good afternoon. kamala harris is fighting back very directly today against the attacks already coming her way. also this hour, prepare for the hot seat. democrats ready to return to work to grill postmaster general and trump donor about whether politics is behind what's going on at the post office. i'll talk to a member of the committee that is calling on dejoy to testify. bill barr potentially preparing an election surprise. the investigation the president clearly thinks will help him re-election. plus, campus bubble. the extreme measures one college is taking to try to keep i wants students safe. that's later this hour. the democratic presidential ticket heads into the start of their convention tomorrow with the wind at their backs after

announcing vice presidential candidate kamala harris this week and new nbc wall street journal poll numbers show they are still in control of the race. the poll taken during and after the roll out of harris as the v.p. pick has joe biden up by nine points nationally. in bat ground states that lead is 7 points. harris is also responding to the attacks against her in a series of interviews today. joining me now from delaware. kamala harris gave an interview. she addressed the attacks against her. here is what she said. >> look, i'm very clear eyed about the fact they are going to engage, as you said, in what they have done throughout his administration which is let's be very candid and straightforward. they are going to engage in lies. they will engage in deception an an attempt to distract from the real issues impacting the american people. i expect they will engage in dirty tactics and this will be a

knock down drag out. we're ready. >> what does "we're ready" mean? what will be the campaign's plan of attack. is this first and only time you think she'll talk about this or will they keep going back to the table to fight against some of these attacks? >> reporter: well, we reported this week that member of biden's vice presidential search economy ask -- committee two of the same questions. what would be your agenda in the white house and the other was what do you think donald trump's nickname for you would be in testimothe campaign? biden saying he wanted to have a governing partner in the white house but the second was a realization that whoever he chose was going to face a unique set of attacks as not just because president trump and his campaign made clear that's their approach to politics but because they were choosing a woman. these members of his search committee spent 120 hours

meeting with democratic stake holders including members of women's organization who is have tried to elevate and promote women candidates do get a picture of unique threats and challenges they face during a political campaign at this level. there's been two people of color ever on a presidential ticket. joe biden served on a ticket with both of them. barack obama in 2008 and 2012 and his choice of kamala harris. it was so interesting to hear what he said when he introduced kamala harris as his running mate. he said we have to have her back. the biden campaign knows that these kind of takes will be tape l of this campaign and making it clear as you saw from senator harris they will respond forcefully and aggressively when you hear them. >> what's the strategy going to be? it will be to drum up more enthusiasm for biden or try and remind everybody how he's not trump? >> reporter: well, one of the

themes of this convention is unite the country. one of the things that has united the democratic party behind joe biden as the nominee is that opposition to president trump but the convention organizers, the biden campaign, they know they do have to do more than that. they have to introduce biden to the country. somebody who has been staple of nas national politics for a decade. one of the things bide taulks about is trying to highlight the contrasts. all of those things when they highlight them about joe biden speak to a lot of the things americans feel about president trump. they'll try to do both at the same time. another thing you'll see in this convention is an attempt by the biden campaign to elevate some of the future stars in this country in the democrat party and introduce them as a picture of what the party stands for. you'll see that in something of an unusual development. rather than one keynote speech which is what we see at a convention. democrats are highlighting 17

keynote speakers led by stacy abrams from georgia. we'll see congressman collin alred from texas. two congressmen from pennsylvan pennsylvania. one from the pittsburgh area as well as the mayor from the state of alabama. those are some of names they will be highlighting in what is a very unique, unusual convention having to do so much of this digitally. a lot of those speaks that are typically longer speeches will be much more condensed. that's what you'll see in the 17-person keynote address. >> thanks for breaking down what we can expect to see. beginning tomorrow, join msnbc for special coverage of the democratic national convention. hosted by rachel maddow, nicole wallace, joy reid and brian williams. watch monday through thursday this week at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. today, democratic leaders in

