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a hearing in which they want to grill post master general and trump mega donor louis dejoy. this as president trump continues to push the fact-free claim that mail-in balloting will lead to fraud. a claim his chief of staff backed up with this stunning statement today. >> any time you move, you'll change your driver's license, but you don't call up and say, hey -- >> there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud, though. there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. >> no evidence there's not, either. that's it definition of fraud. >> so the lack of evidence is the evidence? and new poll numbers just out from nbc show why this administration may be motivated to talk about any other issue other than the pandemic engulfing the nation. joe biden currently leads the president by nine points in the poll. and this might be why. 58% of americans disapprove of the president's handling of the covid crisis.
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>> as democrats prepare for a convention in which their new vice presidential pick will take center stage, kamala harris is making it crystal clear today she's ready to take on whatever trump and republicans dish out from false birtherism claims to accusations of being too ambitious. >> they're going to engage in lies. they're going to engage in deception, in an attempt to distract from the real issues. >> for the latest on the battle surrounding the post office, let's go to josh ledderman at the white house. we just played that sound from chief of staff mark meadows arguing somewhat awkwardly the lack of evidence of voter fraud is the evidence of voter fraud? >> yeah, those comments already being compared on twitter, lindsey, to former defense secretary don rumsfeld in the leadp to the iraq war saying the absence of evidence does not mean the the absence of evidence. basically, the fact that you don't have evidence of something
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doesn't mean it's not necessarily there. not a great comparison there, but this coming as we're starting to see glimmers of hope, perhaps, from the white house as far as those negotiations to add funding to the postal service, to address this very issue. we heard meadows saying this morning that perhaps this should be done in a piecemeal fashion. perhaps there should be some money for the post office in exchange for stickulous checks, other things the white house wants, although democrats have rejected that piecemeal approach. this is coming as democrats are really ramping up their attempts to exert oversight over this postal service issue with house democrats joining with senate democratic leadership to say they want both the post master general and the board of governors chairman for the postal service to testify a week from tomorrow before congress. now, we have asked the postal service whether the post master general intends to comply with
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that request. we'll have to see whether or not that's going to happen. so far, we have not gotten confirmation he will go ahead and testify, but in the meantime, the house, nancy pelosi considering actually bringing back the house from recess ahead of schedule to try to deal with this crisis. >> well, and all of this is kind of happening still as the president is still not clearing up that false claim that's been floating around that kamala harris isn't eligible to run for vice president. in fact, i want to listen to an exchange yesterday that i saw between nbc's kelly o'donnell and the president at his news conference in bedminster. >> i just don't know about it, but it's not something that we will be pursuing. >> but you do. mr. president, you know. you can simply clear this up. >> don't tell me what i know. let me put it differently. let me put it differently. to me, it doesn't bother me at all. i don't know about it. i read one quick article. the lawyer happens to be a
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brilliant lawyer. as you probably know. he wrote an article saying there could be a problem. it's not something that i'm going to be pursuing. >> is she eligible, sir? >> i just told you y have got knaun into it in great detail. if she's got a problem, you would have thought she would have been vetted. >> kelly o'donnell persistently asking the president and he was kind of ducking answering the question. kamala harris now reacting to that. what is she saying? >> that's right, senator harris responding for the first time to these comments from the president, speaking in an interview with a website oriented toward african-american readers. senator harris saying she knows these attacks are coming, and she's ready for them. take a listen. >> look, i'm very clear-eyed about the fact they are going to engage, as you said, in what they have done throughout his administration, which is let's just be very candid and straightforward. they're going to engage in lies,
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in deception, in an attempt to distract from the real issues impacting the american people. i expect they will engage in dirty tactics and this is going to be a knock down drag out, and we're ready. >> and we have been speaking with white house officials about this. they really feel that the president is getting more heat than he deserves on this because the president feels like this is one instance where he hasn't been proactively fanning the flames on this. he didn't bring it up on his own volition. it's something he's been asked about. and saying that he's not planning to make an issue out of it, meanwhile, we have been hearing from the president's advisers saying on the record as far as they're concerned, it's a settled matter. they do consider her to be an eligible candidate for vice president. but of course, that is not really placating the concerns of democrats who say the president, by not just affirmatively stating that and closing the book on this, is encouraging his supporters to continue to raise these baseless questions about senator harris' eligibility.
