i'm chuck todd. it is still morning out west, 11:00 a.m. out there. 2:00 p.m. in the east. this afternoon, joe biden and kamala harris will hold their first campaign event as running mates. the speech is expected to focus on restoring the soul of the nation, basically the message of the biden campaign. president trump is scheduling a competing event next hour. he's expected to unveil new guidelines for schools to resume

in-person classes. this as his administration struggles to get on any message against the biden/harris ticket or a consistent one. this morning, the president tweeted a thinly veiled dog whistle claiming suburban housewives. unquote, will vote for him, because under president biden, low-income housing would invade their neighborhood. not sure why any of those have to do with kamala harris' pick. we'll begin in delaware. joining me from wilmington ahead of the big biden/harris campaign event is our own nbc news correspondent mike memoli. mike, i know we're fighting a little bit of weather here, but i believe we have you up and running. so -- oh, it looks like we were a little bit -- we were a little bit concerned that we were going to lose mike's shot, and lo and behold, weather did us in there. let's move very quickly here in the last few weeks, politico reported on a swipe at senator harris from former senator chris dodd, who is leading the biden vetting process.

and the associated press reports this morning, quote, the public disclosure of dodd's comments angered some of the highest rapgirap ranking women on biden's campaign. with me now is california lieutenant governor elainy kuhn alocks. lieutenant governor, good to see you, and i hope i did your last name justice. don't be afraid to correct me. let me start with this. i have to say, you know, i remember when you guys called for this meeting with the biden campaign. boy, in hindsight, the fact they took the meeting, that was a big clue. >> you know, chuck, i don't know. it all really happened very quickly. you know, there was these articles saying that, you know, she maybe was too ambitious and maybe there were other people who liked different california candidates. we just felt we needed to speak up. and so we asked for a meeting. it all happened within about 72

hours. more than 15, some of the highest ranking elected officials in the state of california, along with a couple labor leaders, business leaders, and what we did is everybody had two minutes to tell the biden team why we respect her, why we admire her, and frankly, why we like her so much. she's an amazing person. and so, we're very happy now in hindsight that we had an opportunity to get through to the campaign so they could hear from the people who know her best and have worked with her for so many years. >> do you believe you had an impact in at least showing the biden campaign that harris has a support network here that is strong, that is strong in a way that you're not going to find with many other running mates, and that the show of force actually might have been a

tipple point moment? >> well, again, i think a lot of these things go into it, but the fact of the matter is that she had told me months before that she did not want some kind of lobbying effort because she respected the vice president too much. and she felt, look, he knows who i am. and i'm here. he knows that i would be delighted to do it. and she was right. he had his process play out, and at the end of the day, i think he saw what we saw, which is that here is a strong, powerful leader in her own right who is also a team player. and this is how i think we have the best ticket for the democratic party we could possibly have. >> i'm curious, when you were having this meeting, did you get the sense at the time that they were simply trying to placate everybody, or did you get the sense that, no, they realize

they needed to listen? >> i will tell you, it was an impressive series of testimonies from people, including the mayor of long beach, robert garcia, he had lost his mother from covid the day before. and he said he would not miss this call. you know, and he talked about how senator harris was the first person to call him when his mother passed away. these are real relationships. and i think they were really intrigued and appreciated hearing from us. and all of them had great things to say. so i think really like many things it's really just a sort of ground swell for something this historic to happen. but we, of course, are all very, very proud that we were able to convey our message and tell those stories about her. >> still amazing that this is

the first time that the democratic party has had a californian on its ticket given how important california democratic party is to the party. one could say maybe it's about time. anyway, california lieutenant governor, thank you for coming on and sharing that story with us. >> great to be with you, chuck. now let's go back to wilmington. i think we have our shot up. mike memoli, we're obviously fighting some weather there. this is not going to be an outdoor event, if i'm understanding, so it shouldn't be an issue. mike, what should we expect today, and what is your sense of how -- what is this personal relationship? i know the vice president does seem to lean on beau as sort of the bridge in this relationship with kamala harris. what about the rest of the biden

