death is avadible. and this is all avadible and we have to keep that in mind as we move forward. >> understood, we often we lie on you for these story, you again, i told the viewers, it's a tough one. the read out with joy reid starts now. the word of the day today is florida. donald trump's latest game of twitter pretend. trying to make believe he drew massive. a state he misspelled comically. and his campaign speech at the

tam tampa airport was so sparsely attended that the rows for empty. sad. and the coronavirus, the rate of new cases is far higher in the yith than in europe and elsewhere, the president said tweeted this unbelievable claim. quote, with the exceptions of new york and a few other locations, we have done much better than other countries dealing with the virus. and as much as trump is signalling out new york, he is forgetting that florida long ago surpassed as the epicenter of the virus. cont contradicted by people who are actually doctors. >> many of the cases shouldn't be cases. cases are up because we have the best testing in the world. >> the increases we are seeing are real increases in cases. as well as increasing in hospitalization and increase in death. >> i have to be a believer in

hi high droxy chloroquine. >> we are actually going to be two, three, four weeks, i think we will be in very good shape. >> what we're seeing today is different from march and april. it's an extraordinarily wide spell, in the rural and urban areas. >> trump is now lashing out at his own experts. he said today that deborah took the bait and hit us. pathetic. he is attacking dra dr. fauci. he tweeted, wrong, and numerous experts and fact checkers have claimed that his claims are simply not true. it seems that trump would rather ignore the inconvenient truth

that the virus is winning, and he is still insisting that schools reopen this fall. and public health experts are demanding a reset. and one that recognizes that the crisis is intensifying and that piecemeal strategies are not working. joining me now is a lead for the committee to protect medicare. if you did not test for pregnancy, does it mean you are not pregnant? you can avoid becoming pregnant. if you can just respond to it on the basis of coronavirus. donald trump seems to think if you don't trust for a thing, it goes away. >> thanks for having me. i'm a florida boy from south florida. we're happy. we're proud of you. doing big thing, big things as we say down here. and in terms of the whole discourse, the fact that i'm having the respors to trump

about clinical medicine is ridiculous. trump needs to stay in his lane. we want to medical school for a long time. to speak to -- we have the expertise to speak on. and the fact that trump is asserting himself in academic medicine is ridiculous. a lot of politicians are saying things that are completely wrong, and prafrankly, me, represents medical professionals, we are pissed off. we want homey to stay in his lane and not speak of medical or medicine if he doesn't understand it. it's insane. >> it is insane. you know, claire, you have school superintendents, they are terrified of bringing kids back to school when we have kids in summer camps get sick, going home and spreading it to we don't know whom. some of the kids have been

hospitalized. donald trump's own son is not necessarily going to be back in school. when you hear tpublic officials go along with the idea they will going to reopen schools because trump wants them to, when science is saying it isn't safe, can you possibly understand why someone would be more beholden to the president than to the health and safety of their own con stin constituents. >> no, when he is boshed everything. he has boshed wearing masks. he has boshed testing. he has bashed reopening of businesses and social gatherings. he is botching the reopening of schools and his own medical team has aban donald him. first, dr. fauci.

now, dr. birx. she said masks should be mandated by governors. well, that's the trump lane, and the admiral, he said forget about hydroxy. it doesn't work. so he is alone on an island with no science. in any state, there are a lot of people who are listening to him and not wearing masks. they think it's showing loyalty to trump to not wear a mask and we're having a huge outbreak in our state that is endangering lives of thousands and thousands of people. >> you know, and meanwhile, dr. ashby, i wish he was alone on that island. but there are people listening not just to him but to doctors who say sleep, sexual relations with demons can make you sick, and take hydrochloroquine.

are you dealing with that in hospitals? and how does it impact professionals when you have people who deny it isn't real? >> another great question, joy. it's frurthing. just to give people context, there's three high quality randomized control trials, a gold standard in medicine that said with hydrochloroquine has no effect, and potential harm. the fact we are having this conversation with people who are not medical professionals and people who are, for whatever reason, a turning a blind eye to evidence-based medicine. you are referring to one physician who talked about her use for her patients, contradicts all the research we have done that showed it didn't work, and the fact she is using her own anecdotal evidence is

just ridiculous. and again, shouldn't be talking about this on the show. this is a conversation for treating patients. we use the best standard of care so we have the best outcome and it's showing that people have care, despite the fact that our leaders are spewing misinformation out out. having to contradict someone who doesn't what tf they're talking about. i have to use the acronym. >> this is a school superintendent. every time i play out what happens when we go back to school, i get sick to my stomach. it's not safe. there's no way kit be safe. if you think anything else, i'm sorry. it's fantasy.

