very good sunday to you. i'm richard lui. this hour sending relief for hurting americans. how to do it remains a mile wide divide. the president from his golf resort in new jersey threw himself into the mix deciding to bypass congress with a series of executive orders. with millions now unable to pay rent and bills or put food on the table, the white house says the move was vital. democrats and even some republicans call it an unconstitutional side show. that's not the only big divide right now.

the fall semester is days away and still no coast to coast consensus on how to get kids back to class safely. also shlgs the hunt for a veep is narrowing for joe biden. we have the preview of attacks no matter who she is. we'll start this hour with aide for americans and aid for businesses gone on this day. the white house is on defense from potential legal challenges. the target is the president's series of executive actions that bypass congress. the unilateral moves including a temporary pause on payroll taxes that fund social security and medicare. tom democra top democrats have slammed the action. >> i agree with the republican

said it was unconstitutional slop. while it has the illusion of saying we're going to have a moratorium on evictions, it says i'm going to ask the folks in charge to study if that is feasible. he says he's going to do the payroll tax, what he's doing is undermining social security and medicare. these are illusions. >> kelly, that was statement from pelosi this morning. one of the big questions is will the president's moves which are getting a lot of criticism and his team defending it, that prompt a new round of negotiations which all sides agree a legislative solution is the best possible outcome where you would have congress agreeing to pass a bill and the president agreeing to sign it to provide this kind of relief.

absent that, we don't have any negotiations scheduled that we're aware of, the president did inject themselves by trying to put some of these short term steps in place. the president doesn't have the power to determine some of these issues that are really the constitutional business of congress. in the short return under emergency services and the national man demonstra pandemic to do some moving around of money that's been appropriated. that's part of what he's talking about here. a reduced benefit. instead of 600, it would be 400. that expired more than a week ago and families who have been needing that money have gone without any except for state benefits. when it comes to the payroll tax, this is one of the president's pet projects that he's long argued for a reduction of the payroll tax as a way to

get money in the people's pocket. that would not be taken out of your paycheck and then you have more money to spend. the down side is that payroll tax funds social security and medicare and keeping that safe and solvent is very important. the president says he has the authority to stop the election of that tax. that doesn't make the tax go away. it gives people the final months of the year to have more in their paycheck which the president argues they would er it's wrong way the go about. the president seds he believes it will put money in people's pockets. will it be challenge in that's expected. no democratic leaders were first in line to say let's say sue. there's more of a push to say is there way to get negotiations going again. from the white house side, peter navarro tried to defend today

the legality of what they are doing saying they worked on the steps the president signed with their lead counsel at the white house in order to take these steps. here is how he described that process. >> one of the things i learned at the white house going through a lot of work on executive orders is what we have the statutory authorities to do. i'm confident every one of those will stand up. >> reporter: that's something to be determined. if there are seats brought that could slow down or put a hold on all of these steps that the president says he wants the take. another big question, richard, is when would individuals receive any of this benefit. if he can stop the payroll tax being collected, that would start in september. for the enhanced federal benefit, he's got a system where

states would have to chip in $100 per week and then the federal government puts in the 300. that's how you get to 400. if a governor doesn't sign onto that, it doesn't happen. how quickly can they have the mechanics of getting those checks issued. there remain a lot of questions. in part, what the president did is a political act to try to put himself in middle of this. he's trying to help those who are in need and it may spur further negotiations. that's something we'll be watching very closely. >> thank you. online or in person classes? the answer is far ranging as many districts will start the school year this week, in 24 hours. florida top education official sent a letter to a county school board friday saying it must offer a face-to-face option for students. hillsboro county move towards

online only classes violates the man date for resuming instruction this year. the florida education association is challenging the governor emergency order in court. the case has not yet been decided. let's go to florida. chris, a lot of back and forts here. how does it look? >> reporter: the governor has reiterated hi position saying that order stands. every county in the state, possibly within the exception of miami dade and broward. the two hardest hit areas that every other county, every other school district should be offering in person learning in some form or fashion this fall. as you mentioned, the education director as well also reiterated this ruling. they want children coming back to school. you mentioned that there's one lawsuit. we know of three throughout the state trying to overturn this

mandate that there be in person education here in the fall. teachers and their unions who are mostly filing these lawsuits say that despite all the practices that the school districts are putting into place, they still feel they are putting lives at risk by having children come back into the school building. >> what are moms and dads saying? >> reporter: it's a gut wrenching decision anywhere around the country. this is orange county. this is the orlando area. they are starting school here. for the first nine days they will do online only. parents who opted in will be bringing their children to school or having their children come to school and parent who is said no, will be keeping them at home. when that decision was due about