congress are demanding testimony from the postal service. let's bring in josh letterman at the white house. mark meadows was demanding claims that mail in ballots lead to fraud. we'll spplay part of that. >> do you realize how inaccurate the voter rolls are with people moving around. let alone the people that die off but sending ballots off based on a voter roll. any time you move, you'll change your driver's license but you don't call up -- >> there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. >> there's no evidence there's not either. that's the definition of fraud. >> congressional democrats are vowing to not let this go. can you tell us where the issue

is. >> reporter: there's a few things taking place converging to send democrats into real crisis mode. on the one hand, you have the president continuing to stoke fears about mail in voting and spread misinformation about widespread fraud that we have not seen take place. the kinds of allegations that his chief of staff mark made does was echoing in that clip. you also have these structural changes to postal service operations that the president and the postmaster general have insist eed about cost cutting a getting the fiscal house in order. they have seen a drop off in demand. that had been already in the works prior to this latest controversy but it's now exacerbating concerns from democrats really on both sides of the capital. as we head into this election where we're expecting to see record numbers of people trying to vote in mail due to the concerns about coronavirus.

the house has all gone on. now a possibility they will be brought back early. now senate democrats saying they believe they should also, the senate should come back to washington to deal with this. listen to what chuck schumer had to say about it this morning. >> i'm demanding that the senate hold hearings and call mr. dejoy and the head of the postal commission before them this week. i'm demanding that leader mcconnell go into regular session so we can have these hearings. if mr. dejoy refuses to appear, he should be stamped return to sender. he shouldn't be allowed to be

the postmaster general if all this destruction, he can't answer to the american people what he is doing. >> reporter: we don't yet know whether the postmaster general will agree to testify. we are getting some sense from the white house that the opposition to more funding for the post office may be starting to erode. meadows saying on television this morning that he does think the president would sign some funding for the post office if it's part of deal where the white house got some of what it wapd wa wants. >> jacob, you have been following this story for some time. there is hearing. what would come of it because they have already said this has nothing to do with trying to manipulate the election. they are cost cutting measures. >> that's a good question. the committee leadership is interested in figuring out what

kind of communication the postmaster general is having with the white house or with administration officials. we just touched on earlier the relationship with the president. he's major fund-raiser. he was the finance chair from the gop convention. that's what committee leadership is interested in. as the president has come out and openly admitted he's interested in withholding funding from the postal service because he think that would hobble its ability to facilitate the election, if there's

communication between the white house and the postal service which traditionally in past administrations have not been. >> okay. this is all happening also as we're seeing images of some of these blue mailboxes being removed. you write, though the usps contends the blue boxes are moved frequently depending on mail volume, this really underscores the heightened sensitivities around an agency that's been in president trump's cross hairs for months. even though they are claiming there's nothing sinister that is going on, does the reality match the optics. we're looking at those blue boxes in the flat bed of a truck. >> yeah. the postal service says this is routine. this has to do with mailboxes of low volume areas where costs money and fuel and man hours and maintenance costs to go out and check these mailboxes when there might not be a lot inside of them. >> but the timing. >> right, exactly.

they say in statement to me, they move these things on case by case basis, which is weird. you think there would be some threshold at which they would say it's no longer reasonable for us to have mailbox in this low volume area. instead, they a admitting we move them on case by case basis but saying take our word for it. this is routine. nothing to do with vote by mail. they came out earlier in weekend and said they would scale back and would suspend that collection. that said, we have seen a handful of states where this got reported it's boxes being taken out. a few of them, ohio, pennsylvania, oregon, montana.

sending me picture of an intersection with a mailbox in arizona or california and driving by themselves and sending me a photo and the mailbox is gone. this is lot more widespread even if it is routine than what we know so far. >> thank you so much, both of you for your time. new reporting from nbc news today. president trump telling aides he would like to hold an in-person meeting with russian president vladmir putin before the november election. according to four people familiar with the discussions, the goal of a summit will be for the two leaders the announce progress toward a new nuclear arms control agreement. perhaps signing some kind of blue print on the way forward. administration officials see this as a way for president