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>> all right, josh at the white house, busy day for you, thank you so much. >> and brand-new numbers out from an nbc/"wall street journal" poll are sure to give democrats a good feeling heading into their convention tomorrow. the poll taken during and after the rollout of kamala harris as the new vice presidential candidate show joe biden up by nine points nationally. in battleground states, that lead is seven points. joining me now from wilmington, delaware, is shaquille brewster, and msnbc political analyst susan del percio. shaq, what is the campaign's plan to capitalize on some of these polls during the convention? . it's really to hold on to this momentum and stay laser focused on their messaging. that's why you heard the comments and the conspiracy theory floated about senator kamala harris. they're trying to ignore that, deflect from that, and energize their own voters. staying focused on the president's coronavirus response, staying focused on their plans for what will happen
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if they get elected. that's what they continue to focus on and it seems to be working. not only the nine-point lead in our nbc news/"wall street journal" national poll, but that's a lead we have seen mirrored in other polling that was also released this morning, then you also saw that general approval of senator harris as vice president biden's pick. in addition to that, we're just one day away from the democratic national convention. we know that tomorrow, we will hear from the likes of michelle obama, we'll hear from senator amy klobuchar. they're trying to build that excitement. we'll also hear from senator bernie sanders, who was interviewed by chuck todd on "meet the press" this morning. he said his message will be about maintaining american democracy, but listen to his response and show of unity he's trying to express when chuck todd asked him about medicare for all and that division we talked about so long during the primaries, when he asked why medicare for all was only mentioned once in the democratic platform. listen to how senator bernie sanders responded.
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>> i am not the candidate. so my views are not the dominant views. but what i will credit strongly the biden campaign for is that joe and i talked about this. and he and i agree that we should have task forces dealing with some of the major issues facing this country, including the economy and health care, climate change, immigration, education, et cetera. >> also speaking tomorrow will be former republican governor john kasich. you're going to have a day where you have michelle obama, bernie sanders, and john kasich. you see the biden cares campaign really trying to show they have a coalition that they believe they're building as they head into the general election. >> susan, let's talk about this net positivity rating. kamala harris, the only candidate on either ticket who has a net positive rating. she's at a plus five. so pence, biden, and trump, they're all underwater. tru trump by 12 points. can you explain what this rating
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means and how significant the numbers are? >> it shows she had a very good rollout as being announced as the vice president nominee for the democratic party. it will -- she'll start getting some hits. she will get some negative numbers showing up down the road because she'll be back in the public eye. it's not unusual, in fact, it's very normal. what she has shown is that she can go out there and make a case against donald trump. and by him responding to her is a big mistake because the way he does it in his racist, misogynist way, he turns off those moderate republicans and right of center independents. and that's where this race is going to come down to. >> and susan, one thing we keep hearing from democrats over and over again is the president's handling of coronavirus. and the poll numbers are showing that is driving his poor numbers right now. 58% of americans believe that they disapprove.
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61% say his handling of the pandemic has been unsuccessful. we're 79 days out. so clearly, democrats are going to keep pushing this as their main message. is there any way that that could actually backfire against them if we will see what the president says and that is a v-shaped recovery? >> i don't think there's anything to hurt the biden team by going after his handling of coronavirus. but they also have another significant job to do, and that is reflected in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll. the most important issue by 51% to voters was in fact the economy. and the only place that donald trump is bringing -- is beating -- the only significant issue i should say that donald trump is beating biden is in fact on the economy with a ten-point spread. so that is concerning. and i think the biden team has to use this convention as a way
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of reintroducing him to the public, to say what he is for. because another thing that poll shows is that the majority of people are voting against trump, not for biden. >> yeah, trump still enjoying quite a bit of motivation and enthusiasm among his base. shaq brewster and susan del percio, thank you both. >> after initially being canceled due to coronavirus concerns, the icon iic way in which new york memorializes 9/11 victims will continue. it's the beams that shine continuously into the night sky of manhattan. yesterday, andrew cuomo stated the state would provide health personnel and supervision to make sure everyone working the memorial is staying safe. this year marks the 19th anniversary of the september 11th attacks. still ahead, a different kind of convention, like everything else in this pandemic, the democratic national convention has had to adapt.
