cal adds to the call to defund these programs and move it toward community care and systems that help and heal the community so we don't have to continue seeing these problems and talking about these and we can get to the other issues that are important in lifting people up. >> very important. i hope this dialogue continues. thank you. that's the beat for tonight. the reid out starts now. deaths from the coronavirus have already reached frightening levels but a new model predicts as many as 300,000 americans could be dead by december.

the economic recovery is sputtering. there's no deal between congress and the white house. mitch mcconnell seems casual about that. he's tweeting things but not taking ak. it's against that backdrop that we got word tonight that donald trump will hold a news conference from his golf club in new jersey in minute now where he's taking a nice long weekend. he's been threatening an executive action to address covid relief but it's unclear what he can do without congressional approval. millions are struggling to pay their rent or buy food for their families after federal unploim benefits and rent relief expired last week. on tovp that, today's disappointing july jobs report shows whatever marginal recovery we have seen in the economy up now has lost its momentum.

i do want to start with associated press white house reporter. this was a last minute call that donald trump was going to take time off the tee to talk to the nation. do we know what he's going to be talking about? >> hi. i'm coming to you from the president's golf course in new jersey and this came as a surprise. earlier today the white house issued what is known as a travel photo lid to the press pool that travels with the president. we would not see him today. it's very rare for that to be lifted. that happened a short time ago. we're now asesembled waiting fo this news conference. he said he will be talking about the china virus. he announced good economic numbers, improving economy and also the beirut lebanon. he's not saying in this tweet whether or not he will act on

the stalled congressional negotiations for covid relief but the white house and his aides have some executives orders that are being prepared. it's possible he will sign that tonight. we expect he will be asked about the report about foreign election interference. >> sure, of course. the new york times is reported that donald trump has been on the sidelines. just sniping, tweeting, doing things like that. not really involved in the negotiations with the congress. you've seen mitch mcconnell taking weeks off and saying we're going to send people home. what could the white house even do in a theoretical executive order? it's congress that appropriates money. do you have any idea what kind of executive order they think they could do? >> reporter: they floated a few. one a moratorium on evictions. one on unemployment insurance. one on the payroll tax. another on student loans. some of those are unclear from the financial weight is unclear.

they realize with congressional talks stalled and the economic recovery with a lack of federal funding that would be bad for the president's re-election chances. we're in the ballroom adjacent to where the president will be. a few dozen members of the country club, many with drinks in hands just went to the stairs and now appear to be the audience for the news conference. a few dozen members of the country club, i will add, very few of them wearing masks and in violation of the state of new jersey guidelines right now about the number of people who can be in an indoor space at one time will be here cheering the president on. >> i'm sorry, i'm sorry. i apologize. i'm going to ask you to repeat that again. did you just say that members of

the country club, meaning people who paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to be members of the country club are assembling to play the audience so that he can have a cheering audience for this press conference? >> reporter: that is what it appears. it's possible that they will leave the room before the president takes the podium but it seems unlikely. they are gathered now. there's several dozens of them standing in the back of the room. a number of them have drinks in their hands. very few with masks and i should note, as there's been much scrutiny on the white house, covid testing system, that those temperature checks were formed on the press pool and the audience members, covid-19 tests br not administered before this news conference. >> the people who have not been tested, people who are having their cocktails in hand. we don't know what's in their drinks. they have beverages. think are coming in, not getting tested and they're not getting

rapid tested and they will be the audience. that's bizarre. have you seen anything like that in presidential news conference in your career as a journalist? >> reporter: the president has used members of my club before as backdrops but this would be a new one for a coronavirus task force and not seen something like this since the pandemic began with all of the federal government guidelines on social distancing and masks which appear to not be in place this evening here in new jersey. >> wow. okay okay. have you had a chance to speak with anybody on the white house press corps to get details on whether or not donald trump will address the fact that russia is trying to help him remain in the presidency, to become president a second time? >> reporter: the white house did put out a statement earlier today from the national security council noting that the course that they said they have taken measures to reduce that and they

highlight agents said not going to be not just russia trying to help president trump by denigrating joe biden but china and iran expressed efforts to defeat president trump. both seem to have help from various foreign nations. the trump campaign put out statement as well. the president has not weighed in. he's not tweeted about that yet. it's not clear whether he will address it this evening or not. we will attempt to ask him. >> i would love to ask whether he has anything to say about russia taking out those bounties on american troops. would love to get an answer to that and what he thinks of the fact that the district attorney in manhattan now has access to his deutsche bank financial records. would love to get a question in . if i can ringer in a question.

