good afternoon. i'm chris jansing. we're starting with that breaking news this hour. ohio's governor mike dewine has tested positive for covid-19. he was being tested as part of the standard operating procedure to greet president trump who is now heading to cleveland for a fundraiser. dewine has no symptoms, we're told, but he is heading home to quarantine for 14 days.

and the lieutenant governor has tested negative. he will greet president trump instead. president trump is due to land any moment now. he's scheduled to tour a whirlpool corporation manufacturing plant this afternoon and then head to that private fundraising event tonight. at least 1.2 million people have filed for first-time unemployment. while that number is lower than wall street forecast, it marks the 20th straight week where new unemployment claims have topped 1 million. and also today, devastating early warning signs as many schools are still trying to figure out what reopening schools look like. decisions that will impact 50 million public school students. in georgia whery in school year just started on monday, look at cherokee county. four schools have already been impacted by the virus. three students testing positive, including a first and second grader and an entire kindergarten class is in quarantine after a teacher contributed symptoms.

now you may have seen this photo from cherokee county where dozens of seniors gathered for a traditional first day of school senior picture. that's according to the atlanta journal constitution newspaper. you don't see any masks there and no social distancing. and in another county, photos of packed hallways. most of the students there without masks either. joining me is blayne alexander who is following all these developments for us from atlanta. it's good to see you. i want to start with the nuts and bolts. are these schools where we're seeing these outbreaks, including elementary school kids, closing back down? are they just quarantining the kids? what's happening? >> well, chris, so here's how the district is handling this. of the schools impacted, they're doing contact tracing and they are essentially isolating those students or those individuals who may have come in close contact with those individuals who tested positive. so for instance, in one of those classes, they are quarantining, for instance, a handful of

students in that same class. a handful of after-school students and the teacher themselves. but the district said the case didn't require the closure of the entire classroom. instead what they are doing is making arrangements to continue providing teaching to the students. in other instance for example, they quarantined the entire classroom telling them to keep the students at home for a matter of days. so this is a district that's about an hour north of metro atlanta. and they are doing hybrid learning. that means parents there have the choice of whether to send their students to school in person or choose to let them learn online. learn virtually. we understand about 23% of the parents there in cherokee county have chosen virtual learning. we spoke with one of those parents, and she explained to nbc news why she made the decision not to send her child back into the classroom. take a look. >> although i feel like they are following the guidelines that they've set forth, i don't feel like those guidelines are strict

enough. >> so you heard what she had to say. just within the past 15 minutes or so, i've been in touch with the spokesperson for cherokee county schools who tells me that they -- students are required to wear masks, they strongly encourage masks for students and provided all students with two reusable masks. >> nbc's blayne alexander, thank you for that. joining me is brookings institution fellow and former senior aide to valerie jarrett in the obama administration, dr. kavita patel. and she's been working with the trump administration as an external adviser on drug pricing. we want to talk about the schools today. we're seeing the problems schools have who have reopened are having. what's your number one concern about reopening schools right now? >> the number one concern, chris, has to be this uneven approach, particularly in places that are still seeing either a rise in cases or have not seen a

significant decline. so it's the combination. we have still huge parts of this country where the numbers of cases just far exceed even the cdc's own recommendations for safely having more than ten people in a gathering, which includes schools. and on top of that, it's, as you just heard from the reporting, there's just very heterogenius mixed approaches to how schools are deal with this. some are requiring masks. some are not. some are able to exhibit those clear physical distance guidelines. some are not. and it's unfortunate because as we're predicting with the reopening of schools, it will almost mirror, chris, the reopening of the country that we had after that march and april stay-at-home period. and we saw early cases spike, and it's resulted in why we have millions of cases of covid today. >> we keep seeing that photo in the palding county school and

i've seen some other angles of that where you see kids from the front. obviously, we don't want to show students but you see most of them are not wearing masks. and buzzfeed is reporting the district has called mask wearing a personal choice and said social distancing will not be able to enforce in most cases, which is exactly what we're seeing. i should say, we have not independently confirmed that. but how do you keep kids safe if you are saying, well, we can't enforce social distance iing? >> right. that's exactly the answer, chris. you can't promise to keep children safe. and i think we're talking about children, school workers, teachers, and then their entire household. and i want to include, you know, young kind of -- young adults, particularly those going back to colleges and universities and that exact same conversation because this is playing out through many halls. schools, pre-k, child care, as well as universities. >> dr. kavita patel, always

