tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC August 1, 2020 6:00pm-7:00pm PDT
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a double disaster is brewing in florida. tropical storm isaias is set to pick up strength as it races towards southeastern florida with maximum sustained winds of 70 miles an hour as it makes its way northwest. forecasters predict it will dump heavy rain on the state before heading north and northeast along the coast. florida's coronavirus infection rate is also not slowing down, reporting another day of more than 9,000 new infections. in california, cases are also on the rise, as are deaths. the state just reported its highest number of deaths in a single day, 214. california also topped more than half million cases. in all, more than 155,000 americans are known to have died from covid-19 and the virus continues to spread. meanwhile, another law maker was
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diagnosed with the virus and in a statement blames some of his colleagues for in his words strutting around the capitol without a mask to selfishly make a political statement at the expense of their colleagues, staff and families. he chairs a committee at a hearing this week from texas congressman who was diagnosed on wednesday. he's been very vocal about his opposition to wearing masks. plenty to discuss this hour, but let's begin with john lewis. his remarkable life cake to a remarkable end this week with services in atlanta, washington and selma, alabama. on thursday culminated in a funeral in a baptist church in atlanta. it was a rare occasion, music from jennifer holiday and wynans family, full military honors shall and tributes from four living presidents, three in person, one sent by the church.
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together they paid respect to the man all remarks got applause but president obama delivered john lewis eulogy, who he considered a hero, he spoke with passion and respect and some criticized him for being overertly political and other praised him for making a direct call to action. here's part one of our highlights of president obama's tribute to john lewis. >> i've come here today because i like so many americans owe a great debt to john lewis. and his forceful vision of freedom. now this country is a constant work in progress. we're born with instructions. to form a more perfect union.
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explicit in those words is the idea that we're imperfect that what gives each new generation purpose is to take up the unfinished work of the last and carry it further than any might have thought possible. john lewis, first of the freedom riders, head of the student non-violent coordinating committee, youngest speaker at the march on washington, leader on the march from selma to montgomery, member of congress, representing the people of this state and this district for 33 years, mentor to young people, including me at the time, until
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his final day on this earth, he not only embraced that responsibility but he made it his life's work. which isn't bad for a boy from troy. john was born into modest means, that means he was poor. in the heart of the jim crow south to parents who picked somebody else's kind. apparently, he didn't take to farm work. on days when he was supposed to help his brothers and sisters with their labor he'd hide under the porch and make a break for the school bus when it showed up. his mother willie may lewis
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nurtured that curiosity in this shy, serious child. once you learn something, she told her son, once you get something inside your head no one can take it away from you. as a boy john listened through the door after bed time as his father's friends complained about the klan. one sunday as a teenager he heard dr. king preach on the radio. as a college student in tennessee he signed up for jim lawson's workshops on the tactic of non-violent civil disobedience. john lewis was getting something inside his head. an idea he couldn't shake, took
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hold of him, that non-violent resistance and civil disobedience were the means to change laws but also to change hartl hearts and change minds and change nations and change the world. so he helped organize the national campaign in 1960. he and other young men and women sat at a segregated lunch well-dressed, straight back, refusing to let a milk shake poured on their heads or a cigarette extinguished on their backs, or a foot aimed at their ribs. refused to let that dent their dignity. and their sense of purpose. and after a few months the
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nashville campaign achieved the first successful desegregation of public facilities in any major city in the south. john got a taste of jail. for the first, second, third -- well, several times. but he also got a taste of victory. and it consumed him with righteous purpose and he took the battle deeper into the south. and that same year, just weeks after the supreme court ruled that segregation of interstate bus facilities was unconstitutional, john and bernard lafayette bought two tickets, climbed aboard a greyhound, sat up front, and refused to move.
