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and a good afternoon. i'm chuck todd. we are following an historic day in america. senator kamala harris has just arrived in wilmington, delaware, where she and former vice president joe biden will make their first appearance together as the 2020 democratic ticket. they are expected to discuss working families and their plan to move the country forward. the historic nature of this moment cannot be understated. yes, it may have seemed like a do no harm obvious pick. but senator harris is the first black woman and first indian-american to be on a major party presidential ticket. we have just 83 days to go. that's fewer than 12 weeks, if you can believe it, to election day. monumental race comes amid a time of great uncertainty right here in the united states. with now more than 5 million confirmed coronavirus cases, 166,000 deaths, and still, no sign of negotiations on serious
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stimulus relief, as capitol hill remains in total gridlock. millions of americans remain out of work. that's the backdrop for this campaign. but there definitely feels like there has been a jolt of excitement injected into the biden campaign. they have provided this view how presidential tickets are made during a pandemic, over videoconferences. >> hi, hi, hi, hi, sorry to keep you. >> that's all right. you ready to go to work? >> oh, my god. i am so ready to go to work. >> first of all, is the answer yes? >> the answer is absolutely yes, joe. i am ready to work and do this with you. >> welcome to 2020. that was such a 2020 moment. joining me now is our correspondent live in delaware. mike has been covering biden's care for more than a dozen years.
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so, look, i mean, every week we say boy, we've never seen that on the campaign trail before. and lo and behold, we've never seen that on the campaign trail before but here we are. >> reporter: yeah, and it's just getting started. this pick that joe biden made was not communicated to his top aides until very late, probably not much longer before that video was recorded in fact. so while there had long been a plan in place for her as she had been referred to, without knowing the identity within the campaign for a long time, there's a lot of time as you would understand that the campaign teams are really now getting together, plotting out what the next few days are going to look like, what the next three months are going to look like. at some point, joe biden and kamala harris will talk about what they hope the next four years will look like. it's interesting as we learn more about this vetting process, the moment that a lot of us thought might be the disqualifying factor if there was one for kamala harris. that debate clash on the debate stage in miami last summer is
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actually one of the things that they're highlights at this moment. the fact that joe biden would choose somebody willing to directly challenge them, and it's something they want to put to work quickly in a couple of hours. this first joint appearance, we're going to see them talk about their united together with the joint motive of course of unseating president trump, restoring the soul of america, as joe biden has talked about for more than a year. but we're also going to hear kamala harris laying out what she will say is a contrast between two tickets. one of compassion, one of experience, one of justice, and one of division, one of failure, one of chaos. and so what do we see in a running mate typically? somebody who can play the attack dog. joe biden knows that well, and they're going to turn it around and light up the democratic party behind this ticket. they're seeing that in fund-raising so far, they've seen it on social media adding to their list over the last few days and hope it will provide that boost to bring him over the finish line in november, chuck.
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>> mike, as we see one of the rare in-person events we'll see during this campaign, the first time the ticket, democratic ticket appears together. looks like things are starting to get, i guess, to get put together for that event. mike, thank you. meanwhile, president trump is reacting to the new biden/harris ticket today in a series of tweets reading in part -- >> joining me now is ashley parker. reporter covering the democrats, alexandria mcgahnon and david plouffe. alexandria, i want to start with
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you. there doesn't seem to be a consistent message that the trump campaign or republicans have come up with on how to go after biden or harris. >> that's exactly right. with biden, they have painted a portrait of him that is not particularly rooted in his personal or professionally life. and biden is someone who was elected to the senate at 29. he has four-decade career. p traditionally you would pick apart that career. so far they haven't done that. then we move to kamala. what was so striking to me was as soon as she was announced, i reached out to people in trump world to say okay, what do you think? what's the attack? where are things headed? and no one really knew. that's not to say they're not going forward, but she's obviously such a top choice, that if you are a responsible campaign and doing your
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diligence, you have attacks and ads ready to go and come up with what you think is the clearest hit. and you are seeing from the scatter shot messaging that is not where the trump campaign is right now, at least. >> alexi, i'm curious here with this pick, it's interesting all the energy that i think she is bringing right now, and i think there is some excitement that comes with it. why do you think she couldn't turn this into a successful run on her own the first time? >> well, chuck, thanks for having me. it's good to see you. i feel like it's been ages since i've seen you in person. >> i think it has been. >> what's interesting, we're sort of seeing the same attacks that kind of plagued her or the reception oh of a strong, powerful black woman running for president throughout the primary. in large part, the country and the democratic electorate just
