well, tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m. we'll be able to listen in as ten judges hear that appeal in the mike flynn case. that should be fascinating. that does it for us tonight. see you tomorrow. raising concern, governors are calling for action. also new overnight the trump administration is reportedly considering a proposal that would block americans from re-entering the country if they are suspected of having the coronavirus. and a secret service agent abruptly escorts the president out of a briefing with reporters after a shooting near the white house.

good tuesday morning, everybody. it is august 11th, and i'm yasmin vossoughian. we've got a lot to cover this morning. several governors are expressing their outrage over a lack of clear directives from the president's clear actions aimed at providing coronavirus relief. most notably, the leaders have taken issue with states being responsible for 25% of the administration's unemployment measure as tax revenues plummet and costs continue to increase. democratic governor andrew cuomo estimates it would cost his state $4 billion. >> governor mark dewine says he has no plan to do as trump's

order demands. they're calling for a cohesive nation all strategy to address the economic fallout. in a joint statement the group chaired by governor cuomo and vice-chaired by the governor of arkansas called on the white house, two with congress to, quote, come up with a workable solution. when asked when payments will be delivered to struggling americans, the president relayed the message to secretary treasurer steve mnuchin. here was the time change. >> can you give us a time frame? >> within a week or two. >> mr. secretary, you're saying when? >> in the next week or two, most states will be able to execute. >> have all the governors signed onto this? >> we just had a meeting with the governors.

they were very ayn just to get money for the people in their states, and depending on the state, we have the right do what we want do. we can terminate the 25% or we don't have to do that. we'll see what it is. >> all right. so republican senator ben sasse who called the president's executive orders unconstitutional slop over the weekend is hit back after being called out by the president on twitter over the weekend said this, rino ben sasse, who needed my support and endorsement in order to get the republican nomination for senate from the great state of nebraska has now that he's got it gone rogue again. he said, since he moved our conversation from private to public, here we are. he went on. i understand you've been frustrated. i didn'tdown your re-election committee and then i ran a

primary ad admitting to nebraskans we sometimes agree and sometimes disagree. you also know i never asked for your endorsement nor did i use it in the campaign. none of my disagreements are personal. on the topic that had you mad this weekend, no president, whether named obama or trump or biden or aoc -- has unilateral power to rewrite immigration law or to cut taxes or to raise taxes. this is because america doesn't have kings. he said looks more like a gym rat rather than a u.s. senator. >> absentee ballots were mailed out across the state of virginia. >> it's a disaster. all over virginia, half a

million votes, so that's something you have to think about. we don't to have a rigged election, i know that, and you have to be very careful when you mention as you constantly do russia or you mention china or you mention iran or others that attack our election system. and when you have this mail-in voting, it's a -- it's very susceptible. it's something that can be easily attacked by foreign countries and by, frankly, democrats and by republicans, and i think that it's something you have to start thinking about very seriously. our system's not equipped for it. the post office is not equipped for it. >> all right. so last week the center for voter information acknowledged that it had mailed approximately

half a million applications for absentee ballots to voters in virginia containing a return envelope addressed to the wrong election office. the virginia department of elections, which was not involved with the mailer said in a statement this. any applications that arrive in the wrong locality's office will be forwarded immediately to the correct office for processing. and asked about intelligence showing foreign interference in the upcoming election, particularly russia's meddling, the russians instead blame democrats. >> the other day they said the three countries. they said china, russia, and iran, and some reporter got up and said russia is meddling. i said, didn't it mention china and iran? why didn't you mention them too? you know what i'm telling you? i'll tell you who's meddling in our elections. the democrats are meddling by wanting and insisting on mail-in ballots where there's corruption all over the place. >> so president trump yesterday explained he would rather hold

