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horse-drawn carriage taking lewis over the infamous edmund pettus bridge in selma, the same bridge where he was beaten within an inch of his life as he fought for civil and voting rights. meanwhile, there's a push to rename that bridge after lewis himself. and that is the final thing we see on tonight's broadcast. "the reidout" starts now. ♪ ♪ indeed the last few days have been momentous in the life of this country. on saturday congressman john lewis began his final journey home starting with one last trip over the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama. today, lewis' body has arrived in washington in what has become a tour of his incredible life, in the newly named black lives matter plaza where lewis made
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one of his final public appearances last month. right now his body lies in state in the capitol rotunda, an honor only two other african-americans have ever received. only parks and lewis have lain in the capitol rotunda. while the country mourns the loss of a civil rights icon, the president of the united states, donald trump, who told reporters he would not be paying his respects, spent his weekend at his bedminster country club working on his golf game and grinning for a picture with former green bay packers quarterback brett favre. in addition too finally getting photographed with someone famous, since kanye, trump announced he would no longer travel to new york next month to throw the first pitch at the yankees first game because of coronavirus. uh-huh. it was an abrupt thing for a man
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who has refused to take any responsibility for the response to the coronavirus. it's hard to imagine that it was now the 150,000 americans who have died because of the coronavirus. that death toll has been nurnginurnsurging for months. none of that is new. what has changed according to the white house officials who spoke to "the washington post" is that senior advisers began presenting trump with maps and data showing spikes in coronavirus cases among our people in republican states. they also shared projections predicting that virus surges could soon hit politically important states in the midwest including michigan, minnesota, and wisconsin. our people, that is the distinction in donald trump and his administration's mind between those worth saving and those who trump needn' t be
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bothered by. trump's lock on the republican party has been so complete that he convinced multiple republican governors strewn across the south and the west to follow him down the path of surrender to this pandemic, ignoring the science and re-opening their states too early, and their people are now bearing the consequences. take florida's governor, ron desantis, who was quick to declare victory in april. with the virus spreading uncontrolled, florida's health officials think desantis has joined the president rather than formulate a plan to bring it under control. i'm joined by mayor carlos hernandez of hialeah, florida, and the director of harvard global health institute. thank you all for being here. i want to go to you first, mayor hernandez. i used to live in hialeah. so i know that area very well.
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tell us about what is happening there, and what kind of situation is happening in hialeah right now regarding the virus? >> we were one of the first cities to really be affected at the beginning of the virus. and, again, we help continue to be one of the biggest cities affected by the virus from the beginning. that's been my issue with the governor of florida from the beginning, we were asking for help for testing. it took months before we had a testing site. and after that, we had people that were unemployed trying to get in through the state unemployment benefits computer. they could not get through. we had to start printing the applications so they could at least send them out.
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and i have criticized the governor from being behind and not in front of this. and we are now behind and we find ourselves in a serious situation. we're the second largest city in miami-dade county. we are behind as a state. again, whatever the philosophy of the governor, i don't know. this is about helping our people. we need help right now. >> you say our people. that is the thing that sort of struck me about how donald trump talked about the virus. well, now it's hitting our people. that area, the miami lakes/hialeah area, this is a middle class working-class community. it's a vibrant community. and when you hear the president of the united states delineate between our people and not our people. when you see the governor following him, what fr he says, not what the scientist says but what trump says, how does that make feel?