great to have you on the program. we appreciate it. and georgia isn't alone with all of these problems. in corinth, mississippi, more than 100 students have been sent home to quarantine since school reopened. that's a spokeswoman for the school district telling nbc. as cases across that state increase, some physicians say there's a disconnect between the severity of the pandemic and how the public is treating it. joining me now, nbc news correspondent ellison barber in jackson, mississippi, for us. so what are you hearing from doctors on the ground in that state? >> that they are overwhelmed. when you talk to doctors here, they'll remind you that mississippi started with a lot of chronic disadvantages before the pandemic even came. and this state, they do not have a lot of physicians. when you look at every single state's physician per capita rate, mississippi ranks the lowest but their population has some of the highestera rates of

hypertension, diabetes and heart disease, things that make it more difficult to fight off covid-19 if you get sick. the hospitals here, the doctors, the nurses, they are stretched incredibly thin. >> i see the faces of our nurses and the physicians and the respiratory therapists in our covid units, in the icu in the e.r.s, and they are exhausted. i see a disconnect between them and people out in the community in mississippi. my friends, not all my friends, but friends, acquaintances, family, people i know, many of them are carrying on as if there's nothing going on. >> this hospital where we are right now, the university of mississippi medical center, they are the only level one trauma center in the entire state. they aren't just full in their icu here. they have a deficit. as of yesterday they had 14 patients who needed icu beds,

but they were not available. that doesn't just impact people in this area but the entire state because, chris, they've had to turn away transfers for critical care patients at other hospitals and send them outside of the state because they do not have room here. chris? >> ellison barber in jackson, mississippi, thank you so much for that. well, a 5:00 p.m. meeting is scheduled with key negotiators on capitol hill as urgency to make a deal on a coronavirus relief bill is growing. and only incremental progress has been made. this morning on cnbc, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell was asked if he waited too long to put something on the table after the house passed the heroes act way back in may. here's what senator mcconnell and then speaker nancy pelosi had to say about that. >> this is the perfect time to take a look at it. we had no idea back in april and march what the economy was going to look like in july. and so we need to be careful about what we do next, and that's exactly why this was the

perfect time to tackle this issue. >> since we passed our bill more than -- nearly 3.5 million people have been added to the infection list and around 70,000 people have died while mr. mcconnell passed -- pressed the pause button. will we find a solution? we will. b when we have an agreement, we will. >> meanwhile, president trump has said he might just go ahead and order executive orders on what congress can't get done. joining me, capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt and nbc news senior white house reporter shannon pettypiece. so that incremental progress, kasie, i took directly from you. but give us an update. so you've got speaker pelosi, leader mcconnell. generally expressing optimism, but where are we really? >> well, chris, it's been a little bit of a stalemate for the course of the morning, and the language has been getting a bit darker. nancy pelosi at her press conference this morning said that while she sees a light at

the end of the tunnel in these negotiations, that might may be the light of the oncoming train of the virus. and you know, i think that that sort of metaphor, if you will, illustrates and underscores the political realities around these negotiations. republicans were trying to hold onto the white house, trying to hold onto the senate. they know that nancy pelosi in many ways has the upper hand here and democrats are holding out for more money, particularly for schools, for state and local governments and especially for unemployment insurance. we know that republicans have made an offer of $400 a week for that benefit through december. democrats essentially saying that's not good enough per we want $600 a week through january. so i think the language that you're hearing and the facts that mitch mcconnell went out there in public and said underscored the urgency of actually doing something big designed to send a message to

the administration about how they feel about moving forward here. and, you know, we've had this addition of the white house chief of staff mark meadows to the negotiations. and that, i think, has changed some of the contours, perhaps made it more difficult for them to find agreement. steve mnuchin, the treasury secretary, was able to crack big deals with democrats in march as this pandemic was bearing down on all of us. so, of course, this is a very long way of saying that americans are still probably going to have to wait at least another week for any relief from congress. and i think standing here right now, it seems that across the board, people still are pushing for this big deal for something to happen. this isn't a situation that has completely fallen apart or anything along those lines. but i do think the next 24 to 48 hours are going to be absolutely critical for setting the tone as to whether or not that's a possibility or whether we remain on track to get a deal at some point in the next few days, chris. >> yeah, so it sounds like that

