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is just a tiny little slice of what really needs happen to begin to make people whole, to make communities whole and to make sure that we can get through this crisis and they are going to hear an earful from their constituents about this, should they go home for a long recess and not deal with the needs of the american people. and so i think the democrats in the house and nancy pelosi still have a lot of leverage on republicans to do the right thing by the people in -- by the american people. and we will see come monday. but this will be impetus to get back to the bargaining table. and we should not let the president of the united states usurp the role of congress in appropriating fund and doing their job under the constitution. we can't let that go by by allowing the president to use his big black sharpie to sign an executive order that has very
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little impact for the american people. >> thanks to the former congresswoman and everyone else in this coverage. i'm andrea mitchell in washington and "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening and welcome to "politi "politicsnation" where we have breaking news tonight. president donald trump just minutes ago wrapping up a news conference at his new jersey golf course and signing an executive order on coronavirus relief as negotiations have stalled between the white house and congress on how to keep millions of people in their homes. the order comes as the pandemic continues to extract historic pain and suffering from the american people. nearly 5 million cases of
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coronavirus in the united states, deaths over 162,000. the president threatening to sue states that do not comply with his demand for open schools next month. but two economic lifelines, eviction protection and unemployment insurance have appeared to be sinking as congress has stalled on a second coronavirus relief package and as many as 40 million americans are at risk of losing their homes. as dread permeates the country, it's balanced out by the otherwise lack of urgency from president donald trump, who this week was touting, quote, great jobs numbers with unemployment at its highest since the great depression. of course no deal has been produced between the white house and congressional leaders on a second coronavirus relief
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package after nearly a dozen negotiations. the president now threatening another executive order essentially to bypass democrats in congress. no, instead the president's urgency remains with joe biden, who despite a cringeworthy gaffe this week regarding black voters remains ahead with voters of color and generally in several battleground states. to that end, president donald trump has mostly kept up his verbal assaults on mail-in voting with less than three months to november. but this week he about-faced on one state's mail-in system. we go to the white house to nbc's josh letterman. tell us more about the specifics of the executive order signed by the president, josh.
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>> what played out was half presidential news conference, half political rally, somehow merged into one. the president acting in his official capacity signing executive orders while a group of his supporters and members of his club stood in the same room, at times cheering and yearijeer based on the questions the president was getting. the president took several shots at joe biden calling the green new deal childish saying it's not for adults. but i want to break down for you exactly what the president signed as far as these executive orders because that's really is going to affect the lives of millions of people out there. the president signing four executive orders today, one extending federal unemployment benefits at a $400-per-week level. i'll get back to that in a second. also extending the moratorium on evictions so that people hopefully won't be kicked out of their homes for the remainder of this year.
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the president also saying he's signing something to suspend student loan payments to try to make it easier for people trying to pay back those college loans. and then the president also deferring the employees portion of pay roll taxes for everyone in america who is making $100,000 a year or less. now, under the law, that money would have to be paid back by taxpayers, but the president is saying that if he's reelected in november, he will seek to make that permanent so people won't have to pay it back. on the unemployment benefits expired, the president said he's extending them at a level of $400, which is basically a compromise between the $600 the government had been providing that has expired and the $200
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the president was initially offering in negotiations with congress. the president is also saying he wants states to pick up 25% of the tab of extending those $400 unemployment benefits. as you know, states across the country say they're out of money to begin with, that they're not going to be able to take on this additional burden. so that ask from the presidents that states pick up a quarter of the tab of extending these federal unemployment benefits likely to be a large point of contention as democrats and republicans digest what the president just signed a few minutes ago. >> thank you to nbc's josh letterman. joining me is republican brendan buck, a former press secretary to former house speaker john boehner and democrat laina, a former representative of the
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democratic campaign. the president signing some orders that certainly may overextend even his ability to enact, but as we see millions of americans on a very slippery slope in desperate situations in many cases and no end in sight, how does this performance, because it's hard to call it a presidential press conference, how does this performance even make sense politically and certainly for those that need the government to step in and intercede when they're in a predicament that they did not cause? >> i think he's just flooded the situation with uncertainty, the situation on capitol hill, lawmakers before trying to get anything in law with uncertainty. this has been the president's failure from the beginning on this, whether it was tackling the virus in the beginning and they sort of lost patience and
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walked away or this, losing patience with congress and walking away. the reality is this virus, this situation, whether it's the health situation or the economic situation, cannot just be message over. you can't throw talking points at it. you have to address it head on. now, if the president actually had authority to do some of these things, that would be one thing. but even the things that he is trying to do here, he leaves a lot on the table. this doesn't resolve the issue of testing. this doesn't resolve the issue of small businesses that still need loans. there's a lot of things he's leaving alone. now, this may buy him a few days, this may just be a negotiating tactic. but if this is all this ends up being, this is probably going to come back and be another mistake on their part because the bill that congress passed last time really was successful in keeping the economy from having a complete free fall. there are tens of millions of americans who are still struggling but what congress did earlier actually helped.