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welcome back, everybody. this is where the democratic convention was supposed to be taking place. beautiful downtown milwaukee, wisconsin. high of 80 degrees today. not a cloud in the sky. but because of coronavirus, the convention, which normally attracts 10s of thousands, will mostly be virtual from the speakers to the delegates. here's some of the highlights. on monday, senator sanders and michelle obama have planned speeches. on tuesday, the keynote address will feeature not one, not two, but 17 of the democratic party's quote, rising stars. we'll also hear from former president clinton and dr. jill biden. on wednesday, kamala harris is
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expected to accept her vp nomination and former president obama is listed to speak, and thursday, joe biden will accept the democratic nomination for president. joining me now, john podesta, chairman of hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, and founder and director of the center for american progress. good to see you. you've got plenty of experience running these conventions, seeing how they're run. so how will this year's be different? >> well, i have been to nine of them, and this is definitely going to be different than all of the ones i have been to. i think it's a little bit like the difference between putting on a rock festival and doing a studio album. and both can be great. but they're definitely different. they'll have to think a lot about how they bring the audience into the experience of the convention without really that enthusiasm of the crowd as speakers are speaking in a big hall. but i think what you saw in the
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rollout was they're very -- the campaign is very good at bringing both vice president biden and senator harris directly into camera and really, i think, that's a great opportunity for them actually. >> even in the rollout, we saw some awkward moments, silences there, like switching the podium. no music, no roaring crowd. how do you keep audiences engaged? >> well, they're going to have to be creative. i think you noted that they're going to have 17 rising stars. you know, the first way iyou go to know president obama was when he was running for senate and gave the keynote address at the 2004 convention in boston and gave an outstanding performance. that's how the country got to know him. this time, we're going to see 17 rising stars from the democratic party. obviously, everyone is only going to have a minute or two to speak, and it will be led by, you know, some outstanding
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people like stacey abrams and these younger politicians from around the country. it's going to -- i think that could be a really interesting moment, and people could get to know, get the feel of what's to come. but the most i think important thing that as susan said in the last segment, that the campaign needs to do is they need to lay out the specific plans, i think that vice president biden and senator harris are putting forward, before the american people. how are we going to deal with the coronavirus, how are we going to get the economy back on track. the vice president's laid out a lot of specific plans, but i don't think the american public has heard most of that, so i think we'll be seeing some of that as well in this convention. >> how important do you think enthusiasm is right now? because according to that nbc news/"wall street journal" poll we keep alluding to, trump still enjoys enthusiasm. 58% of biden voters say they're voting for him to vote against
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trump. but 74% of trump voters say their main motivation is trump and not beating biden. is that something they can maybe play a little catch-up this week? >> yeah, well, look. i think there's enthusiasm on getting trump out of the white house, too, so enthusiasm goes both ways. but it really is, i think, incumbent to really introduce these people who i think they know them generally, they know both vice president biden and obviously they know senator harris generally, her popularity remains strong. but they don't know the depth of their story, their experience, what they want to do. and this will be a real opportunity, again, to be able to be direct with the american public, kind of uninterrupted by all the applause, the cheering, what is normally -- >> the standing. >> the stage, and organized
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process that goes on on the convention floor. that will be stripped away. and as i said, i think, you know, it was the case that the delegates were used to project enthusiasm. now i think they're going to have to use the appearances by the candidates and by the others, by president obama, by michelle, by bernie, by bill clinton, and others, to really build and include people and bring them out of the audience and into that spirit that we can get this done. we can get the country back on track. we can bring the country together, and i think you'll hear a lot of that during these next four days. >> we saw a lot of people felt that kamala harris helped enthusiasm on the biden ticket. but as quickly as we saw that, we saw birtherism attacks and now the president's refusal to shut them down. you ran against trump. you have more experience on this, perhaps, than anyone.
