good evening and thanks for being with me. i'm alicia menendez. in a presidency that has been defined by chaos since the very start, this past week stands out. we saw the president cast doubt on the viability of the national election system and suggest the date of the election be moved. we also learned that we just lived through the most devastating three-month financial collapse on record. and that chaos is having an impact on americans. on friday, federal unemployment benefits dried up for 30 million americans, and the eviction moratorium expired. today on capitol hill chuck schumer and house speaker nancy

pelosi held a three and a half hour meeting with white house chief of staff mark meadows and treasury secretary steve mnuchin. >> we're not close yet. but it was a productive discussion. now each side knows where they're at. and we are going to work very hard to come to an agreement that meets the needs of the moment. we still believe, and we discussed this with them, that this is one of the greatest problems america faces, and we need to meet those needs in a very, very serious way. >> joining me for more, nicholas wu, usa today congressional reporter and leigh ann caldwell covering congress. going into these negotiations today on capitol hill, the sticking points were pretty clear. democrats want to extend that $600 unemployment benefits. you had republicans arguing for this liability protection from lawsuits. coming out of these negotiations, are those still the sticking points?

>> well, from what we're hearing and seeing, these are still very much the main sticking points for democrats. they really want the $600 boost to unemployment, as millions of americans still file for unemployment insurance, and republicans still want liability. mcconnell said earlier this week he wouldn't even bring a bill to the floor that didn't have the liability protections. so it's still -- they're getting closer, but it's still hard to reconcile these differences. >> and when they say they're getting closer, that's what we heard from members of both parties today, that there was some progress. what does that progress look like? and heading into tomorrow when this becomes about their staff sitting around the table, really hashing this out, where are those conversations expected to go? >> hey, alicia, so let's just say first this was a big sea change in the tony from what we heard thursday the last time these four met when things were extremely pessimistic. now since the millions of

americans are losing their jobless benefits and are facing potential eviction, there seems to be a big change today. they, as you mentioned, have left this meeting today saying that they made extreme progress. and the issues that seems to have made progress on, as mnuchin indicated is on the extension of unemployment benefits. he said they both agree on funding for schools and that they both really care about jobs, these small business programs as well, that they started on where they agree and are going to work from there. when it goes to the staff level tomorrow, the way these things usually work is the principals talk big picture, and the staff try to work out some detail, get some pen to paper and then the principals will come back again on monday and they'll keep refining and refining until eventually, hopefully, there is a deal. >> you know, nicholas, so much of the dynamics of this debate weren't really happening initially between democrats and republicans. they were happening within the

republican caucus. specifically, around this question of how much they wanted to extend unemployment benefits. now we're also hearing that the white house was open to the possibility of legislation that didn't include this liability protection. can you walk us through the dynamic between what's happening on capitol hill among republicans and what you're hearing from the white house? >> i think what we're seeing here is at least in some respects a divergence between what senate republicans want and what president trump and his administration want. you know, senator mcconnell said earlier this week there is as many as 20 senate republicans who said they don't need to spend any more money at all. whereas president trump has expressed openness to even boosting the unemployment benefit. or giving out more money to people. so we're seeing this divergence between the two, and mnuchin and meadows have a difficult task in front of them to first come up

with a deal with democrats, and then also take something back that senate republicans will vote for. >> right. leigh ann, one of the things we've also been hearing from the white house specifically from the president are these call for a payroll tax cut. those did not seem to be echoed at all in today's negotiations. what is the latest there? >> yeah we thought they were completely off the table, alicia, until once again the president tweeted about it today saying that he wants the payroll tax cut. but the reality is it is very difficult to find any support on capitol hill, including among republicans, the president's own party for a payroll tax cut. they say this is not the right time. it's not an effective policy to deal with the crisis that we're in. but this is what happens in negotiations with the president often. he is kind of the -- he is the unpredictable component in all of this, and a lot of times things can blow up because of his demands. as far as the main negotiators are, they don't seem to be

talking about it. but then, of course, the president has final say on anything that the administration, his people are negotiating on. as far as payroll tax cut, it seems to be a non-starter on capitol hill, alicia. >> nicholas, all of this happens against the backdrop of an election that is less than 100 days away. how much is that weighing on the mind of these legislators as they come to the table to hammer out a deal? >> i think it's weighing on the minds of quite a few. i was looking at some polling from cnbc and change research. and nearly half of americans said either they or someone in their household had lost wages as a result of covid, and something close to 40% of people had either been furloughed or had someone in their household who had been furloughed or lost their job. the economic pain is very real right now for a lot of americans. and if they don't like what they're seeing on capitol hill, they could turn this into action in november at the ballot box and vote out who they don't like.

