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role of muse to jerry the poet. >> she isn't a dream. she is as real as can be. i knew it the moment her wings covered me. she flew from afar and awakened new sight, and only i see her, my angel of light." i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." this was an insane world i was living in. i did what i had to do. >> what if you were ripped away from your family? >> you live in fear. it changes you. >> kidnapped by a killer. >> i came out of that just really messed up. >> held for years as a prisoner. and what if prosecutors never believe you? >> bobbi parker was not the
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woman that she was portraying herself. >> absolutely not. >> it's a mystery with a mind-boggling twist. this wife and mom taken hostage. was she really a hostage at all? >> their relationship was not one of kidnapper and victim. it was one of husband and wife. >> his prisoner or his lover? >> i really do love you. sounds like a pretty heartfelt love letter. >> in this hour she shares her side of the story. will you believe her? >> i was fighting for my life. hello and welcome to "dateline." i'm craig melvin. bobbi parker was a wife, a
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teachere teacher teacher, leading a beautiful like in oklahoma. schenn she said she was kidnapped, taken hostage by a dangerous inmate and forced to live on the land, but her story left investigators wondering, was bobbi parker a woman held captive or was she a woman in love? on april 4th, 205, a texas county sheriff near the louisiana border heard there might be a fugitive in his area. >> i received a telephone call from a local texas ranger. >> the call led sheriff newton johnson and his deputies 65 miles from the nearest big city to a rundown mobile home on a chicken farm. the home of a couple calling themselves richard and samantha deal. >> if you wanted to hide, is this a good place to do it? >> well, if a person keeps a very low profile, a person could stay out of circulation for a while, yes.
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>> but the deals had been farmhands here for five years until the law descended on their home. >> what did you say? >> i knew you were coming. i just didn't know when. >> agents found mrs. deal working on another farm just down the road. what shape did she seem to be in? >> fine. >> the men were placed in handcuffs, a routine arrest. it turned out the rest of the story was anything but. that's because richard and samantha deal were not husband and wife at all but instead the oddest of odd couples. his real name was randolph dial, an escaped convict and self-confessed hitman, claimed to have mob connections, and who also happened to be a talented artist and a relentless schemer. >> the whole idea after you get to prison is one way or another, do your very best to get out. >> and the woman? her real name was bobbi parker,
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a schoolteacher, the wife of the deputy warden at the prison where he had escaped. bobbi's friend, brenda hickerson -- >> she was an amazing person. she had her life with her family. she volunteered everywhere, at school. >> what kept these two together for more than a decade was a sensational mystery back in 2005. >> for years the woman's husband never gave up hope. >> escaped prisoner randolph dial -- >> a woman missing for more than a decade suddenly discovered -- >> everyone was talking. was it a prison break and kidnapping? was bobbi parker a hostage? >> there was no doubt in my mind that she had been kidnapped by this man. >> or was bobbi dial a partner in crime and maybe much more than that? >> i said, are you all right? she said, yes, i'm fine, i'm happy.
