitol. the honor guard is standing by. family and friends are taking their place in the rotunda. this will be a bipartisan ceremony once it gets started inside, the rotunda family greeted by the deputy sergeant-at-arms. speaker of the house and senate majority leader, mitch

mcconnell, congressional leadership are being escorted in as well for the ceremony to begin. there will be an invocation. remarks by the senate majority leader, remarks by the speaker of the house. we heard "amazing grace" a few minutes ago as the motorcade made it through the black lives matter plaza. we'll hear that again when the ceremony starts. representative maxine waters in position there. you saw her and other lawmakers taking their seats inside the rotunda. we also saw what presumably will be -- yes, that's where his body will lie in state until wednesday.

lawmakers, looks like all of them are donning the face coverings. we have perhaps become a bit decent advertised that most of us are walking around in masks. lawmakers are doing the same as they prepare to say good-bye to julian assange. again, it is tricky with everyone wearing a mask. members f the congressional black caucus gathered a short time ago we're told. i believe i saw congresswoman presley there as well. heather mcgee, cochair of color of change and advocate for economic justice, voting rights. she's also an msnbc political

analyst. and i will apologize in advance if i have to cut you off as we wait for the flag cla-draped ca to be taken from the hearse. as an advocate for ending inequality in this country, your thoughts in this moment as you see the casket of john lewis brought to the capitol this afternoon. >> i do believe my grandchildren will know john lewis as an american founding father. who better to be remembered as such than the man who gave his blood to stand up to tyranny, to create a democracy where all men were truly created equal. he went on like washington and adams to lead and serve. for john lewis, he was serving a government that was made truly more representative by his sacrifice, up until the day he died with every moral stance he

took as a member of congress, that government was made more just by his service and his deeds. he's truly going to be remembered as a new american founding father for this young country that is still on its way to becoming a more perfect union. >> you know, heather, one of the things that's always struck me about john lewis is he was only 25 when he took that beating for all of us on that bridge in selma. john lewis never sold out. he never took that big job in the private sector and cashed out. john lewis was on the frontlines from the time he was 25. i mean, it really is for a lot of folks difficult to get your head around someone devoting

literally their entire life to the cause of social justice. >> that's right. so many of us that had that calling, it doesn't end, the tough decisions. he understood clearly the dangers of this era. right now, we have republicans and democrats paying tribute to him and that's wonderful because he is going to be remembered as an american founding father, so he does transcend partisan politics. but he also -- when he decided not to attend the inauguration of donald trump, i think he did that because he knew the stakes. he was warning us of the dangers of the administration and of this moment. he knew the sting of tear gas and a police baton. he saw those same scenes in this

country under this administration. i believe we have to listen when will our elders and now ancestors like john lewis speak toys and tell us what the dangers are, what the stakes are. that's one of the reasons i'm glad the voting rights enhancement act has been renamed for him. we have to take the statues down, we also have to rewrite the statutes. doing that in his honor is exactly the kind of tribute he would have enjoyed. >> heather, do stand by if you can. again, you see, i think we can pull that shot back up, lawmakers are taking seats in the rotunda. masks up. they appear to be social distancing as well. we've seen a number of lawmakers

take their seats, waiting for members of the family and some friends as well, is our understanding. again, you see lawmakers six feet apart there in the rotunda as we wait for the honor guard to remove the casket from the hearse and take it up the steps. jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post" is still with me. just a few moments ago, jonathan, we were talking to michael starr hopkins about the efforts to rename the bridge in selma, the edmund pettus bridge, renaming it the john lewis bridge. is that a foregone conclusion, is that something that's inevitable? >> craig, it should be. there's public sentiment behind it, history demands it, given the name on the bridge now. and history demands it because of the sacrifice of the man for

whom it would be renamed. at one point, craig, there was agitation on the ground in alabama from some who wondered why should it be named for him and not all of the people that took part that day march 7th, 1965, and ensuing days after that, the marches from selma to montgomery to reflect the collective sacrifices that were made on behalf of winning the voting rights act. i talked to one of those people, a woman by the name of cheyenne webb. some may know her name, most of you don't. she was on march 7th, 1965, the youngest person to march that day that became known as bloody sunday. i talked to her on the phone just after congressman lewis passed away, i asked her the

question. where are you on this? she said initially she wanted it to be a collective renaming, but after the passing of congressman lewis, absolutely it should be renamed for congressman lewis. the john robert lewis memorial bridge, i am making that name up, but it should be named for him. cheyenne webb, her story is famous for those that know it. when the tear gas was blowing, and mounted police were rioting, billy clubs were swinging, people were running back across the edmund pettus bridge and i believe it was josea williams scooped her up, ran with her across the bridge. she famously said to him, put me down, i can run faster all by myself. she's still alive. she's in her late 60s. i love bringing her up and mentioning that she's still alive to remind people that

history isn't history. that we still have people that were around, who can tell the stories, who are carrying the flame and torch that was doused by the passing of congressman lewis, but still burns inside them, and to remind young people that struggles they're dealing with now and that they're in the streets marching for in terms of rights and against in terms of inequality and injustice, that there are people that went through it before them and that there's a direct line from the edmund pettus bridge to black lives matter plaza in washington, d.c. the fight is continuous and the fight in both generations is strong. as congressman lewis said to me in my final interview with him, and as i mentioned before, you have to give until you can give no more. >> living history. the best kind of history.