thank you very much. i'll let you get in there with the folk who is are having cocktai cocktails. thank you very much. let's bring in, i believe we do have jennifer, maria. we may have jonathan. let's bring every one in now. let's go through this in order. jennifer, let me go to you first. your thoughts on the fact the president of the united states has assembled a fan club of his members of his golf club. sure it's quite expensive to join this golf club without masks onto be the audience so he can have applause during a press conference. he scrambled the press corps to do. your thoughts, jennifer. >> they wonder why they are losing an election. there are 10% of americans are unempl unemployed. 160,000 are dead and he's going

to come to us from his private country club where sitting around will be multimillionaire who is have spent, as you said, hundreds of thousands of dollars to have access to the president. this is supposed the explain how he is passionate and in touch with the american people. this seems like a terrible idea from their own self standpoint. perhaps he will stay something different but the optics are miserable. >> maria, can you speak to what's happening in the real world? the world that trump doesn't visit. what's happening in the term of the plight of the latino community and places like the bronx. what is happening on the ground in terms of covid and the impact it's having and the fact kids are now going to be going back

to school in new york city, despite it. >> here's the thing. i'm taking week off. a week off for journalists doesn't mean you take a week off but i had to go to the dentist. my dentist is in new jersey. he's african-american. when i went to see him and he was working on my mouth, that's when he tolds me, you know, norma died. she's the receptionist who has been with him forever. african-american woman, over 75. her husband died on monday. on tuesday i went to the dry cleaners. also hasn't been back since january. i pick up my winter clothes and i know the tailor, the dominican tailor, he died. that is what it's like for those of us who are on the ground every single week. you pick up the phone. this person died. you receive a text or an e-mail. what's amazing is to think there are people in new jersey, a

stones throw from where i am right now in harlem who are living in another world. literally another bubble where they may be know no one who has died or if someone has died, they feel like it was a worker. obviously, at that country club, i would love to ask jonathan to tell me who is working at that country club right now. who is serving those drinks? who is walking around and tending to those people? i would tend to think they are lat latinos and african-americans, mostly. this is what we know. we have been keeping this economy sputtering but alive. clearly, there's a complete disconnect. my whats app feed is on fire having this discuss about kids unsafe going to school and wanting their children, like my grown kids, to have a sense of socialization and learning.

where is the creativity? can we think about amazing possibilities to teach kids in a classroom that doesn't have to be 30. this is supposed to be kaun tri of brilliant ideas. we can't think any better than this because this man is golfing. i'm livid. >> yeah. dr. redliner, let's talk about that. if you have these well heeled members of the trump golf club who are walking around sipping their cocktail, sipping drinks, beverages not wearing masks. they are coming in to cheer donald trump. that's what he needs, applause. what does that do and how does that impact the people who are actually working? they are not getting those drinks themselves. they are not pouring their over beverages. what about the people working, cleaning, the people who are serving and donald trump has used people who are undocumented to do that. he didn't have a problem with undocumented labor in his own

clubs. how much risk would they be in being around people like that in. >> of course. first of all, i haven't been tested as you pointed out earlier. they have not been tested. we don't know what their status is neither the guests or workers in the resort. the whole optics of this is so demoralizing. i feel myself, personally, downhearted just hearing about what's going on down there. it's beyond disconnected. the entire country on the verge of having to make the most agonizing decision we had to deal with is are we sending our children back to school. will we will learning remotely. we have millions of children who live in or near poverty who may not have internet access for the hardware or the mentors to help them to do remote learning. we have a tremendous challenge ahead of us.