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>> nothing made sense, nothing. >> if you had to pick a woman to star in a sensational true crimes story, you probably wouldn't pick bobbi parker. >> i grew up on a farm in north central kansas. i had a normal childhood. for me it was just a very normal upbringing. >> bobbi went to college just over the border in oklahoma. that's where she caught the eye of randy parker. >> the way she talked, the way she laughed, there was just something special about her. >> he had a balance in his life. he was good for me. he gave me confidence. >> they married in 1982 and within four years had two little girls. bobbi was a teacher and randy worked in corrections. at one point they worked in the same prison. randy in administration and bobbi teaching inmates with special needs. >> beginning of the day we walked in together. at the end of the day we walked out together. >> bobbi was named teacher of the year, and randy moved up the ranks quickly. in 1992 he was
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>> what was life like in granite? >> it slowed down for me and my family a little bit. but it was -- it was good. >> if there wasn't much happening in granite, inside the prison it was the opposite. there was a new warden determined to shake things up. his name? jack cowley. >> i didn't set behind my desk a lot. i was out in the yard with the guys. i let inmates call me jack. >> and one inmate that got cowley's attention, randolph dial. >> he was an unforgettable character. intelligent, manipulative, a quick study, meaning that i wasn't going to have any trouble with him. so we hit it off. >> dial of one of the most illustrious and infamous inmates in oklahoma back then. a murderer who confessed to killing a karate instructor for money. >> told me to get off of his property. and i pulled a piece out and
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fired once. >> yet dial was also an accomplished artist. one of his pieces was featured on the set of the old series "dallas." >> he had all these plans plan wanting to do something with his art. i wanted to promote the institution in inmates. >> the warden decided to start an art program where inmates would make pottery to. is dial would run it from the ie parkers' garage. in order to do this, he would have to be allowed -- >> -- outside the wall. >> in order to do that, he had to have his security clear an lowered to minimum security status. ar a >> right. right. >> what did you know about him? >> i knew that he was a murderer. he made that clear to everybody. >> he was said to be very
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charming, charismatic. >> i'm not sure who put that out. >> you didn't find him charming or charismatic? >> no. >> with time on her hands, bobbi helped sell pottery and learned ceramics. >> he started in the garage. i told him i would prefer it out front. >> why did you not want to learn it in the garage? >> i wasn't comfortable. >> with him?bo >> yes.wao saidchure im cat gare it's never good to be one on one with an inmate. it never is. >> nevertheless, she once drove dial into town by herself to el meet shopkeepers. a trip she says was okayed by warden cowley. did it strike you as odd that you were given permission to take a convicted murderer off the prison grounds? >> yes, yes.u asen pvi >> not long after that, one hot august morning, bobbi parker's life turned upside down.ning >> i just remember being woozy, not feeling good, thinking i wah going to be sick, and then it was shortly later that dial was in front of me. >> dial, the convicted murderer, was in her home.e. >> i remember thinking what are you doing in here, but then it e happened so quickly.
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he was there holding me up, and then my legs went out from under me. >> the next thing bobbi says she remembers is waking up and -- well, it doesn't make a lot of sense. she was somehow driving bbi wae somewhere in texas. she says dial was crouched on the floor, pointing a knife at her. >> i had blood on my arm and on my leg. ouching at evening, bobbi's husband randy and the whole prison began to realize bobbi was missing along with convicted killer randolph dial. what did you imagine had happened?dolp >> everything from her being kidnapped to her being killed. everything that was bad. >> had bobbi parker been kidnapped? she takes us inside her decade-long drama. coming up -- mi >> itng messes with you mentall >> when "dateline" continues.atl s but she still pays too much.
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nothing made sense in the environment that i lived in, in the world i lived in. in was insanity. >> on august 30th, 194, bobbi parker, wife of the deputy warden at a prison in oklahoma, said she found herself in texas with a convicted killer. randolph dial, serving a life sentence, had broken out of
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prison and escaped in the parker van and he took bobbi with him. she says she's not sure how it happened. that he may have drugged her. and he had a knife. >> i just remember at some point there was blood on me. blood on my arm, on my leg. and dial wanted to get those covered. he took me to a store, bought a few items, and i was able to make a phone call. >> later, some would find it odd bobbi called her mother, not her husband at the prison. she says she was happy to be calling anyone. >> making a phone call to me was a good thing because i was hoping it could be traced. >> back in granite, bobbi's husband randy was coming to terms with the fact that his wife was missing and so was a convicted murderer. >> it's just mind-numbing, just to get through the day. you know, make sure the girls are doing okay. >> the parker girls were 8 and 11. >> i just told them the truth. she's missing. she's gone. they were devastated.
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>> the community was devastated. yellow ribbons, prayer vigils, and a huge manhunt ensued. dial was on the most wanted list. meanwhile bobbi said she was in a texas motel at the mercy of randolph dial. >> he bound my wrists. he bound my ankles. and he beat me with a -- his belt. it was a very severe beating. very severe. what i remember him saying is, this is nothing compared to what the people i know can and will do to you. >> what did he say he would do if you tried to get away? >> he would find me or my family and he would harm them, kill them. >> by this time they ditched her van. she says dial, who claimed to have mob connections, managed to get ahold of some cash and a gun. >> he put it to my head, and he
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said, "this is what happens if you don't cooperate." and i just -- i nodded. i wanted to get home. >> instead, they boarded a bus for houston where she says dial locked her in an abandoned apartment, tied her up, and forced alcohol and drugs on her. >> he has complete control over everything, everything. >> he's feeding you? >> uh-huh. >> bathing you? >> yeah. cleaning me. >> having his way with you sexually when he wants? >> by instrumentation, yes. >> meaning? >> by objects. rape by instrumentation. it is a violent act. it degrades you. it embarrasses you. humiliates you. it messes with you mentally. >> days passed, then weeks, then months. >> time just ran together.