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does the president's ability to keep something like this alive pose a danger to the campaign? >> well, i think first of all, people have had four years more of experience to know what a disaster the way he operates, what it really looks like. and the coronavirus is probably exhibit number one, his mishandling of that. but he's going to try to distract people. that's what he does. he'll use his twitter account. he'll say outrageous things. he'll refuse to answer direct questions about senator harris' obvious qualifications to be vice president or president. and you know, i think they're being smart in not taking the bait. i think one of the things that we confronted was that he was like catnip, particularly with the media. he would say something, everybody would run to it, and you're caught in either having to answer it or trying to change
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the subject. i think the bide ebiden/harris have been very disciplined to get their message out, to not take this bait, and i think that's what they're going to have to do going forward. having said that, i think surrogates for the campaign need to call him out for the racism, for the continued misogyny that he's pushing forward in the campaign. and i think that vice president biden said he's got senator harris' back, and i think a lot of democrats across the country have her back. >> finally, before we let you go, you recently participated in a 2020 election simulation. it was with a transition integrity project. you role played as biden and in one of the outcomes you contested the election. why did you run through that as a possibility? >> well, we were a team that played the biden team, so i don't want to overstate my role. but there was in the scenario we were playing out, there was massive voter suppression, as
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where we are anticipating seeing again. biden won the popular vote by even more than hillary won in 2016, by 5 million votes rather than 3 million votes. that we won in 2016. and so we thought it was inappropriate to concede, to contest the election, to contest the results, and contest the interference with the proper functioning of the election. little did we know this was, i guess, about six weeks ago, we probably didn't even anticipate what we're seeing now going on with the postal service, with their attempt to interfere with the election, with their attempt to make it as difficult as possible for people to vote, to make sure that votes -- that ballots don't get to voters and that voters, when the ballots won't get back to be properly counted. i think we all have to fight against that and fight for our
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democracy, but i think in those circumstances, you know, what we're going to experience, and i think this is probably the big takeaway, is this is not going to be election night. this is going to be election week or election month as we're counting these votes, and i think trump will try to create chaos during that period of time, and the media has a real obligation to set the facts straight with the american people and to properly put in context what's going on with the long vote count with mail-in votes. >> this convention be less stressful for you? >> yeah, a lot less stressful. >> john podesta. >> i'll sit back like everyone else and watch it and enjoy it on television. >> enjoy watching it from the comfort of your home. thank you so much for your time today. >> beginning tomorrow, you can join msnbc for our special coverage of dhmeemocratic natio convention, hosted by rachel
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can they do now to prevent chaos in the future? >> yeah, lindsey. election officials are heeding the warning from the usps about the delays that we're likely to see come november when it comes to this influx of mail-in voting. they're telling me voters just need to really, they can't procrastinate this year. you have to apply for your mail-in ballot early and send it in as early as possible because that's the surefire way that your vote will be counted. but they also point out that individual states can do a lot to help as well. they can allow ballots that are postmarked before election day or by election day to still count even if they come in after the fact, and some states, pennsylvania included, can early up the ballot processing timeline so elected officials can get that process going a little faster and it saves them some time on the back end when it comes to counting the ballots. there's a lot of frustration from election officials. i spoke with one voting advocacy expert, andrea hallie, about how simple all of this should be. take a listen.
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>> it's crazy, you know, that we are the country that landed a man on the moon. we can certainly hold our elections in a way that is free and fair. it's just about whether we have the collective will to do it. and i think that's really the lesson of this year. all these things seem very, very confusing, but when you really break it down, they're not. allow voters to vote from home or vote in person, and allow them to early vote. that way there are enough options on the table for everybody to be able to participate. after that, fund the elections. fund the postal office, like, allow people's mail to run on time. >> so a lot of frustration because basically, a lot of these simple changes, a variety of options, just take some state houses, some legislation to say yes, change the bills, and elected officials tell me that this has just become too political to run this election, so a lot of frustration on their
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end. >> mara barrett in philadelphia, thank you. another group affected by reese btd operational changes to the postal service are military veterans who get prescriptions through the mail. this morning, lieutenant general russel honore told nbc how important the post office is to vets. >> speaking of the military deployed around the world, this is how they really stay connected with mom, dad, brothers and sisters and family members, and get their morale packages. those packages are being held up because the slowdown that's been directed by the white house, and for me and the veterans, it's a slowdown that's affecting our medicines as well as elderly people who rely on e-scripts to deliver their medicines. >> i'm joined by david fineman, who served as governor of the united states postal service from 1995 through 2005. and you recently wrote an op-ed for barrons in which you said the postal service is losing billions because of the
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pandemic. running out of money is a question of when, not if. its board of governors made up only of trump administration apointes and the president of the united states scalled the postal service a joke. you served under multiple administrations, republican and democratic, so walk us back. how did we get to this spot? >> it's hard for me to say how we got to this spot. i will say this, the postal service was reorganized in 1971. so that there would be nine governors, five of one party, four of another, and they would choose the post master general. no longer would it be a political appointee. and now, we are in a position where for reasons that are unclear to all of us that the postal service has become a political football. it should not be that. you should be -- it should be run in a bipartisan way. when i served both under
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president clinton and under president bush, i never heard from the white house. i never heard from the white house. we were running a profit. we were running it in an efficient manner, and there's no reason to believe the postal service can't be run in that manner now. clearly, the postal service has lost money as a result of the pandemic, and -- >> it's also a different time. you have amazon now and ups and fedex and all these other companies that have gotten involved. >> absolutely. we had, you know, in 2006, the act was changed, and they created both competitive mail and monopoly mail. competitive mail was clearly going to be competitive with ups, fedex, other private delivery companies. you know, there's been a great influx of packages to the postal service. and quite frankly, that should make a profit for them. but we're at a bad time.