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showed they weren't totally interested in choosing a democratic nominee based on race or gender, even though we had the most historic democratic primary field in history. i will also say, to be frank, kamala harris ran a pretty poor presidential campaign. senior staff members of her campaign were mismanaging money, mismanaging their strategy. people felt like they didn't know what she stood for because her message was changing all the time. so that's something she's going have to streamline. but i think a lot of those factors were working against her, because a presidential campaign is totally different than being selects as vp. >> david plouffe, if we had done a survey of a thousand political scientists in 2018, throw in media analysts, political analysts, political prognosticators, people like yourself, and said okay, what would be the ideal democratic ticket, biden/harris probably
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would have been crowd sourced as given what they have, that's probably the best package. it's amazing to me that the idea that people have before a campaign begins actually ends up being the ticket at the end of this process. >> right, chuck. that was tested, as you know. but at the end of the day, the electorate ended up being much more stable. so i think joe biden's strength entering the race was tested, but nobody was able to compete for the african-american vote. he comes out of south carolina, and kamala harris was somebody that wasn't going to be the nominee was going to be a strong contender. so i am struck by the tweet from president trump. he's gotten the message that he's hemorrhaging in the superbs. his only answer is to raise the racist flag, which is one of the reasons he's in difficulty in the suburbs. so if he doesn't fix that, he can turn out all the maga base he wants. he has to cut down biden's lead.
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these messages and tweets are the last way to do that. and that seems to me what i'll be watching at their convention in two weeks. it might be a series of white power hours, but do they have a message to try and eat into biden's really unprecedented lead in the suburbs at this stage of the campaign. >> you know, ashley, i'm curious with the trump campaign, i want to say it was your colleague, phillip, i think he wrote the piece about the no rallies. frankly, like going through that piece, it really -- this pandemic has totally rattled the trump apparatus. they don't seem to have a plan b. >> it absolutely has. and you found with the trump campaign in 2016 and the trump campaign that basically started as soon as he was elected, that sometimes when they weren't quite sure what to do, the answer was, drop the president
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in a rally. t the president does actually feed off of those crowds, and this is not a guy who likes to spend a lot of money on focus groups. but that's sort of where he would test his gut slogan, see what works, what doesn't, see what the crowd really responded to. and now they can't do that. keep in mind, the tulsa rally was billed as this huge reset. they used rallies to give the president energy and reset it, and now they are gun shy. you can't basically hold a rally right now, and people in the president's orbit are worried. they don't want another rally, because they don't want to be responsible for 6,000 people showing up when they were boasting about a million. so you take that away from the president, he's trying to find other outlets, but none of them are particularly successful for him. >> i found the fact that he can't handle the empty seat
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issue. that was fascinating. that he himself cannot -- that is something he can't compute. he doesn't think a rally's successful if he sees empty seats, which i just find to be, you know, another fascinating thing in trying to crawl inside his head. >> alexi, let's turn back to kamala harris. the traditional role of a number two in a campaign is to be sometimes to be the attack dog. but i assume she doesn't want to just be the one that's leveling bombs at trump. >> well, we also know that she's not afraid to be that person, chuck. i think a lot of the pat of her presidential pain throughout the primary is how she was prosecuting the case against president trump. and that is something i think we'll probably hear from her again as she is stumping for vp. we all know that biden has within himself that kind of meet you in the schoolyard, let's duke it out mentality. but i think that biden and his
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campaign wanted to keep his head down, do the work and not really get wrapped up in these daily rhetorical brawls. kamala harris isn't going to want to do that, but somebody has to stick up for the biden/harris ticket. that's the surrogate nature of the vp in this moment. of course, we're dealing with a global pandemic and economic recession that we haven't seen since the great recession. there are a lot of things on the homefront that kamala harris is going to have to talk about that she'll be able to thread the needle on. one thing that's interesting is how much she focuses on this contrast in leadership message that biden has put forward rather than going into attack dog mode and going after president trump. >> david, as somebody who is -- when you talk what do you use the presidential nominee for, what do you use the vice presidential nominee for, where do you send them for different -- in different geographic areas, just how would you divide up the country, how would you divide up issues, how would you divide up time between
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the two of them in this unusual environment? >> chuck, it's another thing that's unprecedented. no, ma'am for the next 82 days, other than debates, they're on planes. you don't have that now. so i do think some will be -- i think she will be -- we've seen president trump does not do well-being challenged by women, whether journalists or political figures. so she can put him on the defensive and i don't think he'll respond well to that. so i would look for those moments. it doesn't have to be every day. a lot of this campaign, almost all of it is virtual, so she'll have to do local television interviews, interviews with youtube and instagram influencers, all over the country, doing a lot of fund-raising, doing a lot of meeting with biden and harris volunteers in key battle ground states. so you don't have the leverage right now. maybe that will change, but it doesn't look like that will, to hit a lot of markets.