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i didn't know always what day of the week it was. it didn't matter. >> eight months after bobbi's disappearance, in april 1995, the federal building in oklahoma city was bombed. the fbi focused its resources on that case. the hunt for randolph dial and bobbi parker long since cold was quietly back burnered. >> every time i'd hear of a body being found, you know, i'd hold my breath and wait. but i just wouldn't accept she was dead. >> by now, bobbi and dial were working on a small farm in east texas. dial calling himself richard deal and introducing bobbi as his wife samantha. >> to survive i became samantha. >> who was samantha deal? >> she was lonely, hurt. and trying to make it day by day, minute to minute.
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>> when you would approach another human being, did you want to just shout out, i'm being held against my will, get me out of here? >> actually i became fearful if i did something that was not approved, the revenge of dial was great. >> dial seemed ever more confident. in 1997 after three years on the lam, he started a pottery company called terra cotta gardens. >> dial advertised it on the radio, did an interview on the radio. >> unbelievably, the attention led to an invitation for the fugitive killer to speak at a women's luncheon at a local country club. >> near and dear to my heart -- >> where were you while he was out front entertaining the ladies who lunch? >> i was back at the trailer tied up.
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>> from there, dial and bobbi went to work on an industrial chicken farm owned by debra grace. she never doubted they were married, but she could see dial was abusive. >> he was like, i can beat her. she's my wife, i can beat her. i said, no, not on my farm, you can't. i tried to get her to come to the house. she wouldn't go. she kept saying, no, no, no, he wouldn't like that. >> they moved again to another bigger chicken farm. bobbi's daughters were teenagers now. she'd missed five anniversaries with randy. >> there were times that the loneliness was so great that my body would physically ache. >> and she says dial never ceased his campaign of terror, killing two of her dogs to punish her, one right before her eyes. >> he shot the dog. then he blamed me for it. it was maybe just a dog, but to
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me it was family. >> only once, says bobbi, did she openly defy him. dial, artist-turned-killer-turned- fugitive was the subject of a true crime book. he decided to phone the investigator, an ex-cop named charles sasser. >> he said for the past nine years we're making an honest living, living a happy country living. >> he thought it included bobbi parker. but he wanted proof that she was still alive. >> he said, of course, she's still alive. do you want to talk to her? >> i was in bed sleeping. he told me he would put me on the phone. i said, i'm tired, i'm really tired. and reached back here for his gun. i said -- i put my hand up, i said -- he told me, just stick to the questions that he asks you. >> but even with dial right next to her, bobbi says she dared to go off script. after all, sasser was a former detective. this might be her chance. >> i said, have you seen my children?