we're putting children back in school. we're not ready. parents are literally in agony and we have these guys making believe that literally on another planet. completely disconnected. you can imagine how disheartening this is for everybody who is involved in this. >> then the image of the president of the united states at a golf club. what imagery, what message other than let them eat cake? let them eat covid is he sending by doing this? we'll take in quick break because we don't know how long it will take before he gets up on the well heeled po eed podiu we're paying for. we're also going to talk about the fact that putin and his pals are back. we'll talk about that. trump's own intel officials say russia is once again working to get him reelected. we're going to come back after this break. perhaps we'll see donald trump talk or we'll move on with these other topics.

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my guests joining us, congressman, i want to get your comment on the fact that the president of the united states is at his golf club about to give a press conference. he says on lebanon and emergency orders he wants to do regarding relief, et cetera. doing it with his very wealthy, well heeled, members of his golf club as an audience unmasked to clap for him. >> the president should be at the white house, not only are we in the midst of pandemic, an economy that continues to slow, the deal. we just learned today from the director of national intelligence that the russians seek again to interfere with a preferred candidate in donald

trump and tear down joe biden. he needs to be addressing the nation, if he's going to do that, from the white house. not with his country club friends. that's inappropriate and it shows the unseriousness that he brings to all of these matters. >> what do you make of the fact there's this other information about iran and china. do you worry that's being included in order to get it past donald trump. have something in there so people say there are countries helping biden. that is something that sort of sprang to mind when i heard they are talking not about just about russia but these other countries. am i being too pair noranoid ab that? >> there's only one country that has a preferred candidate they are willing to help and the assessment is that russia is

trying to help donald trump and to tear down joe biden. for the director of national intelligence to conflat all of these threats would be like the weather forecast leading with a snowstorm in the rockies and a lightning strike in the midwest and at the bottom of the hour saying a category 5 hurricane is going to hit the east coast. they are truly trying to conflate the threats to protect the president. the president should condemn what russia is doing. two, devote every resource we have to stop them and to work with democrats and republicans in the congress to put tougher sanctions on russia until they change their behavior. >> i want to let the audience know as you're listening to congressman swalwell are the members. i would love to reporter to ask them how much they paid. how much it cost them to be members of the trump golf club. some of them have on masks. the wiser ones. others do not. they are standing in the back and they are cargo shorts and

looking like they're having a grand old time. they will watch the president's speech. i don't know that you needed an audience to do a press conference like this. i want to keep you here. i've got to get maria for a moment. i want to hear your thoughts looking at this. >> well, you saw what just happened. somebody walked out and started giving out masks because there were so many people who were not wearing masks. i think brought them out on a tray, those paper masks. that's when people started putting them on. now most of the people are wearing them. i was horrified to see a child. an unmasked child in that group and it's just like how could you expose a child to that? it's all very, very strange. it's also very, we can see it. it's very white. it's very much men. now, i don't golf, joy. i know you and i never had a meeting on a golf course because

i don't know how you and i would feel hanging around in this particular golf course. i think we might stick out like a sore thumb. what do you think? >> i think we would not. we would not fit in. congressman, i want to bring you back in here. i have to get your thoughts on this. as somebody who is answerable to the people, to constituents in this country. this is shocking to me. this is not a press conference. this is not the president of the united states holding a press conference to talk to the american people. what i see right here is a rich, entitled person showing off his golf club with his members who paid a lot of money to sitz there and having what he is saying a press conference and making the white house press corps stand there and pretend they are in press conference with him when it looks like it's another rally with press attending. i don't mean to rant. i want to let you talk about what you're seeing. >> there are a lot of people

struggling tonight as you and i talk and as the president addresses the country but they're not in that room. earlier this week in my congressional district in hayward, california pass out meals at a drive through food bank and the faces i saw are people who are hungry. they are about to be evicted. they are out of work and need a president who understands that and the president isn't going to learn a thing from anyone who is at his country club right now. he needs to be concerned about evictions. he needs to be concerned about the deal that he needs to strike on the heroes act that speaker pelosi who is at the capitol. she's at the capitol trying to get a deal to help millions of american who is run hi grungry the president is addressing the country club crowd. >> yeah. it's shocking. people are literally not able to pay their rent. we're past the first of the month. people have not gotten rent relief. people have run out of the extra unemployment benefit.