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we don't have time for theory, we have to work with what we have on the ground. and again this is getting worse day in and day out. this is not a republican issue. this is not a democrat issue. we've had a hard time working united at a state level, at a county level, at a city level. and that's created a lot of confusion in our community. this is not going to go away and we need help. we need federal help and we need state help to fight this thing. we're really, really behind right now here in the state of florida. >> you know, and dr. jha, i want to play for you, this pandemic, you know, it isn't obviously just a united states problem, it's all over the world. but other countries have tried to come at it, at least the countries who have tried to handle it with a national response that is equal to the horror and the death that this virus causes. donald trump is much more
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concerned with making sure that these states reopen their economies and sort of create this appearance of normalcy rather than fighting the virus. here he is. and this was just today talking about what he thinks governors -- and he names specific states including florida, what he thinks they should be doing. take a listen, please. >> over the weekend, cases in florida, texas, and arizona held steady and are now heading down. in arizona they're heading very substantially down and rapidly. these states are not out of the woods but rigorous compliance with guidelines should allow them to turn the corner very, very quickly. i really do believe a lot of the governors should be opening up states that they're not opening. and we'll see what happens with them. >> that is not true. these numbers are not heading down, they're heading up. donald trump's own national security adviser robert o'brien has now tested positive with the virus. he's not in one of those three states, but when you hear that,
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does that make any sense to you, dr. jha, as a clinician, to hear the president saying these states this open their states up? >> this has been a confusion out of the white house from the beginning. their idea that we should be opening things up when things are not safe because we're focused on the economy. and my argument has been if you care about the economy, suppress the virus. if you can suppress the virus, we can open up. florida, texas, arizona, are in no shape to be opening up right now. they need to be closing down further right now. they are among the hottest of the hot spots in the world. florida remains the epicenter of arguably of the entire global outbreak. so the idea that they should even be thinking about opening up at this moment just strikes me as really harmful, not just harmful for the lives and well-being of the people of florida but harmful for the economy of florida. it's not going to work. >> yeah. what about this talk of this
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alleged october surprise that they think there's going to be a vaccine in october or the announcement of a vaccine. does that even sound realistic to you? i understand that vaccines take years to develop. >> vaccines do take years. thankfully on this one we're moving very quickly and aggressively. but there aren't corners to be cut. we've got to study the vaccine in enough people, whichever vaccine it is, in enough people for long enough time to make sure that the vaccine actually works and that the vaccine is safe. and so i personally can't wrap my brain around how we could possibly have a vaccine that would be ready for fda approval by october. but things are moving quickly. and i'm hoping that maybe by late november or december, we might have a shot. we'll just have to see what the data says. but we can't cut the corners on the data itself. >> yeah. i know in this country that has happened before with very bad effects. thank you, mayor, for being
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here. thank you so much for taking some time. and dr. jha, thank you. joining me now is congressman hakeem jeffries of new york. combine the fact that donald trump is completely confused, there's complete confusion in the message coming out of the white house. the other piece of confusion that i see, you know, respectfully is out of what's happening in congress right now. you have mitch mcconnell wearing a mask in a video. but as far as we can tell, they have not agreed on even what would be in their version of a bill and they're rejecting the democrats' bill to try to alleviate the economic torture on americans right now. what is going on up there? >> first of all, good evening, joy. it's great to be on and congratulations on your show. >> thank you. >> we all are looking forward to great things that will come from you during the 7:00 hour. mitch mcconnell's response is consistent with president
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trump's response to the coronavirus pandemic. he's been stumbling, fumbling, and bumbling. and that is what thez done from the very beginning. we have a situation right now where you have more than 150,000 americans who have died, more than 4 million americans have been infected, more than 5 million americans have lost their employer-based health care. more than 100,000 small businesses have permanently closed. and more than 50 million americans are newly unemployed. we passed a heroes act, a comprehensive response to the covid-19 pandemic two and a half months ago. and yet mitch mcconnell and the senate republicans along with donald trump have not seen fit to act. it is legislative malpractice. and so, joy, what you're seeing in terms of the confusion that seems to be coming from the senate side of the capitol on 1600 pennsylvania avenue has been their playbook for the last several months.