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this was months before the first official freedom rides. he was doing a test. doing a te. trip was unsanctioned. few knew what they were up to. and every stop through the night, apparently the angry driver stormed out of the bus and into the bus station and john and bernard had no idea what he might come back with. or who he might come back with. nobody was there to protect them. there were no camera crews to record events. you know, sometimes, rev, we
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read about this and we kind of take it for granted, or at least we -- we act as if it was inevitable. imagine the courage of two people malia's age, younger than my oldest daughter, on their own. to challenge an entire infrastructure of oppression. john was only 20 years old. but he pushed all 20 of those years to the center of the table, betting everything, all of it, that his example could challenge centuries of convention and generations of brutal violence and countless
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daily in dignidignities suffere african-americans. like john the baptist, preparing the way, like those old testament prophets speaking truth to kings. john lewis did not hesitate and he kept on getting on board busses and sitting at lunch counters. got his mug shot taken again and again. marched again and again on a mission to change america. spoke to a quarter million people at the march on washington when he was just 23. helped organize the freedom summer in mississippi when he was just 24. at the ripe, old age of 25
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john was asked to lead the march from selma to montgomery. he was warned that governor wallace had ordered troopers to use violence. but he and jose' williams and others led them across that bridge anyway. and we've all seen the film and the footage and the photographs. president clinton mentioned the trench coat, the nap sack, the book to read, the apple to eat, the tooth brush, apparently jails weren't big on such creature comforts. and you look at those pictures and john looks so young, and
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he's small in stature, looking every bit that shy, serious child that his mother had raised and yet he's full of purpose. god's put perseverance in him. and we know what happened to the marchers that day. their bones were cracked by billie clubs, their eyes and lungs choked with tear gas, they knelt to pray which made their heads easier targets, and john was struck in the skull, and he thought he was going to die, surrounded by the sight of young americans gagging and bleeding and trampled, victims in their
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own country. state-sponsored violence. and the thing is i imagine initially, that day, the troopers thought they'd won the battle. you can imagine the conversations they had afterwards. [ applause ] you can imagine them saying, yeah, we showed them. they figured they'd turn the protesters back over the bridge. that they kept, that they preserved a system that denied the basic humanity of their fellow citizens. except this time there were some
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camera there's. this time the world saw what happened, bore witness to black americans who were asking for nothing more than to be treated like other americans. who were not asking for special treatment, just equal treatment, promised to them a century before. and almost another century before that. and when john woke up and checked himself out of the hospital he would make sure the world saw a movement that was, in the words of scripture, hard pressed on every side but not crushed. perplexed, but not in despair
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[ applause ] persecuted but not abandoned. struck down but not destroyed. they returned a battered prophet bandages around his head. and he said, more marchers will come now. and the people came. and the troopers parted. and the marchers reached montgomery. and the words reached the white house. and lyndon johnson, son of the south, said we shall overcome. and the voting rights act was signed into law.
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the life of john lewis was, in so many ways, exceptional. it vindicated the faith in our founding -- redeemed that faith. that most american of ideas. the idea that any of us, ordinary people without rank or wealth or title, or fame can somehow point out the imperfections of this nation and come together and challenge the status quo. and decide that it is in our power to remake this country that we love. until it more closely aligns with our highest ideals. what a radical idea.
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what a revolutionary notion. this idea that any of us, ordinary people, a young kid from troy can stand up to the powers and principalities to say no, this isn't right, this isn't true, this isn't just. we can do better. on the battlefield of justice americans like john, americans like reverend lowery and c.t. vivian, two other patriots we lost this year, liberated all of us, the many americans came to take for granted. america was built by people like
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that. america was built [ applause ] by john lewises. john lewises. he as much as anyone in our history brought this country a little bit closer to our highest ideals. and some day when we do finish that long journey towards freedom, when we do form a more perfect union, whether it's years from now or decade or even if it takes another two centuries, john lewis will be a founding father of that fuller, fairer, better america. [ applause ]
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and yet as exceptional as john was, here's the thing, john never believed that what he did was more than any citizen of this country can do. i mentioned in a statement the day john passed, thing about john was just how gentle and humble he was. and despite this storied, remarkable career, he treated everyone with kindness and respect because it was innate to him, this idea that any of us can do what he
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did. if we're willing to persevere. he believed that in all of us there exists the capacity for great courage. that in all of us there's a longing to do what's right. that in all of us there's a willingness to love all people and extend to them their god-given rights to dignity and respect. so many of us lose that sense it's taught out of us. we start feeling as if, in fact, we can't afford to extend kindness or decency to other people, that we're better off if
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we're above other people, and looking down on them. and so often that's encouraged in our culture. but john always said, he always saw the best in us. and he never gave up. and never stopped speaking out because he saw the best in us. he believed in us even when we didn't believe in ourselves. and as a congressman he didn't rest, he kept getting himself arrested. as an old man. he didn't sit out any fight. sat in all night long on the floor of the united states capitol. i know his staff was stressed. but the testing of his faith produced perseverance.
