a comprehensive deal with democrats. the president signed four executive orders that may or may not bring some temporary relief to families who need it the most tonight in trump's america. the effectiveness of those executive orders are in question tonight because it's unclear which of his orders are even legal. the president may have usurped some power, the power to spend money. he took aim at democratic leaders, the media and his political rivals while signing executive orders on covid-19 economic relief. the orders establish a payroll tax cut through the end of the year for americans making less than $100,000, defer student loan payments through the end of the year, continue the eviction moratorium and expand the

unemployment benefit at $400 a week versus $600 a week. speaker nancy pelosi said negotiations over a second covid-19 relief bill are not finished. the country has just surpassed 5 million confirmed cases of covid-19. the pandemic is still causing havoc on millions of american lives. with me is jill winebank, a former watergate assistant special prosecutor. the big question seems to be as they watched the president roll out these four executive orders is does he have the legal authority to do this? >> he does not have the legal authority to give the kind of assistance that americans need. not only is he not offering what they need, but congress has the power of the purse. when he says i'm going to give $400 instead of the $600 that they need, and he did that from

his own country club where people pay $350,000, where he was denying people a few hundred dollars, he can't do it. only congress can allocate money. so that's a promise that has some p.r. value but has no economic value to the american people who need it. in terms of the loan forgiveness, he may be able to do that for a portion of people who have loans that are backed by federal guarantees. but if it's just from a bank, he can't affect that. only the bank can do that. so in large part -- [ inaudible ]. >> jill, i'm not sure if i still have you but i want to ask you another question, which is walk us through, then, what the legal challenges of this potentially

become. >> okay. i hope you can hear me. i can hear you. >> i can. >> okay, good. there can certainly be a lawsuit that would challenge the power of the purse, a lawsuit that would be successful. there's no question that the courts have already ruled that the power of the purse is congress's and that he cannot change money that's allocated by congress to a different purpose. he's tried that this other instances, he's tried that with the wall and he hasn't been successful. so that's one of the problems. now, there's a political problem for both sides. it's a problem for the democrats because we don't want democrats to look like they're standing in the way of something. so that's a problem. but hopefully the american people will see through his charade and will see that he did this in a political way at his country club where he had his backers there cheering him as he talked and laughing at questions that were legitimate questions

from the press and of course as soon as the press started asking questions, he cut off answering questions and walked out of the room. so the legal problem really is what kind of time would it take to get this cut down to force him to go back to negotiating with congress. and i trust nancy pelosi as a very smart politics to be able to come up with a way to get this done. so that the american people who need the aid and get the aid. you also have to point out he's promising tax relief but it's only temporary. anyone who takes that relief is going to have to pay it back at the beginning of next year. he's only offering a deferral payment. he's not offering getting rid of it. and i should point out if that money were absolutely eliminated, it's the money that funds medicare and social security. so watch out for what would

happen to those. >> all right, jill. thank you so much. president donald trump's attempt to go around congress comes on the heels of searing words from speaker of the house nancy pelosi about relief negotiations. >> this is a different kind of a negotiation. this isn't just about dollar. it's about values. you're mistaking them for somebody to gives a damn about a lot of these things. they don't. >> while lawmakers struggle to reach an agreement, the financial safety nets of the c.a.r.e.s. act of expiring one by one, as the "new york times" editorial board puts it, congress effectively pushed millions of americans off a financial cliff when it failed to extend the enhanced unemployment benefits. that cliff is particularly steep for women and even steeper for women of color. the national unemployment rate dropped to 10.2% in july. that's not the whole story. women are the ones bearing the brunt of the covid-19 job

losses. the july unemployment rate for women was 10.5% compared to 9.4% for men. while the july rate for white women was 9.6%, the rate for black women and latinas were above that. and haunting questions like how will i feed my family and keep my job while caring for my children are reaching a fever pitch for women across the economic spectrum. the decisions made in this moment could trigger a ripple effect with impacts felt longer after this pandemic is under control. with me now, a reporter on women and the economy for the "19th" and emily as yuster is a profes at brown university.