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they have failed the american people. >> and maybe he didn't get the message that, quote, unquote, our people are being affected now. apparently that's what got to donald trump. when you hear that, what do you think donald trump means by that when he says now it's affecting our people, at least his people, the people around him, it's time to act. >> the most significant lie of the 20,000 that donald trump has told over the last three and a half years is that he cares about the american people. he does not. he cares about himself. and in that context, his only real concern appears to be electoral survival. it's no surprise to me that what may have gotten donald trump's attention is the fact that his campaign appears to be going down in flames, in part, because who he views as his people are turning against him because of the failed leadership coming out of the oval office. now, we are still going to try
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to find common ground, because that is what the circumstances require. but we need a robust, meaningful, transformative intervention. we need $875 million for states and localities. we need another round of direct stimulus payments. we need to extend unemployment insurance emergency benefits which are scheduled to expire on friday. we need to provide real assistance to renters and homeowners who are struggling to pay the rent and the mortgage. we should settle for nothing less than that. mitch mcconnell should stop nickel and dimeing the american people. >> and speaking of nickel and diming the american people, one of the things senate republicans want to do is to cut down that $600 extra jobless benefit by two-thirds by making it only $200. that's the plan that they unveiled today. have any of your colleagues on the other side of the aisle explained what is their objection to giving average americans a mere $600?
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it's not like the trillions of dollars that they gave to, you know, the airline industry and to individual restaurants or giant restaurant chains got tens of millions of dollars. why are they so against the average person getting just $600 extra in unemployment benefits? >> it's a great question. they haven't explained it because they have no good explanation. but what it illustrates is that there's a clear difference between what we're about as house democrats and senate democrats, which is fighting for the people, and what they're about, which is fighting for the privileged few. they passed a gone tax scam where 83% of the benefits went to the wealthiest 1%. they had no problems doing that and drown us in about $2 trillion in debt. now they want to nickel-and-dime the american people for $600 per week in engineer benefits when we're in the midst of a deep recession heading possibly toward a depression. it's shameless and we are going to hold the line on behalf of
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the american people. >> i have to play this piece of audio for you. donald trump was finally asked about these russian bounties. he spoke to vladimir putin. we know that he had one of those conversations with his favorite leader. and here he was being asked about whether or not he brought up the issue with russia offering bounties for our troops. >> you did talk with russian president vladimir putin. and i wanted to ask if you did bring up the reports of russia having bounties on our soldiers. >> we don't talk about what we discussed. but we had plenty of discussion. and i think it was very productive. please? >> in your view, do you trust donald trump with our national security? we have an election coming up that russia is already trying to interfere in. do you trust this man with america's natural security? >> the american people should decide an american election. donald trump has solicited foreign interference in our election multiple times. he did it with russia.
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he did it with china. he did it with ukraine. and so, again, his primary focus is his own personal, political, and financial interests. there's no evidence or reason to believe that he will ever lift up the best interests of the american people in national security or otherwise, and that is quite unfortunate. >> congressman hakeem jeffries, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you, joy. coming up next on "the reidout," john lewis who fought and bled for racial justice is honored at the capitol. stacey abrams joins me on that. the ongoing official brutality in portland, and on whether democrats can win georgia in november. plus, bill nye, the science guy on the covid and climate change deniers are. they the same people? and in the midst of a pandemic and economic crisis, the white house rose garden, well, it's getting a fancy makeover. that's not even the craziest
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you must find a way to get in the way. you must find a way to get in trouble, good trouble, necessary trouble. [ applause ] >> his words speak for themselves, an extraordinary and historic day at the u.s. capitol as lawmakers and the public pay their final respects to the great john lewis. who this evening is lying in state inside the capitol, a profound honor that only three african-americans have received in this country's history. joe biden paid his respects to congressman lewis this evening, while donald trump told reporters today that he would not be going. the tributes to the conscience of the congress come on the heels of protests in portland that continued over the weekend
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and spread to other cities in solidarity and defiance of trump's threats to deploy more federal agents. meanwhile today, the house of representatives bestowed another honor on the late civil rights icon, approving a proposal to rename a bill to restore a key provision of the voting rights act in honor of john r. lewis. and joining me now is stacey abrams, founder of fair fight action and the author of "our time is now: power, purpose, and the fight for a fair america." and, stacey, it's always great to talk with you. i want to start with you talking about these protests. john lewis has been called by many the original black lives matter activist. his last official sort of appearance as a congressman before his passing was on black lives matter plaza. and so he connected himself with this movement. what do you make of the protests that are going out there? do you think so far they've been efficacious? what do you think they've gained? >> well, first of all, congratulations on this incredible show. thank you for having me.