family? >> well, chuck, first of all, i'll describe what you're seeing behind me. it was quite a thunderstorm, to say the least. i bring that up because it's interesting. you mentioned that this is an indoor event. this is not a public event. the biden campaign did not announce the location for this event, and up until the moment that the skies opened up about a half hour ago, there were a lot of folks arriving, some of them, many locally, but i spoke with a woman who came down from philadelphia, one from the baltimore area. in terms of the choice of whether a vice president in this candidate specifically, kamala harris, could help provide energy to the ticket, they got an answer there in terms of that enthusiasm. in terms of the personal relationship, this is what biden has said all along he was hoping to find in his running mate, somebody who he could have that kind of bond the way he did with barack obama, but chuck, you know this very well. i remember it from covering the campaign in 2008 and then covering the white house years. that relationship was not perfect to begin with.

in fact, the former vice president, then the senator on the ticket, caused some headaches for the campaign that led him to be shut out during the fall campaign in a way that did not please him. it was only once they were in the white house, in the trenches working together, where the president saw that he could have in biden somebody who had his back, especially as they were fighting on health care, that thad bond really created. i think that was advice to biden as the process came to a conclusion, and it was something that was also a realization on the part of his family as well, chuck. >> mike, i appreciate your dedication to the job. go get dry. get out of this weather. thank you, brother. appreciate the report. >> thank you. >> all right. >> let's go to some folks who are dry right now. with me is nbc news political reporter monica alba, plus, dan pfeiffer, former white house communications director during the obama administration, also with the podcast, pod save

america, and also message box, a 21st century media mogul these days where you have to have a million platforms. anyway, monica, though, let me start with you and sort of the overall picture here and what you have been -- what i think has been a sort of, i don't know, it's either generic attacks on kamala harris from the republican campaign right now, or mixed attacks. but it doesn't seem to be well thought out. >> you nailed it, chuck. that's exactly right. it's not a coherent strategy. that's what even some people in the president's orbit have noticed and it's put them on notice, expressing concern if the president in the initial reaction yesterday laid out such a contradictory and at times confusing reaction, that doesn't bode very well for the strategy going forward in terms of trying to define kamala harris heading into nevadovembernovember. and it's something we have seen where the trump campaign and the re-elect effort as a whole has struggled to land a punch

effectively on former vice president joe biden. trying out different nicknames, different lines of attack, not much that moved the needle. now when we come to kamala harris, you have the president defaulting to somewhere where one of his allies put it he's most comfortable, those sexist attacks, calling her nasty four times in a span of as many minutes, and then the campaign mixing messaging on her record. on a prosecutor, one arguing she was antipolice, and also propolice, too tough on crime, trying to send a message that the president is a law and order figure, but that at times kamala harris was one as well. so they have a lot of questions to answer for in terms of where that strategy heads, what is significant now is you have a campaign, though, 24 hours after the pick, without a clear strategy. that's been the major takeaway, and again, people around the president are alarmed that's the case right now, chuck. >> dan, i'm curious what your reaction is to the fact that this is one of those cases where

the whatever you want to call the conventional wisdom crowd, they got this ticket right two years ago. what do you make of that? >> well, i think there's a lot of logic to this ticket, kamala harris represents the future of the party. she's a tremendously talented individual who passes every test you could possibly want in a vice president. and so yeah, you know, it's sort of this has been maybe the conventional wisdom election in that joe biden, who was seen as a front runner in the very beginning, he ended up being the nominee, and the person who they thought was his most likely running mate ended up being her person. i couldn't agree more with what monica said about how confused the trump campaign has been. it's fair, kamala harris was the leading contender, and the trump campaign is les prepared for her than the obama campaign was for sarah palin in 2008. >> and i assume you got what you're trying to say, dan, is you did not see sarah palin coming, right? that was not one of the running

mates you had prepared to deal with, correct? >> no, she was not. we were very well prepared for four or five of them. that was a pick out of left field. i was not even positive i could remember what state she was the governor of when i first herd the name, and it took a few days to get it right. the trump campaign had every opportunity to prepare for kamala harris, to have a message, and they do not have one. it speaks to larger problems the campaign has had from the beginning. >> monica, we know the president is aware he's accepted the idea he has a problem in the suburbs. but he continues to use language from the '50s, '60s, and '70s to try to deal with it. are there other ways people are trying to get to the president and try to fix his problems with sort of suburban america? >> the answer to that is yes, and they have been trying to get to him and give him this advice for the last three and a half years, and so rarely does he ever take it, chuck, and we see it just in the tweet that you mentioned this morning, raising eyebrows and having a lot of