>> all right. nicholas and leigh ann, thank you both. let's bring in julianne malveaux, and saar the president of one fair wage. all right, julianne, we talked about that gdp number, and that can seem very amorphous. how does that gdp number actually play out in the life of an average american? >> well, first off, we've never seen a jump down like this. 9.5% gdp drop, and that really is challenging for many people. but it plays out is how it plays out in terms of people's lives every day. we don't see people with jobs. we don't see children going to school. basically, we are at an economic slump that the white house and others refuse to acknowledge. and so here we are. we're in a recession. there is no way to parse it.

it's a recession. and what can we say? we must say that there -- >> it is a recession, but part of what i think you're underscoring is some of this pain was avoidable, right? if this administration had gotten their arms around this virus -- go ahead. >> sister, it was all avoidable. we started this in the early march. we're almost six months later there have been no plans. there have been no ways to talk about sending our children back to school. there has been nothing. so basically, this is a crisis of our own making. and that's a challenge. >> yep. >> so much of what i hear from people who are waiting for those checks to clear is the uncertainty, right, the not knowing is what makes this so, so hard. how is this impacting -- it's impacting middle class

americans. but when you talk about low-income americans, how is this all what's happening on capitol hill affecting them? how are they feeling on friday? and how are they going to feel on monday when there is potentially no clear resolution? >> this is catastrophic for millions of low wage workers. one of the largest sectors that has been the hardest hit is the service sector of the restaurant industry. and as you know, many of the workers, the majority of the workers that got laid off, about nine million workers got laid off when restaurants shut down in march. majority of them were earning tips, which meant that they got some minimum wage for tip workers, still $2.13, a literal legacy of slavery that exists to this day. and so they were already on the edge, earning 2 bucks with tips. and then told when the pandemic happened, when the shutdown happened by a majority of them were told by their state unemployment insurance offices

that their with tips was too low to immediate the threshold for state unemployment insurance. so federal unemployment insurance was their only lifeline. and we are hearing from thousands of workers right now i don't have enough money to buy groceries for my children. i'm about to be evicted. we have workers sending us pictures of their electricity bills saying we don't know how much longer we can be in touch with you because our internet is going out. we have parents saying we're about to steal food for our children. you're talking 9 million workers who are laid off. and those that are being called back are being called back to jobs for 2 and $3 when tips are down 75% across the country. and so you have a situation where workers are being asked to basically choose between their lives and their livelihood. do i go back for a $2 job and risk my life and my family's life because we all know indoor dining is one of the actually greatest places where you can get the virus, or do i not,

choose against that and protect myself, but then don't know how to feed my children. this lifeline is being taken away from millions and millions of workers, and i don't think people understand the scale or the severity of the crisis these workers are facing right now. >> leigh ann -- >> amazing. it's amazing that the senate left the congress left washington as this issue sat on the table. that's what's amazing to me. you have people, as my sister here has said, you have people who essentially are waiting for relief, and you have a senate who has left washington, atte t attempting to do whatever they do on a weekend. and what do people who don't have anything do on the weekend? so i stand in solidarity with

these folks, and i am very, very chagrinned at the way that the united states senate has chosen to manage this. they have left. they've left. it's absurd. >> especially when so much -- >> to the point -- saru, to your point about the choice that a lot of low wage workers are up against, which is if they go back to work, they run the risk of being exposed to this virus, they're also, again to your point about the way that tips are calculated into one's wages, not necessarily making any more by going back the work, often making less than they were making on this current unemployment plan, which is part of the reason that republicans are pushing back against this $600 augmentation, saying that it is disincentivizing workers to go back to work. so of course i want to get your take on that. part of the problem, though, isn't just the threshold.

