started challenges yet but scientists here at oxford who have one of the most advanced programs in the world say it could play a crucial role in speeding up the process. others warn such experiments are neither safe or necessary. >> desperate times may lead us to cut corners but there are reasons human challenge trials have been set up. we have to have either a rescue therapy or it has to be self-limiting. >> reporter: backed by noble laureates and leading scientists their messages are clear. if the vaccine can be found even one day soon e, it would save thousands of lives. for this man's family, hope. >> if something goes wrong, i'll

feel it until the end of the day. i think the risk is vanishingly small. >> reporter: scientists are divided over how to try it. but one thing is not in question. this pandemic only ends when they succeed. raf sanchez, nbc news, oxford. top of the hour. we have a lot we're covering right on msnbc. first up, they're ready to go. one day to go, the democratic national convention about to begin. we have a guide who you'll see and how it's going the look. the back-and-forth of the nbc correspondents' exchange with the president over the falsehoods that he spread about kamela harris. and a new warning from the cdc about children 17 and under while worries ramp up on college campuses. >> i'm really nervous about classes being in person. i think that's a really big

risk. i could hear parties happening last night. plus, the post office agreeing to stop doing one thing that make jaws drop. taylor swift in a highly unusual move weighing in on politics and taking on president trump, her warning to fans. all right. with that we say a good morning to you. it's sunday, august 16th, i'm cori coffin. >> and i'm kendis gibson at nbc headquarters in new york. when is the last time you saw las vegas seemingly this quiet. >> right. >> it remains so. >> just twinkling in the heat. 93 degrees currently in las vegas. they've hit the record heat of 113. they're going to be higher today. >> they'll break another record. but it's a dry heat. >> it's a dry heat. >> let's move on. >> let's jump into tomorrow's

democrat i democratic national convention. joe biden and kamela harris preparing. the convention, a big change from the intended location of milwaukee, wisconsin. here's look at the prime-time convention lineup. tomorrow's speakers include amy klobuch klobuchar, andrew cuomo, john kasich, governor gretchen whitmer and more. >> on tuesday joe biden will speak along with bill clinton, former secretary of state john kerry, congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cort ocasio-cortez, and chuck schumer and former u.s. attorney general sally yates. on wednesday night barack obama will speak. kamela harris will accept the party's nomination for vice president and we'll hear from

hillary clinton, nancy pelosi and senator elizabeth warren. >> on thursday, joe bide abon a with senator cory booker, pete buttigieg, tammy baldwin, tammy duckworth, and senator chris coons. a whole lot of guests. andrew yang just got invited. he's excited about it. >> we'll have coverage it during the night but also the day. let's take you to wilmington, delaware, that's where joe biden and kamela harris are staying, and they'll be gearing up for the dnc. both candidates are prepared to give their speeches from that state later this we've. that's where we find deepa shivaram. how do you prepare for something

like this? >> reporter: good morning to you. it's cold and rainy here in delaware. there's been a transition as we've gone from wisconsin to delaware. it's all new ground. i will point out in terms of the convention, there's been a lot going on. kamela harris returned to her washington, d.c., home yesterday and we're expecting her to, of course, speak on wednesday. and then joe biden expecting the nomination, of course, and that big speech on thursday. i will point out in all of this, both the biden/harris ticket as well as donald trump who's the other half of this equation have been staying on message, and what's been really interesting is yesterday the trump campaign announced donald trump himself would be giving a speech on thursday kind of ahead of joe biden's acceptance speech and he's doing it outside of biden's hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. it's a bit of trolling.

the bind campaign actually released a statement just yesterday after trump's announcement. i'm going to take a read on that for you. the biden campaign said. this the side show is a pathetic attempt to distract from the fact that trump's presidency stands for nothing but crises, lies, and division, the opposite of what pennsylvanians are hungry for and what joe biden and kamela harris represent. you see back and forth. but overall the parties are sticking to the message. trump played the same role in 2016, doing a lot of the counterprogramming to the dnc. we're seeing some of that again ahead of this week. >> trying to do what he can since he can't hold these in-person rallies that are usually so popular for him. now to the battle over the post office. the president is defending the agency's chief amid recent slowdowns, arguing that general dejoy is just trying to make the postal service great again.