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i knew i'd probably be beat for it, but sometimes it's worth it. i thought he would say would you like me to make a phone call to them, and he didn't. >> still, she says the conversation filled her with hope. >> i thought the fbi will be here, surely charles sasser will call them and they'll be here. >> sasser did call the fbi, but he didn't know where bobbi and dial were. no one came. bobbi says she was broken, resigned to her fate, and the years dragged on until one day in spring 2005 when her life took another wild turn. coming up, a rescue is in the works, or was it a rescue at all? >> they picked up a lot of
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at a chicken farm near her home. she had no idea the place was surrounded by cops. >> i was greeted with three law enforcement officers in assault gear. >> what's the first thing you told them? >> my name. i actually said my name for the first time in so long. it was a -- a good feeling, but it was the oddest feeling because i had not used bobbi parker for so long. >> an anonymous tipster had called authorities after seeing the long cold case on "american's most wanted." and just like that, bobbi parker was free. >> it was a wonderful feeling. it was -- this is over. this is over. >> randy parker still working for the oklahoma department of corrections was home that night when he got a frantic call from his boss. >> as soon as i picked up the
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phone, he said, i'm coming to get you. and he said, bobbi's been found. all i could think about was getting to texas as soon as we could. >> randy anxiously drove six hours through the dark to east texas while bobbi spent a tearful night in a hotel with then-deputy sheriff donna clayton. >> it was just a mixture of so many different emotions, you know. the fear, the anticipation. but yet, being afraid to get excited, you know, about seeing her husband and family because, you know, what if they didn't want her anymore. >> and, finally, the moment arrived. after more than a decade, husband and wife were reunited in a hotel lobby. >> i just walked up to her and put my arms around her. told her she was going to be okay now. >> it was very natural to see him, to talk to him, to hug him. >> did you see any doubt in his eyes? >> none. none. >> you took her back no questions asked?
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>> there was no taking her back, it was to go get her and bring her back home where she belonged. >> taking her back. you don't like those words. >> no, not for me. >> why not? >> i don't like those wounds. it sounds like i'm doing her a fave when the fact is she's my wife. she's been missing. she's been found finally. and i'm going to go get her and bring her home. >> the following day, bobbi and randy returned to oklahoma. she saw her daughters, little girls when she'd last seen them, now young women, almost 19 and 22. randy says they lowered the shades to keep the world out, to try to heal. did you ask her anything about what she had been through? >> no. no. i told her that we would start today and move forward. >> but he could see that bobbi was different. >> she would say, i'm going to
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get a coke. can i have one? she would say, i'm going to go to the bathroom. is that okay? >> she was still acting like a prisoner? >> yes, she was. >> it certainly seemed like a triumph of survival and love, except for something the sheriff remembered. >> the only thing that i heard her say to mr. dial was, i'm not cooperating, i'm not cooperating. >> not cooperating with the authorities? why would bobbi say that after being kidnapped, raped, and tortured by randolph dial for years? tell dial i'm not cooperating, but what did that mean? >> if it came out in the paper that i was cooperating, i felt like my family would still be in harm. >> so maybe bobbi was still afraid of dial. or maybe she had other reasons for saying she was not cooperating with law enforcement. along with her odd statement, deputies were finding odd things in that trailer.
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>> they picked up a lot of cards and -- like valentine cards, christmas cards, letters -- >> valentines? >> uh-huh. >> which just fueled the suspicions a lot of people had harbored all along. you don't buy the victim narrative on any level. >> not for a minute. >> a whole new ordeal was about to begin. was the victim now a suspect. coming up -- >> oh, my gosh. this cannot be happening. >> -- when "dateline" continues. . huh, boring, boring, you don't need to see that. oh, here we go. can you believe my client steig had never heard of a home and auto bundle or that renters could bundle? wait, you're a lawyer? only licensed in stockholm. what is happening? jamie: anyway, game show, kumite, cinderella story. you know karate? no, alan, i practice muay thai, completely different skillset. shingles doesn't care.