why is this recession hitting women so hard? >> it's because of the job women hold. if you look at one of the essential job is certified nursing assistants. black and brown women make up about 45% of those women, although they're not 45% of the population. they're more susceptible to covid, they're more likely to under certain sixes be laid off. and then let's look at the child care piece. this is a huge piece. if people are talking about sending their children back to school but they don't have child care and they have low wages, this is really a problem. we see problem after problem. i've been writing about this stuff for 40 years actually, since i got my doctorate in 1980 and not so much has changed about women's work and women's responsibility. so when you have something that hits health, that hits income

and hits child care, you're really talking about hitting women. >> emily, it is depressing if nothing else to hear julianne saying she has been doing this work for that long and that she doesn't see some of those core fundamentals as having changed. i wonder how you see it from your perch. what makes this moment potentially different? >> i think this moment isn't really that different. i think the piece that i am really worried about is that it's not just the unemployment piece but it's also the exit of the labor force piece so in the most recent numbers, we saw a large share of women saying actually i'm leaving the labor force. if you looked at employment numbers, they would be even worse than the unemployment numbers and that's going to again hit black and brown women more than others and i think a huge piece of that is in the absence of school, in the absence of child care, women do not have -- women are going to have to stay home with their kids and we're going to be sort of backing up maybe even further

than 1980. >> i mean, stick on that point, though, ememily, which is it's t just about a hit or a loss taken for those women in this moment. it's about the fact that they can never catch up what has been lost, right? >> yes. >> and it's about the fact that if you leave the labor market, once you return, there is now a dwap gap on your resumé that has to be accounted for. where does that leave women on the other side of this? >> it leads them worse off. we know that when you have a gap in your employment, that is bad for your employment. we know women are going to feel that throughout their entire life in terms of their income and they're never going to make that up. >> you know, they're going to be competing on -- let me just quickly, they're going to be competing against younger people with fresher skills, so they're

basically at a disadvantage. that's the bottom line. i think that professor oster is right when she talks about participation. people are dropping out. but when they come back in, they're basically going to be dinged and part of it is because their competitors are going to be younger people with fresher skills. >> yes. >> it's really easy to talk about this in terms of numbers and numbers just don't tell the whole story. you wrote a very extensive piece about this. you spoke with a lot of working women, a lot of mothers. for those of us who are reporte reporters, once you start talking to people, you start hearing patterns emerge over and over again. what did you hear when you spoke with women who are confronting this pandemic? >> the pattern of women leaving work, making this decision, that i heard over and over again. we have women who are for the first time in their careers in some instances deciding i am going to stop working because i cannot handing the child care

piece and often time their husbands or partners make more money thissan they doug so they put in the position to exit the workforce. many women are now thinking months and years out from now, will i be able to come back and do the jobs was doing when the coronavirus hit? how long will the coronavirus affect me moving forward? >> i know that there are a lot of working women, a lot of working mothers like myself who are watching this segment right now and their hair is absolutely on fire because they're saying i am living this, i understand the problem, i don't need to you articulate the problem, i need you to tell me what the solution is. is there a short-term solution? is there something that these folks on capitol hill who are talking about this relief package should be doing to specifically target working women and mothers who are being hit by the economic effects of this pandemic?

>> put some subsidized child care into these relief bills. >> yes. >> i know that with covid it's challenging to say what's safe and who is socially distancing but put some subsidized child care in there. use the women's bureau and the department of labor to do something aggressive as opposed to passive about dealing with this. we're really talking about, number one, child care, number two, the ppe, personal protection and number three about how we change attitudes, a mo much longer term thing. subsidized or widely available child care is a big piece of this. our work shows that many women will not be called back to work. so we have to make sure also that somehow people's jobs are protected. so if they're back in six months

or a year perhaps their job is still there for them because otherwise they're starting over with the gap that we've talked about in their resumés. >> emily, if there is something that this moment is revealing, there are many things this moment is revealing but one thing apparently clear is the system of child care that we have in america is not working. if there is a silver lining to all of this and we begin to rethink some of the fundamental systems and structures, beyond the short-term relief, the things that would have to happen right now, big picture, longer term, what are the conversations that policy makers need to be having as they look at these numbers and the way this recession is impacting women? >> yeah, i think one of the things this outlines is this issue of child care and affordable child care and access to child care is not just a short-term issue. we need better access to child care, more affordable, more available. i think that's one piece.

