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district attorney. how new developments in a legal case could spell big trouble for the president. st. louis cardinal shortstop joins us to talk about testing positive for covid and what he thinks of major league's baseball plan to keep players safe. remember this viral video of a bride caught in the explosion in beirut. later this hour, we will hear from her. let's break down president trump's new executive action. he signed one and three mem ram dun appearing to encroach on congress's power. it's all likely to be met with legal challenges. let's take a deeper dive with our panel. josh letterman and former federal prosecutor and nbc legal analyst paul butler. thanks to both you have for joining us. josh, the president already getting push back on the morn talk shows. we heard nancy pelosi calling this unconstitutional slop. what can you tell us about the bush pack? >> both sides really are spending the daybreaking down
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exactly what it is the president signed last night and how exactly it's going to work. it's pretty complicated. we'll break down what was included in what the president signed last night. the first part has to do with unemployment benefits that are extended now to $400 level down from that $600 that had been provided through federal unemployment ben if i waefits de coronavirus pandemic. the president also moving to defer payroll taxes through the end of the year to extend the moratorium on evictions from people facing the loss of their homes as well as deferring student loan payments and forgiving interest on those student loans. with several of these items, there are some real nagging questions that have to be answered. particularly when you look at that unemployment insurance that the president is saying he wants to extend. one of the things the administration is doing is they are saying, for that $400, they want states to pick up the tab
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for a quarter of that $400. basically, washington would chip this 300. the states would chip in 100. this is part of the president's reluctance to give more money to states, wanting them to pick up some of the burden of this themselves. the states are already pushing back and saying we're out of money. we don't have additional funds to be propping up this federal unemployment system as well. when it comes to that payroll tax, more questions at the moment than answers. the president is saying employees who get withholdings in their paycheck from their employers, they're going to reduce that for the time going forward but it's not -- you're not forgiving the taxes. at the end of the year, people would still be liable to pay those taxes back. potentially businesses will want to hold on the that money and not give it to employees in order to make sure they have it
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to pay back. the president says if he's reelected he would seek to make those permanents. taxpayers wouldn't have any assurance of that. all of this playing out as leaders really on both sides of the hill have been criticizing the president's move, particularly the democrats, of course. take a listen to what nancy pelosi had to say about it this morning. >> what the president did is, i agree with the republican senator said it was unconstitutional slop. while it has the illusion of saying we're going to have a moratorium on eviction, it says i'm going to ask the folks in charge to study if that's feasible. he says he's going to do the payroll tax, he is undermining social security and medicare. these are illusions. >> one thing that nancy pelosi did not say there though was she's planning to sue. that's an indication of what
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pressure democrats are under not to look politically like they are obstructing the president from taking some steps that could help people suffering right now even though democrats feel what the president did was insufficient and what he really should do is be at the negotiating table with them willing to strike a compromise. >> paul, that's my question to you. yesterday we heard all of these people sounding the alarms that the president doesn't have the authority to do this. josh said democrats are under immense pressure. if they choose not to pursue any legal battle, what kind of precedent does this set? >> under the constitution, nst the congress that has the power to authorize federal spending. the constitution design is fiscal choices are difficult. one example is with this payroll tax. we don't know whether it's going to be permanent. if it's not permanent then there's not going to help workers because employers are still likely to take the money
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out of people's paychecks. if it is permanent, where is the money going to come from. it might come from social security. these are difficult fiscal choices which is why the constitutional design is it's congress that makes these decisions. the president has a very broad view of his executive power. he's issued these kinds of orders before with the travel ban, the so called muslim ban with tiktok this week. with building the wall. these have been challenged by congress but some judges also fear the president's raw view of executive power so it's uncertain if if cases are brought, what the outcome would be. >> nbc josh letterman and paul butler. thank you. in california where the number of covid infections has topped more than 550,000 cases, families and teachers are getting ready to start school as early as this week. mostly online. governor newsom is strengthening
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restrictions on in school learning. scott cohen is in san jose, california. will any students be going back to a physical classroom? >> reporter: very few. the way the rule goes is if the county is on the state's monitoring list for rising covid cases, that means the school districts cannot do in person learning. that's really nearly all of the state, including where i am in san jose where they will start class on wednesday. teachers are being told here and in a lot of the large school districts that they need to conduct those remote classes from in the classroom. they will have to come to school for the better wi-fi connection and access to classroom material. that's created concern among some of the teachers. there's also various concerns among the parents. there are reachers like ben who is a kinds kindser -- kindergar