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but i do think for the next 82 days, that's all you'll be talking about where this ticket can put president trump on the defensive and make him make mistakes. people are going to be voting in 30 to 40 days, so the clock is ticking here. so i think she can be very helpful in terms of geo-tv work and registration work and helping the democrats strategize. how are we going to have this election? how are votes going to be counted? i think she can take a huge lead on that, which can be very effective. >> i think there's been a feeling, a perception that the biden campaign hasn't been on as much offense as some would like to see. although they might just say look at the scoreboard. ashley parker, alexi, david, thank you all for helping us get started here. going to be -- good to have the campaign front and center for a little while. the blame game continues. nancy pelosi says the democrats
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and republicans are miles apart on negotiations. we'll be live on capitol hill after the break. and what voters in battleground states are saying about joe biden's historic pick for vice president. you're watching msnbc. oric picke president. you're watching msnbc. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed disease progression versus letrozole, and shrank tumors in over half of patients. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. ibrance may cause severe inflammation of the lungs that can lead to death. tell your doctor right away if you have new or worsening symptoms, including trouble breathing, shortness of breath, cough, or chest pain. before taking ibrance,
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we have the results of two intriguing house primaries that were held yesterday from minnesota's fifth district and georgia's 14th. omar held off a primary
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challenger. an attorney general and mediator who raised millions of dollars. omar's primary lynn likely assures her a second term. in georgia, a margery taylor green, a supporter of the qanon conspiracy theory, won. green is now a safe bet to win this deeply red district in november. this qanon virus inside the republican party is something they have to worry about a lot more than they seem to be acting. the coronavirus continues to overwhelm the country and tens of millions of americans are out of work. talks remain stalled and almost nonexistent. and now nancy pelosi says the democrats and republicans are "miles apart." well, let's go to our correspondent garrett haik. garrett, they've been miles
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apart for three months. that's not a headline, no offense to the speaker. i mean, this is -- it's -- it feels like democrats are, you know, on venus and republicans are on mars. they just seem two completely different views. >> yeah. i think that's fair. the word "stalled" implies the capacity for movement and this situation seems to lack that capacity. there's an increasing pessimism with those lawmakers and aides on the hill that we'll get any movement on this to fund the go. which doesn't happen until september. so what we're looking at is this political staring contest where the house can say, we passed the hero's act back in may. the president can say i put these executive orders in effect. and that kind of leaves the senate here holding the bag.
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they're the one body involved in this. it hasn't really passed anything and isn't really clear what could pass the senate. so that means especially those vulnerable republican senators up for re-election have a hard time going back to their districts say thing is what i'm doing to fight for this. we end up in a position of being stuck with very little in terms of pressure points to break the log jam. >> a couple other things i'm curious about on capitol hill. the reception of kamala harris. >> reporter: yeah, look, on the senate side, which has been the more collegial body, she komtd s continues to be widely praised. roy blount, the senator from missouri is here. she just stepped off the floor and talking to a member of our team and said i don't vote with her ever, but i sit with her on the intel committee, which is
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from decision -- he thinks she's a serious person that gets her work done. it does go to the challenge the trump campaign will have branding her as an idealogical bomb thrower. there are other republicans up here who will try, but that will be the challenge. while they're all fanned out across the country in a nontraditional year and not out doing campaign events, it may be hard to amplify that message from this body any way. >> and then i have to ask you about qanon. this victory in georgia, that there's going to be likely a sitting member of congress who is a believer in these -- not just wacky, dangerous conspiracy theorys, is republican leadership have -- are they just going to stick their head in the sand and hope this virus goes away or will they try to do something about this qanon
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virus? >> reporter: it will depend on what this member and any others do once they get here. i think about kevin mccarthy and has had to answer for some of the crazy things that steve king has had, and the problem that poses for republicans. this could be that on steroids potentially, but i think that's a fire they'll have to decide how to put out once they see how many of these members are showing up come next january. >> yeah. i think what was astounding is how there are people connected to jim jordan and mark meadows that were helping her out. thank you. still to come, how kamala harris will give joe biden the boost he needs with latino voters in november. we'll ask about that. meanwhile, we've got a live look at the stage that is being set for joe biden and kamala harris' first joint appearance as running mates just a couple of hours from now. you're watching msnbc. hours from now you're watching msnbc.