5:00 meeting with the four key negotiators today is critical. shannon, the president we know, there's -- he knows there's a lot of pressure out there. people are hurting. he says, look, if they can't collectively as a congress get stuff done, i'll do it by myself. i'll issue executive orders. can he do that? >> well, not in the way he's talking about doing them. we'll see if the general counsel's office is able to come up with something. but he is talking about removing the payroll tax through executive order. and paying out unemployment insurance through executive order. the constitution is very clear that congress has the power over taxation and how tax revenue is appropriated. so if the president wants to continue giving out $600 a week unemployment checks, he's going to have to come up with that money from somewhere. the administration has tried in the past to divert money from

other places. for example, for the border wall, but they have had limited success there. so they can do something. it will be immediately challenged in court, but there is a line of thinking in the white house that they will say, you know, fine, challenge us in court. we're not going to stand by and let people run out of money and be evicted from their homes and to try and make it look like they are taking action. but there is one action. i will note the president could be taking. and that is getting involved in these negotiations. the president has not talked to pelosi or schumer. and, you know, he still puts these threats out there but is not trying to be the dealmaker that he sold himself to be the american public as about four years ago. >> kasie hunt, shannon pettypiece, thank you both. still ahead -- another security breach at mar-a-lago. three teenagers were arrested after jumping a wall onto the property with a loaded firearm. we're going to talk to an author who literally wrote the book on president's palm beach resort.

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as president donald trump arrives in ohio today, we have more information about republican governor mike dewine

testing positive for the coronavirus. he was tested while being screened to greet the president in cleveland and will now quarantine for 14 days. but he is 73, and so dewine is in a higher risk category for coronavirus patients. he also has a history of respiratory issues. now while in ohio, the president plans to sign an executive order requiring the federal government to purchase essential medicines from u.s. manufacturers. after touring a whirlpool plant, the president will attend a fundraiser on the heels of some positive money news for him. the trump campaign and the rnc announcing they raised more than $165 million in july. that beats joe biden and the dnc's haul of $140 million. biden led in fundraising in both may and june. nbc news monica alba joins me from cleveland. so a turn around for trump's fundraising. of course, he's traveling, and he gets money for having photos taken with him and all that. biden has been staying home.

but give us the sense of the significance of all these numbers? >> that's exactly right. the president has been criss-crossing the country in the last two months, raising money for his re-election campaign while highlighting the coronavirus pandemic, which is quite a contrast to the biden campaign. it's significant after being outraised for two months that now the trump campaign and the republican national committee have said they've raised more. but when you look at another critical number here, cash on hand, the trump campaign and republican entities say they have $300 million. very similar to what the biden team and the democrats have at $294 million. and when you think the president has had more than three years to raise that amount of money, that's a really important number as we look to november. but the president is following a familiar pattern of late. he comes to somewhere like here in northern ohio for official white house business but tacks on a campaign fundraiser. a high-dollar event with donors that allows him to raise this kind of money. that's why you're seeing an

uptick in numbers. he'll have two more this weekend. fundraising in the hamptons on saturday and in new jersey on sunday, chris. >> monica alba in cleveland for us, thank you so much for that. with the election 89 days away and the coronavirus still out of control, president trump continues to warn that widespread mail-in voting will lead to fraud. but when asked for proof at his press briefing, he was a little short on specifics. >> even "the washington post" had a terrible story on mail-in and "the new york times" and many -- many newspapers have had terrible stories. you see them all over the internet. >> in fact, "the washington post" has labeled such claims by trump with four pinocchios which they define in the pantheon of misstatements as a whopper. joining me is carolyn maloney who the president has used to make his erroneous point. good to see you, congresswoman.