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department. the latest numbers come as jobless benefits and the federal moratorium on evictions expired last month. now back to "dateline." welcome back to "dateline." i'm craig melvin. randy parker had reason to celebrateful his wife bobbi was finally back home. she claimed she had been kidnapped by escaped convict randolph dial. she had been kidnapped or did she go on the run? randolph dial, the convicted killer who busted out of prison, was back behind bars. his hostage, bobbi parker, was reunited with her family after
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more than ten years as dial's captive. it seemed like a happy ending to an incredible story. but from the day bobbi disappeared, some people had doubts about what really happened to her. one of them was her husband's former boss, warden jack cowley. did you suspect bobbi parker had a hand in it right away? >> i was drawn to that conclusion. >> it was cowley, remember, who picked dial to run the pottery program out of the parkers' garage. then one day he now says he was driving by the parker home -- >> and i saw dial and bobbi out on the front porch drinking coffee or tea or something. >> they looked a little bit too cozy? >> right. >> then there were the phone calls from bobbi just after the prison break. she called her mother, and she made two more calls soon after that to a friend and her sister-in-law. but none to her husband. what did you think about that? >> i -- first of all, i thought it was relief. i thought it was good that she was able to make a phone call. i didn't think that she would be calling home because i just
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didn't figure dial would let her. >> maybe randy wasn't suspicious, but plenty of others were, including charles sasser, the former detective who ease written a book on randolph dial. >> dial started off tending the warden's garden. he tended the warden's ceramics shop, and then apparently ended up tending the warden's wife. >> sasser recalled that night in 2001, seven years after the escape, when dial called him and offered to put bobbi on the telephone. >> i said, are you all right? and she says, yes, i'm fine. i'm happy. >> did she sound like she was saying she was happy because a kidnapper was standing next to her? >> she did not sound stressed to me at all. >> according to an oklahoma district attorney, john wampler, that conversation fit a pattern. >> there were just multiple opportunities that she had to make some effort to contact the authorities or to tell somebody that she needed help. how could you be gone from your
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children for 11 years and never contact them? never make an attempt to get away? >> and now as deputies searched the trailer where dial and bobbi had lived, they were finding evidence suggesting that maybe it took so long to find bobbi because she didn't want to be found. >> there were cards, valentine's day cards and thing like that that she had given randolph dial. >> they also developed a roll of film which showed photos of bobbi smiling. hardly the picture of an abused woman being held against her will. and they found this letter to dial in bobbi's handwriting. >> she talked about her love for randolph dial, how much they had enjoyed being together. it certainly spoke volumes about the relationship that they had at that point. >> it wasn't just the letter, it was the circumstances that led to it. bobbi wrote it after dial was hospitalized for a heart attack in 2004. that's right.
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dial had a heart attack and was rushed to the hospital, and bobbi stayed by his side. >> there was just tons of evidence to show that their relationship was more than someone living in fear every day of her life. it was a loving relationship. it was one of husband and wife. i mean, that's basically how they were living down there. >> or so it seemed to investigators who searched their mobile home. >> the trailer house had two bedrooms. but only one of the bedrooms was obviously being used. this were condoms and a vibrator found in one of her drawers. >> and d.a. wamplel said he found evidence that this was not the first time bobbi had been involved with an inmate. one prisoner said he'd had an affair with bobbi at the same prison where she was named teacher of the year. >> in her previous roles at the other institutions, she probably was closer to many of the prisoners than she should have been.
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>> remember how bobbi said she couldn't recall how she and dial left the prison that day? well, an inmate came forward to say he did remember, and bobbi was driving. >> he didn't notice that she was drugged or acting funny. didn't see anything in dial's hand, no knives or anything like that. he saw bobbi driving. he saw her look over at him and -- >> some funny look in her eye? >> yeah. you know, it was kind of a startled look. she looked at him for several seconds, you know, and then drove off. >> why was she in the van at all, the d.a. wondered. dial, he said, didn't need her. >> he had the freedom to roam the prison grounds without anyone checking on him. all he had to do was walk away. >> if detail didn't need bobbi, maybe, d.a. wampler said, it was the reverse.
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>> your feeling was that bobbi parker was not the woman she was portraying herself. >> absolutely not. >> in april 2008 on the third anniversary of bobbi parker's liberation from a texas chicken farm, the district attorney filed felony charges again her for assisting randolph dial's escape from prison. what was your reaction? >> oh, my gosh. this cannot be happening. coming up -- from abducted to accused -- >> did you fall in love with randolph dial? >> -- when "dateline" continues. >> -- when "dateline" continues. . people were afraid i was contagious. i felt gross. it was kind of a shock after i started cosentyx.
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in 2008, three years after being reunited with her family, bobbi parker went from help will hostage to alleged accomplice. she was charged with helping convicted murderer randolph dial break out of prison. >> i didn't know they were still investigating. so the day they brought charges, it was a shock. >> she faced up to ten years in prison. there was talk of a plea deal, but bobbi was adamant. >> i said no plea because i would have to plead guilty to something that i didn't do. >> the case didn't go to trial for another three years. in 2011, the state argued bobbi had plenty of chances over the years to leave dial but didn't because she didn't want it. >> i think bobbi parker perhaps had not a perfect marriage, maybe she was lonely.