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california's economic challenges are deepening. frontline workers stretched too thin. our nurses and medical professionals in a battle to save lives. our schools, in a struggle to safely reopen, needing money for masks and ppe,
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32 million latino also be eligible to vote, making the latino vote pivotal. joining me now is christina londanyo. good to see you. >> good to see you, chuck. >> joe biden had a couple of latinas that her interviewed for the vp process. he ended up choosing kamala harris. leaders that you have spoken to, what do they make of the pick, and is there any small sense of disappointment that the running mate is not a latina? >> reporter: well, not so far, chuck. they're very happy. some are calling her a formidable and historic choice. they're saying that joe biden clearly understands that there's strength in diversity. i just spoke to a woman from venezuela. she said she k0u8dncouldn't be r to see a woman that looks like her for the first time in a
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presidential ticket. she's been supported by a legendary civil rights leader within the latina community. many are contrasting her strengths against president trump. they're calling him a white nationalist, and they say that kamala harris is an ally of immigrants and a voice for the ones that have been counted out. and she clearly is bringing strength to this ticket, because she has won various elections in california. she knows how to campaign with the hispanic community. and at one point during the primary, she was the second favorite among hispanics. >> as we know, as you know very well, latino voters in texas and arizona and california are different than latino voters in florida. tell me how -- you were just speaking to a venezuelan woman. that could bode well for the democratic ticket if venezuelans
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and cubans also see something in kamala harris. how do you think she'll play in south florida in particular? >> reporter: well, in south florida, it could be tough. the trump campaign has been quick to paint her as part of the extreme left within the democratic party. they're saying that if the biden/harris ticket gets to the white house, they're going to take away their freedoms. it's a move towards socialism, communism. it's something clearly the cubans and a lot of venezuelans, central americans who fled their countries because of communism and socialism do not want. but so far, we have to see if it sticks, because the venezuelan woman i spoke to was saying she's a defender of freedom and immigrants. so we just have to wait that one out and see what happens. >> you know, about 17 days ago, we were doing our hundred days preview. one of the concerns that you had brought up, that you had said some latino democrats were
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worried about was this issue of enthusiasm, getting latinos to the polls. is she somebody that can spark this enthusiasm? >> as i just told you, she clearly did it in california, and as you said, some people have stated that joe biden had a latino problem, and they're hoping that kamala harris can actually fix that. i have the results oh of a very recent poll before the election was made by voter participation and voter latino that said that 59% of hispanics in key battle ground states would be excited about harris as a vp. 52%, more than half of them said they would be more likely to vote for joe biden if she was the pick. only 20% said otherwise. she's younger, she smiles a lot. she knows how to campaign. she's done it in california. so that is one of the big hopes that she can bring the latino vote to joe biden and bring it up to the level that hillary
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clinton had, because although joe biden is still winning according to the polls amongst latinos, he's lagging behind the numbers that hillary clinton had four years ago. >> christina lodono, always 2k3w50d to sgood to see you. stay dry. i think i hear the raindrops. >> reporter: yes. all right. now that she's officially the pick for vice president, kamala harris will be under more scrutiny than ever. that means a re-examination of her time from san francisco district attorney to state attorney general, to united states senator. joining me now is california attorney general javier basera, who succeeded harris in 2016 and represented los angeles for 24 years in congress. yes, you were appointed to essentially replace her, and then you, i think, won to fulfill that term. so first, your simple reaction
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of kamala harris, i assume being a california democrat, this is going over pretty well? >> chuck, we're over the top on this one, because i didn't realize it, but this is the first time a california democrat has been on the top of the ticket. it's about time. wow, what a selection. you're talking about a guy, joe biden, who had the confidence to pick one of his strongest rivals during this campaign. and clearly, there's confidence in her abilities to be a strong leader. and so in every respect, not just because she's a californian, but because she's so ready to lead and govern, i think here in california, we're enthusiastic about having kamala harris be the next vice president. >> the first californian, i think this was the first democrat west of the rockies, i think, if i'm not mistaken. so it was sort of extraordinary that the democratic partier hadn't gone west in so long.