it's about the fact that their alternative which is this 70% replacement deal actually has some implementation challenges that will slow down even getting that decreased amount to workers. >> we've already seen those implementation challenges. look, you have a moment where on the one hand workers are being told, millions of workers are being told your wages and tips were too low to meet the minimum threshold. it's almost like a judgment even though it wasn't their fault, right? and on the other hand you have republicans saying we don't want the give you the $600 because you need to go back to those same jobs that the states are telling i don't you are too low and by the way you paid taxes to get. you have workers stuck between a rock and a hard place and infuriated right now. we're talking about voting. we're talking to thousands of people who didn't vote or who are angry right now because they were told by their states you

earn too little to qualify for benefits. and in the samt moment being told by republicans we want you to go back to those jobs that you were told earned too little. and so, you know, people have no choice right now. there are very little choices left for people right now. people are really waking up. and what's extradite to me is that we're seeing in the restaurant industry saying workers say we're not going to put up with this. we're not going back to a $2 job without tips. and you have employers watching really conscientious independent restaurant owners across the country saying you know what? they're right. we're seeing hundreds of employers transition to higher wages in this moment, believe it or not. and so it's incredible to me when you have employers and workers coming together in a grub way that we've never seen before that legislators are so far behind and cannot get their act together to get these workers what they desperately need, which is not just a lifeline, not just that $600,

but hazard pay and the sick leave and everything else that is going to keep them safe right now and keep them by the way from infecting us as consumers as well. >> all right. >> the last word, go ahead. >> the issue is the ways that we deal with people that we call essential, but they're not essential in terms of the ways that we treat them. so we see people who have to work. some of us me, you, my sister who can work from home, but lots of people can't work from home. and they're being essentially exploited. there is something that we must do about it. and we must raise our voices about the ways that this coronavirus has hit people at the bottom. and that is a voice that has not been raised. >> and by the way.

>> thank you, both. >> thank you. >> thank you. after weeks of clashes between protesters and federal officers, the trump administration agreed to pull forces from portland. that is until last night. why the president is now reversing on that deal. but, t first, the latest ine biden's veep astakveepstakes. try wayfair. you got this! ♪

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if you thought we would get an answer on who joe biden will choose as his running mate by monday, well, join the club. it looks like the biden camp is pushing that announcement back, now promising something in the next two weeks. "the new york times" reports the lobbying has intensified as the search nears the end, and they say congressman karen bass and former obama national security adviser susan rice at the top of the list. with me now is msnbc's ali vitali. hey, ali, what more can you tell us about the lobbying that is going on inside the biden campaign?

>> well, alicia, you know there is no shortage of opinions in washington. and so as we get down to these final weeks before a vice presidential pick is officially made, there is that lobbying going on publicly and privately to make sure that allies of these contenders feel that those women are getting the best look that they possibly can. and so while all that lobbying is going on, i think it's sort of important to remember all the pieces of this puzzle that go into the effect eventual pick. of course you've got the vetting that goes on behind the scenes and the politics and the strategy and the personal relationships that will eventually go into making this decision. but then there is also the external factors. just think about where we've been since april when biden became the presumptive nominee of the party. we've sort of been in this ticking clock of who is joe biden going to pick as his vice president. now we're finally there. but the external factors here, you're thinking about the pandemic that is still raging

on. the recession that happened because of that pandemic, and then, of course, the civil unrest that is still happening across the country in response to the killing of george floyd. and so all of those things go into this decision, because, of course, politics doesn't happen in a vacuum, and neither does a vice presidential pick. >> politico reported this week that senator kamala harris has long been seen as tier 1, with a lot of other names as they described it tier 1b. is that your sense that is still the case? >> that was always my sense. i mean, we've seen this list of names shifting in realtime over the course of the last few months. but as new names have been added and others have fallen off, kamala harris has always been sort of at the center of it. but as we were talking about allies being very vocal about their picks right now, detractors are also being vocal. what we've seen in the last few weeks is the narrative seemingly forming around kamala harris. i hear that knowing uh-huh