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maybe she was susceptible to a nice-looking, very smooth-talking con man like randolph dial. >> at the trial, the state called former detective and author charles sasser who told jurors his take on his 2001 phone call with dial and bobbi. >> she was with him willingly, and they were living this happy country life. you know, almost like idyllic that they're together and happy together. >> that former inmate from years earlier testified about his affair with bobbi. the other inmate in granite said he'd seen bobbi driving during the escape. and randy's former boss, warden jack cowley, testified about his observations that bobbi and dial seemed too cozy. you took the stand for the prosecution. >> uh-huh. >> why? >> because i -- because i thought she's guilty. >> bobbi's attorney, garvin isaacs, put on an impassioned defense. >> i took this case because bobbi parker's an innocent woman
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who's wrongfully accused of a crime she didn't commit. >> isaacs told jurors the state's case was built faulty speculation, outright fabrication, and the suspicious testimony of convicted felons. for instance, that inmate who claimed he'd seen bobbi drive dial off the prison grounds, the defense showed he changed his story multiple times. and the inmate who claimed he'd had an affair with bobbi, the defense proved he was mentally ill, his story, a complete fantasy. >> this is the most outrageous case that i've ever been involved in. it's a great miscarriage of justice. >> the defense couldn't call randolph dial to the stand. dial had died behind bars before bobbi was even charged. instead, her attorney told the jury dial had said or written about 100 times that he kidnapped bobbi parker. >> bobbi did not go with you willingly.
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>> oh, no. no. no. >> okay -- >> no. i was the hostage-taker. and i -- i'll probably live to regret it. >> then the defense tried to put someone else on trial, warden jack cowley. >> jack cowley's an incompetent warden. >> defense attorney isaacs showed the jury a psychological report written about dial three years before the escape. it described dial as dangerous with an extreme talent for manipulation. the report warned against letting dial do his art around women as he would inevitably begin to scheme. >> the head of security told jack cowley you need to read the psychological report, and cowley said to him, you mind your business. i'm running this show. >> the parkers say they never saw the report before cowley put dial's pottery studio in their garage. you didn't have any qualms about randolph dial. >> not one qualm whatsoever.
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>> and it came out in trial years after the escape cowley got two tips about where bobbi and dial were but never told the fbi. >> the way my philosophy was, he's not doing anything wrong in terms of committing other crimes. so they're -- they're living their lives. >> and you were okay with that? >> i was -- i was content with it. >> even though he's a convicted murderer and you're a warden and you get a call that he's out on the streets. bobbi would say he could have helped me. he could have -- >> oh -- >> told this to someone. >> and -- >> maybe i could have been found two years in instead of ten years in. >> maybe that's true. maybe it is my fault. i mean, is that where we're going? >> that may have been where bobbi's lawyer wanted to go, but the warden was not on trial. bobbi was. and she chose not to testify. >> bobbi was not ready. it's too traumatic.
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she's better now. she's better every day. >> so when we interviewed bobbi parker, we asked questions the jurors and countless others who'd wondered if she was a victim or an accomplice wanted to hear. did you fall in love with randolph dial? >> no. no. >> did you help him plan and escape to get out of prison? >> no. >> did you live with him as his lover? >> no. coming up, bobbi parker explains it all. >> i mean, the man is having a heart attack in a hospital. and even then you don't leave. >> when "dateline" continues. n s defies transfer, no excess. infallible up to 24hr fresh wear. by l'oreal paris. they've really stood the test of time. much like these majestic rocky mountains.
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welcome back. bobbi parker was on trial charged with aiding the escape of randolph dial. prosecutors say she fell in love with dial and ran off with him. the defense blamed the victim. bobbi's fate was in the hands of a jury, but she sat down with us to confront the lingering suspicions about her story. here now is the conclusion of "the devil and bobbi parker."