and i think this other thing is this highlights the inequities we see still across genders in how people are dealing with the household and the fact that women are still doing more of the second shift and men are not and if we want women to really make the final steps we need for more equality and not 77 cents on the dollar, we really need to be equalizing that work. >> all right, thank you all so much for your time. i appreciate you being here. former vice president joe biden released his agenda for the latino community this week. how he's trying to reach out to those voters coming up. this is as we await his announcement on a varieice presidential pick. self sources say he is closing in on a decision and it could come within days. that's next. it could come within days that's next.

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been attacked as too unlikable and too angry to become president while senator tammy duckworth has been described as too silly and a deeply unimpressive person. women are often de derided. if you are a white woman or a person of color of any gender, and you want to achieve anything that hasn't been achieved before, like being the first vice president or first variety of color, then you cannot get there for your ambition.

that's why a group of prominent women, including my next guest are circulating this letter calling on media organizations to do better in their coverage of the vice presidential candidate. is is cecile, these words matter, right? all of these women are very tough, they have heard much worse than the insults i just listed off. this is about the way that these words corrupt the process. >> absolutely, alicia, and you couldn't have done a better job to sort of express what women are facing, and particularly women of color, black women are facing both racist and sexist stereotypes. we did join together to say regardless of who the vice president picks that we have her back and it's really important for the media to be on notice that we're not going to put up with what we saw. of course what we saw when hillary clinton ran for

president, every time a woman has been on the ticket and it's important -- even though after sending this letter, a major national newspaper printed in the last 24 hours printed an article comparing this vice presidential process to a reality tv show, "the bachelor," as if this was nothing more than a beauty contest. and women deserve better and women in this country are very excited about this potential nomination and they're excited about this election. >> cecile, we know what it looks like when it goes wrong. what does it look like to do this right? >> i thisnk what it looks like s to be treated like you would any other candidate for such an important position. and i think particularly now, alicia, as we're looking at what's happening in this country, we are in a crisis and the next president is going to

having to deal with a health care crisis, a pandemic that of course has been prolonged unnecessarily because of the complete failure of this president and economic crisis as a result and it's really important that we have a team in the white house that can bring this country back together again and i think it's never been more important to have a strong woman as part of that team. women have been on the front lines of this pandemic as health care workers, as care givers, as teachers and i think it's really an important historic moment and in terms of their qualifications to lead their experience. and i this i what a strong partner they will be with vice president biden to get the country right back on track again. >> cecile, your effort in sup super ma majority, when you talk

to women voters across the country as i know you have been doing in a variety of ways, what is it that they want to see from this ticket broadly and what is it that they want to see from this vice presidential pick? >> honestly what women want to see is leadership. it's incredible that we are six months into this pandemic. i think we just hit the 5 millionth case, 22% of the world's deaths are in the united states of america. we now lead in that arena. so women have had to make a plan all along for their kids to take care of their health, to deal with unemployment, i mean, you know, and we just saw of course that the president is doing nothing. he's now cutting wages for more than 20 million americans. women had to make a plan. this president never made a plan. he never took it seriously, he didn't listen to health care professionals. he kept saying it was going to disappear and it hasn't

disappeared. we're in crisis in this country so women are looking actually for a leader. they're looking for a leader that can bring folks together and i think the exciting thing for women is we will have a ticket that begins to look like the rest of america, look like we have a government that begins to look like us and someone who will actually bring the experience of leadership to this ticket that we are so desperately in need of. women don't see these as partisan issues. i think that's why you're seeing an 18-point gender gap in favor of joe biden versus donald trump. >> cecile richards, thank you. still ahead, the push to get young voters to vote by snail mail. plus joe biden's new latina agenda. details next. latina agenda details next (mom) come on, hurry up!