nbc's josh letterman is at the white house. josh, a showdown is continuing between many on capitol hill and the administration, but there within the streets of d.c. there has also been a showdown at the postmaster general's home. >> reporter: that's right. a growing firestorm over the post office and the postmaster general with protesters marching on his home in washington, not far from here yesterday, as well as his calls for resignation from folks like bernie sanders and other democrats. the president last night distancing himself a little bit from some of the changes that have taken place at the post office, saying he hasn't spoken directly with the postmaster general about those changes, but insisting that any changes that have taken place have been about cost-cutting and the fiscal solvency of the post office, which has seen a decline in its volume particularly during the coronavirus pandemic and not

related to the upcoming election. take a listen to what the president said when he was asked directly about the changes and things we're seeing in the post office are political. >> is your postmaster general using the agency of the poefal service to create delays. >> no, not at all. he would love to see it happen. i didn't speak to him about it, but i will tell you this. i imagine he would say, numb berry one, they didn't give me the fujding for it. sitting in congress. they want a trillion dollars to bail out states, just so you understand what they want. they want a trillion dollars to bail out badly run states. that's what giving the money to the post office. >> this is the argument the president has been repeated in the last several days. it's the democrats blocking money to the post office. kendis, there's really no

universe in which this is a factual statement. this has always been a democratic initiative to always give more money to the post office including in may when democrats vowed to give $25 million to the postmaster funding in the hero's act. the president says the democrats have refused to cave to essentially everything the president wants in these negotiations and that it's, therefore, the house democrats' fault that they're not getting additional funding. political reporting shows that nancy pelosi is considering calling the house back into session to address this postal crisis, but even if that were to take place, kendis, that would likely be more about addressing this medial issue, probably not likely to see a break through and actually getting more funding or broader congressional deal. for one thing, the senate, they're also out of town, not

expected to return until after labor day. >> it's like saying nothing will get done before labor day. nbc josh letterman at the white house. thank you. joining us now, alens ya johnson, former aid. good morning to you. i want to play the following to you from the president when he raised the false birther statement. listen in. >> i don't know about it, but -- >> you do know about it. mr. president, you know. >> don't tell me what i know. let me put it differently. to me it doesn't bother me at all. i don't know about it. i read one quick article. the lawyer happens to be a brilliant lawyer. as you probably know, he wrote an article saying there could be a problem. it's not something i'm going to

be pursuing. >> is he -- she eligible, sir? >> i told you. i haven't gone into it. >> it's so easy. is she eligible, yes, thank you, move on. that's so frustrating for me to listen to, sorry. >> she tried to hold him to the fire with that. of course, camela for her own -- you know, she has chosen not to even dignify this with a response. >> she shouldn't. sorry. >> you are just as fired up about this as i am. why would she acknowledge the ignorance and racism and sexism and, quite frankly, the misogyny. as you've seen, he has a lack of

regard for any journalist of color, especially a woman of color journalist. i'm not surprised by that exchange. i am surprised this racism is still coming out of the white house. this white national sympathizer is still coming from the president. i appreciate senator clars, our next vice president, as not even dignifying his ignorant comments with a response. >> why is it these birther comments especially as a black woman and many black women are celebrating yourself, you wrote about it, when claers was named to the ticket. why is it when he says these certain things and brings up these birther things, these racist comment, it has such an impact on us, on people?

>> because we've been fighting for our dignity, our meaning slavery people -- we've been fighting since coming over as im ingredie grants. slavery is no longer legal. we've gotten through the jim crow laws. we're trow about the conversations about red linings and housing and segregated schools. but he's putting these questions on scale that questions or dignity and humanity which is a problem. what he's trying to do is kiss qualify kamela harris from being eligible to be a viable candidate. and kendis, you know this. and the black community, you've got to be three times as good to be equal with the white people. that's what he's doing. he's stoking that fear and questionable conversation around such a kwal tied candidate. he did it with president obama.

i'm not surprised he's doing it again, especially that he has this platform to do it against senator kamala harris. >> it just shows he does not have any arguments against harris's merit. so as you were mentioning, alens ya, let's switch it over to that. we have supporters of your former boss, elizabeth warren, for her record as a former prosecutor. are you at all concerned that not all factions of the party would not be 100% onboard with kamela harris? >> i think there's a lot of conversation about her record as a prosecutor in california. there are some who say she was a progressive prosecutor and that she, you know, reduced sentencing of people who shouldn't have been overly incarcerated. and there are some who have questions about her record, and that's the beautiful thing about our democracy, but we have to add that to her strong record in the senate and she was just as