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bobbi parker, the deputy warden's wife. she said she'd been kidnapped, held hostage for more than ten years by an escaped convict. now she was on trial for helping him break out of prison. bobbi did not take the stand but did take our questions. why didn't you just take off? you could have gotten off and -- >> i -- >> -- you could have gotten help. you felt there was no law enforcement agent who would be able to help you? >> no, i didn't feel that way. i knew the consequences of what would happen to me and my family. i knew it. >> you're certain -- >> i had no doubt. that's what people don't understand. i couldn't get past the fear within me, the voice within me. >> couldn't you dash off a letter just letting your family know you were alive? mm-hmm. but i didn't have permission. i had to have permission to do everything. >> at one point he had a heart attack. yes. >> i mean, you understand how that looks, right? the man is having a heart attack in a hospital, and even then you don't leave.
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>> he was still alive. i just couldn't take that chance. i just couldn't do it. >> one of the things that they found where you were living was a letter that you wrote after his heart attack. "we've had a great ride. let us enjoy life, celebrate living for it is so short. god placed me in your path for a reason." >> mm-hmm. >> sounds like a heartfelt love letter. >> i was fighting for my life. >> you can understand how people would look at this. >> i understand that completely. >> "i really do love you." >> this was an insane world i was living in. nothing made sense in the environment that i lived in, in the world that i lived in. nothing. but i did what i had to do. >> bobbi says emphatically despite how officers thought it
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looked in that trailer, she and dial were never a couple. they never slept in the same bed. the vibrator was a gag gift never used. and the condoms, she says, part of the rapes. did you ever stop to consider that maybe all of his threats were empty threats? >> i think my intuition was pretty right. i think he was a very dangerous man. i think he would retaliate. >> all you knew was what he was telling you. >> yes. and i had to sort through that. he spoke in half truths. >> the jurors did not hear bobbi speak of these things. after weeks of testimony and 13 hours of deliberation, they did arrive at a verdict. as the jury filed back into the courtroom, bobbi says she was hopeful. >> there was actually no credible evidence. >> but that hope quickly evaporated. the jurors found her guilty. >> wish wish you shocked?
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>> yes. yes. i think everybody in the courtroom was shocked. >> you had 38 defense witnesses, and the jurors didn't believe them. >> no. they didn't believe any of them i guess. >> the district attorney thought justice was done. >> it was just a sense of relief that, you know, that we had prevailed on it. >> there were those who thought you should have had the warden on trial as well. >> yeah, i don't doubt that. personally, i think he is to blame to some extent for allowing an environment within the prison as far as security is concerned that would allow something like this to happen. i don't think he's, you know, personally responsible for it. i mean, bobbi parker's the one who made the decision to go with him. >> the warden says his policies were not the problem, that it was bobbi who ran off with an inmate. >> am i going to sit here and say that bobbi parker's a victim? no. never in a million years.
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and maybe that's just because i want to justify my decision. maybe it's -- who knows why. i don't think so. i think i'm a pretty good judge of character. no. bobbi parker's not a victim. and we have a jury that agrees with me. >> immediately after the verdict, bobbi was sentenced to one year in prison. the judge sent her directly to jail, declaring her a flight risk. >> family members said, please don't take her. and i said to them, i know this sounds odd. i'll be just fine. i've lived in captivity for so long. i'll be fine. >> bobbi has now served her time and is trying to clear her name. despite the guilty verdict, randy believes his wife is innocent and is angered by those who don't. >> it's easy to sit back in a
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normal safe environment when nobody's threatening you, when you're not being hurt, when you're not having any problems at all, and to be tough. but face the situation to where you fear for your life or you believe, whether it's true or not. it doesn't matter. to her it was real. and i believe that to her it was real. >> what do you personally make of the fact that this woman who you absolutely believe fell in love with a prisoner, helped him bust out of jashlg lived with him in a loving relationship for ten years on the lam, was reunited immediately with her husband, and they have never been apart since? >> i can't explain it. i mean, to me it makes no send. >> i loved my husband then. i love my husband now. we had a good marriage. still have a good marriage.
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>> you think your marriage will survive this? >> well, yeah. have no doubt that it will. it survived 10 1/2 years of separation. it survived a trial, prison. i don't know what else there could be. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, trump club members invited to attend, uncovered. hear what someone said when asked a direct question about that. learning curve, schools reopening. is it a risky step? and the spread as social distancing ignored in some spots. some places where the cur
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