good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, a shot in the arm or a missed shot.

we begin with an emerging picture of what the presidential election will look like. joe biden expected to announce a pick for vice president as early as this week. his short list, as we know it, a list of talented and formidable women. the frontrunners speculated to be black. not the first time a man and a woman share the presidential ticket, the optics in this race will be especially start. president obama's former vp working with an accomplished woman, likely of color, to defeat the current occupant of the white house who has centralized race for his election. not policies or solutions in the midst of a dueling crisis but

messages of division, fear, fantasy. the coronavirus pandemic can't be sold or bargained with and it is exactings it own toll on america. more than 4.6 million cases, 156,000 deaths and black americans, americans of color are overrepresented in both of those. even as the president pushed schools to reopen. we will talk more about the pandemic later in the show. but first we will start with the 2020 race and three months left. joe biden is polling ahead of president trump in a number of swing states that trump carried four years ago. but the former vice president is still campaigning in a post-covid america. how will he and the democrats ensure the turn out they need as his opponent attacks the voting

and voter fraud. joining me now biden for vice president senior advisor simone sandoval. how are you doing? >> i am good, rev. thank you for having me. >> what is the strategy to assure turnout? there are many that feel this election will turn on turnout and making sure that there is no suppression of the vote and no misrepresentation of the process of the vote. does the biden campaign have a strategy? >> absolutely we have a strategy. we have a robust program running, not just nationally but specifically and targeted in

battle states across this country. we are also doing voter education. the tweet from donald trump this weekend or earlier. all of my days run together. the tweet specifically about moving the election. we know it was designed to distract away from the worst quarterly drop in the nation's gdp in history. voter suppression effort by folks around the country and even foreign factors is what keeps me up at night. we have folks working on the ground to defend and to protect every american's right in this country to pass the ballot this november. educating folks that it is no difference between voting by mail. if you are absentee voting, you are using the mail to do it. it is an absolutely safe thing to do, but you need to know the deadlines. we have focus on the ground

communicating the information. the anniversary of the voter rights act is coming up. we will be talking about the life and the legacy of the late and great honorable congressman john lewis who fought for the right to vote. and also talking about what we need to do in this election this year just to make sure that we are not making it hard for folks to pass their ballots. >> i will get to that later in the show. >> sitting on the desk of mitch mcconnell right now. >> absolutely. we are hearing you say there is a strategy to get turnout and to deal with the fact that we are in a pandemic, and hopefully will go down by the fall and the

november voting. let me ask you, how do you explain in your mind and the mind of the campaign why the president is even suggesting postponing the election when he legally couldn't do it anyway. it would have to be congress. what is your thinking the president is trying to even raise with this issue? >> first of all, back in april vice president biden noted that donald trump would try to do something like this and donald trump's own aide said joe biden was trafficking in conspiracy theory and obviously joe biden knows donald trump better than his own staffers do. the reality is this, donald trump will always try to distract us away from the worst quarterly drop in gdp in the

nation's history. also what he is trying to do is casting doubt and diparagement is a form of voter suppression. casting a ballot is not an independent or republican or democratic thing, it is an american thing. and our elections are free, fair and open elections where everyone in the country can participate. it is a right. a right many people laid down their lives and fought for a very long time to defend. we are very much ensuring that our protection team are getting the facts out to folks. when they can vote. how they can vote. we are going to mask it up and go to the polls in a mask across the country or we are going to mail it in. that means you are participating

in the election. >> i am out of time. simone, i have known you since you were a younger activist and we always had very candid open conversations. who is the vice president going to announce this week as his oe he will announce his running mate in early august. by my clock it is august. early august can't be too far away. and know whoever the vice president selects as his running mate for this election, know this person will be extremely qualified, wildly experienced and the best governing partner for vice president biden. i think any of the women that you heard about fit that bill. >> all right. you won't tell me who. is she black? >> she could be.