progressive. there are ratings saying she was just as progressive as my former boss and bernie sanders. you put those two together plus her identity, and it show as person open conversation, open to moving forward, the movement for black lives has demands around accountability, but you have seen in the past week that what we've seen in the white house is a stark contrast to the possibility of a biden/harris administration that they are building a coalition. they received an endorsement from the working families program. so i'm not as concerned about people not showing up because i do believe with harris on the ticket, the coalition team led is going to have big conversations and do challenge the democratic party as ha whole to have more of these conversations because it seems like with the lineup, they're

not listening to the diverse coalition that got us here in 2012 and the coalition that's going to be needed in 2020. >> alencia, you say warren calls her an inspiration and she's unafraid. i love those categorizations. >> alencia, let me try it one more time. is kamela harris eligible to be president of the united states? >> she's overly qualified and eligible. she was born in the united states, absolutely. >> cool. it's easy as that. we could have been talking about mid east. he had a win. many people are like, we rooted for you, but, no -- alencia, thank you. >> thank you for having me. next week, we'll have special live coverage of the dnc every night starting at 7:00 eastern time right here on msnbc. testing slowdown. new data on how long coronavirus

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latest on the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. has surpassed 170,000 deaths. the cases in the u.s. now tops 5.3 million. the fda granted emergency observation of a newly based saliva test. they're calling it less invase uv and less expensive. it's exciting. >> and at oklahoma state university an entire sorority house is under quarantine after 21 students tested posted. as of saturday only one member was symptomatic. classes are set to begin tomorrow.

and with cases of flunker children going up there are concerns that the schools could become hot spots. >> one state in particular wants to ramp up safety measures before things go from bad to worse. any guess on what state that is? nbc's blayne alexander has the latest. >> reporter: a new warning from the cdc. covid cases among children are steadily rising. researchers say children ainges 17 and under account for more than 17% of covid cases adding to the difficult decision of parents and teachers, how to handle a return to school. in georgia, more than 1,600 in quarantine. twice as many as the first week of school. >> you send your child in for six to eight hours a day with what i've heard as a war zone. it create as new havoc in your

life. >> reporter: a teacher sickout is forces school to cancel class on monday. and as more college campuses william students back, for some, excitement is giving way to anxiety. >> i'm really nervous about classes being inperson. i think that's a really big risk. i could hear parties happening last night from my parnlt. >> reporter: at unc chapel hill, clusters of homes and housing, notre dame reporting 29 new cases. and at villanova, this unofficial gathering drew hundreds of students, the tent erected as an outdoor classroom. also moving in, the university students in georgia. the governor now signing mandate to allow cities to decide on their own. a sharp turn after suing and then withdrawing a lawsuit over atlanta's mask requirement and covid restrictions. it comes as the "atlanta

journal-constitution" offers new concerns, that georgia's current policies are not enough to stop the state's widespread and expanding cases, recommending bars and clubs in areas should cloerks something we asked the u.s. surgeon general this past week. >> closing bars, closing down or limiting indoor dieting. >> should those be rolled back in your opinion? >> one thing we know is people will find a way to go out and so we need the people of georgia to understand the importance of social distancing. >> that was nbc's blayne alexander for us in atlanta. joining us now, dr. howard koe. dr. koe, thanks for being here. i want to jump right in. what should students be doing with regard to school in the

fall? well, cori, it's fair to say we're still in the public health fight of our livens with all the schools struggling to reopen, the flu season on the horizon. we have over 5 million cases as you've noted and 170,000 deats.s cases and deaths have declined slightly, but that's like saying the speed of a runaway car has declined to 100 miles an hour. we need to maximize prevention. we need universal mask requirement in places like georgia, the south, and perfect whe everywhere around the country. in places around the country. in places with high transmission, that's going to be tougher.

>> real quick, is it your thought that proinvestigations shou provisions should take place for in-person school? >> i think it's a possibility that schools can open if it's done carefully in collaboration with all others involved. other palalaces, it will be difficult. there's a new study that finds 28% of the tests come back way too late to be meaningful. we've heard reports of test results taking ten days, some two weeks. what does that mean for this 40% of tests, and why is this still happening? >> well, keep dys, that's a very important question. we look at the testing crisis as part of the response. we've never had the supply to

meet the demand. so the number of tests have gone up dramatically over the last couple of months, and that's good new, but the demands have gone up even higher. need to test harder and smarter and clarify exactly who needs tests. there are efforts now to have more tests be point of care, rapid tests that can come back quickly as you noted in your opening story. and if we hand bore availableily in that regard, we could have that. overall we need to keep working and make the supply meet the demand. that's why we're having this delay over and over again. >> yeah. the fda approval for that saliva test, what's your take on the availability and viability of the saleh liva test? >> we're encouraged by that. we hope to get more rapid testing beyond this fall.