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let me ask you about the idealogical issues. look, california is being a very blue state, but there are big divisions on the blue side of the equation here. what do you make of the progressive sort of pragmatist divide here? and i think she's somebody that has tried to straddle the fence there. and sometimes that creates problems. and sometimes that creates coalitions. >> look, senator harris has proven that she understands how to get things done. when she was d.a., she wasn't just prosecuting, she was establishing new programs to move young, mostly young men, mostly young men of color, away from this life where she would end up in this pipeline to prison. and so she's done it all. and it takes a while. chris, as you -- i mean, chuck, as you know, it takes time to get things done, especially when
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you're dealing with a large bureaucracy. department of justice, we just recently filed and got a settlement in the first desegregation case in california in a long time. up in marin county, which is a wealthy part of san francisco. guess who started the bureau that gave us that opportunity? kamala harris started the children's justice bureau in the justice department, which lets us focus on crime prevention and protecting children. the results have been phenomenal. so she's done a lot, and we're all going to be criticized for having done or not done something. but i will tell you this, when you look at her overall record, she's been a fighter in and out, and she had the confidence of the man that's going to be the next president. i think that speaks well for kamala harris and joe biden, as well. >> i'm curious, now that you've been in this position of state attorney general, did your views of some of the critiques of her tenure change yourself?
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for instance, not being there, you think boy, why did this happen, and now are you more -- maybe it's sympathetic to maybe some of the circumstances she found herself in? >> yeah, well, i've always -- when i talked about a.g. kamala harris, spoken about the things she did that took the department of justice to a different level, and today, what we can talk about is all the things that she's left in place, the children's justice bureau, our open justice database system, which lets us in california track crime and statistics on crime so we don't have to guess in california what's happening with regard to homicides or local crimes. she established that for the state, which is a great tool that people can use to find out what's going on when it comes to the criminal justice system. all those things she left in place have made california and the california department of justice a better place. so i've got to tell you, if you
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were looking for someone who has left a mark, joe biden found her. and in a way, i think joe biden is really happy that he's asking her to be the vice presidential candidate and not her asking him to be a vice presidential candidate. she was tough, and she almost became the presidential nominee. >> there might be an open senate seat if this ticket wins, if the governor asks you to fulfill it, would you consider it? >> well, look, there's so many great candidates in california. that's the answer you'll get from all of us. right now the goal is november. i'm happy where i am. governor newsom does, i wish him a great deal of luck, because he's going to have a great decision to make. >> fair enough.
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knowing one of their open for the first time is on a major democratic party ticket. mr. attorney general, thank you. >> thanks, chuck. with coronavirus cases among children spiking at an alarming rate, and quickly heading for the 500,000 mark here in the united states, we're looking at how kids are spreading the virus as schools across the country open. you're watching msnbc. across t open you're watching msnbc. jd powet awarded for network quality 25 times in a row. then, give people more plans to mix and match, so you only pay for what you need. verizon's unlimited plan is so reasonable, they can stay on for the rest of their lives. include the best in entertainment and offer it all starting at $35. plus, $700 off our best phones when you switch. because everyone deserves the best. the is unlimited built right. only on verizon. i'm looking for my client. i'mi'm so sorry.nt. hey! hey man, you're here! you don't trust me here in vegas, do you?