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he knew that the march is not over, that the race is not yet won, that we have not yet reached that blessed destination where we are judged by the content of our character. he knew from his own life that progress is fragile. that we have to be vigilant against the dark occurrence of this country's history, with our own history, with the whirlpools of violence and hatred and despair, they can always rise again. well, connor may be dwgone but today we witness with our own eyes police officers kneeling on the necks of black americans. george wallace may be gone.
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but we can witness our federal government sending agents to use tear gas and batons against peaceful demonstrators. [ applause ] we may no longer have to guess the number of jelly beans in a jar in order to cast a ballot but even as we sit here there are those in power who are doing their darnedest to discourage voting by closing voting locations and attacking our voting rights with surgical precision, even under mining the postal service in the run up to
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an election that's going to be dependent on mail-in ballots so people don't get sick. now i know this is a celebration of john's life, there are some who might say we shouldn't dwell on such things. but that's why i'm talking about it. john was devoted his time on this earth fighting the very attacks on democracy and what's best in america we're seeing circulate right now. >> more of president obama's eulogy for congressman john lewis is just ahead. stay close. ay clos'd be perfect!
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eulogy for lewis and more on the fight against covid-19. first let's get back to those highlights. here's president obama on the congressman's enduring fight for voting rights. >> politicians want to honor john and i'm so grateful for the legacy and work of all the congressional leaders who are here. but there's a better way than a statement calling him hero. you want to honor john, let's honor him by revitalizing the law that he was willing to die for. [ applause ] and by the way, naming it the
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john lewis voting rights act, that is a fine tribute, but john wouldn't want us to stop there, just try to get back where we already were, once we pass the john lewis voting rights act, we should keep marching, to make it even better. [ applause ] by making sure every american is automatically registered to vote, including former inmates who have earned their second chance. [ applause ] by adding polling places and expanding early voting and making election day a national holiday so if you are somebody who is working in a factory or if you're a single mom who has got to go to her job and doesn't get time off you can still cast your ballot.
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by guaranteeing that every american citizen has equal representation in our government, including the american citizens who live in washington, d.c. and in puerto rico. [ applause ] they're americans. by ending some of the partisan gerrymandering so that all voters from the power to choose their politicians, not the other way around. and if all this takes eliminating the filibuster, another jim crow relic, in order to secure the god-given rights of every american, then that's what we should do. [ applause ] even if we do all this, even if every bogus voter suppression
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law is struck off the books today, we've got to be honest with ourselves that too many of us choose not to exercise the franchise. too many of our citizens believe their vote won't make a difference, or they buy into this cynicism that by the way is the central strategy of voter suppression, to make you discouraged, to stop believing in your own power. so we're also going to have to remember what john said, if you don't do everything you can do to change things, then they will remain the same. you only pass this way once, you have to give it all you have. as long as young people are protesting in the streets, hoping real change takes hold, i'm homefpeful. but we can't
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casually abandon them at the ballot box. not when few elections have been as urgent on so many levels as this one. we can't treat voting as an errand to run if we have some time. we have to treat it as the most important action we can take. on behalf of democracy. like john, we have to give it all we have. i was proud that john lewis was a friend of mine. i met him when i was in law school. he came to speak. and i went up and i said mr. lewis, you are one of my heroes. what inspired me more than
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anything was to see what you and lawson and bob moses and nash and others did, and he got that kind of ah, shucks, thank you very much. next time i saw him i had been elected to the united states senate. and i told him, john, i'm here because of you. and on inauguration day 2009 he's one of the first people i greeted and hugged on that stand. and i told him, this is your day too.