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if this is all they're able to do, they're at risk at having the economy's bottom falling out again and it's going to hurt the president more. >> he said he's going for the compromise figure of $400. democrats wanted 600, he said 200. he then says the state has to pay 25% of that and so he's really not giving you anything and he's threatening to sue to make sure schools reopen, which adds a burden on parents who are concerned, teach esers and othe who have safety concerns. it end up being at best a trojan horse that could end up when the horse arrives hurting us more than it helps us. >> you're absolutely right, rev. his extension of the $400 employment insurance is also an usurpation of federal power.
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he doesn't have the spending authority to go ahead and extend that $400. let's also keep in mind $400 is not enough when families are struggling to make ends meet, when families are struggling to feed their children. let's think about the people affected by this. overwhelmingly those who are unemployed don't have jobs to go back to. so, for example, if detroit, that is over 80% african-american, the reports are that some 45% of the population is unemployed. those folks are not going to be able to make ends meet with just an additional $400 a week. and this is coming when both the federal and state eviction moratoriums have expired. trump has explaeined he would extend the federal housing moratoriums, but state more t moratoriums have expired in most
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states. that means people will have less money to apply to the fundamentals like food and housing and paying for rent. african-americans are the majority of the renters, it is especially a more difficult burden for african-american women. it's political gamesmanship and it's not going to have the positive net effect for communities of color. >> now, brendan, you're a republican strategist. the fact that he would say this, that it's going to add to the pain of many, delay the pain for the rest and he says it at his golf club with his rich patrons who pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to be members hooting and screaming in the background, would you have recommended anyone that you were running their campaign to use this site to deal with the
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problems of people that are living at the edge and you're going to remind them of your luxurious lifestyle and your multi-millionaire friends? this is the setting he chooses to announce this that really doesn't amount to relieving anyone of their pain. >> it's pretty amazing. i don't imagine even his own staff thought it was a good idea but it's been four years and he makes it up as he goes along. he been out of touch for a really along time. i think the real problem is the substance. the issues are real problems and they're going to hurt a lot of people. the president wanted to make an argument that before all of this the economy was great. and the economy was great for a lot of people but if he wants to be able to making that argument, he needs to make actioning ns t are going to improve the
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situation and i'm concerned that what he's doing today is not actually going to improve the situation. even the idea that he's signing these executive orders is one thing, but the reality, these are going to end up in the court. the things he's talking about doing may not ever even come to fruition. and the relief that he's provided, you may have to end up paying back. all these things have real world consequences. the messaging is going to be all over the place. that's who he is and who he always is and it's going to have consequences in real people's lives. >> and the effect of real people's lhis, he keeps pepperig in these, calling joe biden names, calling nancy pelosi
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names, calling schumer names. it takes away from him understanding the gravity of what americans are facing and just turns into like a reality show of calling names of his political opponents, which shows the politics is more in his head than really understanding what he is dealing with as the chief executive of a country that is in trouble. >> that's right. so the name calling is completely unpresidential. but what struck me as interesting in his presentation today is that he went through and actually fabricated what is actually in the c.a.r.e.s. act and said many of the professional teprotections in the c.a.r.e.s. act, protecting the right to vote, were political and had nothing to do with what was necessary in terms of stimulus. the whole point is the c.a.r.e.s. act is protecting the lives and livelihoods of the