37% of parents said we're going to send our children physically to school and about 63% will be keeping them home. parents are torn. there's so many factors that go into it. your economic status, your abilities to get day care, your ability to work from home. a lot of parents rely on schools to have their children during the school year but at the same time they don't want to put the whole family at risk. we have covered them in mississippi, tennessee and georgia where week one you had multiple cases of coronavirus. very difficult. with just 86 days until the presidential election, the veepstakes countdown counts with

a roar as joe biden comes close to announcing who he will choose to be his running mate. how many times have we asked you this question. we have 86 more days to ask you. what's the latest? >> reporter: hopefully it's not 86 more days. there's eight days until the democratic national convention. the thinking is we'll have to have a vp by then. although there's the eight-daytime limit, we're told by sources close to the process that the former vice president is getting closer to a pick much as he's consulted family throughout various other important decisions, he's doing the same this weekend huddled with family as he makes his fiej choice. we know what he's looking for in a vice president. having served for eight years in this position himself, he knows that the personal relationship

is something that's really important and as i've been talking with sources and former vp said this himself, sympatico is the word he uses to describe his idea running mate. hopefully it's not 86 days. i'm thinking just eight here. >> who is being seen as the offensive choice and who is being seen as the defensive choice? >> reporter: the thinking around vice presidential picks is always do no harm. when you look at polls across the board and i know they are imperfect metrics especially this far out but the reality is a lot of polls tell you that joe biden does have substantial ground in some states and closer ground in others but he's leading president trump right now. ut doesn't necessarily have to be a geographic pick to appeal toll various part of the party. instead a pick that does no harm.

the position is one that is strong. the reality is, there are parts of the party that are clamoring to have a woman of color be his running mate. other parts are clamoring for someone who is more progressive. there are these things feed sboog the decision not to mention the fact that once this person is chosen, there's going to have to be a proof of purchase really they can deal with the recession, pandemic and the civil unrest that's been going on around racial injustice across the country. all of these things really fe feeding into is vice presidential puzzle. >> thank you so much. the most powerful quake in a state and more than 100 years hit near the town of sparta around 8:00 eastern time. some buildings were damaged and roads cracked but no major injuries reported. the earthquake was felt in every

neighboring state and as far away as ohio. 75 years ago today, the united states dropped an atomic bomb on the stipcity of nagasai. japan honored70,000 people who died. a week later, japan surrendered bringing an end to world war ii. the decision for president harry s.truman to use the bomb has been debated ever since. today the mayor is urging world leaders to ban the use of such weapons. those who survive will never forget the impact of that day. harry smith spoke with a survivor on the ground when that happened. >> july 16th, 1945. of that first successful detonation of a nuclear weapon in new mexico, robert oppenheimer, the head of the los alamos laboratory reacted this

way. >> line from the hindu scripture. i suppose we all thought that one way or another. >> tens of thousands die instantly. >> we shall competely destroy japan's power to make war. >> three days later, nagasaki is the target with a similar result. his grandmother insisted he come down. >> if he stayed on that roof on the bomb exploded, we would have been burned to a crisp. this is after the a bomb. >> howard says one way to understand the horror of that day is to look at the numbers of american lives lost thus far to

covid-19. >> that took eight months. >> the arms race was on. baby boomers were taught to do this. >> what was sort of ludicrous, we all had drilled to hide under our desks. >> ambassador wendy cherman negotiated nuclear control issues with north korea and iran. >> they are the only times in history that nuclear weapons have been used. what did the world learn from that? >> the world learned that nuclear weapons should only be a deterrence, not a war fighting weapon. now it appears that many countries are considering that there might come a time when they would use a nuclear weapon.

>> while the u.s. and russian stockpiles are shadows of their former sell selves, north korea looks to have 20 or more and iran seems to be inching toward a nuclear weapon. >> do you think someone would make a purposefully wrong decision and use a neuclear weapon? >> i hope not. i don't think there's any country that really wants a nuclear war but i think through inadvertent or accident you could see an escalation that might take us there. >> it's important that we understand the misery and terror and death it causes.