we need that as soon as possible. having people waiting in line for hours and waiting for days to have results come back does not work. it just impedes our efforts to have a public health response to this crisis. >> doctor, while you were talking and i know at the top you mentioned we're still in the thick of this crisis, but if the control room can pop up that map of the rolling average for the states, the rolling average, i couldn't help but look at that graphic and see a little bit of good news. not that one. it has a lot of green on it. it shows the number of cases are decreasing in the variety majority of states is. that a good sign at this point? >> yes, kendis. we have to watch that very carefully. that's a glimmer of hope here, but it's still "way too early" to call victory. i have to stress deaths are still a thousand a day. that's way too high, simply unacceptable. then we have the flu season coming up, which is going to be another burden to our public

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president trump's younger brother robert has died after being hospitalized in new york. in a statement the president said, quote, he was not just my brother. he was my best friend. donald trump visited his brother at a new york city hospital friday after a white house official said he had become seriously ill. the youngest of trump's siblings had recently made headlines after filing a lawsuit on behalf of the trump family to stop the

president's niece mary trump from publishing her boochlkt he was 71 years old. another group affected by recent operational changes to the postal service, military vets who get prescriptions through the mail. >> the v.a. has been rock solid with our scripps. they've been champions, and this disruption is killing us. >> joining us now general russel honore. he was in charge of the katrina disaster response and yet another disaster he's weighing in on. i'm going to borrow a quote from kamela. that's what it looks like. >> this is how they stay connected with moms, dads,

brothers, and sisters, and family members and getting morale packages. it's being held up as it's slowed down by the white house. for me and the veterans, it's a slowdown that's affecting medicine and elderly people who's relied on e-scripp. >> did you notice that yourself? >> yes. e-scrip is advertised heaviably by the government to use it because it's cheaper and reduce the amount of deductibles you have to pay. it's a pretty efficient system, but it relies on the post office to deliver it. right now i have a second medication that i should have gotten on saturday, yesterday.

i got an update online. it won't arrive until tomorrow. it only had to go about eight miles, this medication, and it arrives at the post office on thursday but won't be delivered until tomorrow, eight miles away. >> wow. so the slowdown has a potentially life-or-death consequences for many people out there. >> p it also slows down the mail. people have to correspond, get their water bill and everything else is slowing down, and if you don't pay that on time, you get cut off. the white house slowing down the money for testing. i think congress needs to come back to town and i think we need -- we can't march on washington, but we certainly need to be marching on these senators' offices tomorrow and remind them we need money for the post office, non-negotiable, and money for testing. if we don't get testing, the flu coming in august -- october, is going to be a major, major

problem for our country. >> what are the alternative, lieutenant general, if this does not change? as far as medicines go, there's no option. how can they continue to get their life-saving medication. >> well, you start getting information from friends and families on social media coming to your station saying this many died today, over a thousand from covid. then you're going to say, veteran found dead because he didn't have the medication. you're going to have another ticker coming out of the white house creatied by the white houe because they're slowing down our mail. they're slowing down our medicines, and they're slowing down the testing. so we've got more people dying every day because we don't have the testing and the ppe we need and now we have more people dying because they're not getting their medication. this is a crying dam shame and the white house ought to be shameful, and the people in the

white house know better. the people in the government know better. the senators know better. and think need to be shamed over this. there's no way in hell there should be money in the white house and taking over the post office which slows the system down. they're good people. over 300,000 veterans work in the post office. it ooh's double whammy it's attacking their work ethics in the post office, giving the pest office a bad name because the white house wants to slow the damn mail down. the election will solve itself, but, look, slowing the mail down is going to kill people and it's going to add another k-i-e every day. i hope americans get outraged. all of you starting today call your senators. when they open tomorrow because they're home, march on the office. we can't march in washington because of the covid, but we can

raise hello with senators while they're home. congress needs to come back in and separate the package on the post office and separate the package on the test, test, test so we can get these things passed because this is a political mess in washington. it's making our country look stupid. >> and may the church say amen. retired lieutenant general russel honore. thank you. >> thank you. >> powerful words from him. is the idea that bernie sanders supporters won't back kamela harris something real or something made up? that's next on ali velshi. t on .