that$600 that lindsey graham and others are compla complaining about. people are suffering and they are at a country club. i don't know what else to stay. please stay with us. i want to keep you here and brink in frank. former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence. with all of that happening, we're going to come off of that whatever that was. that's not a press conference. if he does a real conference, we'll be happy to take it. we don't nope what that is. we're going to stay with our guests right now. frank, we know that russia is doing it again. they are trying to add china and iran. do you take it seriously, the other two countries being added to it in order to balance it out or do we still need focus on russia? >> the answer is yes, all of the above. we need to take china and iran very seriously. let me assure you of one thing. if china decided to act

maliciously in the election, they would make russia look like the junior varsity. we need to focus on russia because they have a track record of being willing to break our laws and interfere and meddle in our democratic election process. as the president is at his country club on a friday night, america is under assault. every one i'm talking to in the intelligence tells me they are almost in a war like posture. this is almost a post- 9/11 response where they were playing whack-a-mole with the al qaeda websites chat rooms and blogs. then the dilemma of what you do. if you take down the sites, you think are atributable to a country, you lose insight. you don't wrap up an entire cell or network. some of whom might be operating here in this country. if you come out and say, look at this tweet. this is a chinese intelligence service tweet, you might get it

wrong because ie roran is posin china and china is posing as russia and so on. it gets very complicated. i know this, we need more transparen transparency. we need to get weekly berea lly. my friends are saying the career professionals want to issue weekly briefings. much like we started to see so that americans who can become far more informed. what is the great concern? their political masters will be twisting, shaping and constraining the message and that's the fear. the equivalency that china likes biden, therefore it's all balanced out is a very, very troubling misleading dangerous presumption because russia is actually destroying and intervening and hacking and sending out social media propaganda where it appears china is saying we really think trump might need to go. >> right.

saying he's unstable. they are making statements saying he's unstable. no kidding. there's a lot of americans who believer he's unstable. at this point, we have people staying home and spending a lot of time on social media. a lot of time on these plats fo -- platforms. people are more vulnerable because what else are you doing. you're home and on these platforms. we did see facebook have to take down some platforms where people were pretending to be black people who opposed biden. all of this sort of fakery we dipds s did see happening. is there anything people can do to protect themselves and the younger voters from that propaganda that's being created by foreign countries but pretending to be americans. >> we need to limit our time on social media. number two, limit what you're

viewing to only the trusted sources that have be the go to sources for you. if something in your gut feels badly about the credibility of a source, you're probably right. then you need to understand that everything possible is being done secretly in the ci world and the intel world and more than ever before there's a dialogue with the silicon valley platform providers. you're seeing sites being taken down because there is that interaction occurring like never before where the government is saying look over here. this looks russian. this looks iranian. this looks north korean and you're seeing the sites come down. things are happening behind the scenes. we need more transparency and we need to push back when we see political masters like the attorney general or the dni trying to protect the president. let the pros do their job and we're going to elect our own president. if we get it wrong, someone else will make that choice for us. >> this is terrifying. as if we didn't have enough to

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convention. i've gone through it. it's been very orderly. every one of the women we've ber viewed is qualified. i've narrowed it down. >> it is the biggest question being asked right now in this year's presidential contest. who is joe biden going to pick as his running ma inning mate a important, what's the hold up? at one point he said he would make his decision by tend of this week. here we are going into the weekend still in suspense. he has a powerful bench to pick from. with each passing day there are new headlines speculating about who the choice might be. the wall street is reporting that susan rice has sold a significant amount of stock in netflix where she sits on the board of directors. as the new york times points out as the process as stretched out, each day has brought intensive lobbying, uncertainty for the contenders and visible factions. for more, i'm joined by james carville, former rnc chair

michael steel. james, you've been through this ringer before. have you ever seen anything like this? the back biting, behind the scenes drama. have you seen anything like this? >> it's politics. i'm taking my guidance from congressman clyburn. anybody he picked so far, he's got any number of tremendously qualified people. those guys at work for or people that work with these various candidates are leaking and setting this up. that's the nature of politics. you can't take the politics out of politics. it's just what it is. he'll make a wise, judicious choice and somebody he will be comfortable with and somebody i'll be 100% behind.