>> good to see you. >> congratulations on your primary win. there was a six-week delay counting ballots in new york city before you were redeclared the winner after the pandemic caused a massive surge in mail-in voting. i want to play to get people up to speed. here's the president's take on the delay and your results. >> when you look at the carolyn maloney election, i think -- and i'll give you the story. i think you have to do that election over. that's no good. you have to take a look in new york. they have thousands of ballots. they dont know what happened to them. is there fraud? it's a disaster. >> and sorry if we're stepping on each other a little. we have a delay, but the president said he wants a do-over. he says they can't count on that being a legit outcome. what do you say to the president, congresswoman? >> well, i believe, chris, that the president is trying to sow lack of support or trust in the

election process of our country. he has already called for the election, the november election, to be put off to a later date which he would prefer, which is clearly unconstitutional. he is behind joe biden in the polls, and he's concerned about his own re-election, and he's attacking mail-in process which we want to make it more convenient for people to vote with early voting, voting on election. and in some cases, being able to cast your votes by absentee ballot. so it's an attack on the entire process. also an important part of the process is the postal service. giving them the support, the personnel, the technology to process the votes and to stamp them and to do their job. yet his administration is cutting back monies for the post office. his own board of governors that is dominated by people he

appointed have come out and called for $25 billion just to make the post office whole from the loss they experienced due to the coronavirus. think where we'd be if we didn't have them to deliver our mail, deliver our packages and very importantly, medications during the pandemic. and, of course, you will not have the convenience for many that need -- do not feel comfortable going to the polls to vote to have the option of mailing in their ballots if you don't have a post office. so he's trying to undermine -- >> let me ask you about that. let me ask you about that because i know you have been concerned about the money for the postal service. there's this meeting coming up at 5:00 this afternoon with negotiators. in your conversations with your leadership and your conversations with other democrats in your caucus, how confident are you that the money that is needed by the post office to do what they need to do in november will be there? >> i believe it will be there because it's needed. and the post office was in our

country even before the constitution. the republicans keep proposing to do it piecemeal. you see it with the president trying to say he'll do it by executive order. mcconnell is trying to get a piecemeal approach. there's certain areas, such as the post office, such as aid to cities and states which my city and state desperately need being at the epicenter of the coronavirus, tremendous financial toll that we lost revenues of responding to it. and if they do it piecemeal, they'll leave out the post office, the aid to state and cities. so it has to be a comprehensive package. and nancy pelosi is representing the priorities of our caucus that support, of course, the unemployment, and we want the $600 that the -- the federal dollars to be part of that. and we're very concerned about evictions. the moratorium on evictions has expired, and many people need their money from unemployment to just keep them in their homes.

there are many crises. and she is working for a complete package that will cover all of these aspects. and if they are allowed to do it piecemeal, they'll definitely leave out the post office. they'll leave out city and state and other critical areas or priorities for democrats. >> congresswoman carolyn maloney of new york. the newly declared winner of her primary. thank you so much. appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. weekly jobless claims fell to their lowest level since march. first time filings still topped 1 million. what that tells us about the financial crisis we're facing and prospects for recovery. also we'll go live to texas where a hospital in the rio grande valley is so everywhelmed with covid-19 patients it's had to helicopter them to facilities as far away as oklahoma city. it works naturally with the water in your body to unblock your gut.

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now for the latest facts on the pandemic at this hour. right now the u.s. is reporting more than 4.8 million cases of the coronavirus. nearly 160,000 people have lost their lives. numbers of cases are either increasing or holding steady in most states but soaring in others. the mayor of los angeles, eric garcetti is threatening to authorize's city's department of water and power to simply shut down the utilities of any location that's hosting large gatherings of people. and a sign of the economic

impact of the outbreak. contracts to buy co-ops and condos in manhattan have dropped by 57% in july compared to one year ago. with coronavirus cases in texas hitting a record high, a rural hospital in the rio grande valley is so overwhelmed with new patients it's being forced to transfer them to other states. some as far away as oklahoma. texas has reported nearly 500,000 cases and more than 8,100 deaths. joining me from dallas is nbc news correspondent morgan chesky. so morgan, you have patients airlifted. i heard you reporting about families losing multiple members. the situation there sounds devastating. what more can you tell us? >> chris, it absolutely is. and we've reported before on hidalgo county in the rio grande valley, just miles from mexico. what borders them is starr county. i had a chance to speak to their health director who said everything seemed to be fine until about a month ago when