the g7 meeting after the election instead of next month. he also said he would invite russian president vladimir putin despite germany's objections to that. >> i'm much more inclined to do it sometime after the election. we were going to do it sometime in september. we could do it through teleconference or a meeting, but i sort of am now suggesting -- i told my people, yesterday actually, why don't we do it sometime after the election when things are a little bit -- you have a little more time though about it because it's very important. the g7 is very important. [ indiscernible ] >> i don't know. but we have invited a number of people to the meeting. i certainly would invite him to the meeting. i think he's an important factor, but we will invite certain people that aren't in the g7. >> all right. joining me now, national political reporter for politico,

alaina snyder. good to see you this morning. let's talk about the president's comments when it comes to mail-in voting and how he's equating it to russian election interference. there's no evidence to suggest there's any corruption when it comes to mail-in voting across this country. in fact, a lot of states have already instituted it locally within their states. what impact if at all does this have on his re-election campaign, what he is doing when it comes to talking about mail-in voting? >> we weighed out this question clearly. was answering in response to a question from a reporter questioning whether or not he had raised concerns about election interference from russia and he redirected it to an area where he feels same it ignores very little evidence that there's any fraud

associated with mail-in voting. in fact, five states are all mail-in states. in terms of what sort of impact this might have ultimately for himself, i mean, look, it may very well encourage or, excuse me, discourage republicans from using mail-in voting as a way to vote for this president if they're so inclined. so it has the chance of hurting support for him because we've learned there's no disadvantage to mail-in voting. >> let's talk about also relief negotiations with states. states say they need money. they've been hit hard by the coronavirus especially with the shutdown since spring. you have state speaking out now that they're 25% responsible for

insurance. they were hoping it would fall on the government because they're hurting so much. despite the comments by the president, is congress any closer to an agreement when it comes to relief measures. >> at this point i don't think so. and i think the measures that president trump signed are evidence of that. he doesn't feel like talks with congress has proceeded in a way that there is going to be some sort of, you know, results for all the last two weeks of conversations between the trump administration and house democrats. and this is a way to circumvent those negotiations so he can try to present to voters, look, i'm doing what i can to try to fix this. again, using his words here, the house democrats are not helping me. they would harshly push against that saying they're pushing toward these measures, saying they want negotiations. look. the states themselves have been seeking more money and support from the federal government. so they're certainly displeased with asking to pony up money themselves, money they may not

be in a position to actually give. so this sort of shows how far this is off the rails in terms of where negotiations stand in congress. >> all right. politico's elena schneider. stay close. i'm going to talk to you again in just a little bit. still ahead, lawyers want details about the attorney general's investigation into president trump's personal business. also later a new warning from dr. anthony fauci about the difficult road ahead if the united states has to deal with dual outbreaks of the coronavirus and the flu this fall. those stories and a check on your weather when we come back. k we miss you. it's totally not the same without you. we miss your "let's do this" look. the sound of your laugh cry screams. and how you make every day here the best day ever. we can't wait to get you back so we've added temp checks, face coverings, social distancing and extra sanitizing to get the good times going again.

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welcome back. the president's attorneys have asked a federal judge for a hearing whether new york prosecutors should be required to reveal the scope of their investigation into the president and his business practices.

"the new york times" is reporting that a letter filed with district judge victor marrero disputed the d.a.'s claim to having a wide legal basis to seek eight years of the president's financial records. the president's attorneys expressed disbelief that the investigation was broader than alleged hush money payments to cover up affairs that the president denies, a suggestion that prosecutors made just last week. but even if more extensive financial crimes are being investigated, they argue the subpoena is still too broad and prosecutors should justify each and every document that they request. also, republican senator ron johnson of wisconsin has issued a subpoena to fbi director christopher wray. it's the first subpoena on the investigation into russian election interference. according to politico, the subpoena is for documents only, not testimony. it demands, quote, this, all

documents related to the probe. he attempted to counter the argument that his probe will air conspiracy theories. johnson writes, quote, it is neither me, chairman grassley, or our kmut tees being used to dissem mate russian discrimination. puppet masters in the kremlin could not be more pleased at the political division and discord that has been driven by the resistance movement against president trump. msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos joined es me this mor. good morning. >> good morning. >> in this letter that i mention, they talk about hunter