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he was a good and kind and gentle man. and he believed in us, even when we don't believe in ourselves. and it's fitting that the last time john and i shared a public forum was on zoom. and i'm pretty sure neither he nor i set up the zoom call because we didn't know how to work it. as a virtual town hall with a gathering of young activists who had been helping to lead this summer's demonstrations in the wake of george floyd's death, and afterwards i spoke to john privately, and he could not have been prouder to see this new generation of activists standing up for freedom and equality, a new generation that was intent
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on voting and protecting the right to vote. in some cases a new generation running for political office. and i told him all those young people, john, every race, every religion, from every background and gender and sexual orientation, john, those are your children. they learned from your example. even if they didn't always know it. they'd understood through him what american citizenship requires, even if they only heard about his courage through the history books. by the thousands faceless, anonymous, relentless young people, black and white, have taken our whole nation back to those great wells of democracy
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which were dug deep by the founding fathers in the formulation of the constitution and the declaration of independence. dr. king said that in the 1960's and it came true again this summer. we see it outside our windows in big cities and rural towns in men and women young and old, straight americans, and lgbtq americans, blacks who long for equal treatment and whites who can no longer accept freedom for themselves what while witnessing the subjugation of their fellow americans. [ applause ] we see it in everybody doing the hard work of overcoming complacency, of overcoming our
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own freears and prejudices and hatreds. you see it in people trying to be better, truer versions of ourselves. and that's what john lewis teaches us. that's where real courage comes from, not from turning on each other, but by turning towards one another. not by sowing hatred and division, but by spreading love and truth. not by avoiding our responsibilities to create a better america and a better world, but by embracing those responsibilities with joy and
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perseverance and discovering that in our beloved community we do not walk alone. what a gift. john lewis was. we are all so lucky to have had him walk with us for a while. and show us the way. god bless you all. god bless america. god bless this gentle soul who pulled closer to its promise. thank you very much. [ applause ] >> highlights from president obama's eulogy for congressman john lewis. it was the cap stone of lewis's funeral on thursday, the summit of nearly a week of events in selma, atlanta and washington. let's get reaction now from
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michelle goldberg columnist for "new york times" and pete dominic, comedian and host. good to see you both. i'd like to know which part of that speech struck you the most or stayed with you the most. michelle what struck you the hardest in that speech? >> to be honest one thing that strikes me every time i see barack obama speak is just the memory of what it is to have a president but this particularly speech at the beginning you sort of wondered how far he was going to go in bringing the events of john lewis's life into the present, right, how far he was going to go and talk about our own bill connor. our own george wallace. you really by the end of that speech, you know, i think it was very hard-hitting for obama who has stayed somewhat above the fray in his post-presidential life. and i was particularly struck by the fact, him calling for an end
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to the filibuster, setting up the seasons biden administration will need to fix the incredible damage that's been done over the last three and half years. >> pete what struck you the most? >> -- pete, are you there? can you hear me? what struck you the most. >> you got me back. >> i got you. >> sorry about that. i mean, a lot. at a time when we have a president who is trying to under mine free and fair elections, i think it would take help from isis if they offered it. we saw our last president speak and as michele just said demand some pretty progressive changes and open up elections for more americans, make election day a holiday. for me personally to hear barack obama talk about what it was like to meet john lewis reminded me, guys, when i met john lewis. i was about halfway into my
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radio show and my career and i never really felt like i deserved it, almost like i feel right now being on with joshua and one of my favorite all-time columnists michelle, seriously, sometimes i feel inadequate. but when i interviewed congressman john lewis humbling me by being in my prns on my radio show i felt like i arri d arrived, i made it, this is a legend, one of the greatest americans to ever live. to be in his presence was unbelievable and to hear president obama talking about it gave me chills. he was such a great man and president obama honoring him that way was poin nant. >> michelle you had a similar encounter with congressman john lewis right? >> that's right. it's not a secret i struggled in last three and half years with