it's his right to make that choice. >> do you think it's been problematic for people to be out there, at least it looks like trashing one of the candidate choices who a lot of people really like and would like to see on the ticket and sort of sniping at her to be point where you had valerie jerrett put out tweet saying we're going to stand behind these women. pitting these black women against each other at a time when biden needs to have the kind of african-american turn out that barack obama had in order to win the election. this isn't helpful. >> maybe senator dodd could have been more judicious but i don't think we can blow this up too much too. some of these women are leaking on each other. that's politics. everybody is mixing it up a bit. i think joe biden has been around american politics for few years. he probably understands this.

we're getting away from the central. it's somebody we can get excited about. i'll be following jim through election day. >> all right. we're going to veer off a tiny bit. we don't want to do too much trump talk. producers are telling me that donald trump walked out to "hail to the chief" to his golf club where his golf members and i'd love to know how much it cost to join this particular golf club in new jersey, cheered for him. that's the optics they have put forward. michael steel, if you're still rnc chair, would it be maloxxatt this point or a strong cocktail. >> they would have fired my behind six months ago. i wouldn't been in the room. >> they couldn't have kept the

black guy. are you kidding? >> it is what it is. this is what trump is going to be doing. there's more of this to come, people. come on, just, put the cartoon face on and move on. this is just what it is. this is real tv presidential politics being played out every night at this hour. it's staged. it's not real. the audience is sort of trucked in. they know what they are supposed to do. they are going to do it. trump's going to stand there. he's going to feel good after this. that's what this is all about, making him feel good. why? because everything else makes him feel bad. the covid number, the number of death, the number of infections. the reality of the economy. yes today was a good day for a lot of folks who got jobs, but still 10% unemployment. the civil unrest that's rife across the country where a lot of people that donald trump would thought would stand with

him are standing against him and the position he's taken on the death of george floyd, the response to the civil unrest. all of that. yeah, let the boy have his moment. let him have his time with his friends. let him just feel all chuck e. cheese si and move on. the rest of us will move on. >> you sound like a kindly day care center owner talking about a toddler having a tantrum. >> that's what this is. >> jennifer, on a very serious note. joe biden is -- he's in this now where you have, as michael steel just described, the circus that's happening in new jersey right now and in washington. chaos in d.c. where they cannot reach a deal. mitch mcconnell doesn't seem to really care. joe biden, for all his little hiccups and gaffes is the person people are clinging to as like a

life raft to the isle of sanity. i wonder if you think that the chaos around the v.p. pick detracts from the pick he's the warm fuzzy blanket that we can throw over ourselves. >> i think people around biden have done him no favors. i'm going to differ with james on this and they are playing and replaying the same troep that really hits women that they are too ambitious. they have offended men. only a certain type of woman can be chosen for an important position. that is going to stick in the craw of a lot of women. they will probably vote for him but he should have the presence of mind to tell these people to shut the heck up. you've seen some effort from the campaign. you saw a letter from a whole slew of prom innocent women, women's groups saying you are part of the problem. you're fanning this same

atmosphere of really taking what would be an attribute for man and making this into a negative for a woman. in terms of biden, he should set up a camera there and use this footage for his next ad. i'm sure the lincoln project folks will because this is to terrible. it's such a picture of exclusion. are there any women at these clubs? i saw one gentleman of color and that was about it. these kind of punchy, middle-aged men, mostly white, all very rich in their golf shorts sitting around, yucking it up. what is he thinking? biden is going to have a field day with this. i do think it conveys something else which is i'm not sure that trump is trying to still win the presidency. i think this is now about self-care and making himself feel bigger and better. i cannot imagine that anybody on that campaign would have encouraged this or would have thought this is a good idea and