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trump's assault and we're going to reunite families. look at all the families not reunited. we're going to stop detaining people and invest on case management programs to help ensure migrants get the support they need. it's going to cost a lot of money but it's a hell of a lot cheaper than building a wall. >> this week joe biden said he wants to combat hate crimes and gun violence and has plans for securing our values as a nation of immigrants. his campaign announced a wh whopping $280 million advertising blitz. with that ad buy, they plan to target latino voters, insisting

across colorado, nevada and virginia. they're also buying into latino-paid media in pennsylvania and north carolina. with me is a daca recipient and the vice president of perhaps for the marguerite casey foundation and the former national director for latinex foundation. a what an all-star panel. jonathan, i want to begin with you. i am under no delusions that there are voters of any stripes who are sitting around their kitchen tables thumbing through policy plans and really talking them through, but these plans send a message about priorities and i wonder when you look at the plan that came out of the bie biden campaign for the latino community, what stands out to

you? >> i think what is really important for me and for all of us to be grounded on is what is at stake in this election. i will admit that as a progressive, not everything that i wanted for latino communities is included in this plan but there are some really solid aspects of it that would make it a radically different terrain for organizers across the country to be able to organize then. for example, one of the things i was happy to see it forgiving some student loan debt. i would love to see all of the student loan debt cancelled but seeing some of it in this plan is a result that some of the work that organizers across the country have been doing. so i want to be able to see that. it is encouraging and i want to see more of it. >> so much of the effort that the biden campaign is doing is about persuading latinos who did not note for former vice president biden in the primary,

to not just vote for him in the general election but to be excited about it, to be enthusiastic about it. i want to know both as you look through this agenda if you see pieces there that you think will be motivating and more generally what you think the biden campaign needs to be doing to activate those voters who were not with him in the primary. >> yeah. and thank you so much for having the three of us on. it's really nice to see so many familiar faces. you know, i think when i was reading through the latino agenda for the biden campaign, i really think it's the american agenda because latinos and americans were one in the same. and there are a lot of exciting things when i was reading through the agenda. there's portions of the educational agenda that i think are really critical. as someone who is on the stage of my life of purchasing a home, seeing some of the things he's doing for homeownership for the

latinos is very exciting but as you mentioned, there's one thing that the policy is there and another is how are we reaching voters and potential voters with this information. there's going to be 32 million eligible latino voters of which 75% are ages 18 through 34. so really young voters. and it's really important that we reach them. i recently saw vice president joe biden doing instagram live with a youtuber make-up latino artist and i was really encouraged by that because that's no traditionally where we might see a presidential candidate but i'm really glad to see him going where the voters are and i hope that the campaign continues to do that because it is going to be really important to not just try to get voters that didn't vote democrat in the last election but also apiepeas

to the base and energize the base and not just flipping voters but also try to energize the base as well. >> when you look at this ad buy across all of these states, some of it specifically targeted at latinos, what does the message need to be there? >> thank you so much for having me. i think generally this campaign had a really great week in terms of latinex reach. not only did they roll out their latinex policy, i want to recognize the vice president did put an ad out to commemorate the el paso shooting. that's something that went widely unnoticed by mainstream media. that was the largest attack on latinos in our u.s. history. so i think that goes a long way. in that note he also did release his texas leadership. texas is the biggest battleground state in the cycle.

we are inches away from turning it blue and he just unveiled that his stage director was rebecca, a veteran of texas campaigns and also senator warren's state director. i feel heartened to see those steps from the capital punishment -- campaign. and also he's backed up by states that carry heavy latino voters. i have had the luxury of being in the trenches for a lot of these stage directors. and so i guarantee that they are uniquely focused on turning out latinos. they have a long history in those states. they know the uniqueness of that constituency in those states and they know how to reach those voters specifically.