those cases simply started to skyrocket. to the point where this one hospital that's in this county with a mere 45 beds had helicopters coming in and out making patients from as far away as albuquerque, as oklahoma city because they were so critical they couldn't receive the care they needed at that small hospital. he told me, yes, he absolutely watched family members from the same family, multiple siblings die within about a week's time from covid-19. and i want you to listen in to a portion of the interview we had yesterday as he just shared his frustration on the reality that is still very much facing thousands of texans. take a listen. >> -- opening our state for business, it was a need for the community. it was -- the whole problem is already behind us. now we can go and be together

and gather and party and enjoy social activities. and that was in communities like ours. we were seeing up to 20 members from the same family. i have seen citizens dying. i have seen kids losing both parents in my community. so this is a devastating consequence for a small community. >> 20 members from the same family. three siblings dying. and they are not out of the woods yet, chris. what makes it even worse, the health director told me, is that because these patients have had to be taken so far away, the families don't have money to get them back home. chris? >> for their funerals. morgan chesky in dallas for us, thank you so much. we're hearing for the first time from a former ambassador who worked at the u.s. embassy in london when ambassador woody johnson reportedly asked british

officials to move the british open to president trump's turnberry golf club in scotland. in an exclusive interview with rachel maddow, the former number two at the embassy in london, addressed reports that an inspector general report into the request was flagged as classified. >> well, first of all, it's very unusual that a report like that would be classified or withheld for any reason. there's sometimes classified annexes reports that deal with things like classified communications or sensitive issues but the general thrust of the report and the analysis of the post leadership and morale and how the ambassador is doing is never classified in these investigative reports. so that in itself is a red flag if the report was classified. >> he says that request, which would be a financial boon to the president's company, is definitely unethical and possibly illegal. that charge coincides with a new book coming out titled "the grifter's club."

trump, mar-a-lago and the selling of the presidency. it's out this week. it looks into how the president has conducted government business at his mar-a-lago estate. joining me now, one of the authors of that boorks miami herrals reporter sarah blaysky. great to have you here. does president trump asking the u.s. ambassador to the uk to try to get the british open moved to one of his property fit with what you've found? >> absolutely. we see this time and time again. so we've seen president trump try to move the g7 summit to his golf course in doral, florida, just outside of miami. we've seen him host international summits at mar-a-lago. a couple of them are detailed in the book. we've seen him host less formal things at his club with leaders from international countries. what that does is, in addition to bringing in all kinds of revenue for room rentals during

the actual summit, we've seen in some instances that it also boosts tourism to some of those resorts. so people that want to say, oh, well, i went and sat in the same place that donald trump met chinese president xi jinping and so this is all very much the same thing that we've seen from this president since the day he took office. >> yeah, you didn't just look at mar-a-lago. you did an analysis of all four of his south florida properties. what did you find? >> so we have found that the -- by comparing monthly averages year to year, that the presidency and even the campaign was incredibly profitable for donald trump and his florida resort. so he has a couple of golf courses and then mar-a-lago, his crown jewel, as you are looking at here. mar-a-lago is both a club and the exclusive enclave of palm beach, a 500-member private

club, and it is the president's home. and this is where, in addition to the trump hotel in d.c., we've seen the most evidence of spending by both the u.s. government and foreign governments, which raises a lot of questions for experts on the emoluments clause which prohibits the president from making money off foreign or domestic governments while he is in office. >> you describe in great detail how the president loves being, i think what somebody called, the ultimate maitre d'. this is a club where they don't care about the emoluments club. it costs, what, $200,000 to join and then there's a yearly fee. the trump administration has denied that among the rich members was the late sex offender jeffrey epstein. what did you find in your research? >> so jeffrey epstein was absolutely a member of mar-a-lago. we were able to view some of these exclusive membership lists which are generally private.