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i began thinking about 1992 when the rodney king protests flared into the public eye. but at this point in the process, they had disappeared. there were rumblings, but there was no consistent movement. and so i think the efficacy is first judged by the consistency and the sustainability of this righteous indignation that is refusing to be silenced. but i think we will know the truth of how effective it is when we watch state legislators, city council members and congress take the actions they need to take and when we watch voters go to the polls and complete the census and do the work necessary to actually make these laws possible, real, and sustainable. >> yeah, amen. please fill out your census forms, y'all. what do you make of it when donald trump calls the people who are protesting anarchists who hate our country? >> well, i begin with the fact that this is a coward who has refused to actually engage in thoughtful conversation. he is a man of deep incompetence
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who would rather put the country at risk than admit that he doesn't know enough to lead without scientists giving him the information, which is what good leaders do. they admit that they need help. but more than anything, i think he misunderstands the nature of language. and this is a man who uses words that he's heard or gathered from other places and tries to twist them into meaning. but essentially what he is saying is that americans who are patriots are calling on their country to do right and that is exactly what we do. that is who we are and that is who we should be. >> you know, congressman leader jim clyburn was on this weekend. he announced the fact that he was introducing a bill that would rename the bill that would restore the voting rights act in honor of john lewis. that has passed in the house now. the process of that is going on right now. we don't know what'll happen in the senate. but voting rights are so pivotal to everything that you do and what fair fight action is all about.
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georgia, there is a "new york times" investigation that it called the anatomy of an election meltdown in georgia. this was the election, your election, that you were running for governor. the fall to the state's bulky election system remain largely unresolved. it is becoming increasingly clear that what happened in june was a collective collapse. do you trust brian kemp and the apparatus around him to run a free and fair election in november in georgia? >> no. but that's why we created fair fight. because it's not just up to them. it's up to the people to demand an election that actually meets the standards of the constitution, both the georgia constitution and the u.s. constitution. that's why fair fight action has sued the state. but what's even more important is the national attention on what we have been hitting the drum beat about since november of 2018. and what's happening in georgia is happening around the country. fair fight 2020 exists because
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we know that the debacle we witnessed in georgia sort of overshadowed the fact that nevada, the republican secretary of state shut down all but one precinct per county. we know around the country there are going to be challenges in november, and we need everyone to understand that voter suppression is real, it is thriving, and it is the political theory of the case that republicans intend to use. they intend to cheat by using voter suppression to shut down the voices of americans in a moment where our voices have never been more critical. >> you know, and in georgia, there's more at stake obviously than the white house. you have two, not one but two senate seats that are up. so there are three times the number of reasons for republicans to do everything they can to ensure that they prevail. and so i guess the question would be, people ask me this all
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the time, what can individuals do to best ensure that their votes are counted if they are determined to try and vote in november? >> number one, understand what voter suppression is. it's when they try to block you from staying on the rolls or getting registered, block you from casting your ballot or block you from getting that ballot counted. those are basically the parameters. if you live in a state with vote by mail, vote by mail. but vote early. as soon as you're allowed to, cast that ballot. number two, hold your local officials accountable for keeping precincts open. polling places need to be available. covid is not an excuse to shut down polling places. and at this point we have had eight months of knowing that we need to do something. we've had seven months of primaries. we need people to demand that not only are the polling places open but they start recruiting staff that will be willing to work in november. and, third, make certain you don't vote alone, whether you vote by mail or you have to go vote in person, ensure that
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someone goes with you, that you're filling out your ballots together on the phone, that you're texting when you get it done. but we've got to vote like our lives depend on it. and i will add this last plug about the census. we continue to fight for 2020 to relitigate the 2016 election. but we have to remember that the 2010 election is going on right now as well. you have to vote all the way down the ballot. in georgia, we cannot only give 16 electoral votes to joe biden. we can flip two senate seats. but we can also flip the georgia house of representatives. and in state after state that's going to be critical to control redistricting in 2021. if we want the next decade to be a decade of recovery, a decade of renewal and a decade of process, we have to ensure that we complete the census. they are doing their best to weaponize the census against communities of color. we need a fair count as well as the fair fight. >> yeah. what i call an election is a national election plus a census