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teacher. he is using the technology and had already been using it. the move to virtual instruction last school year was seamless and his message to teachers, students and families is to embrace the change. >> this is a youtube generation, right? they are so used to surfing through you tube video, choosing what they want to watch and now there's a teacher there on the other side of the screen which is maybe just sitting there. how do we really pull these? how do we grab these kids attention? we are the kindser rockets. we do our best. that's the astronaut helmet. >> reporter: that also explains violet, his puppet friend that is sitting to his left. he says that he has a little bit of an advantage as a kindergarten teacher in that this is the only school that his
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students know of thus far. at the same time, he is starting school, they started last week. he hasn't met any of his students face-to-face. like every one else, he would like to get back to the classroom. >> very creative. you got to wonder how high he would score on room raider. now to more on that break news out of north carolina. an earthquake struck this morning in the western region but was felt statewide. jordan jackson joins me on the phone. jordan, how close are you to the epicenter? what did you feel? >> reporter: it's good to be with you. thanks so much for having me. i'm actually at my parents house here in north carolina. they live just right on the virginia border about 25 miles from this morning's epicenter. this is largest earthquake in over a 100 years here. i can tell you what i felt was really unlike anything i have
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personally experienced before. it was shortly after about 8:00 a.m. this morning. i had just walked back into my bedroom when i heard what sounded like a fright traeight coming down my driveway. i think i could hear it before i could feel anything. just all of a sudden this incredible shaking and rattling. it felt like wave was underneath my bed. that's the best way i can describe it for you. it lasted long enough for me to make it out into the kitchen area. i live in a house with a lot of sort of large windows and just how much they were vibrating and trembling, it almost felt like it was a helicopter just hover ing on the roof outside. i had a family member sleeping and woke up asking if there was a tornado. lots of reported damage in florida and i've heard from people who live on farmland who said they saw their horses knocked from their feet outside
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in the pasture. just could not stay up right through the shaking. again, unsettling. >> wow and for everybody who is listening to us on sirius xm radio, we're watching images of the earthquake. resaw shaking video from a baby monitor. you could see the crib shaming. seeing store items knocked down on shelves. we are glad you are safe. thank you for reporting for us in north carolina. we are now 86 days out from the november election. former vice president joe biden is closing in on a final decision for his running mate. that's according to four sources familiar with the matter who tell nbc news that biden could make his announcement by the middle of this week or sooner. ali joins me with the latest. biden has blown past some self-imposed dead lilines but h still says i'm on track to announce earlier than prooefrs
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electi -- previous plelections. what do we know? >> reporter: the good news is soon because this veepstakes has opinion extremely long in terms of joe biden locking up the nomination so early and all of the speculation over the course of next few months of who his v vice president rial running mat will be. you're right that sources have been telling my colleagues here that the decision is coming soon. he's hud ling with family this weekend in delaware trying to make this decision. up with of the biggest decisions that he'll make of this campaign. what we do know is what he's looking for in a running mats. he has said repeatedly this word sympatico. it's ringing in my ears. it's what i hear from sources when they talk about this issue of who joe biden's running mats will be. we know this is the person who knows the role of vice president very well having been that person for eight years to barack obama. now making the decision of who
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his own vice presidential pick will be. >> we have a good idea of the tom contend-- top contenders no. who should we be keeping the closest eye on right now? >> reporter: it feels like we have seen different names coming into the public eye as people who are in contention. someone like gretchen witmer had fallen out of the public conversation for several weeks leading a lot of people thinking maybe she wasn't in the running. it sort of hammers home. as soon as we reported she had met with joe biden last weekend for several hours in delaware, it became clear she was in that final group of women who is under consideration and the other names that you hear are sue ssan rice, kamala harris, elizabeth warren. tammy duckworth. there's the public conversation and clearly what's going on behind the scenes which is other
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names that maybe not in the public view right now but who could still be top of miepnd fo the former vice president. as he's making this decision, there's the personal aspect of it which we thoroughly reported this idea of someone who is sypatico and also someone who can speak to what the party wants now. someone who can contend the the pandemic and the civil unrest around racial justice. a lot going into this pick that's political, strategic and personal. >> thank you. one person who has a lot to say about joe biden's potential running mate is former democratic presidential nominee is hillary clinton. she spoke about the selection process on am joy pulling from her own experience back in 2016.