biden and burisma as well. talk about this, danny. >> the subpoena duces tecum is for documents only. it may be revealed to more than one person in a committee. the documents can be from all over and the republicans on the committee can build a case from whatever circumstantial evidence they can get from all those documents, but it is a broad swath of documents for a very broad investigation. if you'll recall, last december the inspector general for the justice department concluded that although the initial russia investigation was valid, the fbi made a lot of mistakes. this is going before a pre-mueller report era. it was the genesis of that mueller report and the inspector general report. it's taken us several years back. to that end, senator johnson is talking about the possibility of

joe and hunter biden actually having ukraine connections that were -- well, let's just say, not great. and so -- and he says in his letter specifically, there's been a lot of reporting that hunter and joe biden did nothing wrong, and the senator says, i couldn't disagree more. so for those folks who think hunter and joe biden, the ukraine story is a nonstory, they're not the people who wrote the documents or are seeking the documents. they think there is some "there" there. >> i want to talk about johnson saying he doesn't think that's an accurate assessment that joe biden or hunter biden did something wrong. in fact, they've been exonerated on many points. so important to note that there as this investigation continues. let's talk about the manhattan investigation as well. so it seems as if the president's attorneys are essentially saying even if this

is a more extensive investigation, no matter what, that every document needs to be justified, every document that they are requested. is that true? >> we're pretty far along in this litigation. it was a couple of weeks ago that the manhattan d.a. said, no, no, no, we're not looking at just hush money payments to women. we're talking much broader, possible bank fraud, possible insurance fraud, so for that reason, we're seeking a huge group of documents, and the trump side is now arguing, for us to even argue that your subpoena is overbroad, we need to know more about your investigation. so if you're going to ask for that big a group of documents, you're going to have to justify each and every one. this is not the regular way that subpoenas are challenged. some normal regular joe who challenges a subpoena has a real

uphill battle, especially when it's issued by a grand jury. they're presumptively considered reasonable. so it will be very interesting to see how a court deals with this very important plaintiff in the form of the president. >> all right. danny cevallos, thank you as always. still ahead, despite concerns over the coronavirus, the president says college football should resume this fall. a look at where players and coaches stand on that. we're back in a moment. we're back in a montme

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too hard, #wewanttoplay. trevor lawrence posted over the weekend laying out the case to play. let's switch gears and get a check on your forecast with nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning, bill. good to see you this morning. >> good morning, yasmin. the big story in the weather world yesterday is what happened through the midwest. iowa, illinois, indiana were hit hard. this is what we call a derecho. this is a long-lived storm that produces high destructive winds over a large swath. this went for miles. this was in chicago. we were prepared for it. tornado warnings went out. this was in hinsdale, a suburb outside of chicago. we had winds at 110 miles an hour in some locations. there were trees down all over the place. it started at 11:00 a.m. in des moines and then this

thunderstorm complex grew in intensity. all the blue dots show you where all the wind damage reports were. this rocked all the way through the chicago area, through indiana. 450 miles long was the damage path. again, we had numerous wind damage reports. over 100 miles an hour. it was the longest derecho i've seen in a long time. those storms have died out, also the ones in oklahoma. another hot day in the northeast. this will be an official heatwave in many areas in the northeast area. how hot? boston, 97, syracuse, 97. that's not that unusual. d.c. will feel like 101. today and tomorrow will be the two hottest days of week and then it will cool off toward the weekend. yasmin, it's become a lon hot summer in many areas, especially the northeast. i think wednesday we will get

thunderstorms that will cool everyone off. >> that will be a nice relief. thank you, bill. still ahead, everybody, we're going to dig into the new reporting that the trump administration is considering a ban on u.s. citizens re-entering this country if they're suspected of having the coronavirus. also, we're just two weeks away from the republican national convention, and the president is making some final decisions about where he'll make his speech. those stories and more coming up. s speech those stories and more coming up ♪ here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin' i've been involved in. communications in the media