>> right. it's so important, especially when we had talked about if i had a quarter for every time somebody said latinos are not a monolith but not any real understanding what they meant as they said that. a big point is geographic. when you were talking about latino voters and latinex voters, what you're really talking about in large part is young voters. you're talking about the challenges you face in reaching la te latinex voters, also prepandemic to getting them out beyond the barriers of entry. how do you turn disadvantage into an advantage and engage

young latinas where they are? >> i do think this is a key portion of the work. you cannot engage latina voters across the board without having a strong youth outreach strategy. and the alliance youth action had reported just this summer talking about how often times young people were being reached out to by the different campaigns and i think what is shown is that there is much more to go so i'm heartened to see some of the ad buy numbers but i do think youk peopng people nee reason to vote and need to see those policy changes and those proposals. and what's important is as they're leading our social justice movement is to see campaigns making concessions to some of their demands, to see the campaign really out there fighting for a progressive change. at the end of the day we want to see transformative change in our

communities. >> jonathan, natalie and julissa, thank you all. almost 180 american will be able to vote by mail. we'll talk about the push to get young people on board next. yount ♪

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millions of americans are more excited to vote this year than ever before. that includes a lot of young voters. but there's a problem many don't know how. a new poll shows 77% of young people are more interested in voting this year. more than half say they lack the resources or knowledge to vote by mail. so how do you educate people on how to vote in a pandemic when many of them have never voted before or used a stamp for that matter. social media pushes to educate are sky high. neff thought i'd see so many tiktoks of drag queens strutting to the mailbox, one tells me. as many as 6,000 volunteers are

reaching out to younger voters and talking them through the process. sarah, people here, they see that poll and they don't understand why it is so hard for young people to vote by mail. so what are the challenges that they're up against and how do you address them in time for november? >> thanks for having me, alicia. vote by mail is hard. it's not built to be easy for all of us to participate in it. each state have their own rules and many time counties have their own rules. we have to make sure youk people have the information they need as they navigate through all of these dates and deadlines to make sure their voices can be heard. >> stephanie, you're watching what's happening with the u.s. postal service. just overnight we had news breaking that trump's political

appointee unveiled a major reorganization, centralizes power around himself, moves or reassigns 23 postal executives, 87 days away from election day. what does an organization like yourself do in the face of that news? >> well, you know, we have to stay focused and make sure that we're reaching young people in every way possible. we have over 9,000 young people who have signed up to be a student ambassador and they're da daring friends to get out the vote. we just published a know your rights page. so we have to figure out, a, we got to reach people where they are, b, educate them on all the ways they can vote and give them a menu of options and walk them

through it and do explain our videos and do everything we can to educate young people because we know that's one of the barriers. education, not feeling like they know enough about the voting process, about the candidates. also, our voter resources, we're opening to educate them to give them the confidence they need, but also to make a plan and get ready to vote early or by mail. >> you said something to me that i cannot stop thinking about, ben, which is that young people traditionally vote late, that that will likely be true again this year and that that will cause a freak out at some point in let's say september or october. tell me more. >> we know that young people tend to cast a ballot late, as close to the deadline as possible. this is a new experience for many young people where they've never had the opportunity to vote before, let alone by mail. so i fully anticipate when

ballots drop on september 4th in states like minnesota and north carolina, i expect it will be older folks. and that's okay. we are reaching out to millions of young people. 3.6 million young peopled tex-- people texted in the last week about getting a mail-in ballot. culture and community will beat that cowardice and corruption that donald trump is putting forward. hey, you have a friend that knows how to vote by mail, here's the ballot selfie they're putting on their twitter or instagram. that will overcome any sort of