we will have to wait to see. >> a lot of people are concerned that it seems there is a concerted effort of attacking the black women under consideration. you know i was one of the first to say i would like to see a black woman but i will deal with anybody on the list but i would love to see a black woman. thank you for being with me tonight. joining me now is editor of the cook political report and an nbc political analyst. let me go to you with some of the same questions. you looked at the polling. when is your assessment at this point and how does it compare to where we were at this point in the 2016 race? >> thanks for having me on, reverend. this race changed so much. biden has been ahead by four, five, six points. but still president trump, it

was competitive. president trump was still within striking distance. now it is up to eight, nine, ten. at this point right now, you know, clinton and trump were briefly about dead even. we have been trying to -- he is running well better than hillary clinton was and his unfavorable numbers are much lower than hers. >> now when we look at that, your own cook political report has biden's path to 270, the needed number for the electoral college easier than trump's. are there any vp picks that can help him in the toss-upstates specifically? >> i disagree with most people

in the field. i don't think that from an electoral standpoint it is that pivotal. you know it has been since lyndon johnson was picked by john kennedy in 1960 was the last time that it made a difference. to me it is important from a governing standpoint and which direction the democratic party will go. i think it is hugely important. in any election if we vet for president or vice president and any election that donald trump's name is going to be on the ballot, how can it be anything other than him. i don't even know if the election will be about joe biden. >> whoever is the running mate for a 70 or 78-year-old. who the vice president is matters a whole lot and biden may or may not run for re-election if he wins this time. four of the four last sitting

vice presidents that saw the party's nomination got it. >> let me show you your graphic on the 270. in terms of the states biden is doing better, the toss-up states and better for trump. walk us through why you think he, being joe biden, is better positioned now than hillary clinton was to get to 270 based on today's polling. >> right. hillary clinton won 20 states and the district of columbia. none of them are remotely competitive at this point. then in michigan and in pennsylvania biden is up a good bit, a really good bit. wisconsin would be the tipping point state, the state most likely to put joe biden over

270. but arizona and florida and north carolina are not far behind it. i mean right now biden is ahead in states with around 350 to 360 electoral votes. you know, will it tighten some, sure. it might. you know, a democrat has to be ahead by maybe 3 percentage points nationally for that to translate into 270 electoral votes and then given the coronavirus, postal service, all of the other things, you know, they need to have a couple of more points above that for leakage and anything going wrong. >> right. >> let me push on this before we run out of time. there are some vulnerable senators in unexpected places this cycle. which races are crucial for the control of the u.s. senate? >> alabama, democrats are probably going to lose one there. arizona, martha mcsally.

colorado, cordy gardner. maine, susan collins. tom tillas in north carolina and steve bullock in montana, those six, democrats need four of those if they are winning the white house. right now i put it at 60-40 that democrats take a majority. certainly not what we were saying 90 to 100 days ago. we have seen a real shift. >> charlie cook. thank you for being with us. joining me now is a republican political analyst and a co-host of this speak-easy podcast and dani danielle, an advisor at the center for american progress. you saw what charlie cook's polling shows.

it is not only, at this point and we know that three months is a long time in politics until the election, but at this point his polling and his analysis of the graphs are that he, himself, he sees biden winning the electoral college, the popular vote and the democrats taking the u.s. senate. if those things are correct what do the republicans need to do for the white house and for the senate? i know you are not a trump republican but there may be concern about the republicans losing the senate by you and others that are republican but not trump republicans. >> rev, now i consider myself an independent. i have disassociated with the party. i want to be clear on that. >> all right. the question is still yours to answer. as a former republican, what do you think -- let me go to

danielle. i think we have technical problems. all of a sudden he zoomed out. i am not paranoid. danielle. what do you think the republicans can do to turn this around? >> the only thing that i think the republicans could possibly do, and i think this is obviously a long shot is to take the coronavirus seriously and start to get the numbers down in red states right now that are overwhelmingly the hot spot of new cases and it is all of a sudden because of leadership. every state we look at is exploding because of leadership, and i think that donald trump is losing the elderly. losing white suburban moms. he is telling you to send your kids back to school and has no plan for it. he is putting elderly people at risk for the coronavirus at risk and doesn't seem to care.