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>> i think he has very good choices. i'm excited about whoever it is that he picks based on the people that have been made public in terms of his interest in them and their being vetted and even meeting with them. he has to have somebody that would be ready to be our president. somebody that he wants to work with and somebody who can help him win. >> joining me now, former national political director for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. you worked for the campaign in 2016. a lot of people said tim kaine was the safe choice. how make or break was the decision for number two. >> this is a biggest relationship this very moment in the campaign. in addition there really is a moment for campaign leadership as well. how do you bring these families together? one that's been in the trenches for some period of time and how do you add the new energy that a
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person can bring. that a vice presidential candidate can bring. there's no doubt we had a lot of conversations about many of these women who will widen the base. who will widen the expertise in office. i have to tell you, i still remember right before both of them, secretary clinton and secretary kaine walked out on that stage. what you see is the heavy weight of responsibility to step up to lead the nation. i think about that in these days as we're entering that moment where somebody is going to be stepping into that role to say now it's time to lead the nation. i'm sheer right next to joe biden to do this and make sure it happens. it's an kpieexciting time. no doubt it's a very personal, political, strategic decision that the campaign is going through and that joe biden is going through. >> in this morning's interview clinton said sexism has already been playing in the veepstakes.
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let's listen. >> the trump campaign has not been successful in the many absurd attacks they've made on joe biden. they've tried just about everything they can think of, not that they will stop because that's the only way they think they can win. they're going to go after whoever he puts on the ticket. which ever woman no matter how accomplished. i think all of us should learn from the past that there are these biases and attituded about week seeking power. we've got to defend the right of women to seek and hold power and i think we're going to have a lot of practice on that as soon as joe names his choice. >> knowing that the former vice president has already announced that he will be picking woman. what are you going to be looking for in the next few days as we hear who it is that will join him on the ticket? >> the exciting part is seeing what is happening in the ecosystem of women everywhere saying we're all going to get together and we're not going to let these sexist comments stand. we'll be there supporting
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whomever it is. i think that's the beauty of what we have seen in this election cycle is a whole slate of women. not just women in 2018 but running for president and now being talked about for vice president. i have to say the energy around that is palpable. the letters that are going around behind the scenes to make sure that any woman out there has a fair shot and is ready for the avenue ralanche of what's c. when you look at the polls for trump, he's got to be worry about what women are thinking and what he's done for women or how he's spoken to women when you have the excitement about a vice presidential candidate on the ticket with joe biden. i'm excited the see what's happening out there but the energy with women around is exciting and is ready. >> thank you so much for your time today. good to have you. we have a lot more to come this hour. new revolutions shed a new light on manhattan da's legal case
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involving president trump and it's not good news for the president. later this hour, st. louis cardinals all star shortstop joins us after testing positive for covid. how he feels about coming back the play now. how he feels about coming back e play now discomfort back there? instead of using aloe, or baby wipes, or powders. try the cooling, soothing relief of preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. try new soothing relief. verizon knows how to build unlimited right. you start with the network jd power has named the most awarded for network quality 25 times in a row. then, give people more plans to mix and match, so you only pay for what you need. verizon's unlimited plan is so reasonable, they can stay on for the rest of their lives. include the best in entertainment and offer it all starting at $35. plus, $700 off our best phones when you switch. because everyone deserves the best. the is unlimited built right. only on verizon.