kids will get sick or worse. family members will die. teachers will die. this is from the atlanta journal constitution. 216 employees -- this is a school district. 216 employees have already tested positive and are in quarantine as they prepare for the new school year. so teachers are not going to get sick. they are already sick, and you have in the states of georgia and florida, governors, than these pieces of information that are from the people they are supposed to be governing. >> if you look at the economic reality of the -- a lot of the students that i are multigenerational families and they're going to be carriers. they may be okay.

if they contract it. man childr many children haven't been. but they're going to be carriers in multigenerational families and people are going to die. and the public health damage that has been done by this president -- we respect public health officials. we revere the information they give us in terms of protecting our health. he has taken a 2 by 4 to the public health standards in this country, and by the way n the process, millions on of people are losing their health insurance, and while he is in court trying to make sure they cannot get health insurance or have protection from pre-existing conditions trying to destroy the aca, known as obama care. >> yeah, and i think today was the deadline to day bu his great new plan for health care. i don't remember seeing it. >> right, not there. >> dr. ashby, the president and

his party are putting everything in the idea this ere is going te a vaccine. but there are a lot of concerns raised that rushing a vaccine through can actually make people sicker. you are concerned about that? that something will be rushed out and they will say, this is a vaccine, and much like hydrocol hydrochlorine, it will do more harm than good? >> i think you're getting at a very big sthau is not talked about. the public's distrust of the sack seen, and the process on which it's developed. there is not enough dialogue about the process, and developing a vaccine. what goes into it and what are the components and how is it going to be distributed. people have an inherent distrust of government and inherent distrust of our health care system. based onner ration irrational t.

and we are here. folks like me, we have a lot of medical professionals. people of color and making sure that we're holding the governmental and our health care system accountable. and we need to actually trust the science and actually trust the folks out there, investing in the communities, and this is one more point. this is -- the lack of testing right now is incredible. the average weight time in south florida is at least five days and the fact we can get a test within 30 minutes, which is ideal, not even a day, is insane. he keeps saying our testing is impeccable. it is great. it is not. if we cannot get the result in a certain amount of time, it

defeats the purpose. so testing is not okay. he needs to fix it. sorry, i'm angered. >> absolutely. very well said. from 305. my former home, the 305, thank you very much. the all out white house assault on the integrity of our elections. >> for states that have never done a mail-in voting, it will be a disaster. >> and mail-in system that is rife with cheating. >> and mail-in system, they are going to be more at risk for fraud. >> lordy, lerd lordy, is there anything that the president and his friends won't do. and senate republicans refuse to hold a hearing for you. trump gave him a job any way. the reid out continues after

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in 2016, it vus vladimir putin meddling in the elections trying to help trump. and unlike russia, trump is trying to interview with americans' right to vote in plain sight. the latest example is trump's threat to bring a lawsuit to stop a bill that the legislature just stopped. he called it an illegal midnight coup coupe, which is not true. meanwhile, the mail delivery is affecting the surge in voting, and last week, trump said we could delay the election entirely. and lucky you, i have a sound bite of trump just a moment ago

thank you for being here. he is now being -- it's been floated to him, whether or not or not he might try an executive order to stop mail-in voting. here he is. >> universal mail-in bat lllots going to be a great embarrassment to the country. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> well, i have a right to do it. we'll see what happens. >> he doesn't have a right to do that, right? >> he can true to do it. it will get shot down in court. you know, the lies continue. five states have been using mail-in ballots or absentee without a sing the glitch. hundreds of millions of voters have been able to vote this way, and just like this, i have noticed a change among the administration. they are starteding to use the term universal mail-in bat lol.