i think he was golfing today. republicans can show maybe they cared about the american people and not just poll numbers as it pertains to the crisis. they had an opportunity here to actually win an election fair and square if they took the coronavirus seriously and they decided to do the opposite. >> now the whole thing of trying to go after joe biden as he did with hillary clinton and others does not seem to be working. it is clear that americans no joe biden and whether they agree with him or not they don't have the same type of dislike that we have seen in the past that the president has been able to label people, nickname them and they start suffering. it seems like he can't get his arms around how to message a negative scenario or a negative type of platform around joe

biden. >> he is using the same patterns over and over again. after eight years under an obama-biden administration, people know and trust joe biden. they know he is not a liar. he might stumble over his words but he is a patriot and he cares about the american people. they know that as a senator and they know that as vice president of the vice president. all of the lies and the nastiness that donald trump is known for is not going to stick. they will also say biden does not care about law and order. neither does trump. he is using federal agents to beat up protesters instead of uplifting the constitution. i think all of his old tactics are not going to work because they are so disgustingly transparent. >> what would would you say to your former party now that they

could -- should do to try to at least to maintain the senate if not the white house. >> look. i think the odds are not very good for republicans. if you are majority leader mitch mcconnell, i am not even certain your primary concern is donald trump versus maintaining your majority. that is to get at least five of the seven republicans the ability to distance from the president. i think if you look at the list, there are a lot of the things the republican party has to correct. i think the party is needing to recognize you need to step away from the racism. you need to really adapt to where the country and the vote is going. if they do not they will be finding themselves left behind. every single thing that we associate negatively they look

at as a part of the gop and that isn't a recipe for a successful party to be competitive in the future. >> their selection of a vice presidential candidate to run with joe biden, we expect to hear within days, danielle. there are those of us early saying we would like to see a black woman, not as an ultimatum but it is just time i feel. and then there seems to be an attack on a lot of the black women that have been named. really hard campaign to get some of them. melanie campbell and other black leaders in the black women leadership and civil rights space have been saying this is

vicious and unwarranted. how would there be fallout in the black community? >> well, i agree with you that i think it is far past time for a black woman to be vice president of the united states. i think it is past time for a black woman to be president of the united states. i think joe biden has to do right by the community. he is in the position that he is in because of him. he is in the position he is in because of the black community. if not for biden and the tremendous support he got in south carolina and the primaries he wouldn't be the democratic nominee. i think they need to be thoughtful about what they will gain in terms of putting a black woman on the ticket. >> i think danielle will be

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i want to speak directly to the republican party, or should i say the trumpican party. when donald trump took the oath of office he became the standard bearer for the republican party. a party so desperate to live in the past that instead of trying to move the country forward you

wholeheartedly embraced the slogan dedicated to regression. your base threw the support behind trump, so you bought into make america great again. what does that slogan mean to you, republicans? i guess more specifically when does it mean. given your singular focus on voter suppression, perhaps you think america was great in 1964. it was easier to stop black voters from exercise their rights before the passing of the voters rights act but chief justice roberts did his best to undo that when he gutted the voting rights act or 1919 before women could vote and certainly before they were allowed to make a public stand against that like that displayed earlier this

month. perhaps he and his gop colleagues would prefer to return to a time where they can use slurs with no recourse. and congressman louie gohmert, how else could you explain his flat refusal to listen to science and wear a mask. but no. like so many republicans the representative would prefer to live in the mythical, distant past of america. if that is the case he should consider leaches as a cure for his case of coronavirus. senator tom cotton is stuck in the anti-bellum south calling slavery "a necessary evil upon which the union was built."