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welcome back. in some parts of the country kids have started heading back to school. other districts are still trying to determine what a return to the classroom might look like. the california most k through 12 will start online. some parents and teachers are uneasy about the idea of long term remote learning.

kindergarten teacher looks forward to making online learning fun for students. >> this is a youtube generation, right? they are so used to surfing through youtube video, choosing what they want to watch. how do we grab these kids attention. we're the kindser rockets. we do our best. hence the astronaut helmet. >> ben, you got my attention. you also got the attention of nbc scott cohen who is in san jose, california. that's something. you probably seen that video too. what's latest in california that you're watching. >> reporter: nearly all of the students in california will be starting out the school year virtually. here in san jose, they will start on wednesday of this week. every one had a little bit of practice after they went virtual suddenly and had the summer to regroup.

there are wrinkles, for example here in san jose. they are telling teachers they need to teach the virtual classes from the classrooms with the idea that there's a better wi-fi connection. they have the classroom materials. that created some concern among some of the teachers, for sure, who are being required to come back to school. he's being allowed to teach from his master bathroom. he has issues as well even though he slids into this virtual learning seamlessly. he is dealing with a classroom of students, none of whom he's met in person. >> i think these personal touch, these things calling parents, even sending mail home. just getting your phone out because i could teach from anywhere. it's not going to be the greatest lesson if i'm in middle

of yosemite. i can teach from anywhere as long as i have a phone and data. and my friend here will make the lessons more interesting. >> reporter: made the interview more interesting as well. one of the things he says is people should be looking at the technology kind of like they looked at old fashioned classroom decknolotechnology. stiemgs the connection isn't going to work. sometimes everything isn't going to be perfectly but i guess that's what learning is all about. >> what are students in california saying to these options? >> reporter: there's not a whole lot of choice in terms of for the vast majority. something like 97% of the students are going to be learning online. the question is can they replicate the quality to the extent that's possible when they are doing virtual learning versus inperson learning. the issue is right now they

won't have any choice. remember just over this past week we learned about a glitch in the data system here in california. it's going to be that much longer before the schools are allowed to consider reopening. >> thank you so much. the cruise industry is setting sail again in some parts of the world but not without some turbulence. we have the story from brussels. >> reporter: just as the cruise industry is restarting its engines, quite literally, there are reports of out breaks. most recently in norway. there's 62 confirmed infections so far. 21 passengers, 41 crew members.

we spoke the the mayor and he thinks the lifting of restrictions came just a little too early. take a listen. >> i think we have to be prepared when we open the society. a lot of governments around europe open up. we have to open up. now we can see maybe too early. maybe we should wait after the holidays. >> reporter: it's a bit of a stop and start situation here in europe. we see infections going up in some places. this is important as more than

50% of cruise ship travelers, pre-covid are americans. this is a big deal for the industry. at the peak there was some 50 ships that had reported outbreaks. it is still quite a precarious situation for the industry. there are new rules in place on board the ship. we spoke to some of the passengers on that norweigan ship. they said they are fine with the new rules. they are not put off by this at all. some of them have booked future cruise trips already. this is a silver lining. >> thank you for that report. in front of both the captive crowd and a questioning crowd, there were cheers and jeers at saturday's presidential press conference. the question that may have cut that event short. that event short ♪ ♪

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the united states has hit another unwanted milestone crossing the five million mark for confirmed cases of covid-19.

with the election 86 darys away the president's response is playing a crucial response to the pandemic. the first 2020 battleground electoral map and shows joe biden with 334 and president trump getting 125, 79 of those electoral votes up for grabs. many americans are looking to their leaders for help during the pandemic as negotiations with congress stalled this weekend. the president held a press conference of sorts to sign four executive orders aimed at delivering coronavirus relief. they are sure to hit some legal challenges as has been reported. president trump spent time roasting democratic leadership, his political rivals in front of the members in his golf club in new jersey as well as the white

house press corps. when the reporters started to ask tough questions, this is what happened. >> you go around congress and decide -- >> you ever hear the word obstructi obstruction. congress has obstructed. the democrats have obstructed people from getting desperate flieded money. >> right here. >> no, you're finished. >> you pass veterans. you say -- you said veterans choice. it was passed in 2014. it was a false statement, sir. >> thank you very much, everybody. thank you very much. >> a presidential press conference that was. with me now, annie and david jolly. he's a former florida congressman. chris lu. annie, as we said, this is a presidential press conference that included cheers and jeers,