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i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin this half hour with the trump administration reportedly considering a proposal to temporarily ban american citizens from returning to this country from abroad if authorities believe that person could have the coronavirus. according to "the new york times," the proposal would expand the government's power to prevent entry into this country in individual limited circumstances. the "times" notes that under the proposal, the government could block a citizen or legal resident from crossing the border into the united states if an official, quote, reasonably believes that the individual may have been exposed to or is infected with the communicable disease. federal agencies have been reportedly asked to offer feedback to the white house today, though, it is unclear when it might be approved or announ announced. and president trump doubled down on his claim that children are, quote, as he puts it,

virtually immune to covid-19 despite increasing evidence that shows otherwise. >> the coronavirus, 97,000 children tested positive for coronavirus in the last two weeks in july, according to the american academy of pediatrics. does that give you any pause about schools reopening for in-person learning? >> no, no, because they may have, as you call it a case, it may be a karks but it's also a case where it's a tiny fraction of death, tiny fraction, and they get better very quickly. yeah, they have -- they may have it for a short period of time, but as you know, the seriousness of it in terms of what it leads to is extraordinarily small, very, very much less than 1%. >> do you still believe that children are essentially immune? >> yeah, i think for the most part they do very well. they don't get very sick. they don't catch it easily.

they don't get very sichlk ak. and according to the people i've spoken to, they don't transport it or transfer it to other people or certainly not very easily. yeah, i think schools have to open. we want to get our economy going. we have incredible numbers despite this. if we could get this going, i think it's a very important thing for the economy to get the schools going. >> there's also the looming issue that churn can put their parents at risk, can put teachers at risk, and their gra grandparents as well. so dr. anthony fauci starting if people don't comply with masks, there could be a dual effect with flu and coronavirus in the fall and winter. >> i have to ask a message from the american people. the president said over the weekend that this pandemic is

disappe disappearing, that it's going to disappear. you're the nation's top infectious disease expert in this pandemic. are you comfortable with those words that this is disappearing? >> there would have to be an addition to that. we could get it under control if we do the things that we're talking about. it's not going to spontaneously by its own devices. we're going to have to act with p public health effort. i believe it's achievable that it gets quite controlled so we can open up the country and get the economy back. >> but at 60,000, 70,000, 80,000 cases a day, it's not disappearing at the moment. >> no, it's not. all you have to do is look at the data, david. the virus is telling us what it can and will do if we don't confront it properly. >> all right. let's talk about 2020 politics here.

"the new york times" is reporting that joe bide season planning to announce his vice presidential running mate by the middle of the week. that would leave us around tomorrow. the "times" also said biden has told allies he's interviewed every finalist in his search and the only thing left for him do is make up his mind. biden has spoken with the contenders in conversations in remote situations but the timing of these meetings is not necessarily clear. also the president said either gettysburg or the white house will serve as a backdrop for his nomination acceptance speech. he said we have narrowed the presidential nomination acceptance speech, to be delivered on the final night of

the convention, that's thursday, to two locations, the great battlefield of gettysburg, pennsylvania, and the white house. he abandoned plans in both north carolina and florida because of this pandemic. however, using the white house as a backdrop has raised, of course, understandably concerns among legal and ethics experts who say it is crossing the line between campaigning and the official business of the president. the president said it would entail less security costs. joining me once again, national political reporter for politico, elena schneider. let me first talk with you about the most recent announcement from the president. he hasn't necessarily made it official, but narrowed it down to two locations, the white house as i mentioned and gettysburg. the white house having a lot of issues with it and folks