mr. capehart. again in a few moments, we'll see the flag-draped casket brought into the capitol. this will be the last time congressman lewis will enter the capitol, enter the rotunda. and this rotunda where the ceremony is set to take place, professor wiley, it is significant not just because it is the capitol rotunda, in 1965, president johnson when he came to the hill to sign the voting rights act, enacted and passed by the house and senate a few days before, the signing took place in a ceremonial room there in the capitol but before that, president lyndon johnson, he gave a speech in the rotunda and among those in the room for that speech, dr. martin luther king

jr. and a young man named john lewis. there in 1965, here to lie in state in 2020. it is quite remarkable to think about how much history john lewis was a part of over the course of his 80 years on this earth. >> so much history that's so recent. i think we need to remember how recent that was. remember that lbj, lyndon baines johnson, understood when he signed the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965, he made a comment that he w he was ceding the south to the republican party.

i say that because as we talk about john lewis' continuing fight until his last days for voting rights, one of the things we saw republicans shift from was in 2006 bipartisan support for reauthorization the voting rights act of 1965. but after 2006, by december of 2019, we saw the republicans stand up to oppose it, including doug collins who said as a republican that it was a political weapon, that somehow the right of black, latino, native americans to have their rights without barriers to the ballot box. democracy can only be a tool to advance problem solving,

selecting leaders that do that. that's what john lewis was in the room for. that's what lyndon baines johnson was willing to stand up for. and that's the continuing fight that we still have that john lewis was fighting literally until the day he died. >> as we continue to watch and wait for the ceremony to begin here, a bit of color from inside the rotunda. we continue to see some lawmakers here. pretty much all of them have taken a place. senator dick durbin there. house and senate members have been streaming in for the last 20, 30 minutes or so. you probably notice that a few of them are wearing masks with the words good trouble written in white. other members wearing masks that

say vote. we're told by folks there inside the rotunda, lawmakers have been mingling, had been mingling for roughly 20 minutes or so. some air hugs, elbow bumps, everyone reportedly masked so far. the rotunda has fallen quiet which would lead everyone to believe that this is a ceremony that is about to get under way. and again, once it gets under way, we're told it should last roughly an hour or so. after the ceremony, congressman lewis will lie in state in the rotunda until wednesday when his body will be flown back to atlanta, georgia where he will

be remembered in the historic ebenezer baptist church on thursday. heather mcgee is still with me. h heather, an msnbc contributor. one of the things that fascinates me about scenes like this, you have republican and democratic lawmakers assembled in one place, to see the conversations happening. no conversations here because of the pandemic, because of the social distancing. and because of the solemnity of the occasion as well, heather. >> john lewis as the memories and recollections are pouring

out right now will be remembered and to everyone in the chamber today i'm sure has a personal memory of just how greatly his inner light shined. he was a funny, humble, affable, morally sharp and clear human being. i think he understood that you have to build relationships in order to build power. so he had really unlikely relationships with people that he didn't agree with, and he would fight them tooth and nail to keep that arc moving towards justice, but he also was someone that everyone wanted to be around. i think that kind of power gave him an ability to stay in this veit for so long. he was the quintessential happy

warrior. i remember sights of him crowd surfing on the colbert show. he just loved human beings. he trusted human beings. he had a fundamental love of his fellow, you know, human being that justhim, and anybody who was ever in his presence, as i had the good fortune to be at some point, had that. and you contrast that, obviously, with the meanness of our public policy, with the way that protesters who are trying to make good trouble are being attacked today, and it's very clear that he wanted to just show by example how you should treat your fellow human being. >> we were talking a few moments ago about the fact that the late congressman boycotted the inauguration of the current president. but john lewis also boycotted the inauguration of george w.

bush as well. but to your point about building relationships and forging relationships, despite that, it was president george w. bush and barack obama who walked across that bridge on the 50th anniversary with john lewis. >> that's right. and one of the first things that john lewis did when he got into congress in 1988 was to introduce a bill to create what would become the african-american history and culture museum on the mall, the smithsonian. and it ended up being george w. bush who signed that into law when the democratic congress would eventually pass it after it was blocked for over 15 years by jesse helms. so there are so many sort of quiet monuments to john lewis' service and his vision and his leadership all over the country. he was a huge proponent of the idea of a truth and

reconciliation process in this country. there are still bills in congress that bear his support, to try to do the unfinished work of making this country live up to its ideals. remembering its history, telling the truth, and marching forward for justice.

>> kelly o'donnell is with me. kelly o., can you hear me? >> i do hear you, craig. this is that moment -- yes. >> kelly, i'm not sure what your vantage point is, but it looks like someone may have just either passed out or fallen there at the foot of the capitol. can you see that at all, or is that -- >> i see activity. we are off to the side a bit. so i can't see it directly. >> okay. >> so i can't add to that at the moment, but i would certainly say if there is someone who might have been overcome by heat, that would be an understandable thing. also, there are lots of medical personnel and u.s. capitol police who are here who can certainly address any situation

like that. i don't want to get ahead of ourselves until we know what the particular status is. if that is the case, that would explain what has been an unexpectedly long delay. we would anticipate that the honor guard would be escorting the casket up the stairs of the u.s. capitol soon. and the steps of the capitol can be quite treacherous. they are marble and uneven, and i always marvel at how the members of the military who serve as the honor guard, it does appear now that there was a navy sailor in his whites who got up. so we're just going to have to hope we can get additional details, yes. >> yeah. >> so is that a member of the actual casket honor guard, i'm not certain. but that work is actually quite

difficult. anyone who has ever been a pallbearer knows it's a daunting task. and to do it with the precision of the military is challenging, and so as we see them in the minutes ahead go up the stairs, you'll have an appreciation for how challenge that can be. it does appear there is a full honor guard moving now toward the casket, so perhaps the other person in uniform was not a member of that. i'll go back to you, craig, since this will be a poignant moment. >> let's listen in.

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>> forward march.