people around him saying that's probably not the best approach. you have the trump campaign holding a press call last night arguing that the president is going to be the best for suburban women, but of course, not calling them housewives. when you have the president do that, it's something that really does hurt his record. it already is struggling with women. this is certainly something that plunges it further. and it is notable, as dan was pointing out there, the trump campaign had prepared so many attacks against kamala harris back when she was a presidential nominee, back in the primary, so they had all this time to do that. they have all the opposition research. and it was increasingly obvious that joe biden was going to tap a woman of color for this post. they should have been a little bit more ready, both critics and people around the president who are trying to give him advice, have been pointing out in the last day or so, chuck. >> dan, i'm curious, do you -- look, the biden campaign has been, you know, if i'm going to use an old boxing analogy, a little bit of rope adope, protecting their lead, holding

their lead, staying on message on the virus, their ad campaign is on the virus, they're focused on the biggest story in america. how much more do you think they should go on offense and sort of poke him a little bit, see if you can get the president to make a bunch of unforced errors like i think he's doing right now in his twitter feed? >> i don't think biden needs to do a single thing to make trump make an unforced error. what the biden campaign is doing is smart, which is they are spending the overwhelming majority of their paid advertising resources on defining joe biden as the person who can handle this virus and fix the economy. that is what they need to do. a lot of negatives about trump are priced into the baseline, and i think the biden campaign has well learned the lessons of the 2016 election and everything that's happened since in that they know that trump is going to dominate the airwaves himself. he will put out lots of disqualifying information about himself. what you need to do is define yourself because it's so hard to

get attention in the trump media environment, so where they're spending their money is to do that with target voters like seniors in florida. >> and that's the thing. they have been also outspending the trump campaign. that's a whole other storyline. where did trump basically lose his financial advantage and blow this financial advantage? that audit some day is going to be fascinating because a whole bunch of people may have made a whole bunch of money. monica alba and dan pfeiffer, thank you both. >> still ahead, the impact of kamala harris on this ticket. you're going to hear why voters say they relate to her even in states that went to donald trump. >> first, can a biden/harris ticket get out the vote like obama/biden did in 2008. i'll ask another member of that campaign next. member of that campaign next. thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor

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goo fewer than 12 weeks stand between now and the election, and many down ballot elections are going to be relying on a surge of black voters, particularly black women, in order to win. steve kornacki is at the big board to runuts through the numbers, and frankly, to show why it may have been so important for the democrats to have a more diverse ticked than they did four years ago. >> let's look at a tale of four elections and you'll see a pattern here. we'll go back to 2004, remember, the democratic ticket that year was john kerry, john edwards, and what you see here, this number, this was the black

turnout rate in the 2004 general election. remember, kerry lost to george w. bush, the republican, a 60% black turnout rate. take a look at what happened four years later when barack obama ran at the top of the democratic ticket. joe biden, his running mate. black turnout went up significantly. up to 65%. of course, kerry lost, obama won. one of the reasons obama won. he had very strong black turnout. it's also one of the key reasons barack obama was re-elected in 2012. black turnout actually went up between 2008 and 2012, from 65% to 66%. and then, the fourth election, hillary clinton, tim kaine, the democratic ticket. what was the black turnout rate, it fell. you went from that 65%, 66%, back down to a number that looks an awful lot like the number from 2004. a losing democratic ticket, a losing democratic ticket. these are the two winners here. obama/biden with very high black turnout. that's the national level.

you can see this in significant states as well. the numbers you're seeing here, this is the black turnout rate in these states. obama elections. 2008 and 2012, and take a look at what happens in these states in 2016. in all of them, sometimes significantly, look at this, wisconsin, the black turnout rate plummeted between 2012 and 2016. and it fell in all of these states. that's one of the key things democrats are looking at for 2020, they want to try to get as close as they can to that 2008, 2012 level of energy among black voters. >> steve kornacki, you laid out some pretty simple math as to why this ticket is more diverse this year than it was four years ago. thank you, sir. >> well, as steve just laid out, whether or not the biden/harris ticket wins in some of these critical states in november is likely going to come down to black voters and how big the turnout is. can biden and harris replicate the kind of turnout that president obama and vice president biden were able to draw in both 2008 and 2012.