but even in the 1850s there were senators who knew slavery was just plain evil, no necessary about it. senator charles sumner gave a fiery speech and was beaten by a fellow congressman on the floor of the senate for the his moral stand. we should be relieved tom cotton expressed had his soft spot for enslavers with words and not violence. but even 1854 is not far back enough for senator cotton who penned an editorial in the "new york times" last month calling if for the military occupation of american cities. it seems seeing black dpeople demonstrate for their lives made the senator long for the days when new york was under siege

from an oppressive government. back then it was the british but senator cotton would have us new yorkers under martial law imposed not by king george but would be tyrant donald trump. i have bad news for senator cotton and all of the republican brethren, it is not the 18th century or the 19th or even the 20th. and here in 2020 we believe in full freedoms for all-americans, even those pesky women. even black and brown folks. even from those that always saw your rallying cry make america great again for the regressive nonsense that it was. don't say you were not warned about your upcoming electoral defeat. back in may 2016 senator lindsey graham tweet if you nominate trump we will get destroyed and

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welcome back. just over a month ago a group of peaceful black lives matter marchers walked past the home of mark and patricia mcclowsky in missouri and they reacted by pointing guns including a semi automatic rifle at the protesters. the st. louis circuit attorney filed charges for unlawful use

of weapon and became under attack from republicans up to and including the president of the united states, even receiving death threats. now she said trump allies are targeting her re-election bid. joining me now is st. louis circuit attorney kimberly gardner. thank you for being with us. you have charged them with a crime of in terms of the use of weapons and have been attacked by president trump and attacked by people all over the country including out there in st. louis and i understand even fundraising against you. the election is tuesday, correct. >> yes it is, august 4th. it is a series of attacks led by a president because it is about voter suppression as well as

attacking prosecutorial discretion. and that is what is so crucial about this election. >> you are the attorney for the circuit. you said they shouldn't be using automatic weapons to menace and threaten people, which is the law. and you become the target of the law and order people in this country, including the president? >> yes. it is the failed distraction of the republican party from every level of leadership from the president to our senator josh holly to our governor mike parson and the attorney general to use it to distract from the real issue, the covid-19 pandemic which in my state they failed to bring resources to our state. our numbers are rising and people are dying in the state of missouri. >> now recent investigation by the "st. louis post-dispatch" shows they have a long history of filing lawsuits. this seems like a couple used to

using the law as a means against those they disagree with. how do you approach a case like this? >> well, i approach cases in my jurisdiction like every other case. we never bring charges -- we did not do that in this instance. it is not about this particular incident but prosecutial discretion and people like the president and the powerful few that want to silence the will of the people and silence the prosecutor like they are going around the country. and in california. this is the 21st century. voter suppression as well as fear of the war on violence that they are using to target african-american prosecutors

that are -- >> we are having trouble with your sound. but i think that there are many concerns that if they are successful in defeating miss gardner that it will send a chilling effect to prosecutors around the country which is why we wanted to have her on tonight to talk about this. kimberly gardner, the election is august 4th. people will speak on tuesday in st. louis. thank you for being on. coming up coronavirus continues to spread at a dangerous rate while the minority communities hit the hardest after receiving the least help. that's next. t after receiving the least help that's next. (vo) jack was one of six million pets in animal shelters

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this is about controlling the virus, tasting, tracing, treatment, social distancing, mask wearing, sanitation and the rest. we have not had the administration implement a national strategy. we are saying that in order to open up our economy and in order to have our children be safely in schools you must contain the virus. >> the pandemic continues to ravage america, state after state posting record number of coronavirus cases and tragically deaths. but as i have said since march, there has always been a pandemic

within the pandemic. and the data bears it out. black americans are disproporti disproportionately suffering from covid-19 according to the covid tracking project. add to that a president insistent on reopening schools in the fall and you have black americans of all ages in unique jeopardy. joining me is dr. blackstock ceo and founder of advancing health equity. first let me ask you, doctor, when you look at the numbers, the covid tracking project found that as of july 30th, 74% black americans were dying from coronavirus per 100,000 people compared to 30 deaths per