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you know, if congress and the president could bail out the airlines and multinational companies, they can certainly find the money to bail out the united states postal service. >> well, i want to play something the president said about absentee voting versus mail-in voting. let's listen. >> absentee voting is great. you request -- i'm an absentee voter because i requested, i got, and i sent in my vote. that works very well. absentee is good. mail-in, universal, is very, very bad. >> what's the distinction there? >> i'm not sure i understand the distinction, quite frankly. you know, it's just a little bit more mail. right? he's going to vote. he's going vote from washington, d.c., i assume. in florida. he's going to cast a ballot in washington, d.c., put it in the mail, and send it to florida. or he's going to go down to mar-a-lago and cast that ballot
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down there. but quite frankly, i'm mystified as to what the real difference is. sure, there will be a little more volume, but there's no reason the postal service can't handle that volume. >> david, it's been great to have you today. thank you so much for joining us and adding your perspective. and still ahead, new body camera video in the beth of george floyd. what the new angle reveals about his last moments. your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill... ...can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred...
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kamala harris was the first woman to serve as california's attorney general. and her time in that office and as district attorney of san francisco has put a focus on her record regarding criminal justice. in a new interview today with essence magazine, harris promises that a biden/harris ticket will fight for criminal justice reform and police reform. nbc's scott cohn is in harris' home town of oakland. what are you learning? >> hi, lindsey. as we all now know, kamala
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harris was born here in oakland in 1964, about two miles from where i'm standing. she spent her early years next door in berkley. her roots in this area do run deep, but there's some debate about the depth of her convictions. she has repeatedly been difficult to define throughout her career, both as a local prosecutor and now as a u.s. senator. and this is unscientific, but you talk to people here along lake merritt, and you get a sense of that debate. some people say that she is open-minded and flexible. others say it's flip-flopping. >> i think that she has demonstrated herself to be able to think through things that she's represented us on the state, as a federal senator. in washington, d.c. and also, i think she's been able to look at all of the issues in a pretty balanced and thoughtful perspective. >> especially when she was running for the obviously for
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the nomination as president for the democratic party, i thought it was a little alarming how she was flip-flopping. >> that woman said she was so concerned about the choice of kamala harris as vice president biden's running mate that she is convinced now she is not going to vote for that ticket. she would have preferred stacey abrams. she's now searching for alternatives and said she has not ruled out voting to re-elect the president. lindsey. >> scott cohn in oakland, thank you for that. >> amid a global pandemic and an upcoming presidential election, protests and counterprotests calling for an end to police brutality and racism are still happening across the country. in portland, what started as a peaceful protest last night devolved into what police declared was a riot by midnight. they ordered about 300 people to leave and clashed with protesters in the streets. yesterday marked the 80th night
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of protest in the city against the presence of federal officers, police brutality, and racism. in chicago yesterday, more unrest and clashes with police after a peaceful black lives matter march merged with another anti-police demonstration. police say two dozen people were arrested. and at least 17 officers were treated for injuries. >> and in stone mountain, georgia, a white nationalist demonstration faced off with counterprotesters outside the city's park. prompting police to step in and break it up. the group planned to hold a demonstration in stone mountain park, which houses a confederate memorial of generals including robert e. lee, but the park closed due to security concerns. now, a newly released body camera video of george floyd's final moments. the incident that sparked protests across the world. what it shows is shedding new light of what happened during that fateful encounter with minneapolis police. nbc's shaquille brewster has details, and a warning, the images are disturbing.