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the utter despair of living through this particular administration. so i met john lewis in 2007. i ran into him when he was campaigning for john osoff who is now running for senate at the time was runner for special election in georgia sixth district the first that was to be a referendum how americans felt about this new and awful administration. john was john lewis's former intern and he was out campaigning and i asked him what i asked people then which is whether they thought america was going to survive this man. and he was utterly confident that it would. you know. this is somebody who has faced the absolute worst that this country, you know, i think i wrote in my column, he was the best of this country and faced the worst of it. and he talked about how they didn't know when they marched
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across the bridge at selma they didn't know they'd get the voting rights act, people said they wouldn't get the fair housing act, all of the things, that that history was never pre-written, when you look back it seemed it was pre-ordained but when they were sitting out it seemed like this, almost inconceivably high mountain to climb and yet, you know, they did it, and they got us to a better place. they reinvented our democracy. they made the promise of democracy in america real. really for the first time. even if that promise has started to fray lately. i think, again, his confidence, his insist fenence that it's important to remain hopeful, optimistic and stead fast. >> yeah. >> you know, i'm not a optimistic person by nature but when you look at john lewis's
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life and the life of the heroes of the civil rights movement you see it's not so much about your disposition, although it helps to have a sort of sunny disposition but it's really a series of choices. bravery isn't a feeling it's a decision. >> right right. >> i take your point in how, i don't think far-fetched is the right term but speaks to quote of dr. king human progress doesn't roll in on the wheels of ineveryonitabili ineveryonitability -- inevitablity and now, seems we got , seems we go what do you think happens from here in terms of the legacy of john lewis including the way that president obama articulated it. i'm not sure that all of the things he articulated have an equal amount of support.
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you know, ending the filibuster, maybe. doing something about party gerrymandering. not sure who will be the first to raise their hand for that. but in terms of the concrete things president obama laid out are there one or two at the top of your list that you think are the most viable right now. >> well, i think that this new generation of young, black leaders is going to be picking up that torch that john lewis handed to barack obama that he has handed to them and i think they're going to go a lot further with the demands that they're making obviously on law enforcement reform. as far as voting, hard to believe those things could happen, also hard to believe the voting rights act was gutted in 2010 when president obama was president. it was affirmed by george bush and the u.s. senate unanimously before that. this happened during john lewis's lifetime after he
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achieved that. so first we have to get back the gains we lost. so these states can't put these racist laws into effect to make it harder for people to vote. first we have to get back section 5 and then take it much further. i'd love it see election day be a holiday. i think that's absolutely realistic. and i think americans this year would i think wade through a river of covid to get to a voting machine made of covid to pull that lever. we will not let john lewis' legacy die and i'm excited to follow these young group of civil rights leaders of our generation. >> in 2013 took away two parts of the voting rights act to allow the federal government to regulate parts of the country that are prone to have a history of voter disenfranchisement. michelle, with regards to what pete said, in terms of the new generation of olympic, what do you think ration of olympic, whao you thin generation of leadership, do you
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think it looks more like president obama like what we heard on thursday. does it look more like this new generation of leaders. i feel that was the question of the democratic primary question if you want someone that looks like joe biden or elizabeth warren or what the future is supposed to look like. the speech was very aspirational but before we have to pause what do you think that future looks like in terms of the leadership? is it another john lewis? or is it something else? >> well, i mean, look, i think it's obviously both. the barack obama that we heard from this week did not sound in a lot of ways like the barack obama of 2008. right. that barack obama still held out a lot of hope of bipartisan, still believed that the republican party could be made into a governoring party. so i think barack obama has radicalized somewhat along with the rest of us, the fact barack
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obama is calling for the end of the filibuster. i think that would have been unthinkable during his presidency. >> hold on, michelle, sorry to interrupt, i think those might be two different things, whether or not he's actually radicalized as you radicalized, as you put it. or whether the things he was thinking in the white house, he is now finally saying out loud. >> you know, i actually think it's both, right? i mean, i don't doubt that there was things that obama thought, in the white house, that he -- you know, and particularly, as the first, black president was very constrained in expressing anger, right? there was that whole -- there was a whole bit about that, right? the barack obama anger translator. but i, also, do think, you know, kind of knowing people who worked in the white house, barack obama really, truly, did believe in bipartisanship. really, truly, did believe that he could -- that some -- that some of the kind of the poisonous in our policy, in our politics, was the legacy of the