most of the states are not moving to a universal mail-in bat lol system. they are looking to create options to exercise their constitutional right to vote amid a pandemic. and with prepaid postage stamp. try to get -- there is a big push to get states to change their rules f they haven't already to make sure that any ballots received on or before election day will be counted. with the attacks on the u.s. postal service. but to have early in person voting so you can have polling places that are open for two weeks at least, 20 days, in advance. and to allow for people who for whatever reason, people with disabilities, may not have addressing to vote and have

expired online voter registration. the president can make the threats. several states have been using this system. there has been study after study that has shown that the elections can take place without a scandal, without a problem. to me this is just about him trying to set up a situation to sow seeds of confusion and fear so that if he loses in november, he can try to delegitimatize this election. >> to be an excuse. as you mentioned, the five states that use universal mail-in voting. all of sit in the mail. colorado, hawaii, utah, oregon state and washington, have done this way for a long time. i don't recall it being a problem in the past. the nevada law would man date a minimum of polling places. the last thing i want to talk to you about, i want to ask people

if they can fill out their ballot of the home and drop it off another the polling place. is that safest way to make sure it's counted in. >> therery at of different ways. some of it, you have to send it by mail bng. some of it, you have drop boxes and collection and some of them are doing what nevada is doing and there is a securitization process to make that the person who signed the ballot is the person who is having the vote counted. so states have a lot of experience in dealing with this. the five states you mention ready ones that had it in place without a glitch for many years but there are many other states that have been trying the system out for many years with the same result. so the important thing is to make sure, amid a pandemic, where there are people with -- compromised immunity, they will not be able to walk in a polling

station and feel comfortable handing in their ballot there are secure methods to allow people to vote amid the pandemic. this is specially important right now. we unfortunately, have a president who seems intent on weaponizing covid and weaponizing the infrastructure that we are able to vote. so states have to be able to create the options for voters and there's going to be a massive voter education effort that is going to be required to make sure voters know exactly how they are exercise -- exercise their vote. >> yeah, they're -- it has to be done in 91 days. so hopefully people jump on that very soon. great to to talk to you, thank you very much. and joining me now is snore amy klobuchar. you were a prosecutor, have you

ever saying i'm any klobuchar and i'm here to vote. have you done that? >> no, what we have done though is reviewed the cases. when i was the county attorney, we actually got all the voting cases in and we could go through each one of them because sometimes you could have people with the same name voting. the 99% of them turned out to be fathers and sons with the same same. and the very small incidences, i remember one case where a guy went out and did it and we did take on the case. that is what you do. and we know in the state of oregon that had vote by mail for decades, they had .0001% fraud in all those years and information, to me, having just been at a briefing with the trump intelligence people about

election security, this is one solution. we will have paper ballots, and it helps on that front, and i don't think we should be putting voters in the i think we should be putting voters in, my bill got passed in the house. it's part of the hero's act to get the funding so we can help voters vote, and please note, mitt romney is a fan of ballot by mail, and so are many republican secretaries of state and governors. the president is pretty much standing alone. >> right, because mitt romney gets elected by mail. they manage to vote a republican every time. let me rate yead you a bit of " new york times" article. there is talk about the man who is running the post aal service.

erratic service can delay the blank ballots, and this year, before november 3, are invalidated and some team can be disenfranchised. is there anything planned by democrats and can you get any republicans, can bhid romney be convinced to go along with them to protect the post office? it's in the constitution. can they protect it? >> yeah, and republicans in the past have wanted to help the post office. it's very, very important in rural areas, on the election front, roy blunt is working with me to figure out what the fund shg be on elections. it's very important. and the postal service, $25 billion included in the house bill. we are pushing for this. senator schumer is going to talk two the postmaster, not only

making problems when it comes to funding but pulling rules in place that made it really hard for mail to be delivered and that is why you're hearing reports in the last few weeks of late mail. we have to get it fixed before the election. >> yeah, and let me ask you, very quickly. i want to jump over and ask a question about the democrat who is running, joe biden. there is a lot of talk about his veep search a bit of a mess at this point. and pitting women against women, black women against black women. what do you make of this? you pulled yourself out of the running and said you think shut be a woman of color. what do you make of what is happening now n terms of the chris dodds of the world. >> yeah, i think that he actually put out a statement after that. but let me just start, dodd did clarify. first, it's a historic moment. that is why i have said that repeatedly that i think it's a

historic moment where we can put a woman of color on the ticket. second, these women are all qualified. every woman he is considering is great for the job. but in the end, i think he's going to make a good decision. i don't know who it's going to be. but it's someone we're going to respect and be proud of on the ticket and someone who will bring confidence and compassion. and on the issue of ambition, i'm glad these women -- we need more women of ambition running for office, and every woman who goes to work, who -- joy, congratulations on your new show, would haven't had the show without ambition. ambition is a good thing. >> yeah, absolutely. ambition is a good thing to all the little girls out there watching. senator amy klobuchar, thank you. and with just 91 days until