i want to bring in elaina beverly, she served as the national deputy director of african-american outreach for obama's campaign, and also with us, beth fouhy. elaina, is it as simple as having an african-american on the ticket? is the math that simple here, the way steve laid it out? you can't help but look at the all-white ticket of '04, the all-white ticket of '16, and seeing the result of that. >> well, it's far more than just symbolism, i would say, chuck. certainly, representation matters. and as the mother of a young black child, a young black girl, my heart beats faster knowing that she now has one less ceiling for her in her career and that she can now seize being a black female as also being synonymous with potentially being an executive power at the vice presidential level. that is important, and the fact that kamala harris is also of immigrant descent, of indian and

also of jamaican descent, she's also synonymous with power, because the way she has carried herself, the way she has always been breaking barriers, the way she has become the second african-american woman senator, the way she has been the first african-american woman to lead -- be the san francisco district attorney, and to lead california as the state attorney general, she is remarkable and powerful and dynamic, and has garnered the interest and the enthusiasm of african-american voters and of the nation. and i would even argue that she changes our reputation across the globe, so it's not as simple as just let's put -- let's name a black woman. let's name a black person. she brings qualities and qualifications that are uniquely hers and that are going to serve the biden/harris ticket well. >> beth, put this in some -- put this in some political context by state. i mean, we saw a little bit.

where do you think she will help the most, this biden/harris ticket? >> so chuck, when she was running as presidential candidate back last year, all these many months ago, it seems like forever now, we didn't really see her sort of grabbing a lot of black support. we talked to black voters across the country, particularly in south carolina, which as you know decisively is in the democratic primaries, is decided by voters of color, and mostly what we were hearing is people didn't know her. they did not know kamala harris. she was sort of a new figure on the national stage. she had been of california. she was only recently in the senate. it wasn't like they didn't support her, but they didn't necessarily know her. they're going get to know her a lot better in the coming months. that's really a major difference that we're going to see is suddenly the klieg lights on her on the national stage and how she does fare. to your other guest's point,

it's not she's just a black woman hoping to excite black voters. she's a candidate who represents where the democratic party is now, she's younger, a woman, a biracial woman, a woman of color, a person of the west. these are all areas where the democratic party is growing, is really having dominance at this point. so it's right for joe biden to want to reflect that on this ticket. the question for me is not so much states. it's can she excite people like younger voters who are typically more progressive in the democratic party. they're less than excited about joe biden, and they also tend to be more progressive, and neither joe biden nor kamala harris would probably be called a progressive candidate by younger voters. >> address that, because i think the fairer critique, the fairer critique of the clinton/kaine ticket was not that it was all white, but it was that they didn't seem to know how to have a progressive conversation with younger voters of color.

but what do you make of -- what do you make of kamala harris' ability to tap into this young, what beth pointed to, the younger voters who are more progressive than she is? >> well, i think one of senator harris' strengths is her ability to listen. and what i have heard from both her campaign and from activists that i have relationships with, i have heard she sat down with black lives matter leaders and listened more than she talks. i know that she was an innovator when she was a prosecutor. i know that she was an innovator as the d.a. i also know that she has now in a new moment with the pandemic, and she has introduced bills that are incredibly progressive and progressive in addressing the issues that we are challenging or challenged with right now, including the evictions that our community is facing, including gun reform, suggesting we should have gun reform as an executive order. she has progressive stances on

many of these issues, and i think that as people come to know both what she has done in her long distinguished career and as a senator, and what she stands for now on the vice presidential ticket, presidential and vice presidential ticket, i think more people will come to her side. >> you know, beth, if we see a surge in voter registration, where do you think this campaign's best positioned to take advantage of that? >> well, there has been reported surges all over the country, in part perhaps fueled by the black lives matter movement. let's face it, chuck. as much as young people are a very loud voice, in politics in our country, theyera aren't necessarily voters in our country. we continue to wait for the day where young voters step up and vote in the numbers they could represent in our democracy. we didn't see them come out for bernie sanders during the primary. that was a big problem for bernie sanders, ultimately why