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american people and trying to ensure the right to vote being unfettered by the danger of having to lose your life is something that is protected by the c.a.r.e.s. act, making sure there is universal absentee balloting, making sure that people have an opportunity to place their ballots in a box without having to go into a polling place, et cetera. so the point being is that providing funding for education to help schools prepare for this pandemic. he doesn't seem to appreciate it not just the money, that there are a whole bunch of protections that we need as a community, as a country, because the pandemic knows no boundaries and it is affecting all of our lives. >> all of our lives. i'm going to have to leave it there. thank you brendan buck and alaina beverly. coming up, the fewer people of noncitizens counted in the 2020
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census the better for the president. the president's plot against the census next. first richard lui with the top stories. thanks, rev. the number of confirmed coronavirus cases getting closer to the 5 million mark. as it stands at this hour, the total number of fatalities is more than 162,000. he while, more widespread protests in beirut as they demand answers for the explosion that rocked that country. and they are blaming the government for allowing ammonium nitrate to be improperly stored there for over six years. improp there for over six years ♪
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instance, i want to talk today, to discuss the president's obvious fear of the very country he's supposed to lead, specifically what you're afraid of most is the real will of the american people. it's why you've been so desperate to sabotage the constitutionally mandated census, which is supposed to make sure every person in the country is counted. when your unconstitutional attempt to add a question about citizenship and thus intimidate and undercount immigrant and their families were blocked, you couldn't abide the rebuke. your terror at the prospect of a full count drove you to attempt yet another unconstitutional gambit, this one an executive order demanded that undocumented immigrants not be counted
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towards congressional apportionment, all in a vain attempt to stop democratic leaders getting the rights they're attended to, the fourth amendment clearly states congressional representation shall be based on a count of all persons, not all citizens or even, quote, people personally approved by donald trump. so let's get to the root of your fear, mr. president, because while you've never been a fan of people of color, what you're really afraid of is exercising -- our exercising our rights, the idea that every person in america might be counted is so terrifying to you that your commerce department is ending the census early, ignoring the very extension they fought for in the middle of the
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pandemic. ironically your cowardice in ending the count early won't only ensure undercounts of those groups you fear, mostly people with real melan ine that you've been hiding behind, but it will disenfranchises only americans you seem capable of embracing, those in rural areas who make of your own base all to try to help you assuage your fear and hold on to power by any means necessary. because your trepidation of black and brown voters is legitimate, mr. president. your transparent attempt to silence us will help ensure the realization of your other greatest fear, an election defeat in november and a joe biden presidency starting in january. we'll be right back. 'll be righ. we've always put safety first. ♪ ♪
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i live six minutes from ferguson. being a woman of color, you're scrutinized. that was cori bush in the documentary "knocking down the house" which followed women while they ran in the last election. while on joining a record number of women and breaking the record set when bush ran for congress just two years ago. joining me now is cori bush the democratic primary winner in
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missouri's first district. you know, miss bush, you were an activist starting in the aftermath of the death of the killing by police of michael brown and the protests there in 2014. as you know, i was there for a lot of the rallies, did the eulogy at michael brown's funeral so i took a particular notice of your race. so do you think that helped your campaign and how do you plan to bring that experience to congress? >> i think it helped my campaign. first of all, thanks for having h me. i think it helped my campaign because people have seen the longevity, people have seen an active fighter, someone who started out doing this work and then continued, even when it was hard, even when people didn't like us. it was unpopular. we were being heavily surveilled. we lost some of our activists,
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died. but so much has happened but i stayed in and continued to fight because it was right. when black lives matter folks were attacked, we fought back. i could not allow somebody else in our community to be another hashtag without putting me feet and my hands to work. >> now you've become victorious. you're a minister and you probably personify grass roots organizing if i've seen one of late. how do you think that might show others that want to pursue mixing protests with politics? >> i'm all about being your authentic self. be you. if you show up in the community, show up because that's the mission that you have because in that way, then you can carry it out in anything that you do. if i'm at the grocery store, i'm