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joe biden chose to pledge his running mate by the first week of august. well, it's the first week of august and we are learning more about where the former vp stands on his decision. nbc news reports that according to sources close, biden planned to drill down on vetting

materials with the goal of narrowing the list to three or four candidates. and aides say is unlikely to come this week. he has extended his search by as much as two weeks and some long-term biden alleys say it's pitting women, black women, against one another. joining me is healther mcgee, and robert p. jones, and author of "white too long." thank you both for being here. and heather, i go to you first on the weird dynamic, where different people are lobbying for different black women to be his running mate, and pitting them against each other, they are not having, their surrogates are having. >> yeah, it's a lot and to be honest, all of this noise needs

to quiet down. this is the most consequential decision, putting the ptd who who could be the first female president. he has amazing choices. he has the choice of -- you have elizabeth warren, and the groups that are the least enthusiastic, and you have susan rice, an amazing thing getting the band back together. you have after criminal justice and health care reform. the issues that are important to voters and the superstar campaigner in kamala harris. and it is not on message with what joe biden is trying to do. he needs to say, this is why i want to pick a woman, and here is why shared leadership and a

partnership, and balanced leadership is really important to the future of the country. >> yeah, and as representative slim cliborn, he is saying no one wants to pit anyone against each other. it's these particular women that is a problem. robbie, great to the see you. meanwhile, on the other side of it. you have donald trump sitting in a deficit to joe biden. i think we overdid it with the "jaws" clip, when they are trying to reassure everyone that it's fine blmp when it's not fine with the company. and for instance in north carolina, if you believe the polls, biden is up by 4 points, and joe biden already won with barack obama in 2008 and you

have georgia giving biden up one point, and you can go on and on and on through all the races, arizona, all the states are in jeopardy. what do you thiscy happening among white votering in particular in the safe. for it to happen, aleast some white voters have to be moving. >> yeah, that's right, and you know, what i say, we are seeing some movement, particularly among white women, and particularly among whites with a four-year college degree, and recent polling at prri, we have favorablety numbers for both of these candidates, if you look at white americans with a four-year college degree, that is 23% of the population, bindden's favorablety is 6%. and trump is down to 29% among the key grew.

if you're the trump administration, they are key number, they are numbers he won in 2016. he really does have to win. and he is still holding on to white tprotestants. but we are seeing white catholics are down to 36% favorablety to trump, and this is a group he won by nearly two-thirds in 2016. >> well, just to stay with you for a moment on the white evangelicals. and jerry falwell says he will only wear a mask from the virginia governor, from high school or college. that caused a backlash against him. you have a lot of black folks that attend that university, liberty university, calling on him to resign. do those controversies push people away.

the only place that which he go fishing forvotes is among white catholics? >> you know, we're seeing zero movement among white evangelical t protestants. you make it, grabbing women by their genitals in the elections, and none of it has made a difference. the favorablety is nearly two thifds. it's about where they were in 2016. and we intro dued him, and a solid rear view of it, and there are fewer of them in this election cycle, and that makes a big difference. they were 17% of the population in 2017, and michigan, wisconsin

and pennsylvania, white catholics are as big or bigger than white evangelicals in the battleground states. >> for 15% of the population, that is 15% of the americans. is there a sign there is one pick that biden can make for vp that could get the turn out among african-americans to max out? >> you know, the most important thing honestly, that joe biden and the democrats can do to ensure high voter turn out is the attack voter suppression and the population is fired up and feels like this is one of the most consequential elections. and the republicans are backed in the corner and they feel they have to attack the democracy. all the it will occasilitigatio

shurg that have enough polling locations in african-american neighborhoods, that is more important than any of the polling has shown any vp pick would be. any of the women are strong, including i will say the one woman who is still on the short list who is not african-american. she has high favorablety. and it's really about whether our votes will be counted and not so much who is on the bottom of the ticket. >> all right, we shall see. weather mcgee, and robert, i have to come you come back to talk about the book and congratulations, and the craziest thing in the world is next. iest thing in the world is next safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! safe drivers do save 40%. click or call for a quote today. safe drivas a nation,40%. in awe've been tested before. and he has, too.