and on that list, jeffrey epstein is listed as a member. his account was closed with mar-a-lago in october of 2007. so that is as this case against him is unfolding in palm beach county, the original case involving sex crimes. but we actually found out is that it does not appear that his account being closed at mar-a-lago has anything to do with that case. in fact, what members of this club have told us is that jeffrey epstein allegedly hit on or maybe even assaulted the daughter of a member at this club, and the one thing we know about donald trump is that he does not take kindly to anything that can decrease the value of the trump brand. and certainly if a member felt that their daughter was in danger, that would decrease the value of this incredibly exclusive club which you mentioned now costs $200,000 to

join, sometimes upwards of $250,000 to join. >> the book, that's just touching on it, on all the revelations. sarah blaskey, congratulations on the book and thank you for talking to us about it. with just 89 days before election day we'll take you live to kent county, michigan, a republican stronghold that went solidly for president trump in 2016. what residents there are saying now about who they plan to support. and new york city launching covid-19 checkpoints. will the plan help the state avoid a second wave of coronavirus? you're watching msnbc. [♪]

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[ engines revving ] ♪ ♪ it's amazing to see them in the wild like th-- shhh. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. almost 1.2 million workers in the u.s. filed for state unemployment benefits last week. that's the lowest weekly total we've seen during the pandemic. but it's the 20th straight week the number move to claims is more than 1 million. joining me to break all of it

down, jason furman, and, of course, the former chair of the white house council of economic advisers under the obama administration. good to see you again, jason. look, on the surface if you aren't an economist you can say, oh, this is good news/bad news, but how do you see it? >> i think this is bad news. this is the worst week for unemployment insurance claims that we've ever seen up until the pandemic. it's definitely better from the horrific news that we were getting a few months ago, but it's still in deep recession territory. >> so these numbers come the day before the highly anticipated monthly jobs report is expected to be released. so what will that tell us, and what are you expecting to see tomorrow? >> tomorrow is a hard one to predict because we know that in the month of july, many, many millions of people lost jobs. and many millions of people got

their jobs back. and what the government will report is the difference between those two very large numbers. the expectation is something like 1.5 million jobs gained. when i look at the totality of data, i expect the number to be below that. i think a negative number is possible but not the most likely scenario for tomorrow. >> well, speaking of your projections, back in april you predicted the u.s. was about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country. what's your crystal ball telling you these days? >> you know, the jobs numbers in may and june were enormous. the growth we're going to get for the third quarter of this year is probably going to be the record growth for a quarter of this year. but all of that is just because you're coming from such an incredibly low point that getting, you know, one-third of the way back to where you were looks like rapid growth, but

still leaves you really far from where you want to go. so i think, broadly speaking, you know, the economy is mostly leveled off now. it has a lot more to go to recover. and it's going to be a lot harder to make progress going forward than it has been the last two months. >> you lived in this world of congress going behind closed doors and negotiators trying to figure out the next step on something for the economy but never in a situation like this. we have a 5:00 meeting coming up with the four key negotiators looking about what the next step should be in terms of financial aid. they are debating, among other things, cutting that enhanced weekly unemployment benefit from $600 to $400. what do you make of that, and big picture, what will you be looking for, for those who desperately need money to stay afloat? >> yeah, i mean, i've been in a lot of these negotiations. we usually try to sell them at midnight the night before.

that, to me, felt less than ideal and too late. the fact that it's six days after the deadline. it's terrible the republicans took this long to start negotiating. the democrats have a $3 trillion bill they passed in the house. republicans want $1 trillion. i think, frankly, a number between the two of those would be perfectly good for the economy. i'd say halfway between them. in terms of unemployment benefits, an extra $400 a week, under that you'd still have the majority of people getting more money from unemployment than they were getting from their job. it would be a robust amount. i would rather see it tapered slowly over time, linked to the unemployment rate as unemployment came down. it would go down. but i do think there's some room for some compromise there and to still have a really robust benefit. the most important is that something gets done, and it gets done quickly. >> and a robust benefit would be great.

jason furman, always great to see you. thank you so much for coming on the program. appreciate it. meantime, two of the country's largest cities are implementing new rules to stop the spread of the coronavirus. the mayor of los angeles says he's going to authorize the city to shut off water and power to residents who host large parties like this one on mullholland drive monday night. >> by turning off that power, shutting down that water, we feel we can close these places down which usually are not one-time ofders but multiple offenders. the same thing we experience with businesses. >> and new york city is establishing check points to help enforce the 14-day quarantine order for people who are traveling into the area from 34 states and puerto rico that are on a list. joining me from new york city's penn station is msnbc correspondent ron allen. so, ron, obviously penn station is one of them, but where else are these checkpoints, and what exactly can people expect to see