100,000 for white americans. and then from cdc racial data is known, black americans make up april 20% of the covid cases and 22% of the deaths but yet only 13% of the u.s. population. we all have the same lungs. why is there such a drastic disparity? >> thank you very figure me on reverend al. last time that we spoke we talked about the record from the states and now we are showing the staggering numbers. we know there are factors all related to systemic racism that placed black americans and others of color at risk from being infected and dying from covid-19. they have a history of underlying diseases, housing where there is overcrowding, using public transportation and

then just being in situations where they are more likely to be exposed to covid-19. okay. these are social and economic policies that essentially put black americans at risk from dying from covid. >> so, as we talk about funding, which is what is being fought for right now, we need to also talk about factoring in what you laid out as the social realities that cause a disproportionate amount of black people and others to deal with it in those communiti communities. there needs to be attention to level this off or as they say bring the curve down, flattening the curve, you can't act like it is all the same curve.

>> exactly. and in june i testified in front of the select subcommittee on the coronavirus. they had a special briefing on the crisis and i said we need an allocation of resources to black communities and ensuring that hospitals in our communities are well staffed and resourced and well prepared to treat the critically ill covid-19 patients. and in the long-term we need funding to invest in our communities around housing and around education and jobs, what we call the social determinants of health to influence the health of people and communities. >> you were saying, let me be real clear, that there is no genetic or biological reason, it is the reality that added and

fueled the medical report? >> i want to be clear about that. race is not the risk factor, racism is the risk factor for black americans being infected and dying from covid-19. my colleagues have been, you know, shouting at the top of their lungs in addressing racial health inequities. there there are policies that made black americans sick then we need to address those policies and to allocate even more funding to our community to address this crisis. >> now when we hear the president trying to reopen schools, if we are talking about public schools that also is

disproporti disproporti disproportionately shows that when you are talking about public schools, you are talking about schools that are used by people of color. >> absolutely. like it's a fals choice that whether students of color should stay home or go to school. if they stay home they're not going to have access to the resources that they need at school, but if they go to school it is unsafe because we know that the infrastructure is not in place to make a safe environment for coronavirus for our students, and so i think what this reveals is the chronic underfunding of our educational system which has disproportionately affected black and brown students. this is what we're seeing and it is a fallacy, it's a false choice we're making. >> thank you for being with us tonight. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. final thoughts. stay with us three unique gummies for your unique needs.

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>> as i look at the coverage over the last week of the continued fight for racial and social justice in this country, two things i want to clearly correct in my judgment. one, when we look at the continued protests that are going on in portland, they are trying to project these as unruly anarchists, an overwhelming majority of the protesters have been peaceful, and are there not for a

spectacle, but to deal with concrete calls for concrete change of how the criminal justice system deals with the lives of black people and those people ought not be distorted. they started and continue to protest. secondly, there are those that are saying oh, this is the first time we've seen collectives that are out in the battlefield of civil rights. that is not true. lazy reporters should check the history. in 1960 the freedom riders were not led by charismatic leaders. they were students who took things into their own initiative based on wanting to brauk doeak the walls. they had instructors and mentors and it was not led, and dr. king didn't ride those busses even into the black power era, they were not led by the black church. we've always had different roles

that different people played at the same time trying to achieve the same goal. so rather than be divisive, let's tell the truth, and we always had young people that were at the forefront which is why i was heart broken when i was told of the death of a young man in national action network who -- david, who was a youth director in baltimore, and the young david died over the weekend of natural causes, non-covid related. david carter will be missed by me and many that will be marching in washington on august 28th. we'll be covid-19 protocol-ready, david, though that is not the cause of your death, but we will never forget david and we're marching for justice in his name, john lewis' name and others that want to see police reform and voting rights passed by this u.s. senate. that does it for me.

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