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here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin' now for the latest facts in the coronavirus pandemic. the governor of texas announced some schools may delay in-person lessons through october, as the state battles the spread of the virus. the white house says that people seeking unemployment insurance will receive $300 a week, not $400, under a new executive action. it was supposed to replace the extra $600 people were receiving under the c.a.r.e.s. act. that ran out at the end of july. of course, this $300 from the
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white house came after the lack of talks between republicans and democrats. and officials from augusta national golf club announced the 2020 masters tournament, set to take place in november instead of april, will not have any fans in attendance. probably not a surprise to many people on that one. as communities debate how to safely restart the school year, there is a heightened focus how the coronavirus impacts children. the american academy of pediatrics found the number of cases among children has jumped at an alarming rate by 90% here in the united states from early july to early august. as of august 6, there have been a total of more than 380,000 cases among children. joining me now is a special envoy on covid-19 for the world health organization, dr. david navaro. it is good to visit with you again. let me start with that alarming report about children.
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tell me from your perch at the w.h.o. what you're seeing globally, and is this something more unique to the united states or is this a troubling pattern we're seeing worldwide? >> i think that we are seeing throughout the world that children are getting coronavirus, but fortunately, they don't seem to have such severe consequences. i think what it reminds us is that this is a really dangerous virus. and i would just like to stress to everybody, whatever you think about what's happening in the world, we must recognize the speed with which the disease is expanding across all nations, and affecting so many people. there's now 20 million cases reported to the world health organization, and the last million cases have been added, you know, in about five days. so what's happening is, it's accelerating. and it's affecting all ages, children, young adults, older adults and older people.
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of course, it's the older people and those who are sick who are most likely to die. and we've had 730,000 people die of covid. it is an extraordinary burden. thank you so much for highlighting it today. >> let me ask you this, david. >> yeah. >> why are we here? how did we get -- how did we lose this much control globally? we've got theorys on how we lost control here in the united states. but it does feel like overall, we're losing control of this everywhere. >> i think that you are right. let's just look at see what is possible. there are many countries in the world that are actually maintaining some degree of control. in east asia, in singapore, south korea, in other countries perhaps, vietnam as well, they are ahead of the virus.
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they are keeping a very strong lookout for it. and they're closing down outbreaks the moment they start. and then we come to western europe where i am. again, many countries have been able to get their numbers right down. they're going to come up again bit by bit, but these countries know that the way in which they deal with it is by having defenses right across the community to pick up new cases and to isolate them quickly. it requires a lot of discipline. the people have to be organized, and we have to have really consistent leadership from the top, political leaders saying yes, we're taking this seriously. because if they can get on top of it, then they can get their economies back and working again. but there are other countries, as you have just said, where there is a sense that we're losing the battle. and that's what we've got to do now is to ask the countries that are facing difficulty, please learn from the countries that have been able to get on top of it, because they do have lessons
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for the rest of us, and they're going to show us how we'll keep our world going with trade, with education, with travel for leisure, as well as travel for work. and get back to some semblance of normality. >> well, let's deal with the elephant in the room, then. you started our interview by noting it took only five days around the world for another million cases to be added. >> yeah, yeah. >> it took us 17 days here in the united states, it took just 17 days to go from 4 million to 5 million. are we the -- i mean, let's just be frank here. are we the world's problem? >> well, certainly if i were living in the united states, i would be quite worried. and here's the reason. if you can deal with these outbreaks of covid quickly, the moment they start, you're dealing with something that's manageable. you've got a few people who have met together and they've shared
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space, and they've all got the illness. some of them are severely ill. but at least you can control ut and suppress it. but if for any reason there's some kind of uncertainty about how to deal with the problem , d perhaps delayed by five or six weeks, you have a huge problem on your hand because of the speed with which this virus moves through populations. it's a really quick speed. in some places, you even get doubles in the size of outbreaks every two or three days. so in the united states, there is an awful lot of virus spread across the country. and that virus is still very much there and mull ply imultip, and the only way to get back in control of this situation is by everybody saying we're part of the battle against this virus, we'll do it through our own behavior and get the public