not often seen as well as political attacks all put together. >> and it was the second one in two days. he did a news conference same style on friday night where donzs of his members at the golf course gathered holding wine glasses. most of them not wearing masks to watch. this was almost seemed like a benefit of membership to club goers to see, look at me take on the press. one big reality show as much as it was a news conference to talk about these executive actions that the verdict is out on how much relief they really even give to americans who are in this coronavirus pandemic. he clearly doesn't want to answer the question when called out about a false statement about passing veterans choice. he looks quite angry there at the end when he leaves the

podium. he looks like she got under his skin. it drove home these are set pieces that are looked as much as like they were entertainment for his guests as delivering news and update on a crisis for the american people. >> we had a little bit of everything during that event yesterday. david jolly, one of the points that might be contributing to the president's new type of event, if you will, is looking at the polls. you saw our nbc news battleground map. it doesn't look good. he's got to turn it around. up with of the ways might to get in those republicans on the margin is this the sort of event that would do that? >> no. it's bizarre scene. this is a president who is flailing now. he's reaching for anything.

consider the executive orders are given with shallow thought, with no coordination, with senate republicans. his idea of issuing an executive order requiring predpexisting conditions to be covered. something that is provided for under the law. this is a president who truly is flailing. i will tell you, i don't think anything he does at this point within 100 days moves republicans or democrats one way or another. among the actual persuadable voters, if there are any, those low intensify voters who don't follow every day. the one thing he's done this weekend is suggesting he will defer the payroll tax. i don't think he has a constitutional authority to do it. will raise an interesting narrative if h e tries to give a 7% tax cut to feem between now and election day. it puts democrats in a tough spot because it's tax relief they wouldn't want to pose but

we know what the president is doing only half baked and constitutionally questionable. >> you bring up a good point. chris, putting on your former assistant secretary of labor hat when you look at the 31 million plus americans that are watching this executive order that would fall under the purview of congress. at some point don't care. they want to see some help at moment. what's up in flonts ront of us terms of what may help americans. >> as with so many of the president's executive orders, they are really photo opportunities. it's a chance to give the appearance of activity. he doesn't care if the action really works or if it's legal or constitutional in this case. the regards to the payroll tax cut, that's only meaningful if you have a job. we know that 31 million people are out of work. five million people have left the labor force. a payroll tax cut that destabilizes social security and

medicare is such a bad idea. it's such a bad idea that republicans think it's a bad idea as well. he's cutting that by $200 a week. he has the gall to make that statement at a club that charged $200,000 for fees and he says it's not hardship. i think it will be a hardship for a lot of people trying to figure out how am i going to pay my rent, how am i going to buy groceries. the senate and house reached agreement on a will the of other things including small business loans, stimulus checks, aid to schools and the president walked away from all of that. >> what's going to be different this money that was happening on friday. >> it doesn't look like there

was a lot of places where they could come together. these executive actions were seen as an attempt to get democrats back to the bargaining table to force their hand and make, both sides playing politics with this. these are really not measures. republicans were saying look what president trump is doing to help the american people while the democrats are the ones who aren't willing to come down from their request for more than $3 trillion bail out package. they are both saying they are willing to talk. i don't know what will be different monday than it was on friday. >> has pelosi over played her hand? >> she's acting on conviction. we have to respect that. i do think if you are a low intensity voter, one of those

voters trump is trying to get back in the tent, congress approval ratings are below a president's. this is a bad moment for congress. democrats will say, the house did its job. the senate hasn't done theirs. the senate will say, the democratic bill is too expensive. americans are sitting back and if you're not a high end intensity you're saying why can't capitol hill get the job done. this is where the president stepped in the void. he stepped into the void of a congress unable to get anything done. it puts democrats and republicans on in hill in a tough spot. it's obvious they didn't get the job done in the last two weeks. they have to figure something out. i think you saw that from some of the hill response last night. >> 15 seconds. >> i think the house democrats came to the table with a big proposal that would provide assistance to small businesses to workers. really that ball has been sitting in the senate's court

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for having me on your program to talk about this. we are watching very closely all the measures that are being put in place and discussed in washington. we hope that we're going to see solutions that will put this economy back on track. what i'm focused on is chaexact what you mentioned. how do we help corporate america diversify leadership at the top. it's at the board. they have come together with us at the new york stock exchange to help place diverse board members onto other nysu companies. we had this in place for a year. we had a lot of great progress. very proud of being part of the solution to help diversify corporate america. >> therefore strengthen corporate america during a tough

time. >> this is a more of a demand issue than supply. you hear about the problem over the years that there's not enough people out there to put on -- not enough to diversify to put on boards. it's finding these people that exist out there. this is why we're hoping to span the network of these nyse listed companies. all of us have define network bp by standing the number of people they can tap into through out community we're helping resoever this. pipeline issue. >> you have been covering business news for years. what's different now that you think will allow program, your campaign to work out today? >> you're exactly right.