"new york times" op-ed page. >> we'll replay that clip when we get into the fall. sarah, politico reports today that advisers are, quote, scrambling to ponder possible executive actions trump could take to curb male, anything from directing the postal service to not deliver certain ballots. you both need to face these realities and at the same time fire up young people and convince them that their vote matters. how do you do both at the same time? >> i mean, the great news is that young people are already fired up and they've been fired up. we've seen young people taking to the streets on climate, on gun violence, for the marches against police brutality. young people are fired you were and that energy is not going

anywhere. our groups are making sure that young people have the information they need to make sure they're able to cast their ballots, whether it's by mail or their person. we're running tracking polls and as many as 40% of black youth and 30% of latinex groups are planning on voting. we're making sure young people are and a hanavigating the comp dates. >> stephanie, do you think this moment has created any appetite for doing a more comprehensive deep dive look at our election system and processes and things that people on this panel have been screaming about for the last ten years since they started doing youth vote? do you think we come out the other side of this and see bigger reforms? >> absolutely.

i this i we'nk we're living in d of great awakening on waste, on how this country and government is run and on how we can all play a role in moving this country forward and being a part of progress. i do think once we get out of this election season, i do think people are going to sit back and say, hey, this was way too complicated. why? why? what can i do to make sure my voice is heard and make sure we're changing the way that people vote in this country and we are ensuring that we are pro vying the access and opportunity, as opposed to figuring out how to make it harder and more difficult. i'm so encouraged with all the young people standing up and speaking out in what they believemoney i think they'll figure out why is it so complicated? it doesn't have to be, right? >> yup. ben, sarah and stephanie, thank you all so much. the world is waiting for the

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great, which means you must never abandon the public health approach. >> dr. anthony fauci sounding the alarm even once the coronavirus vaccine is available it is not a silver bullet. masks and social distancing may be with us for some time. let's bring in dr. vin gupta nbc news medical contributor and pu great to see you. you heard the sound from dr. fauci about the vaccine and really trying to set expectations that even once there is a vaccine that doesn't necessarily mean the end of this virus. >> that is exactly right. good to see you. in the best case scenario just to level set for all the viewers out there we know a food vaccine isn't always perfect. 75% effectiveness for a flu vaccine is fantastic. and there is so much more uncertainty right now. just shared on twitter a study for your viewers to go check it out. 90% of the enrollees for a major

trial out in oxford in the uk, they're only enrolling 90% of enrollees are caucasian. what about african-americans? what about black and brown communities? why are we not making sure this is broadly affected? >> to your point, i saw the tweet while we were in commercial break. i'll retreat it so you can retweet it as well. if you are talking about a virus that disproportionately affected communities of color shouldn't that be an argument for why you would test the vaccine in the communities that need to benefit from it? >> absolutely. that trial is being conducted in the united kingdom. they need a diverse cohort there to make sure we can extrapolate, generalize findings across demographics. to your point, covid-19 not not been -- has not been race blind. here in the united states we need african-americans.

we need hispanic communities to be represented in these trials to make sure that this vaccine is broadly safe and effective regardless of color. >> dr. gupta, i know there are a lot of folks at home who have the same question i have, which is if the vaccine is not the end of this then what is? >> part of this, we'll be trending toward herd immunity so part of it is going to be hopefully a good enough vaccine to lessen severity. that some people will actually get immune through the vaccine. some will get exposed. maybe we've under estimated natural immunity because there's multiple mechanisms of immunity and not just development of antibodies. some combination of natural exposure. hopefully the vaccine is at least moderately effective. and more and more if we adopt masking we know masking with penalties for example which i have been a big proponent of --

15%. it is going to be a combination of approaches with no quick solution. >> all right. dr. gupta, thank you as always. that is it for me. thank you for being here. my colleague joshua johnson picks things up after a quick break. k break. alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ ♪ we've always put safety first. ♪ ♪ and we always will. ♪ ♪ for people. ♪ ♪ for the future. ♪ ♪ and there has never been a summer when it's mattered more. wherever you go, summer safely. get 0% apr financing for up to five years

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