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some might be bernie sanders supporter, some who don't identify the with the democratic party, some who are frustrated with the ticket of kamela harris and joe biden. when e spoke to joe biden a couple of weeks ago, he said job number one is getting trump out of office. job number two is what he calls making joe biden the most progressive president in u.s. history. so he sees it as a two-part fight. you can't get to part two about this if you don't get past one. because if donald trump is the president of the united states, there's no hope of progressives gaping any ground. as far as i can tell, i'm not sure how real it is. the question is how motivated are those progressives to vote, and bernie sanders can probably motivate them better than anyone else in the country. certainly he's one of the biggest promotors. how is he going to put his back into it to make sure they do go out and vote for biden and harris in the coming election. >> do you get a sense he's a

little more enthusiastic about this particular ticket than he was clinton/cain? >> back then they were talking about a $12 minimum wage, now $15. some think about minimum wage being $15. back then there was a lot of pushback against universal health care and now some conservatives understand it might have helped us in the ban dimmick. so there's a lot of things in the pandemic and the social justice movement have done that puts it squarely in front of bernie sanders. i think what he understands is any democratic administration at this point is going to have to take a more aggress uv approach because america has become more progressive. so i think he is enthused about the whole thing. he's made no secret of the past he and biden have had disagreements in the past, but they've formed a coalition.

i don't think he's had a ton of victories, but he's had some. i think he'll take what he thinks. >> i think, lesson learned, he's going to be more in support. >> he has been. i really enjoyed before we came on having russel honore on. that's a good way to wake up on a sunday. he brings a fire. >> isn't that amazing? he brings the fire and the protest in you out. >> if you're making your plans, exactly. >> i guess i'd better. thanks, ali. >> nice to see you. >> nice to see you too. game day slump. college football cancellations. these guys won't be paying. this year, some cancellations mean local businesses are feeling the crunch. how entire cities that depend on big sales during big games are bracing for harsh economic reality. h economic reality.

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check out this footage as ground cruise in buffalo battle massive flooding there. it forced the toronto blue jays game to be suspended. this is the first home rain delay that the blue jays have had since 2003. that's because their usual home has a retractable roof. the game will resume this afternoon. covid-19 is sidelining the big ten and pac-12. as "the washington post" hosts in a new article, in big ten cities, a fall without college football is a crushing economic blow. joining us is bill lafayette the founder of region-ohmics. >> good morning, bill. thank you for being here. first, give us a sense of just exactly how much are these cities fueled on college football? >> well, college football is a really, really big deal, even

for an economy as large as columbus's is. the impact is that people come from all over the state and beyond for these games. the dollars that they bring in are what fuels the economy. >> so you have tens of thousands of tourists, plenty of restaurants in the area, plenty of hotels that rely on it, not to mention the millions and millions of dollars that these colleges get paid for, and the athletes don't get money, but that's a whole other topic. but there are a lot of people that rely on it. >> and the television rights. that's a big deal, too. >> do you and pate the loss of any jobs because of this? we know it will be a major economic fall jowl in terms of money and expected tourism. what about jobs? >> oh, certainly there will be a

jobs impact. every tourist on average spends -- if you assume that the 100,000-seat ohio stadium is 20% tourist you have a $3.2 million impact for one game. the businesses that are really going to suffer are the ones in the campus area because they've had to deal with no students on campus since march. >> wow, that does put it in perspective and why many conferences, including the powerful s.e.c. says they're going to play no matter what how dire of a situation could these college football cities face if they head into the fall with no

football, no additional round of covid-19 relief. will they be able to survive? >> there will be many businesses that will fail, no doubt about it. it's the locally owned serving businesses that power of economy, because they retain dollars in the economy for ripple effects, additional spending. if they're gone, so are those dollars. even an economy as big as columbus's suffers. >> we also want to know, this is for the fall semester right now, the big ten has not made a decision yet about winter sports. >> correct. >> bill lafayette with us. >> bill, you're in a college town, who are you going to root for then? >> the buckeyes, of course. i have a class i'm teaching at ohio state this fall. >> look howlett he brightened up. of course, the ohio state.

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four days until joe biden accepted the nomination for president. >> the immediate task is to come together to defeat trump. then as progressives, we are going to do everything we can to maked biden administration the most progressive that it can become. >> i'll ask bernie sanders how he plans to make good on that promise. 100 years after white women earned the right to vote, a black woman will be on the ballot. plus founded in 1775, the real story behind the u.s. postal service. why it's hurting and its crucial role in america's prosperity. "velshi" starts right now. we are 79 days from the election. i'm ali velshi. more than 170,000 americans have now died