throwing up their hands saying this cannot happen. talk me through the reactions that you're hearing. >> so, look, both of these properties present a real ethical challenge for the president. as you said, the white house is federal property, but so is gettysburg. its run by the national parks service, which is run by federal employees. they said they would be able to execute these efforts through the rnc and the trump campaign so there would be no violations of the hatch act, which is a law that prevents candidates from campaign i campaigning from these properties. it races consistent concerns in that it would be a challenge that would put employees in a situation in which they would need to be in a campaigning-like

posture position while doing their job, particularly the national park service employees who keep the parks safe. so this is raising a lot of concerns among ethical experts, but this is president trump's ongoing search to find a location from an rnc acceptance speech that went from charlotte, north carolina, to florida, to now we don't know where he's going to be accepting it. >> all right. with that i want to talk about joe biden as well. we have been waiting with bated breath as to who it is that he will be choosing as his vice presidential pick, his running mate. at one point there was a reporting that susan rice and kamala harris were the top two contenders. then last week we saw some inklings of possible michigan governor gretchen whitmer having talks and meetings with the vice president as well. where do we stand as of today, and when do we expect an announcement to be made?

>> so as of today, we are still waiting, and as you noted, there has been other reporting as well as it's borne out in my own report, sometime midweek, which could be tomorrow, wednesday. the best-case scenario for the biden campaign, they roll it out through a text message or email. that's the best-case scenario. there's a possibility it leaks in the next 24 hours. but in terms of where things stand with the candidates themselves, you've laid it out. susan rice and kamala harris have been late out as top contenders. the biden campaign has stressed that a number of people were able -- made it to those stages, made it to the late part of the interview process. so they're trying to keep the pool of potential people as broad as possible for as long as

possible to keep peep guessing, and it's a nod to the process that even if you don't get picked, it's a push to note you've made it this far, and it certainly helps those democratic women politically. >> hey, just quickly here, do we have any idea as to whether or not biden and his v.p. pick will be seen together during the convention? >> that's a great question. whether or not we see them in person, it's unclear. certainly we will see them virtually together. but whether or not they'll be in person is not known at this point. >> all right. politico's elena schneider. thank you. still ahead, everybody, restrictions and a curfew in chicago after a weekend of unrest and looting. now the political fallout. we'll have the latest. also what officials say happened outside of the white house as the president was rushed out of the briefing room mid-sentence.

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excuse me? [ indiscernible ] all right. so that was the moment yesterday when secret service abruptly escorted the president out of the white house briefing room. it happened moments after officials say a 51-year-old man approached a secret service officer at a post on the white house perimeter and claimed to have had a weapon. officials say the suspect then ran aggressively toward the officer, pulled an object from his clothing, and crouched into a shooter's stance as if he was going to fire a weapon. that's when the officers fired, hitting the man in the torso. boefr the officer and the man were taken to the hospital. the secret service did not

answer any questions about the injuries the officer may have suffered or if the suspect had a weapon. the white house says nothing was breach and no one was in danger. the white house was placed on lockdown. the president returned to the briefing room about ten minutes later and said everything was under control and resumed the briefing. >> the city of chicago is under lockdown after days of unrest. two civilians were shot and more than 100 people were arrested after some began looting and vandalizing local businesses. in addition, 13 officers were injured during the unrest. hundreds of people took to the streets after people say police shot a man. they say he fit the description of someone who reportedly had a gun in the area. they say the man began running and opened fire on police before officers returned fire.

the man was taken to the hospital where he was in stable condition. chicago police said that tempers flared fueled by misinformation about the shooting. mayor lori lightfoot said the action of leaders, quote, had nothing to do with projected first maemt and called it abject criminal behavior. let's switch gears and get a check on your weather now with nbc meteorologist bill karins for us. and, bill, take us through those covid numbers before you get us to the weather as we're still seeing these numbers on the rise across this country. >> yeah. it's interesting. we've kind of hit almost like a low. we're not really going up as fast as we were. we're not dropping down as low as we were. so it's kind of like status quo right now. it will be interesting to see where we head from here. yesterday we had 49,800 cases. right now we're at 55,000. you see where we were on monday. we had a big jump-up in july.