he did not win, because that community did not really coalesce for him at the voting booth. if some of these folks who are out marching, black lives matter protests, we know president trump has, you know, called protesters across the country who participated in these movements antifa or other sort of derogatory names. that is probably more than anything going to push folks into the voting booth who might not have gone otherwise. >> it the contrast there is very good point. >> the negative motivator thee days is probably one that matters a lot. thank you both for helping us dig through that. much appreciated. and coming up, the future of fall sports, whether or not colleges and conferences forge ahead with the football season just like with everything these days, may ultimately depend on where you live and which your area politics are. politics are. let me tell you something,

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here are the facts in the pandemic as we know them this hour. over 900 students and staff members are being asked to quarantine after an outbreak within georgia's cherokee county school district, that's a high school in the district is now closed completely until the end of the month. that was the high school picture that went viral. school officials are using contact tracing to identify at-risk students and staff. >> the city of miami beach has issued 288 mask violations since the end of july. that amounts to over $14,000 in

fines. but, according to the city, only four veelgz violations have actually been paid. >> matthew mcconaughey will interview dr. anthony fauci tomorrow. he hopes to talk shop with the leading infectious disease expert. the interview will take place on instagram live. >> two of the five major college football conferences will not play this fall. the big ten and pac-12 called off the fall 2020 season despite pressure from players, coaches, and even the president to play. the possibility of a spring season is still on the table. earlier, the big 12 announced their schedule. they plan to begin september 26th. the other two major conferences, the s.e.c. and a.c.c., are also planning to go forward with their seasons, but that supposedly could change. let's bring in morgan chesky in arlington, texas. where we're trying to figure out what is happening with the future of college football here. and with, i guess, the bigger question, morgan, is why the big

12 and pac-12 did what they did, the other three conferences, why do they think it's financially viable or smart for them to go forward and not stick together for the spring. >> well, check, there have been certainly a lot of closed door meetings that have been happening over the past several days as officials and commissioners of these respective conferences have been meeting with health panels, with, of course, boosters, with their coaches, to try to figure out the best push method forward amidst all of this, but as it stands right now, with the pac-12 and big 10 deciding to postpone their season until the spring, the consensus from the officials on those conferences is they looked at all the facts presented to them and they could not find what they thought was a safe way to proceed or even a way that seemed safe. there was still too much of an inherent risk to go forward. all that said, the big 12 is now the first conference to come out today and definitively say not

only are we going to play, but here's the chilg, and the big 12 championship will tentatively been held right behind me at at&t stadium where the cowboys play. all of this is contingent upon basically implemented safe protocols with both the players and the staff, as they attempt this truncated season, whose schedule was released today, chuck. so big 12 says that they're going to go into more detail on the protocols going forward, but if and when a player tests positive, before they return to the field, they have to under go a bevy of medical testing, with a specific interest focus on the player's heart, because studies have shown even if you have mild symptoms, your heart could be impacted by even a mild case of covid-19. so a lot of questions still left up in the air. the a.c.c. and s.e.c. still watching, but as of right now, big 12 says it's game on. chuck. >> well, i have a feeling you're going to see a slew of players who think they have an nfl

future worried about what you said about the heart will end up opting out of this season completely. we shall see there. morgan chesky reporting for us live in arlington, texas. morgan, thank you, sir. up ahead, friend or foe? kamala harris has a relationship with silicon valley, but what does that relationship mean for calls within the party to break up big tech? also, the mayor of san francisco is here to explain why she lobbied the biden campaign to pick senator harris. don't go anywhere. is don't go anywhere. t for people with certain inflammatory conditions. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz. the first and only pill of its kind that treats moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, or moderate to severe ulcerative colitis when other medicines have not helped enough. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections, like tb and do blood tests. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b or c, have flu-like symptoms,