because you know that narrative has been she is too ambitious. the woman ran for president. it's obvious that she is ambitious. but there is that tired trope that you and i can agree on about women, and especially women of color being told they're too ambitious. and kamala harris spoke to that just yesterday when she was talking to i think a black women leadership group, talking about how they will always call you ambitious when you yearn for more. the biden campaign, for their part, campaign manager did tweet the other day as this narrative was sort of forming in the press that the biden campaign is full of ambitious women that want to elect joe biden. so they're trying to make so that this veepstakes doesn't end with an acrimonious feeling in the air no matter who the eventual vice presidential pick circumstances yes, because no matter who that pick is, she is an ambitious woman. ali, i made a huge mistake which is i took out my pen and circled

monday in permanent ink thinking it was going to be the day we get this news. i should know better. tell me a little bit about why we're now hearing a different timeline. i know. >> you know, nothing is hard and fast anymore in terms of the dates for these picks. joe biden himself had initially set that august 2nd deadline. and this week said he would make a pick in the first week of august. but even that could be a little bit malleable. the one thing that's not changing is the fact that the democratic national convention starts in two weeks. and so we know that we're going have to have a pick before then. so we're just going to remain on high alert from now until that pick comes. but we know it's just a two-week period. don't circle any days on your calendar. let's use pence federal now on. but it's coming. it's coming. >> all right, ali, good advice. thank you so much. let's bring in kenya eveland, a reporter for the guardian. also with me alex thomson, the national political correspondent for politico. so often when we talk about

voovp picks in years past, at the end of this day, this is not going to make a major difference in the success of this ticket. do you think this year is any different? >> absolutely. if not for the three in one national crises that we're experiencing at this moment we can look at the pandemic, we can look at the recession, we can look at a national uprising around race as indication that this is a critical decision. more than any election cycle we've seen in our recent history. and we also are dealing with a prichlt, or assuming the democratic nominee who has not commitme committed to being a two-term president. it's a bit ironic that we hear perhaps one of those candidates might be too ambitious for president, although you would want someone to have confidence in their ability to do the job. but we are also dealing with a split in the democratic party. we're seeing essentially what this party will look like in the years to come as generations grow more progressive, as we see

them taking to the streets now, demanding a more progressive approach to racial justice reform in this country. democrats know that they have different factions of a party that has varying views that they need to bring together. so this vp stands to do just that. this decision is an important one. >> alex, two kenya's point, there is a grab bag of rationales for who biden should pick as his vice president. i mean, there is the argument, as kenya said, that he needs someone more progressive in order to appeal to the more progressive wing of the party. there is an argument he just needs a loyalist. there is an argument that he needs someone who can appeal to communities of color. so with all of these arguments coming his way, is there any dominant thinking inside of the campaign, understanding those are, of course, not mutually exclusive about which is the most important thing to deliver on this ticket? >> my reporting suggest there's isn't a dominant way of thinking

right i know, which is why one of the reasons why the decision has been delayed. i also think it's one of the decision why the process got a little bit out of the biden campaign's control this week. you saw incredible public lobbying, really extraordinary public lucky by defendant candidates and their allies for the different position. you even had kamala harris' allies in california request a meeting with the vetting team to talk kamala harris up. that's just like very rare. it's also very rare for it all to happen in public. now the thing is that everyone is now making their opinion made. you had ed rendell talk about how he thought kamala brushed people wrong a certain way. that was his quote. you also had a lot of allies of karen bass speak up. but at the end of the day, there are only six people that are going to be in this room at the very end of this decision, and none of them are talking publicly that is biden's sister val, who has managed almost every campaign of his life. incredibly important.

it's going to be jill biden, and it's going to be his long-time al lie, all of which are in their 60s. it's going to be ted kaufman, ste. those interest names. we actually don't know what the dominant thinking. and i think that's actually why it's taking a little bit longer, and they're running out the clock here. >> kenya, we've heard a lot of names floated that is part of this process. but there is one name that keeps being returned to over and over again, and that is senator kamala harris. i wonder what your sense is of where she is in this mix, and also where senator elizabeth warren is. >> absolutely. you would imagine the two of them are each independently, either front-runners themselves or pretty high up on the ticket. they have broader appeals. we saw them in their presidential runs themselves. women, young women, young women of color, communities of color and the factions of the party that democrats in particular are looking to rile up to energize, particularly with the momentum

on drawn from these social uprisings, they speak to younger voters. and they speak to a demographic that feels like they have been left out in a more centrist, more moderate approach to reaching across the aisle, and as a consequence, having more progressive, more liberal views silenced in this approach. they speak to those young voices. they speak to the communities. and particularly with senator harris, we also see obviously she energizes young african american voters, but also potentially as the first black american, fist indian american and first female vice president, those are different factions that she would also appeal to and that she can also speak to immigration reform. she can speak to marijuana legalization. she can speak to many of the issues that people within her party, within her state in particular have been quite vocal in saying she is a front-runner on. although it is interesting we see one of her local papers or state papers, excuse me, if there is a california representative you should be looking at, it's karen bass.