happening there? >> the checkpoints are at major transportation hubs coming into the city. the tunnels, the bridges. here at penn station and a bus station up the road. what you can expect is to see civilians basically, or people from the sheriff's office, in uniform handing out information. city officials are describing this in very nonconfrontational terms what they are trying to do. they are trying to provide people information so that they are aware of the requirement to quarantine. the requirement that's been on the books here since the governor's executive order way back on june 25th. but it was rarely enforced. now because the numbers are so low, the covid numbers are so low in new york, they're trying to enforce this because they found as much as 20% of the new cases are tied to people who have come here from out of state. and, of course, we know the numbers are going up in a lot of places around the state -- out of state. so here at penn station, for example, when a train arrived from florida, from miami, there

was a group of people from the testing and tracing office who met people coming off the train and gave them information. similarly, when the train arrived from washington, d.c., because there may be people from virginia and maryland which are both hot spots. that's what they are trying to do. and describing it in very and describing it in very nonconfrontational terms, though there is a $10,000 fine for noncompliance, it's unclear what would make you deserve that kind of fine. we'll see as this plays out. chris. >> yeah, a lot of people wondering if it's going to be effective. we shall see. ron allen, thank you. always good to see you, my friend. >> a political shift in the state of michigan as republican voters there say they don't recognize the party they grew up with. what that could mean for the president as we approach the november election. you're watching msnbc. lay sets and more one of a kind finds. it all ships free. and with new deals every day

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so the 2020 election is less than 90 days away, and while many voters are already made their minds up, there are a number of lifelong republicans

who feel politically homeless right now, at least that's what they tell us. that they're disillusioned with the republican party. and today, we head to michigan for our county-to-county series, a state that the president barely won in 2016. joining me now from kent county, is digital reporter dasha burns. i know you spoke with a panel of republican voters there. and one voter in particular honed in on president trump's law and order message. and how that's going over in the suburbs where those critical voters are. tell us more about it. >> reporter: hey, chris. yeah, i have been following that slice of the electorate, conflicted, conservative voters for a while now. the slovoters i sat down with i have been talking to since last november and so much has changed in all of our lives since then, and it has impacted views politically. katie morris is a mom of two. she voted for donald trump in 2016. when i met her, she was open to voting for him again, but since

then, that door has closed. in part because of his response to the pandemic, but especially because of his response to the black lives matter movement. take a listen to how katie views the trump campaign's messaging, the law and order messaging targeting suburban moms like her. >> we aren't, you know, suburban moms. we aren't 1950s housewives anymore. and to make us think that we're going to be, you know, defund the police thing, we're going to all of a sudden be overrun by all these bad people is ludicrous. >> chris, i have watched katie grow more and more frustrated over the last several months. yesterday, she told me she can't wait for november so, quote, this nightmare can be over. so quite the journey there for katey. chris. >> so for her, and for the other people who you have been following on this journey essentially, are they 100% going to vote for biden? are some of them still conflicted? might they stay home? what are they telling you?

>> reporter: katey is all in on biden now. hal and jerry, on the other hand, the other two voters, they say the vp pick could be make or break for them. hal will still most likely vote for biden. he's really leaning towards him, unless he makes a pick that hal finds too radical, say an elizabeth warren. jerry says he might not be making that decision until the day he votes, chris. >> so interesting. dasha burns, thank you so much, in michigan. >> that's going to wrap up this hour for me. i'll see you rights back here tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern. my colleague katy tur picks up our coverage right after this quick break. quick break. gimme two minutes. and i'll tell you some important things to know about medicare. first, it doesn't pay for everything. say this pizza... [mmm pizza...] is your part b medical expenses. this much - about 80 percent... medicare will pay for. what's left... this slice here... well... that's on you. and that's where an

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good afternoon. i'm katy tur. it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east. breaking news out of ohio. governor mike dewine tested positive for coronavirus. dewine only took a test because he was supposed to greet the president when he arrived in ohio today. we're going to be there in just a moment. this afternoon, before he left the white house, the president reaffirmed to reporters that he believes a vaccine will be ready as early as election day. >> a vaccine could be ready by october 3rd. are you optimistic? >> i am. i'm optimistic it will probably be around that date. i believe we'll have the vaccine before the e