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pay $25 million settlement related to the trump university. later in 2018, a new york time special investigation uncovered how the president's involvement in dubious take schemes throughout the 90s allowed him to mass $414 million fortune contradicting the self-made billionaire nar tirative he tou. then his tax returns and refusal to release them made him the first since 1976 to publicize his records. last monday, the president's finances may not be a mystery for much longer. they argue the president should be forced to comply with the subpoena for his tax documents and suggested his company, the trump organization, was under investigation for alleged insurance and bank fraud. not long after that, the new york times reported that deutsche bank, president trump's
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long time lender had been issued a issue fsubpoena. prosecutors after years of legal hurdles may finally have those records in their hands. joining us now to break down what this all means is wnyc reporter and cohost of trump podcast. i'd like to start with what we're hearing from prosecutors. you've been following the business dealings of the trump family for years. every time i do, it's like a web. you just keep pulling and more comes out. do you think we're going to learn anything that we don't already know from these new documents? >> what i think is so interesting about what's happening right now is we're now in the middle of the grand jury process and grand jury processes normally are completely secret. they are conducted in secret. because president trump sued the district attorney to block his investigation and block the grand jury, information has started spilling out into the public. it should be said, the president
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had lost in the courts every step of the way going all the way up to the supreme court. now that it's been kicked back to lower court, the president is again trying to block the investigation and what we saw the district attorney say this past week was enough. the supreme court has decided this. i'm going to tell you a little bit of what is in our investigation. that includes bank and insurance frauds and if you're a reporter who covers this stuff, it's satisfying to see that the grand jury and the district attorney are interested in a lot of the same stuff that we are, which is a pattern of saying one thing to lenders and one thing to tax authorities. one thing to insurers and one thing to the government about profitability, about occupancy. this pattern has been ef did he understand for a long time. michael cohen spoke about it. my reading of the district attorney's filing is that is going to be an important part of his investigation.
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it's not just filing false business records but it could be other crimes which would elevate filing false business records to a felony, potentially. it's an investigation and it's active now. >> we set up some of the context but there's so much more and i want to get back, a little bit more in the background. in 2017 you published an article about ivanka and donald trump junior how they came close to an indictment. the case was dropped months later. what happened there? >> yeah, that's right. the district attorney at the time when this all began in 2010 was cyrus vance junior. he was investigating real estate fraud committed by donald trump junior and ivanka trump. they were taking the lead in
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marketing a new trump property, new at the time called the trump soho. it was a condo hotel so people could buy shares in this building. they talked about it as the biggest and the best and hottest ticket and everybody wanted to get in on it. in 2010, the economy was in tail spin and very little interest in buying into this building. prices were really high. they had to meet at 15% thresholds in order to close any of the sales. they had this chicken egg problem. what the district attorney uncovered in the investigation was a, we believe, the fact that don junior and ivanka knew and understood they were misrepresenti inin ining sales o potential buyers. they said yes we already sold 15% or these are going like hot cakes when it was very little interest. that investigation went on for about two years.
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donald trump's lawyer made a donation to cy vance. he got a immediating. although he returned the money, there's always been this question of the level of contact that was happening between trump's lawyer and the district attorney and in the end, cy vance overruled his own line attorneys and decided not to move forward and impanel a grand jury and try to bring indictments. >> i'm sure you could fill hours and hours of our programs with what you have uncovered. we'll have to leave it there. thank you. >> good to talk to you. still to dom, communities of color may face extra obstacles when it comes to getting a vaccine. the brides caught in a viral moment right before the explosion in beirut is telling her story, next. explosion in beirut is telling her story, next. mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid arthritis. when considering another treatment,
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as the world rushes to create an effective coronavirus vaccine, one of the biggest demographics being affected by the virus r, communities of col, right be one of the last to sever it. the u.s. still lacks a plan for dispursing a vaccine in underserved areas and communities of color. areas where minorities are skeptical about government out reach. just one in three americans said they would not get a vaccine even if the vaccine were fda approved and free. joining me now the president and ceo of the national minority quality foreign. you told politico as part of the article that the ground work has not yet been lads id to persuad minority populations. what needs to be done? >> i think the problem starts with clinical trials.