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>> new police body camera footage releases from george floyd's death. >> what's going on? >> the video from former minneapolis police officer tew tao. a new angle showing the growing crowd repeatedly pleaing with officers. >> he's not even [ bleep ] moving. get off his neck, bro. get off his neck? >> holding back near a dozen bystanders as the former officer derek chauvin pins him to the ground with his knee. >> he's not even resisting arrest. >> we tried that for ten minutes. >> you can hear floyd telling officers repeatedly that he can't breathe. >> i can't breathe. i can't move. >> at one point, a woman who prosecutors say was an off-duty firefighter approaches tao. >> are you really a firefighter? >> yes, i am from minneapolis. >> okay. get on the sidewalk. >> check his pulse. check his pulse. >> get back on the sidewalk. >> the man ain't moved yet. >> the video is more evidence in a case against the four former
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officers involved in floyd's death. >> derek chauvin is charged with second degree murder and manslaughter. tao and two other ex-officers charged with aiding and abetting. all face up to 40 years in prison if convicted. >> you couldn't bring it -- >> also released by the court, new video of thao's interview with investigators eight days after the death. >> i was concerned. i would hope the other officers would do their job and check on him. >> the investigators even asking thao abochauvin pressing his kn into floyd's neck. >> that move, is it something you have been trained in? >> i never used it. >> the interview lasting nearly two hours. minnesota prosecutors now asking the judge to try all four men together. the former officers expected to be in court next month. shaquille brewster, nbc news.
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nursing homes around the united states are experiencing a spike in coronavirus cases after weeks of steady declines. new reports of the american health care association show confirm cases in deaths in assisted living homes surged between the months of may and july. chris, only two weeks ago the florida governor raised the possibility of reintroducing nursing home visits to families as long as they test positive for coronavirus antibodies, has that changed? >> reporter: nothing is set in stone just yet. governor ron desan tis is still
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exploring ways that people who have loved ones inside nursing homes can visit them safely. he put together task force to study the issue. they first met on friday. they will meet again on tuesday. it's compromised of people, members of the state government who work in health care as well as representatives from the nursing home industry. there's a woman on there who is care giver. she famously here in the orlando area got a job at the nursing facility where her husband is so she could see him in person. obviously, these facilities have been shut down to visitors since about mid-march. that's when the governor took the mood the try to stem the tide of coronavirus in these facilities. obviously, people who have loved ones in nursing homes want to see them in some form of fashion and want to be able to visit with them. the state is still studying the issue right now. it's a touchy one.
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you look at the statistics right now. i think florida is approaching 9500 coronavirus deaths. of those, 3800 happened in people who either stay in nursing homes or work in nursing homes. that's about 40%. that's a trend that health organizations are seeing nationwide. the number of dead, approximately 40% are taking place in health care nursing home facilities and assisted living facilities. what you're going to see here in florida is it looks like this battle amongst this task force will be set up based on testing. some from the industry are advocating that anybody who comes to meet with a loved one or care giver that comes to meet with one of their patients will have to take an instant test to show that they don't have covid-19 before they go in. there are some from the state who insist there is a way to do it safely using ppe, personal protective equipment and not
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having to test. i think that when this task force meets on tuesday you might see some more back and forth over that of whether people who meet with nursing home residents will have to be tested before they do that. >> 40% of deaths tied to nursing homes. thank you for that reporting. let's go to texas where coronavirus testing has plummeted in the last two weeks. the state has more than 550,000 confirmed cases. more than 10,000 people have died. a doctor from hidalgo county takes us behind the scenes to see the upsetting impact coronavirus has on their most vulnerable patients. >> i was woken up to the usual phone call of a patient had been dying for five days. >> obviously, i can't show a picture of the patient but i'm sitting here on this woman who has changed her mind multiple times.
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she's actively dying. what i wanted to video was for you to hear the sound of these poor patients as they progress. this is all you hear in these units is a gasping for breath. that's her. that's her gasping. it's horrible. the next step is putting her on a ventilator which is family is assisting and we strongly disagree. it's frustrating. >> last night after having four people die, one of them went out after i discharge back to the nursing home and having to convince the family why it was an unwise decision to keep her in the hospital. only to be rep rimanded by the
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