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still an activist. and actually in this moment now what i've realized, reverend sharpton, is i'm a politivist. i'm a politician activist now. i plan to take that to congress. and whether that's been done governor or not, maybe we need a social justice caucus. we need to make activists feel like we're not terrorists in our own communities, we're just pushing forward fighting because the fight is there. we wouldn't be fighting if there wasn't a fight. we could be at work bu becaut b there is a fight we fight. when mike brown was murdered, we didn't have a play book. we didn't know what we were doing. we just took to the streets because we were hurt, we were angry, we wanted to see justice. people slammed us for not protesting right. but for us it came out of our souls and we've been able to
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carry that through even now through the george floyd and breonna taylor protests, we are still fighting the way me know how but we're organizing, too. >> and we are still fighting and still marching but we have an elective activist, a politivist in january. what do you bring to washington that you think is unique to you bringing it there given your experience? >> you know, i'm someone who -- i always say i am the people that i serve. i've been a low-wage worker for long time. been uninsured, unhoused with two children. i'm a survivor of sexual assault, a survivor of domestic violence. you know, i know what it's like even a year ago to have utilities shut off. i know what it's like to be cold and have to heat my home with heaters and hope we don't burn our home down. i hope nothing is doing that because it really is bad.
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but i know what that's like even in the -- just it's been very recent, even being a survivor of sexual assault, that's very recent. i went through all of the steps that i was told to go through but there are so many holes in our system that if have you not gone through it, you don't know. my kit sat on a shelf for four months. if you don't have it, you don't know. i bring the voice of not only going through the experience but being vulnerable enough to speak about it, to speak about the chang. >> why it was voted to expand medicaid that would allow missourians to opt into medicaid, what steps are you looking to take in congress to expand access to all americans? >> so i've been a very loud and proud advocate for medicare for all. as a registered nurse, seeing my patients die because they don't have health care or they have
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the access but not the money, that shouldn't be on people. you breathe, you deserve health care. so that's one thing that i'll be fighting for. i'm so glad that 53% of missourians voted yes to expand medicaid but i believe we can do more. i'll be working with those pushing for medicare for all. but we also need covid-19 relief and we need it now. a $2,000 a month that will be retroactive, we need that and we need to continue cancelling utility shutoffs and i'm one to continue to push for that. >> all right, kori buscori bush you for being here with us. my next guest, massachusetts congressman joe kennedy who is looking to unseat ed markey, an
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incumbent who began his washington career in 1976. we invited senator markey to join us today but his schedule would not permit it. congressman, you've criticized the incumbent, ed markey, over his handling of the shooting death of danroy "dj ""henry jr. in 2010. the senator has written a letter demanding the attorney general reopen the case and did the same back in 2014. what would you do differently in the case of dj, a case that i followed closely? >> reverend, great to be with you again. thanks for having me and thanks for talking about the henry story. dj mhenry was a college student murdered by a police officer in west chester new york, under horrific circumstances back in 2010. his parents, dan and angela,
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came to me in 2014 and walked me through the facts of what happened that evening and they asked for my help to seek justice for their son. and, reverend, i did and have done everything we could, from pushing it on the department of justice to local authorities to -- i invited them to be anyway guest at the state of the union back in 2015 to attending a charity gala in benefit of their foundation that they started in their son's name. we continue to try to press multiple different agencies at multiple different levels of government to open up this investigation once again. because, reverend, when a family comes to you to ask for justice for the murdered son, that is the very least that they should expect. and it's not my criticism of senator markey's that matters here, it t's the families.