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tiktok. >> whether it is microsoft or somebody else, what the price is, the united states should get a very large percentage of that price because we're making it possible. that's the way i think. and i think it's very fair. >> okay. joining me now is stephanie rhule, senior business correspondent. of course nobody else would think that because only mob bosses think that. this isn't a crime family. >> i was sure you were going -- i was sure you were going to say this conversation was going to be the craziest thing you heard all day, so i was sitting waiting going, this has to be the craziest. but, yes, this is your second craziest thing that you have heard all day, yeah. >> i mean, if a company, microsoft, wants to buy another company, tiktok, that has nothing to do with the president of the united states, and the government doesn't get a piece

of the action, right? that's not the way it works. >> it's not the way it works. but more than that, it undermines what the president was originally saying. right? last week this was about national security. this was about data. this was about unfair practices and the chinese, right? that's how we started this dance. when really we know the president hates tiktok because of all the young tiktokers that sabotaged a bunch of ticket sales when he had a rally in tulsa. we're not talking about national security. the president is saying microsoft will get themselves a sweet deal and the u.s. government wants a piece of it. what exactly is the president doing? or more importantly, is this just a distraction? joy, there are a lot of very important things happening in the world, whether it's the drop in gdp, people losing their unemployment benefits, the fact that we're expecting another 25,000 small businesses to go under by the end of the year.

and oh, by the way, we have a pandemic spreading. but, no, the president has made tiktok front and center. >> by the way, thank you for mentioning that because we know businesses, both of us do, that are under intense pressure because of the drop in sales and people coming into the stores and into their shops, into their restaurants. meanwhile kodak. we have been talking about this. thank god i have your cell phone number because i don't understand this stuff and i'm glad to talk to you. donald trump announced $765 million financing for kodak. now all of a sudden they are going to be a drug company. kodak granted its executive chairman options for 1.5 million shares. one day later, the administration of donald trump announces this deal. in the days that followed, the stocks soared making those additional options worth tens of millions of dollars. what the heck is going on with this deal? >> what the heck is going on? and a big portion of those

shares are immediately vesting, which means he can sell them right away. now, these additional options were not part of his compensation package that was public record. it wasn't something that was in his contract. but it was just based on some sort of agreement that the executive chair got that on monday. and then tuesday the government announces this deal. now, here is why this deal stinks. kodak filed for bankrupt lcy in 2011. they squandered it. in the age of digital, they lost their groove. they filed in 2012. they tried to get their groove back and failed. even in the last year, executives have been guiding wall street saying, we might not be able to continue much longer. they issued a deal in the spring because they didn't have enough money. here we are a company with no pharmaceutical experience. yes, they have experience in making chemicals that had to do with developing film. no experience.

so if this administration wanted to say, we're too dependent on getting drug ingredients from china, we want to bring it here, that makes a lot of sense. guess what we have though, joy? all sorts of viable drug companies that could do this. >> right. >> kodak sure ain't one of them. >> that's my problem. and you have been tweeting about how this is a collateralized loan. peter navarro said by assets and performance contract. how can it be collateralized by assets if they're bankrupt? >> bingo. well, they're bankrupt in 2011. they have made their way out. but tell me what those assets are. i say it tongue and cheek, but if you were to say to me, they have very valuable patents. really? where were they? the stock was trading at $2 a share before they announced that deal. so it's unclear to me where they

have all of these valuable assets. it's also unclear to me why we're not hearing about this from more lawmakers. i know it is tricky. if you are chuck schumer or governor cuomo, kodak is located in your state and they are going to create jobs. but they should be asking questions, as well as the sec. >> well, and the other question is -- exactly. this is taxpayer money that's going to a company that doesn't make drugs when there are drug companies. we had a doctor on last week that said if there were no drug companies in america, then this would make sense, to create one using the powers of the presidency and this defense production act. but there are lots of drug companies. does this stink to you as something that is some kind of a deal that donald trump is going to make money in? because i truly don't get it, honestly. >> listen, it stinks to the high heavens. but is it premature to officially link the president or the executives of this company or their very large shareholders

to the trump administration? it's premature to say anything like that. but it is not premature to be asking the question and start digging. i promise you this story is not going away and we will continue to dig. it don't make sense. >> please stay on. appreciate you, my friend. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. tonight on "all in," back to school no matter how dangerous. a desperate president tries to force america back open and people just keep getting infected. tonight my exclusive interview with a congressman on his covid diagnosis and who he's blaming for it. then no relief in sight and is congress about to take a summer vacation without rescuing suffering americans? i'm ask. plus, the new york investigation of the trump organization describes extensive and protracted criminal conduct. and