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health services to work with us. >> very quickly, anything coming out of russia to give you confidence that their vaccine proclamation is true? >> well, there's vaccines coming out now in a lot of different locations, and more than a hundred candidates. all of them are going through testing. the russian one, as well. we've still got to wait a little bit longer, chuck, before we can turn to everybody and say we found it. and then we've got to make sure that everybody who can take it takes it. and that's when we'll get on top of this thing for good. but in the meantime, let's everybody fight this coronavirus because we can beat it. we don't have to have it beating us. thank you, chuck. >> right. dr. david navaro, i really appreciate your time. it was a pleasure meeting you back in april and having your expertise today is very helpful, as well. special envoy for the w.h.o., thank you, sir. >> thank you. well, as we wait to hear
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from joe biden and kamala harris, we'll head to our states for reaction to the biden/harris ticket from voters in pennsylvania and
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joe biden's vp pick in kamala harris is reshaping the 2020 election. our nbc news reporters have been closely tracking voter sentiment in five counties as part of our county-to-county project. five counties we think are representative of some key demographic groups that will determine who wins the presidential election. ellison barber is in miami-dade county, florida, and dasha burns is in beaver county, pennsylvania. let's start in florida. ellison, this is a question. we know she's very familiar campaigning for latino voters in california. latino voters in california, a lot different than latino voters
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in miami-dade county. >> right. yeah, chuck, obviously, every presidential election, we pay close attention to florida, and the miami-dade area is especially an area that's worth watching because it is so diverse. there's a large hispanic community here. a lot of people who are of cuban and south american descent, so it's helpful to look at this area to get a sense of what members of a hispanic community in a nonborder state might be focusing on, what they're thinking. when it comes to the pick and addition of senator kamala harris to biden's presidential ticked, most of the people we have spoken to here, whether they're on the left of the political spectrum or the right, they seem to think she's a good fit, a good pick for biden's ticket. interestingly, almost every person we have spoken to say this year they feel this election, they feel like the vice presidential pick is much more significant than it has been in prior elections. listen here. >> i'm thrilled.
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i think she's an extremely competent person. i wasn't surprised that he picked a black woman. and i think it's strategic and i think it's sensitive to the issues facing the country right now. i think she's going to do a great job, and i think she's going to add a lot to his ticket. >> in this case, it's pretty important because you have to acknowledge that joe biden is 77 years old. and so if he finishes his term, if he's elected, he'll be 81 or 82. so in this case, i think it's a pretty important choice. >> quick big picture refresher. in 2016, donald trump narrowly won this state. barack obama narrowly won it in 2012. now let's go over to my colleague, dasha burns. she's in beavertown, pennsylvania. hey, dasha. >> hey, ellison. beaver county went to donald trump by 19 points in 2016. but this is why we are doing this county to county project
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bought i have been following this place for almost a year now, and over the last several months, i have noticed a significant shift. after the death of george floyd, this majority-white conservative community, i saw folks coming out to rallies, to marches, to have tough conversations about race, and it has made some folks here pull back a little bit in their support of the president. now, a lot of the voters i talk to here say this decision from joe biden to pick not only a woman of color but a woman of color who does appeal to some moderate voters was a smart decision. i want to introduce you to two folks i met earlier this year and spoke with today. shaun owens, an activist here who has been engaging the community with these issues of race, and kristen, who voted for donald trump in 2016 but since the black lives matter movement is questioning her support for him. take a listen to how they view this decision from joe biden. >> it speaks to what we're attempting to do here in beaver county.
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it's saying unity. he picks a black woman to be his running mate. that says so much to our country, that we're changing. we're changing thoughts. joe biden, i believe he's forward thinking. i believe he's a chess player. so he's thinking forward about the impact that kamala harris will bring to this country. >> do you think kamala was the best decision? >> i do. yeah, i do. >> why is that? >> again, because she's a black woman, she can understand more of the racial injustices going on versus another, not to say an old white guy, you know what i mean? >> but chuck, a lot of voters also tell me it will be donald trump and his rhetoric that will sway voters here one way or the other. chuck. >> yeah, might be very well be the case. anyway, dasha burns, ellison barber, terrific reporting on the ground in a difficult environment these days with the pandemic.
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thank you both. we're going to be hearing from joe biden and kamala harris pretty soon, and next, i'll be joined by the woman who led the charge to defend kamala harris after there was word she may be coming under fire from a member of biden's own vp search committee. you're watching msnbc. u're watc.
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i'm chuck todd. it is still morning out west, 11:00 a.m. out there. 2:00 p.m. in the east. this afternoon, joe biden and kamala harris will hold their first campaign event as running mates. the speech is expected to focus on restoring the soul of the nation, basically the message of the biden campaign. president trump is scheduling a competing event next hour. he's expected to unveil new

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