i used to be sitting not quite at your desk but i was sitting on the anchor desk for many, many year. this issue of diversity has been around for quite some time. you and i both know that ten years ago, diversity was not headline news. investors are demanding more diversity. consumers are demanding more diversity. the public is putting the issue out front. >> if i'm every day consumer deciding where to buy, why should i be watching and how should i be watching this campaign to have more diversity, more inclusion on boards? >> well, i think if you're a consumer and these days younger and younger consumers are very

educated. they know who is behind the product that they buy. this is why companies we help our companies as well are much more public about the information. they are much more transparent about who is -- who is in their c-suite. who is on their board. there's a lot more data out there for people to read. investors are asking the same questions and that's increasing transparency among companies. >> all right. betty, great to see you. the executive vice chairman of the new york stock exchange with that new campaign. thank you so much. >> thank you. as we mentioned earlier this hour, we could find out this week who will join joe biden on the 2020 ticket. up next, andrea mitchell helps us peel back the curtain on why this decision is to high stakes, especially now. ion is to hi sgh, especially now what if i sleep hot? ...or cold?

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herself. it's a decision that carries both the risk and reward, something biden knows well. having gone through same process with barack obama. here is nbc's andrea mitchell with more. >> after months of speculation, joe biden is poised to make the high stakes pick. >> every one of the women i've -- we've interviewed is qualified. and i narrowed it down. >> how many? >> you'll find out shortly. >> reporter: the short list according to sources familiar with the search, camilla harris, his one time colleague, former national security adviser susan rice, and michigan governor gretch gretch gretch gretchen whitmen. history shows running mates can be political assets, a role that biden played before. in 2008, barack obama chose the veteran senator to ease concerns about his own inexperience. >> he's an expert on foreign

policy whose heart and values are firmly rooted in the middle class. >> reporter: in 1960, another rising star john f. kennedy put senate majority leader lyndon johnson on the ticket. the texan hoping jfk win southern voters. >> i this i that he can play a role as vice president, greater, more influential than any vice president in recent times. >> reporter: in 1980, ronald reagan chose his rival george h.w. bush, uniting the party after a bruising republican primary. >> i am recommending to this convention that george bush -- >> reporter: in 1992, bill clinton picked a fellow babyboomer and son of the south, al gore. both reinforcing the case for generational change. >> he has what it takes to lead this nation from the day we take office. >> reporter: still, some vice-presidential candidates have famously backfired. in 1972, george mcgovern chose fellow senator thomas egelton

without et having hvetting him. he had to drop out amid allegations he was hospitalized for depression. in 1984, walter mondale tried to jump-start his campaign against incumbent ronald reagan with a historic choice of a woman for vice president. >> i looked for the best vice president and i found her in jeri ferraro. >> she was forced to disclose her finances and husband's business practices. >> at no time did i violate any trust placed in me by my constituents. >> reporter: in 2008, john mccain aiming for a hail mary tested a governor whom he barely knew for the governor. >> govern sarah palin of the great state of alaska. >> she had a successful rollout, firing up conservatives. she stumbled in interviews raising questions about her knowledge and experience when

asked by katie couric what newspaper she read to stay informed about the world. >> i read most of them again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media. >> but which one specifically, i'm curious. >> all of them. any of them. >> andrea mitchell reporting for us. thank you for that. tonight our own kasey hunt is goi kacie hunt is going to be on countdown to the vp pick. that wraps it up for this hour. the reverend al sharpton takes over at the top of the hour. that's coming up next on "politics nation." coming up nen "politics nation." second chances. but a subaru can. (dad) you guys ok? (vo) eyesight with pre-collision braking. standard on the subaru ascent. the three-row subaru ascent. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

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good evening and welcome to "politicsnation" where we have an a for effort. plenty of questions and a great deal of concern the day after president trump signed a series of executive orders he claims will address the economic cliff. much of america is hanging from. at the core of the president's order, an additional $400 unemployment benefit along with payroll tax relief and assistance to borrowers coming as the t