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year. everything changes, 2010, think about that. you talked about 1992 and rodney king that happened in 1992. i happen to know one year earlier, you were graduating from high school. i was graduating from college, just to give everybody a sense of our decades. and that was the year in which you went to the governor's mansion and were turned away and were told you were not supposed to be there, which everyone who reads your book, know sparked your passion for your politics and your determination to move into that governor's mansion, which could still happen. there are lots of elections ahead. but because you are a daughter of the south with roots in two southern states, i have to ask you about this tom cotton comment. tom cotton said of slavery and in his opposition to the 1619 project, he doesn't want it taught in schools. he called slavery a necessary evil on the road to building this great country of america. this is what he said. he said we have to study the history of slavery and its role
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and impact on the development of our country because otherwise we can't understand our country. as the founding fathers said, it was the necessary evil upon which the union was built, but the union was built in a way to put slavery on the course to its ultimate stichti ultimate extinction. there was a post that said that cotton's only family, his ancestor owned slaves, and here is tom cotton explaining his comments. he was on fox explaining them. take a listen. >> what i said is that many founders believed that only with the union and the constitution could we put slavery on the path to its ultimate extinction. that's exactly what lincoln said. of course, slavery is an evil institution in all its forms at all times. in america's past or around the world today. >> what do you make of his comments and his explanation? >> first of all, there is no such thing as a necessary evil.
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evil is evil, and slavery is one of the ultimate evils. and i think having this conversation on the day when john lewis lays in state is a critical moment of reckoning. if tom cotton is sincere in his desire to understand history, then he should be celebrating the 1619 project. he should be celebrating the voting rights act renewal. he should be celebrating black lives matter. because the continuity of evil in our country has led us to this moment. we can only extinguish evil by acknowledging that it exists and doing everything in our power to defeat it, not to celebrate it, not to excuse it, and certainly not to use it as a way to justify the racism that runs through the party that is lifting up tom cotton and his language as something that's legitimate as part of the argument about what our children should learn about this country. >> yep. and i have to let you go and i am out of time. i would be remiss and i would
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get a lot of texts if i didn't ask you. there are a lot of people who believe that a black woman on the ticket with joe biden would actually help him to carry a state like georgia. do you believe that, and are you somebody who, do you know if you're still under consideration to potentially be that vp candidate? >> joe biden is going to pick the right person to win this nation and to lead this country. and he knows the job better than anybody else. i believe he's going to pick the right person. i have always said that diversity should be more than just name. and this is an opportunity to expand the diversity and change what the face of leadership looks like in america. but i know joe biden's going to make the right choice and that he will lead and take no one for granted. as for the vetting process, i direct all questions about vetting to the biden campaign. >> all right. well, a very politic answer. but we're going to keep an eye on you, stacey abrams. because i have a feeling you're not done yet when it comes to running for office. thank you for being here. and still ahead, trump and his allies have turned the
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culture war over the coronavirus outbreak in america. in arizona, one woman intentionally destroyed a mask display at target when she was later arrested she claimed to be the qanon spokesperson for the white house. most recently, a restaurant employee in washington, d.c. have been assaulted for enforcing mask rules. then, there was this unbelievable incident this weekend on the day that minnesota's mask mandate went into effect, a couple visited a local walmart chose to wear masks emblazened with nazi swastikas. the man who was wearing a trump t-shirt claimed we're living under a socialist state. the couple were warned that they would be arrested if they returned. just to be clear, masks are not a slippery slope to dictatorship. they are designed to keep you from catching or spreading coronavirus. but what is effectively a universal scientific consensus. a recent "associated press" poll found that 89% of democrats
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support wearing mass in public spaces, while just 58% of republicans do. i wonder why. could it be because their party's leader? bill nye the science guy joins me after the break. the break granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ to my retirement days than i'i am my college days. i just want to know, am i gonna be okay?