republicans should be scared silly because as he goes down the tube and throws away women, throws away my noor nor is, throws away young people but snats is going to collapse for them and down the ticket whether it's senate, house races is all going to cascade down and the fact this guy is behaving like the multimillionaire -- we don't know how much he's worth but playing the part of a multimillionaire is not only going to reflect him but reflect on the whole party which people plooef believe is party of rich white men. listen to what think are doing at the time when republicans say $600 is too much. these people are too lazy. lazy might be staying at a country club and playing golf all day. that doesn't register with them. these people are so afraid of and i think completely out of touch with american people that it doesn't dawn on them this will be highly offensive at a

time people are looking at evictions, state and local employees are facing layoffs without aid. we have a 160,000 dead americans. these guys are sitting there yucking it up. is it any wonder that he isn't succeeding as president? he doesn't get it. he doesn't realize he's president of this country of 350 million people. most of them don't look and don't act and don't have the bank account that his buddies do. >> yeah. he's the president of that country club. i guess we should be glad that bill didn't close the bridges on the way into new jersey. his campaign manager. we do remember he was from bridge gate. >> joy. >> my guests are staying with me. we'll be back after a quick break. me we'll be back after a quick eak. - hey, can i... - safe drivers save 40%!!! guys! guys! safe drivers save 40%!!! safe drivers save 40%! safe drivers save 40%!!! that's safe drivers save 40%. it is, that's safe drivers save 40%. - he's right there. - it's him! safe drivers do save 40%.

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back with me. the news so far, trump says unemployment benefits will be extended till the end of the year and he will defer student loan payments. i want to throw that out to you guys. i don't know if any of you know if the president has the power to do any of that. anybody who has the answer. >> he doesn't. >> i don't know what he thinks he's doing or where he's getting the money from. this is why congress has been negotiating. if he could do this, why did he have people go off unemployment, the unemployment subsidy in first place if he could do this all along in is posturing and nuts and leading people on in the most cynical fashion and when the money doesn't come, who are they going to blame? it's not going to be the democrats. it's going to be trump. >> james, the obsession that donald trump has had with gutting the payroll tax which funds social security, his base is a lot of people who are

seniors. what is this about and why does he think -- i don't understand how he thinks that's good politics. >> first of all, it's not very good policy. if you pay the payroll tax, it means you're on payroll. okay. we have all kinds of people in this country that would like to be on payroll and are not. i mean, it's just from a stand point, i'm not a policy person but people are hurting out there. over 10% unemployment in this country. people are cooped up in houses. they're getting evicted. he has no idea of what he's talking about. he has no idea of policy and the fact that he's playing golf is like the 100th most offensive thing he's done since he's been president. he doesn't even know. he's out there in yosemite or two corinthians or whatever he

goes. we have to stop acting like he's a serious human being because he's not. he doesn't nknow what he's doin. he really doesn't. i'm sorry. >> i think that's clear. i think that's very clear. michael steel, please psychoanalyze the republicans. mitch mcconnell has to get reelected. he's up 13 or 5 oiver his o opponent. the appearance is that republicans don't care whether people are starving and getting evicted and whether they are hungry. they don't seem to care. they are complaining that the poors might get an extra $600 because they're so greedy. they want 600 more dollars. these people have $6 million. i don't know how they think this gets cory gardener reelected. i don't understand the strategy on the republican side.