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baby-boom generation, and he could transcend it. i think barack obama's biggest mistake in politics was having too much faith in the decency and governing intentions of the republican party. and i think that that's all gone now. >> before we have to wrap for the hour. i did want to talk to you about the nation's coronavirus response. we know these negotiations have been taking place in washington. hopefully, presumably, early next week, we'll have some kind of draft deal between members of congress and the white house. this week, we had another hearing with the leaders of the task force. the medical leaders of the task force fighting coronavirus. dr. anthony fauci said he was cautiously optimistic about the prospects for a vaccine. here is part of what he said this week, at the hearing. >> there's never a guarantee that you're going to get a safe and effective vaccine. but, from everything we've seen now, in the animal data, as well
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as the early human data, we feel cautiously optimistic that we will have a vaccine by the end of this year and as we go into 2021. >> pete, we know that both sides were at lager heads in these negotiations. we, also, know that $600 benefit is gone, as of basically the last 24 hours. millions more americans getting on unemployment. with all the gridlock that we are seeing, pete, what do you think is the next step? neither side seems, really, willing to budge. and if neither side budges, then we got no deal. >> yeah. but let's -- let's be clear. one side does not see this as a real issue. they have just come around to admitting it's a problem. that it's not going to go away. that going to school should be fine. we're talking on august 1st, the most important thing we need to decide is whether or not kids need to go back to school and some already are. it is going to be a disaster.
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it already has -- we've already seen kids quarantining and teachers getting covid-19 because the kids are going back. in terms of congress and some agreement, they have to. this argument people are making, by the way, if you give people 600 bucks, they're not going to go back to work. that's an old, economic argument. there are -- when there are jobs, you can make that argument. there aren't any jobs to go back to. so republicans are looking terrible by their own republicans, knowing there are no jobs to go back to. they need this assistance, and they have got to get back to washington and get back to work, right away. like, yesterday, josh. >> michelle, what's your sense of what the path forward is? i totally understand pete's point in terms of the optics of this. we know it's playing out in some of the polling numbers and perceptions voters have on whether joe biden or trump would be better for coronavirus
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response. >> i think one of the feelings you have, over and over again, in this administration is, you know, this kind of horrifying roller-coaster sense that there, maybe, is no path forward, right? we can all see the crisis coming. you can see the crisis with covid coming. you remember with the shutdown, you could see that coming. you can see this economic, you know, emiseration by people losing the unemployment that was keeping them afloat in this kind of depression-level market. you can see the end of the moratorium on evictions. right? this is a catastrophe. and it's -- it's -- it 's a personal catastrophe for all of these people. it's going to be an economic catastrophe when the economy eases up, as a result. right? because when people don't have money, they don't spend money. it's astonishing to me that
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they' they've let it gone this far. and you would think, out of sheer self-interest, republicans would not want to torpedo the future of many of their constituents three months before an election. but i, also, think it could be a sign that they are lose faith in trump like everybody else, right? because one thing that we know about republicans is that they tend to be kind of big spenders when republicans are in power. they are perfectly willing to open the pursestrings when -- you know, it's why we typically have bigger deficits when you have republican leadership. and so, if they believe that joe biden is going to win, i think you can expect a sort of newfound call for fiscal esterity. before we go, a quick look ahead at some major interviews
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tomorrow morning. fans of a.m. joy, you definitely want to set the dvr because jonathan will speak with former attorney general eric holder and house speaker nancy pelosi. a.m. joy starts tomorrow morning at 10:00 eastern on msnbc. thank you so much for making time for us tonight. i will see you tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern. but until we meet again, i'm joshua johnson. stay safe. stay sharp. stay tuned there's more just ahead on msnbc. good night. ahead on msnbc good night (door bell rings) it's open! hey. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get,
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