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and your second question was? i couldn't heard you. can you take it off because i cannot hear you. >> donald trump made clear long ago that he views masks as being politically correct designed to make him look bad and hurt his re-election. yet, he issued a half-hearted endorsement last week on twitter as part of what "new york times" calls trump's nakedly political pivot on coronavirus. i'm joined now by bill nye the
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science guy, host of "the science huls" podcast. there are a couple kinds of denialisms that are out there. you've got anti-vaxxerism or people think vaccines will kill you rather than help you. you've got climate change denial and now you have this anti-mask thing that's happening. is there just a personality type that just doesn't believe in any science? >> no. actually, that's a good question. that's an excellent question. anti-vaxxers believe they know more than scientists based on this business you probably heard this expression correlation does not mean causation. just because who things happen at the same time does not mean that one caused the other. but, in general, the bigger the stakes, the stronger the denialism because the stronger the swirs theories. and i'm a formal skeptic i've spent a lot of time with this. the classic examples, and i
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don't want to -- i don't want to distract it from the seriousness of our situation now. but when kennedy was shot apparently by one guy, was so extraordinary. it was just so amazing that it led to all these conspiracy theories. when ronald reagan was shot but not killed, he survived it and he was very cool and charming about it, then the conspiracy theories didn't develop. in other words, the higher the stakes are against you, the more likely you are to spin up a very, very unreasonable conspiracy theory. when it comes to masks, joy -- >> uh-huh? >> this seems like common sense to have something between me and you just seems like there'd be less chance of you getting infected. so we've got to work on this. the other strange thing for many people is this intimate connection to climate change. in general, the lower your air
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quality, the lower the quality of your neighborhood, the more closely you live with people, the more likely you are to get affected or infected with coronavirus, and the more likely you are to suffer the environmental consequences of climate change, just even now, that is to say early in the 2020s. and so these things are of a piece. and people say to me, bill nye science guy, what can i do about climate change? what can i do? and people want me to say something like recycle your water bottles, which is good. but we need big ideas, joy. we need big changes. and so what you can do about climate change is vote. voting is the number one thing. the election's barely three months away. and the man is going to be out there trying to keep people from voting. i got a feeling. we got to show up with whatever
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it takes. photo i.d., notaries and card tables, lawn chairs, trail mix, whatever it takes, we've got to get the vote out this year. >> well, and i think you make a very good point because climate change, just like coronavirus, is something that is also very deeply affected by politics. what we've had with donald trump is he himself with his power of positive thinking, sort of weird thing that he believes in, doesn't seem to believe that it's real. but republicans, they know it's real. there are a couple stories that came out this week. republican party officials ordering masks for themselves making sure they had enough masks, but calling it building materials and building maintenance and using, like, fake names for what they were ordering because they didn't want him to get mad at them. you have the fox news personality who does a show on fox posing with her mask on to make sure she doesn't get sick. you've now got mitch mcconnell out there saying wear a mask. you have all of these people who
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are performing, oh, no, trump, we're with you on the mask thing, but for themselves they know it isn't real. so i guess the question would be now that donald trump is pretendi pretending that he thinks it's real. if he at this point then goes out because he is the leader of the trumpists and says, obligka guys, it's real, do you think at this point they would even believe him? >> joy, let me say, and this next statement will live in infamy. i'm not an expert on what trump voters are going to think. but we should all be wearing masks in the next hundred days or 99 days till the election. we should all wear masks because it works both ways. not only is it likely that you will not infect other people, which, to me is the main thing, but the other thing is the more people that have masks on, the much less likely you are to get infected. and this, as i like to say, is not rocket surgery, this is
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common sense. everybody we've got to vote, i'm not going to tell you for whom to vote but we've got to vote. i will say this is the most important election in our lifetime. >> that is excellent advice, scientific advice in a lot of ways because that actually is a way to solve the scientific issues. thank you so much, appreciate you being here. up next, oh, yes, the craziest damn thing in the world. ♪ pay for what you need. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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> okay. you know what's crazy? qanon, you know, that bananas conspiracy theory that supposes that donald trump donald trump as president is waging a secret war against powerful ped files that also worship satan. you know what's even crazier? when a pundit that gets paid actual money goes on air to talk about the good that qanon has done alongside the failings of the president. not the one whose books that the rnc buys. >> the best system in the world, that we are the best. >> q can do some crazy stuff with the pizza stuff and the wayfair stuff, but they uncovered a lot of good stuff when it comes to epstein. i never saw q as dangerous as