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the challenge is to make sure that the clinical trials are diverse. that's where the science will get established. they need to make sure the data is there when they ask about the advisability of taking one of these vaccines. the provider will have science to back up the recommendations. >> do you think there needs to be a push to persuade residents to persuade them? >> i think the answer is yes. the challenge right now is, these new vaccines are being launched under a different protocol. a rapid protocol. not the traditional way in which we developed vaccines in the past. it takes four years, five years before a vaccine is ready. we're talking about accelerating all of that maybe down to 6, 7,
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8 months. the public need to be brought along. they need to understand how these new tests are being designed. how the science is being accomplished so people feel as if it's safe to take the vaccine. >> absolutely. we know that communities of color are disproportionately affected by virus. now there's reporting that children are included in that. npr saying hispanic and black children were more likely to require hospitalization for the virus than white children. i've seen some reasons being reported is that family members are essential workers. many live in multigenerational housing, social distancing is hard. what do you think is contributing to this and what do we need to do about it? >> the real challenge is, again, we don't have the science. that's really what's needed right now. we don't know if there are biology differences that make them more susceptible?
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is it social determinants, housing? is it comorbid conditions like asthma and diabetes? the only way to get to the answer to those questions is we have to have the science. the science is not really being undertak undertaken, at least at a national coordinated way in which we can answer these questions very quickly. >> so good to have you today. thank you for your exper teed. we appreciate it. today marks the 75th a verse ri of the nagasai atomic bomb. it killed more than 70,000 people. today the city held a moment of silence. survivors and city officials also called for the international community to work toward a nuclear weapons ban. nagasaki was the second and final time a nuclear bomb was used in war and japan surrendered less than a week
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lat later. now turning to beirut. it's been another day of clashes between citizens and police as the public still reels in anger from last week's deadly explosion. several thousands protesters mashed through the street as they demand a regime change. they were met with tear gas. demonstrators occupied for government ministries in the city. by the time every one was off the street, more than 700 people were hurt. lebanese security forces reported one death among their force. a touching story amid the virus. you may have seen this viral video of a bride posing for photos. the photographer capturing the moment the explosion happened. watch this. the woman in the video is a doctor from michigan. they went on the hold their wedding celebrations. so thankful that are okay.
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she spoke with nbc this morning. >> well, as i mentioned the people there were screaming and crying, injured and bleeding. i couldn't think about myself. i just have to take care of people. i told myself i have to start thinking of other people. i check a couple of persons there who were injured from the blast. i tried to relax them and told them they are still live. they are doing good. all they have to do is relax and press on the injury they have on the shoulder. as soon as possible, when ever they have the chance to go to the er to get some help and treatment. >> an amazing story. we are glad they are okay. incredible act of selflessness there.
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the lek, theelection, there areg republicans who find themselves unsure of where to turn. we caught up with moderate republican voters in kent county, michigan as part of our county to county series. >> the last time you and i met was in march. at that time you and your husband were both working full-time. your kids were in school. how has your life changed since then? >> how has my life change? we went through the kids not going to school to trying to work from home to try to educate our children from home as well. i'm trying to balance the cancellation of life, essentially. >> how has your political life, political landscape changed? >> i'm turning into more of an angry person than i think i've been in my entire life. that makes me sad. i just want to countdown to november now and hoping we wake up from this nightmare we're living in. >> when you and i first met you had a term you used for your
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political identity. >> politically homeless. >> how has the stakes changed since we first met? >> i think we're seeing on a daily basis the delegitimizing of pillars of our society, of institutions of government. everything from covid testing to choices that we've got to make about education for our kids and there's a void of leadership at the top. >> jerry, i think you're still probably furthest to the right of this group. when we first met, you were echoing a lot of the president's language. you called impeachment a witch hunt. what made you go from pretty solidly for trump to backing away from that and now winding up more on the fence? >> some of his statements. some of the bafoonery, his actions and also when he said
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that, well we're just going to knock this right down. that's ain't going to happen. >> what do you think he should have done differently? >> not had it so blaise, blaise, we'll take care of this. the bravado. that's kind of irking me at this point. >> you did vote for donald trump in 2016. you thought his business background, he could be a leader that could bring america forward in various ways. how has this crisis made you think differently not just about the president but in general about what leadership should look like and how important it is? >> the businessman ideal was what was the attraction there. i can see from the leaders, the company i work for to all across corporate america. there's no reason the guy in the white house can't do it. >> the president, both candidates, are looking at the