>> i want to know, alex, what you make of that. i was going to ask you about it. and say the minute one of these names is floated, you can almost here the opo machine, the engine begin to rev, right? what more are we going to hear in the coming weeks about some of these names that are newly being circulated. . >> we're going to hear more because the biden campaign is giving us more time. karen bass just had several articles written about her past prayed praise of fidel castro, calling him comandante and el jefe when he died. a speech she gave at a ribbon cutting at a church of scientology. and i think you might see old clips that surfaced from the debate moment between kamala harris and joe biden. kamala harris and a lot of her allies don't think she has anything to apologize, it's just politics as normal.

politics can be negative and you draw contrasts. a lot of people in biden's orbit believe they're od a root. and even though kamala harris sort of has the inside track here, has always been one of the front-runners on the short list, that tension is still there. and i think with another week and a half, i would not be surprised if the oppo dumps on susan rice, on karen bass, on val demings are really going start ramping up. >> all right. kenya and alex, i hope to see you both when we can have this conversation with the actual announcement. thank you both. the supreme court sided with dreamer, but that does not mean they're getting back their obama era protections. we'll tell you about the latest attack on daca from the trump administration. and the president agreed to draw down federal officers from portland, but now he appears to be reversing course. introducing ore-ida potato pay. where ore-ida golden crinkles are your crispy currency

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president trump says he sent federal agents to portland to calm the chaos in the streets, but it seems that what actually ended the nightly violence was withdrawing those same forces. more than a thousand protesters came out overnight, but the scene looked very different than in recent weeks. both thursday and friday night, protests remained peaceful. there were no federal officers and no tear gas. >> i'm just really glad to see that the troops have left and that they were able to have a peaceful protest last night because people within the movement are stepping up and saying this is not what we want to be associated with. we're here for black lives, and we want to spread that message to people instead of people seeing buildings on fire and destruction. >> oregon's governor, kate brown, announced a deal wednesday morning saying state and local officers would take over the job of securing the federal courthouse, and federal troops would begin leaving the city. but president trump's twitter account told a different story. wednesday afternoon, trump tweeted "the mayor and governor don't stop the violence, the

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they had a supreme court ruling in their favor, but daca recipients are still living in limbo. they have been since president trump tried to dismantle the program in 2017, and he is not giving up the fight. this week the trump administration said it will limit daca renewals to one year instead of two, and it will reject new applications. this came just weeks after the supreme court ruled that the president could not end daca, and that the administration acted illegally, failing to give an adequate reason for terminating the program. i want to bring in christina jimena, executive director of united we dream.

also juan escalante. he is awaiting his daca renewal. juan, i thought of you as i watched this news come down, because this means things for you in your real life. and i also thought about all of these high schoolers who have not yet had the opportunity to even apply for daca. tell us what this move by the trump administration means for you, means for daca recipient, and means for those young people who haven't even had a chance to apply to this program. >> absolutely. i think that the latest memorandum and guidance from the trump administration is a complete and utter disrespect of the supreme court's record. but most importantly, it's also the first step in ending the program all together. they're trying to essentially try to wind down the benefits of extremely popular program that both republicans, democrats, and even independents agree upon just ahead, conveniently enough of a presidential election in hopes that should the trump

administration win a second term, try to dismantle the program as early as next year. let's not pretend like the trump administration has proposed any sort of solution that will allow other daca recipients to try to obtain these kind of benefits or protections, and let's not forget that they have tried and thankfully failed to resolve this issue in a sensible manner through congress. so a second term or rather, excuse me, expecting the trump administration will behave somehow differently during a second term is outright foolish, and we have to continue to fight and make sure that people understand that this program should be preserved on to a sensible and common sense solution through congress and signed by the president and signed into law. >> christina, what does this all mean for the future of daca? connect the dots for us. what do the moves that the administration made mean in terms of what you see them doing to the program should president