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technology correspondent, jo ling kent, and this was an interesting story that i caught this morning out of voxx, and it's how there's a whole bunch of folks in the tech community breathing a sigh of relief that it is harris and really not any of the others. that there was a fear that joe biden, you know, hadn't really decided how tough he wanted to get on big tech, and had warren been his running mate, they would have been hiding under their desks this morning. >> chuck, that's right. senator harris is certainly not senator elizabeth warren. she has stopped short of calling for the breakup of big tech, and she has very long well developed friendships with executives in silicon valley. first, her brother-in-law is tony west, there chief legal officer at uber, than sheryl sanberg, she's close with her, the chief operating officer of facebook. she's also received donations throughout her career running for office here in california from people like brian chesky,

the airbnb ceo, great support from the ceo of sales' force, marc benioff. so overall, she could be said to be the candidate with the closest ties to silicon valley we have ever seen. at the same time, she has pushed at mark zuckerberg. i resermember covering her questions of mark zuckerberg on capitol hill in 2018 in the aftermath of the cambridge analytica scandal. she grilled him about privacy and transparency, so it does go both way in terms of how she's performed as a senator, chuck. >> well, it's interesting to see, and i'll be curious to see if we start to see big fund-raising, virtual fund-raising events of silicon valley with kamala harris. my guess is we will, right? >> yeah, i think you definitely will see a lot more fund-raising. there's been a lot of support in just the last 24 hours for her, and the idea here is that

silicon valley cares so much about issues of immigration and regulation, and harris has said that, you know, she is in favor of some kind of regulation when it comes to protecting consumers here, but privacy and security certainly on the top of her agenda. it's just very unclear as to how far she's willing to go to regulate these tech companies as we navigate this tiktok world where the white house has been so involved in these deals around privacy and security. so a lot of uncharted territory here coming up ahead, chuck. >> yeah. we know, my guess is silicon valley just wants certainty, whatever that looks like. jo ling kent in los angeles for us, jo, thank you. i want to turn to another california official, obviously, several of them were lobbying joe biden to pick senator harris. but i want to single one out, the mayor of san francisco, london breed, who joins me now. so, tell me the case you made to the biden campaign of why kamala

harris over some of these other folks. >> well, i was born and raised in san francisco, and i actually was raised by my grandmother in public housing and had the kind of experience of dealing with violence and hopelessness and frustration and the challenges that still exist today that we are fighting to overcome now are the kind of things that i worked directly with kamala harris on when she served as a district attorney. never before have we had that kind of relationship where we had a d.a. who wanted to work with the community, provide second chances through her back on track program, and other things that we weren't necessarily used to. we were used to people who wanted to lock folks up. and the fact is, there are so many people that i even grew up with who were locked up for things that they never did before. this was an opportunity to work with someone who actually cared about real justice and what that means to all communities in san francisco. so i pushed hard because of my

personal relationship and friendship with her over the years, and the work in the community. she's become a friend, a mentor, someone who is compassionate, someone who cares about people specifically, and the injustices that have held so many people back. and she is absolutely the perfect candidate to work with vice president biden on bringing not only the party together but the country together like never before, because we need strong united leadership at this time. >> so what do you say to those folks who say she was too tough of a prosecutor, that she locked up too many people as a d.a. of san francisco? now y take your point that you may make, which is some of this has been -- it goes through the social media sort of, you know, machine, which makes it all feel almost just like people just top line it and all of that, but do you think the criticism has been unfair to her? >> i think it's definitely been

unfair. the fact is, again, i live in this community. and during the time when she served as the d.a., we were dealing with the worst, absolute worst violence in the history of our city. the people i grew up with, there were gun battles, and i was losing not only my friends that i grew up with, i was losing the kids of my friends in this city at this time, and the d.a. worked with us on those particular challenges. so you know, folks don't really even know what was going on in san francisco at that time. i was living in it. and kamala harris was the one who showed up, who worked with us, specifically when we had someone who was killed in front of over 50 kids and adults at a gymnasium where it was a safe zone. and the fact that these kids and these family members witnessed this and the first thing kamala did was pick up the phone, call, and say what are we doing to help support those families and kids who witnessed this? how are we getting them the

support that they need? how are we going to make sure that we insure their safety? i work with her on the front lines. that's a completely different kamala than what people are trying to imply that she is. she is a tough person, but she's a compassionate person. and she is the kind of person that we need who understands the complexities of all of these issues that we face as a nation. >> well, she is bringing a lot of government experience in different levels of government. you don't often see that. she's work in the city, state, federal government. that's a level of experience you don't aurch goften get in any p the ticket. london breed, thanks for spending a few minutes with us and making your case. >> of course, thank you, chuck. >> up next, we go to battleground states for reaction to this newly formed democratic ticket. we'll have live reports from arizona and wisconsin after a quick break.