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the family said senator markey was the only official they asked for help, senator markey was the only one that did nothing. >> the most recent polling has senator markey with a slim lead within the margin of error. what will you focus on in the week until primary day? >> reverend, given the nature of this primary, i don't think anybody has any idea in terms of polls or where things are in this race. what i can tell you, though, is that the way in which a u.s. senator respond to your constituents when they are in the time of deepest need matters. it is a fundamental responsibility of an elected official. and when a grieving family came to ask senator markey for their help, not only was he dismissive, not only was he inattentive, not only did he do nothing, he in fact, according
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to the family, referenced the -- referred to blacks as colored and made them feel small and never followed through. i think massachusetts deserves better, i think the henry family deserves better and i think that if we are going to lead our way through this searing moment of racial justice, the united states deserves better leaders in the u.s. senate that can actually push us through this rather than dismiss these complaints as nothing but that and have to act. that's the difference between myself and senator markey. i did everything i could. he didn't. >> as we are dealing with the whole question of coming to terms with policing around the country in the wake of george floyd and many other cases that we've seen before and since george floyd and many of us preparing to go to washington to deal with this and the march on august 28th, what would you want
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to bring to the senate if you were successful and i've heard you talk, in fact, you spoke at national action network's convention last year. i've heard you address this. but what specifically would you want to bring to the senate to deal with the question of policing? >> reverend, i think there's an awful lot that needs to be done here. first obviously is moving the george floyd just and policing act, which we passed through the house, that needs to get passed through the senate. that's a big first step. second, we have to rethink the way we police in this country. one of my biggest areas of focus in congress has been on health care. and not just providing access to everyone who needs it but with a specific focus on mental and behavioral health care. we criminali izize mental and bl
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earlier health ca -- behavioral health care. we have to address the way in which we treat mental and behavioral illness, we to make sure that the voices of our communities that are experiencing this injustice are heard at the policy making levels and are heard by our leaders and you can't do that if you're not in community with them, if you do not have relationships back in the communities you represent. that's the kind of leading i want to take to the u.s. senate and i think that's what's missing right now in massachusetts. >> senator joe kennedy iii, thank you for being with us this evening. >> coming up, one of america's foremost historians leading anti-racist voices and award-winning author ebram x.
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we are 87 days away from the presidential election and the issues of race in this country is likely to be one of the determining factors in who turns out to vote. that racial divide is highlighted in the september cover story from "the atlantic" entitled "is this the beginning of the end of american racism?" it was written by ibramx x.