trump get a second term in office? >> alicia, this is torture and pure cruelty. we're talking about people's lives. thousands of people that have already been living in fear under the attacks of this administration, and this attack again on daca defying the supreme court only creates more fear and uncertainly in the lives of people that have dak that and their families, their future about their jobs in the middle of a global pandemic. so the one thing that should be clear to all of us is even beyond dhaka, the kpeft attacks and immigrant communities on refugee, on other vulnerable communities shows us that this administration is not stopping their intent to implement a very racist and white nationalist agenda, targeting immigrants

front and center constantly. even in the -- >> can i ask you a question than? i want to ask you a question about that. do you think they're trying to get as much done as they possibly can should the president need to vacate the white house in january? or do you think that they are laying the groundwork for what they will do in a second administration? >> they're trying to get done as much as they can. this is a way to completely dismantle the program to confuse communities, to create fear. and quite frankly we know that there is evidence that this administration is already using the information of daca recipients to share with i.c.e. agents and to border patrol agents that we have seen are now being unleashed to go after protesters across the country. as juan was saying, there needs to be a clear effort from our community. and this is why we're all working to ensure that trump is defeated this november. because just imagine what this administration will do if they are reelected for a second term.

>> you know, juan, to pick up on something you said earlier, this is a wildly popular program. it is popular among democrats. it is popular among republicans. i have trouble understanding the political logic of choosing to do this in advance of november's election. >> well, the only thing i can tell you, this is the trump administration playing politics once again with people's lives. and in this case, it's over 700,000 people who like myself could face deportation if this program is in fact blown down. and for us, there is nothing clear they're this is the trump administration catering to its base, returning to 2015, 2016, 2017 talking points and saying we're going to deport every single person, as many people as they possibly can. and any sign of semblance that the trump administration is going to act sensibly or with heart when it comes to dreamers is an outright lie and should

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does it look like, in your mind, to see it take center stage in this election? >> well, i think it's great because the affordable care act saved my life. three years ago, i was diagnosed with stage four cancer, and without my insurance, today i would be bankrupt or dead. so real people's lives are on the line here. i think it's important to remind everybody what the voting records are of several people running for office now. in fact, donald trump two weeks ago said he would have a new and great health care plan in two weeks. so that's tomorrow but i'm not holding my breath that donald trump and the republicans have a plan because it's been ten years and we can see with the pandemic now how the lack of a plan kills americans. >> congressional democrats and members of president trump's

administration were on capitol hill today hammering out details what a new relief package could look like for americans. so there's been a lot of conversation around unemployment. a lot of conversations around what our social safety nets should look like. how has the pandemic changed the conversation that we're having about health care in america? >> well, i think the pandemic has made it clear that we're all one country and if one person has great health care and their neighbor has no health care, we're all at risk because we're all in this together. and so it's that much more important to make sure everybody has access to health care. and i want to see the bills being negotiated today include provisions to make sure that any coronavirus vaccine and treatments are available frito everyone because we can't let -- for people to get tested and

treated and to recover from covid-19. >> laura, we've seen gross inequities in the way the virus has ravaged particularly communities of color. we've get, depending on the hospital they go to often determines the outcomes of whether or not they're able to leave the hospital and continue to lead a healthy life without this virus. i mean, what does that tell you about the ways that we need to begin rethinking and reevaluating health care in this country? >> well, we live in a grossly unequal system. it's something i experienced when i was going through my chemotherapy treatments three years ago. every couple of weeks i was at the cancer center getting my treatment. the people around me, that community of people getting treatments did not -- does not reflect what the greater las vegas community looked like.

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america reached a hard to fathom milestone this week. 150,000 cases our fellow citizens now dead from covid-19. it took us roughly a half a year to get here. the cdc said it could rise to 180,000 in the next three weeks. it eclipses the numbers of americans killed during the vietnam war. many on the right still seem unconcerned like texas house republican who said this week test tested positive. >> i can't help but wonder if by keeping a mask on and keeping it in place that -- if i might have put some germs or some of the