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this afternoon the country will get its first look at joe biden and kamala harris as the united democratic ticket in person. see how voters are responding so far, we'll want to continue our check-in with our county to county project. we'll take you to other parts of the country, reporters have been speaking to voters on the ground.

to check in on phoenix and milwaukee, we go to vaughn hillyard and shaquille brewster in milwaukee. we'll start out west in arizona. vaughn, this is a statistic that i'm going to say over and over, kamala harris is the first democrat, west of the rockies to be on a national ticket, it's quite something. >> reporter: exactly. outside of texas, the first representation of the west, which gets to the heart of the conversation of why here in arizona that's important, in 2016, donald trump won the state by just over 3 percentage points, and yet, he did that despite, when you look at the latino vote, here across america, it barely increased from the 2020 levels and that's why democrats are hopeful that an expanded latino turnout in the state could upend this election in favor of joe biden. listen to part of a conversation that i had with 24-year-old

randy perez, with a local grassroots organization that works in black and brown communities here. we first tacked back in spring, when his group endorsed bernie sanders. i want to hear from him what the addition of kamala harris brings to this ticket. >> you speak to her experience, as a black woman, as an asian american woman, who someone who came up in the civil rights move. in california, someone who can speak to those issues. someone who supports medicare for all, such a priority not just during covid but always for our people. i think that's someone we can engage with, also a lot of our members are documented, fighting to stay in this country. she's a very good strong on that issue. >> randy said it, talking about issues important here. you're talking about a lack of

laptops and wifi for students who are trying to virtually learn. a lack of public transportation. these are the issues. she grew up east of the bay area, now lives in los angeles, and when she was in sacramento, just north of the central valley, heavily ag, conversations with those involved in latino community here, what her addition to that ticket will bring to the folks locally. i'll toss it to shaq brewster, over in milwaukee county. >> reporter: you know the reason we continue to come back to milwaukee is because unlike where you are in arizona it was the lack of democratic enthusiasm that helped president trump narrowly win this state back in 2016, so that's what democrats are focused on and when they chose milwaukee for their convention and they're hoping senator harris does with her addition to the ticket.

>> beings a black woman, entrepreneur, single mom with daughters, it's a real game-changer. we're making history now. >> what's the difference between before you heard the ticket, and now. >> i'm supportive. i'm very supportive now. we want women's issues -- we have someone on the ticket that represents us. >> some people really are hung up on her career as prosecutor, lot of people are hung up on how strong she was in her convictions about how she felt about vice president biden in the debates earlier. however for them to be able to personal differences aside and be able to work together, i think speaks volumes to both of their characters. >> reporter: and chuck, it's important to note that so many people i spoke to, frankly didn't know senator harris, unfamiliar to a lot of people, there's still more work to be

done and then there's those who say they were skeptical of her but they're open to listening to her and listen to what she has to say this time around despite the opposition to her in the primary. chuck? >> well, and shaq, we saw it laid out earlier on what black turnout was in 2008 and 2012 and 2016 in wisconsin, it cratered in wisconsin in 2016. so one would think that they're -- we're going to find out if kamala harris can help in wisconsin, i'm guessing you'll see a lot of her there. vaughn and shaq, thank you both. we want to share this with you, kamala harris arriving at the dupont hotel in wilmington. she is under mask. she's expected to hold her first joint campaign event in person with joe biden, next hour. there she is.

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sand good day, brian williams. a busy wednesday afternoon. 3:00 p.m. hour here in the east. 12 noon out west. our friend nicolle wallace is off today. chris jansing standing by to take you the rest of the way at the next hour for "deadline: white house." we begin with historic day in politics. joe biden and kamala harris are scheduled to share the stage for their first joint appearance for running mates. within the last hour, we saw senator harris leave her hotel in wilmington on the