do you? >> no. i don't think a lot of frustrato have been trying to bring political common sense to the narrative to sort of help folks understand what the numbers are really saying. what the american people are really telling republicans right now is this is not just any longer about donald trump. this is also about you and your leadership and your governance of this country. your inabilities to understand what you just described. 600 people who are taking $600 a week are barely making it and for some people, that may be more than they made before this but you really think that people are believing this will be their income going forward. i mean there's nobody who has a job who doesn't want to go back to work because i'm getting $600 a week from the government. the fact you insult the

intelligence of the american people with that line of reasoning when you give -- the government and you're authorized a $750 million paycheck to kodak and within 24 hours the hours like making $200 million and you're whining about the fact that a citizen of the country just took a $600 check from the government? so this is the problem. and i told you a week ago, j joe -- i'm blanking. i'm sorry. >> joy. >> i told you a week ago, joy -- i was about to say joe. where we were, under donald trump's left cheek. they don't see what's going on in the country right now. that's the unfortunate part. not for the country because we know what we're going to do in november. it's for them and they don't see it.

james, it almost seems like fate put joe biden in this moment. it would have to be the guy that road the amtrak home as a united states senator and someone who can actually relate to people who ride in an amtrak and who maybe don't sit in first class. he actually seems to have hit a fortuitous time because even his gaffes don't seem to matter. he won't be in a country club with $200,000 members applauding for him. is that the bottom line here for biden? >> he's led a life. he's had real tragedy, real experience in his life. he's lived in his community, all right? he's a very experienced, human, humble person, who is exactly what we need now. by the way, every politician

says dumb things. his gaffes i don't think are really gaffes, to tell you the truth. trump is sitting there with jonathan swain talking about it is what it is, couldn't answer a question and biden says something to the hispanic and black journalist, makes an observation that there are cultural distinctions. i don't know. everybody covers that. i mean, i think he's doing just fine. he's got the right kind of experience. he'll do fine. he wants to be comfortable with diversity. he's making a big decision. there is no reason for him to hurry the decision. the press can wait a few more days. it's not going to kill us. >> what might kill us is stress, though, because watching all of this stuff happen is something else. james carville, michael steele, jennifer rue bin, really

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got a pulitzer prize. but here's the thing. the rock from slavery and its aftermath are still with us in a thousand different ways. take louisiana where slavery was established and maintained by european colonizers. first the french and then the spanish. after that, after the vast louisiana purchase by slave holder thomas jefferson by the americans. after slivery all across the american south, laws were put in place to try to control the movement of the former property. these included so-called pig laws, which imposed barbaric sentences for what amounted to poverty crimes, petty theft of food or crops by people who emerged from slavely oftentimes often impoverished, landless and hungry. as "the washington post" points

out, the pig laws allowed states to sentence people to forced labor. and under these laws, the black prison population in the deep south exploded starting in the 1980s. blacks were incarcerated in the notorious former louisiana plantation called angola which due to its use as prison labor is essentially the largest working plantation in america today. taking advantage of a loop hope in the 13th amendment that banned slave labor except for those who are incarcerated as this incredible film points out. fast forward to january 5th in 1997. bryant was arrested by police. he was accused of stealing a pair of hedge clippers from a carport storeroom. he was convicted and sentenced to life at angola prison. he was 38 years old. mr. bryant filed appeals which this week wound up in the

louisiana supreme court which upheld his life sentence by a vote of 6-1. all six justices who ruled against mr. bryant are white. the lone black judge, the state's first black chief justice ber net johnson in a stinging discent called it a modern man fess case of the big laws largely designed to re-enslave. it allowed prosecutors to seek harsher sentences for lesser crimes if a defendant has previous convictions. more than 8 in 10 people incarcerated under these laws are black. as the judge pointed out, mr. bryant has already spent nearly 23 years in prison and is now over 60 years old. if he lives another 20 years, louisiana taxpayers will have paid almost $1 million to punish mr. bryant for his failed effort to steal a set of hedge

clippers. that's tonight's reid out. early voting is already underway in florida. this sunday is souls to the polls day in that state, a major effort to get voters to turn in their major ballots or get to the in person voting locations to drop them off. no matter which state you are in, please make sure that you register and vote. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in," trump 2020, it's gone from keep america great to hey, everybody, joe hates god. out of the campaign to re-elect the president, come to this. then as trump calls a press conference in the 19th hole, the human toll of the failure to pass any real coronavirus relief. plus, the head of the postal workers union on the plot to demolish the post office before election day. and the cult of trump rides to