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suburbs. they want to win over suburbs like the ones here in kent county. the president has been campaigning on this law and order message in places like this. is that resonating? >> i think it's kind to backfire. i think that the type of law and order that he thinks he's promoting is not the type of law and order that resonates with suburban voters. >> you're right. these aren't suburban moms, we aren't 1950s housewives anymore. we are strong women who are trying to raise families while working full-time out of the home. a lot of us are. to make us think we're going to be this defund the police thing and we're going to be over run in our community by all these bad people is ludicrous. >> jerry, when i talk to people about voters, a lot of people say how can you still be on the
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fence. people wonder how are some voters still undecided. how are some voters on the fence? how do you answer the question? >> i'll be on fence until i walk in there. i'm sure we'll talk between now and then once the decision is made for a vice presidential pick. i'll just leave it at that. i want to see a platform. i know what the right platform is. i know what donald trump's platform is. now i want to see what joe biden and whoever he picks is. >> still undecided. thank you. straight ahead, i'll be joined by st. louis cardinals all star shortstop to talk about his positive tests for covid. what it means for the future of baseball season and what he's doing to help others in this pandemic. g to help others in ths pandemic
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year. cardinals shortstop is supposed to be taking part in field of dreams game this weekend but the game is cancelled. deyoung is home and he and other teammates tested positive for coronavirus. he had not been insulted if you called him a science geek has been working on some special projects involving covid with some expert help. joining me now, paul deyoung and that help, chemist lawrence rocks. thanks to both of you. how are you feeling? >> i feel great. thanks for asking. i've been symptom free for about five days. i lost my taste and smell. i can't smell my essential oil diffusers but other than that i'm fortune to have had a mild case. >> does your test change any of your thoughts about whether baseball should have returned? >> no. i think we all want to be out there. fortunately, we're all young and healthy and we can kind of play
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through some stuff. unfortunately, we've had a bit of stoppage. a lot of us tested again today. hopefully we have some positive momentum moving forward. >> the nba using their bubble. some players still deciding not to play across the league. how the you think the sports world has handled the virus? >> i think our protocols have been strong. we followed them. it didn't work out for me and a few of my teammates. i think we all value playing over not playing. no matter what that scenario looks like. we'll have to continue to try to stay safe as much as possible. now hopefully i can move on and be healthy the rest of the season. >> are you worried at some point the season may be cancelled? >> there's been only a couple of outbreaks from us and the
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marlins. the rest of the league still looks strong. i'm hoping it continues that way. we still have a month and a half and hopefully that's enough time to get in without anything spiraling. >> you've joined forces to advocate for public health. can you talk to us about your work? >> first was the mask. the mask we're using now is all wrong. the virus passes too much virus and it should have activated carbon in the mask because that's the world's best abs absorbent and should come in plastic bag. people should take mask out of the bag, put it on. carefully take it off and put it back in the bag. fingering the mask just spreads the virus around. if the mask is not handle properly, it will do more harm than good. >> interesting information concerning how hard it is to get
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masks, let alone as one as advanced as the one you're talking about pit. >> it could have been simple two months ago i recommended a mask type that wouldn't shed fibers in people's throats. the carbon filter and come in a little plastic bag. it didn't happen. the other thing i'm working on is now consuming me very much. it's a cure for the covid-19 virus. the vaccine takes time to develop and then it is given to healthy people. see what happens with them.
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it deals with the genome in the covid virus. we're ready for testing stage fp if it mutates, it will be killed. other viruses will be just as susceptible. >> no doubt we have trust in your research, doctor. we should mention nbc news hasn't confirmed any of those results. paul, my last question to you. we heard masks and how they should have a carbon filtser. talk to us about kind of masks
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you're getting as opposed to the general public. >> we still use the surgical style masks. n-95 masks when we travel on the plane. hand sanitizing stations everywhere. encourage mask use everywhere. every one seems to be doing their part. we're not going out. we're not socializing outside. we're doing everything, following these protocols because we want the play and we value that the most. >> thank you both. >> wraps things up for me this hour. thank you for watching. news continues next. stay with us. news continuesex n. stay with us - oh. - what's going on?
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very good sunday to you. i'm richard lui. this hour sending relief for hurting americans. how to do it remains a mile wide divide. the president from his golf resort in new jersey threw himself into the mix deciding to bypass congress with a series of executive orders. with millions now unable to pay rent and bills or put food on the table, the white house says the move was vital. democrats and even some republicans call it an unconstitutional side show. that's not the only big divide right
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