california, florida, texas, they have more. of coursing they do. they have more people. if you take it per 1 million people, louisiana is the most widespread. then it would be arizona, florida, new york, and mississippi, and new jersey. those are the most infected states by capita, per 1 million people. yesterday, was high. we're still around 1,700 per day. if you look at the states with the most deaths. you have nchlk, new york, massachusetts, connecticut, rhode island, and louisiana. as far as the weather headlines, we expect to have a possible tropical depression forming but it's way out in the atlantic. i'm not concerned about that at all. for today it's an august hazy

hot and humid for part of the country, and for illinois and indiana, it will not be as hot there. noenl the only in the 80s. >> thanks, bill. still ahead a look inside axios and a battle over whether uber and lyft drivers should be considered contractors or employees. that and other stories driving your business coming up. that and other stories driving your business coming up. ♪ get your glow back. start running again

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welcome back, everybody. joining us from washington with a look at axios a.m. alexi mccam mond mond. give us axios' 1 big thing. >> today is a look inside president trump's debate prep and campaign. two weeks ago, president trump met in a conference room in bed minister with a group of allies to discuss topics weighing heavily on the president's mind, that's the three presidential debates against joe biden. now, president trump and his team want to focus on this because they want to try to close the polling gap and get within striking distance to joe biden. the interesting thing, of course, is that they want to

keep the group small, something like five to six people. it included his campaign manager, a senior adviser, son-in-law jared kushner and chris christie, who role played hillary clinton for donald trump in 2016. >> what's their approach on the president's preparation for debating biden? how important do they feel the debates are? >> the interesting thing now without the full-fledged conventions for democrats and republicans, is that president trump is putting pressure and importance on the debate in part because the convention is no longer that in person celebration that he and others would love, especially for the party heading into the fall but because they've seen the way that joe biden has been increasing his standing in the polls up until now. they think that joe biden will not submit himself to a big or tough interview, you know, on

the networks or with a reporter before election day. so they're viewing the debates as their last chance, the trump team's last chance to brand biden, attack biden and get into the voter's heads before november. >> a lot of people wondering what the debates are going to look like. i know axios has done a bunch of reporting on what the presidential debates are thinking here. what have you learned? >> we've seen how president trump and his election campaign have pressured the commission on debates to add an additional debate before people start voting in september. the trump campaign argues that's only fair so that the american people they say can see joe biden in full before they start casting their ballots. but the commission is an independent body. it's not made up of partisans or one party or the other, they're independent folks that have been doing this since the 80s.

there's no chance they're going to suddenly bend to president trump's desires and change the schedule. or rudy giuliani on behalf of president trump and his election campaign sent the election an entire list with proposed moderators they would like to see in the debates. the candidates never get to choose the moderators so i wouldn't expect anybody on the list to make the cut, unless they were already being considered. >> i want to address the fact that congresswoman cooalexandri ocasio-cortez, she's going to be speaking at the democratic convention next week. talk about the significance of her appearance there. >> it's fascinating because a few days ago us reporters were trying to figure out whether and how she would have a speaking role at the convention. putting her in a prime time slot on the tuesday of the convention, speaking almost in tandem with senator bernie sanders is a way for the biden campaign and the dnc to use her,

energize young progressives without tying joe biden to her agenda, which could be weaponized against him by president trump. she will have a prime time speaking slot, that will help with fund-raising but it's two days before joe biden will speak. and i think that's strategic. >> great to see you this morning. we'll be reading axios in just a little bit. that does it for me on this tuesday morning, i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >> if we didn't close up our country we would have had 1.5 or 2 million people already dead. we've called it right now we don't have to close it, we understood the disease. nobody understood it because nobody has seen anything like this. the closest thing is in 1917, they say, right, the great -- the great pa.