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antifa. but antifa gets to run wild on the internet. what do you think? >> they also do a lot of crazy stuff. >> okay, okay, okay. so no, qanon did not uncover the facts of jeffrey epstein. reporters did that. they also happen to be crazy dangerous. nbc news reports qanon followers have been implicated in kidnapping and one killing. jesse waters said while discussing the double standard of big tech censorship, i mentioned qanon. okay, jesse. but the damage may have already been done by legitimizing qanon on national television. and that is the craziest damn thing in the world! so through ancestry,
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>> half the republicans will vote know to any phase four package. and a lot of democrats will insist on $3 trillion, which is way too much. i'm confident president trump will lead us to a solution. >> what is your theory of the case about lindsey graham? because he has aligned himself with some of the harshest policies of donald trump, but, yet, he is seeking re-election. what do you make of that answer on the aid package? >> listen, joy, lindsey is a missing in action out of touch senator. he would not allow the federal benefit to those unemployed. he has 600,000 unemployed people here in the state. we need a senator that will fight for us and not against us. lindsey graham, the only thing he cares about his is tea time with the president or whether or not he can go to a fancy dinner at the trump hotel. but we need someone that will work on behalf of the hard
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working people here in south carolina, and we don't have it in lindsey graham. >> let me talk to you about a couple polls that show the race very tight. there is a super pac calls lindsey must go that put out a poll that shows a bit of a wider race. but either way, looking like you are pretty close. can you beat lindsey graham? he's been re-elected many times. how do you close that gap whether it's a two point gap or a five point gap. >> i have faced tough and long aids my entire life. going up as a poor black man in south carolina, it's been tough. but i never gave up hope. i worked extremely hard and took advantage of every opportunity. people from the start said we didn't have a chance in this race. they said history was against us. but we are demonstrating right now that we're making our own history. we are living up to america's promise, that if you work hard, you do the right things and the
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things that you want out of life can happen. we need to win this race so that we can improve the lives of the people here in south carolina. we're building a new movement. i call it the new south, the new south that is bold, inclusive and diverse. we just got over a million contributions today, joy, here. we broke the million mark here today. and, so, we're so proud of the job and the operation that we're building here in south carolina. that's why i ask folks to join us at jaimeharrison.com. we are going to change this country. we're going to change the south and we're going to bring hope back to south carolina. >> we know that southern states not paying a lot of attention to these southern races. these are huge cohorts of black voters if they register and vote at their population share. but you can't win that way alone. you have to convert some folks over. the lincoln project will start
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running ads. do you welcome that help? and do you think you could convert some lindsey graham voters, or is this about getting people who have not voted in the past to come to the polls? >> joy, one, we are focussing a lot of efforts on making sure we register more voters, similar to what stacey abrams did in georgia, and that effort is going well. we now have more than a million people of color registered to vote here in south carolina. at the same time, we are also converting lindsey graham supporters as well. we had a huge endorsement from jake wilkerson. he was a former chair of north america. he is now a big supporter of our operations. one vote at a time. >> all right. >> all voters, we are getting them in, and they're supporting our effort to really, really change this state. >> all right. well, good luck. thank you very much.
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we do have a big week ahead. yeah? thank you very much. i'm sorry we had to cut you off. tomorrow we will be dissecting bill barr's testimony about his role in enabling trump's worth tendencies. tomorrow i will be talking with mary trump. kerry washington joins me. and al franken to dissect all things 2020. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in," as goes baseball, so goes america. why major league baseball's covid outbreak is so much bigger than the game. then the republicans announce their plan to help jobless americans by slashing benefits. bernie sanders is here on that. plus, how trump is threatening the election by destroying the post office. and getting into good trouble as hundreds come to pay their respects to john lewis at the capital. "all in" starts
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