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ibram x. kendi. thank you for being on the show again. certainly your book has become a major book in this discussion of race in this country. i couldn't help but ask you come on after seeing your article in the "atlantic." do you think this is the end of racism? >> it certainly could be. i've long argued that the heartbeat of racism is denial. and in many ways the trump administration has caused many
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americans to stop this country's denial of racism. his racist ideas have been undeniable and he's followed up that racism with denials himself saying he's the least racist person anywhere in the world, consistently, constantly. in many ways he's held up a mirror of racism and many americans have not like what they've seen. and so hopefully we'll as a nation collectively come together and eliminate racism once and for all. >> now, one of the things that i've encountered in my work through the years is that people have a certain -- have had until now a certain view of what racists were, usually looking at them as southern bigots, archie bunker types and not understanding they could be anywhere. they are northern, manmanicured
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people with pin striped suits. and i think donald trump has ripped the veil off that and we're beginning see how people do their business, how they legislate. we see racism more as what it is rather than fitting some neatly choreographed picture of what we think it is. have you found the reaction to your book and your work that people are beginning to understand this is more than who they say looks and acts like a racist but more of what they do and what they enact? >> i hope so. that's one of the essential arguments i make in how to be an anti-racist, that being racist is not a person is, it's what a person is being in any given moment. so if a person is saying a racist idea, if the person is expressing that there's something wrong with black people or native people, if a
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person is supporting policies that are leading to inequity and injustice, then that person is being racist, no matter where that person lives, no matter that person's political party, no matter if that person has black friends, no matter if that person is born in queens or in mississip mississippi. if a person is expressing racist ideas or supporting racist policies, they're racist. >> you have people almost examining themselves -- not almost, actually examining themselves in trying to check their own attitude and a lot of their own biasses they've never admitted or come to terms with. >> that's certainly what i think i'm seeing. and that's why in my book i define terms. you take the example of a racist idea. i defined it as any idea that suggests a racial group is
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superior or inferior to another racial group in any way. to say that something is better or worse than a racial worse is a racist idea. to say something is wrong with a racist group is a racial idea and to look out at racial inequality and not see it as caused by racist policy and power and instead blame the people is also to have racist ideas. i think when you give people, particularly well-meaning people clear and consistent definitions, it really allows them to apply those definitions to themselves. and some americans are doing that. >> now, one of the other aspects i think was very critical that you pointed out in your book and the article is that we don't need to just do it for a moment, we need to readjust the institutional racism that is
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sort of baked in. i saw some of the private sectors say we're going to give money to the social justice groups, including the ones i work with. but that is just one step. you got to deal with your internal corporate setups, your contracts, that you do. and i think you hit that dead-on the head. >> without question. when we're thinking about institutions right now, communities right now, states right now, if most americans are saying that racism is a big problem, we shouldn't now start saying racism over there in that other state, in that other institution, in that other community is a problem. no. we should be saying our institutions are the problems. what policies do we need to change within our communities, within our institutions? what ideas do we need to change within ourselves? and i think if we look internally, if all of us look
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internally, then we can collectively transform our communities and our institutions. >> all right. thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders. try the cooling, soothing relief of preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. try new soothing relief. they're going to be paying for this for a long time. they will, but with accident forgiveness allstate won't raise your rates just because of an accident, even if it's your fault. cut! sonny. was that good? line! the desert never lies. isn't that what i said? no you were talking about allstate and insurance.
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for spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub? grubhub's gonna reward you for that with a $5 off perk. (doorbell rings) - [crowd] grubhub! (fireworks exploding) the world was stunned by the video of george floyd on the ground with a police officer's knee on his neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds. but this week some of the body
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cam footage that the policemen had on them was released, and it clearly shows george floyd was handcuffed, being pushed into the car, trying to say things back, but he certainly was of no physical threat to those policemen that would lead to his being on the ground with a knee on his neck for almost nine minutes. this kind of behavior by police, not saying all police, not even saying most police, but this kind of behavior by those police that use this kind of brutal and in this case ending up deadly force is what we are trying to address in this george floyd police and justice act. it is why people are saying something must be done to hold police accountable, and they must be transparent, and they must not feel they're above the law but enforce the law.
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that's why many of us are heading to washington on august 28th for the march. keep your knee off our neck. martin luther king iii and many civil rights groups and i are joining with national civil action network on that day. if you're from a hot spot, march in your state. if you are not, join us there and be part of saying that this is not the kind of country that will be the country that we all feel that we're treated equally under the law. it is part of what people like dr. king, who stood in that same spot will be in on august 28th, 57 years ago, calling for a dream of a new nation that is one beast on our beloved community that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, my colleague alicia menendez picks up our news coverage.
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hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. tonight the lives of americans of americans are hanging in the balance. they're waiting on congress and the white house to come to an agreement on another round of coronavirus relief. they want their political leaders to come together and find a solution to real problems in their lives. instead, today the president decided to go it alone into the scorched earth approach in the
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