trump to position himself both as presidential and as a deal maker. the news of a poossible meeting comes on the heels of the first legal development from the review of special counsel robert mueller's russian probe. according to court documents, a former fbi lawyer plans to plead guilty to falsifying a claim to continue surveillance of carter page, a former trump campaign advicer and key figure in mueller's investigation. attorney general bill barr has signalled this is the beginning of what could come out of this review led by u.s. attorney john durh durham. >> we need to get the story of what happened in 2016 and '17, now out. that will be done. there will be developments, significant developments before the election. >> joining me now, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, law professor and msnbc kribcontrib. what does this first step tell you about the focus of it and

what more do you think we could expect to see given barr said there would be more developments? >> you know, on the one hand this is very common. early in an investigation you'll see someone prosecuted. the presumption is they will be cooperating and helping prosecutors look into other activity. at the same time, this is very unfamiliar and very disturbing to see an attorney general out front, promising results in what can only be perceived as a political investigation particularly where the president has also promised results and said the attorney general can be the hero if he does the right thing here. this is not a normal case. it's not proceeding in an appropriate way. we're awfully close to that 60-day deadline that doj observes as the cut offline where political prosecution shouldn't proceed but this attorney general looks like he's going ahead full steam. >> let's listen to what the

president said now that you mention he could be considered one of the graets of all time. let's listen to that comment. >> bill barr has chance to be the graeeatest of all time, butf he wants to be politically correct, he'll be just another guy. he knows all the answers. it goes right to obama and it goes right to biden. >> what do you make of that appeal on fox news and also do you think this would be treated or viewed differently if it were any other president? >> you know, it absolutely would be. this is conduct that's unacceptable from a president. the justice department is not a political tool. the president doesn't get to prosecute people he thinks are his enemies and cut slacks to his friends. that's what we have seen trump do and shockingly get away with. the only reason a president can even approach this sort of conduct is when he has a co

complicit attorney general who is playing his rules. >> good to see you today. still ahead, call for action. lawmakers want the oversight economy to come back from summer break to hold a urgent hearing addressing the other over ahaul of the postal service. service.

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welcome back, everybody. we are looking at video of protesters outside the home of postmaster general louis dejoy. this is in greensboro, north carolina. donzs of proterss there protesting his actions at the helm of the postal service. many believe his actions are

undermining the integrity of the system and its ability to handle universal mail in voting. similar protests are happening outside his home in washington, d.c. nancy pelosi and other top democratic leaders are calling for an you aurgent hearing into cay yous. she wants the postmaster general to testify before the oversight committee as well as the board of governors of the postal service regarding dangerous changes at the postal service that are jeopardizing the integrity of the election. joining me now, illinois congressman. i want to apologize for butcher your last name in the tease. i meant no disrespect by that, sir. what do you want to know right now from louis dejoy at this juncture? >> well, i think the president deserves points for candor. the other day he said he's not

funding the usps in an effort to hobble mail in voting. we're going to be asking the postmaster general a number of questions about the communications from the white house to the usps. i'm going to be asking him questions about his own conflicts of interest. he has a 30 to $60 million stake in one of the usps competitor companies at the same time he appears to be sab teenaotaging usps operations. that is wrong. >> that was also known at the time he was appointed to that position. what would you like to know about his actions since and how they kuld impacould impact the election? >> some of those conflicts were known at the time. we have learned about new information such as the fact he's purchased options in amazon at prices lower than their current market price. at the same time that he can effect amazon's share price through usps operations.

what we want know about the election in particular is how do we make sure that the ballots and other pieces of mail that are associated with voting by mail are actually done in an fast fashion as they have been done in past elections. even the 2018 election. now we're learning that voting by mail may not be done at first class rates or first class pace which is what is typically been done in the past. in fact, now, unfortunately, first class mail is being left at the docks on the floors of post offices and not being delivered like they normally would be. >> i just want to let our viewers and our listeners know that nbc news through peter alexander says the postal service says they will not move any of those blue boxes for the next 90 days. the white house chief of staff

says if democrats agree to stand alone bill they might be open to a stand alone bill on post office funding. is that a compromise you're willing to make? >> i'm not sure that there would be support for, for instance, not allowing for an increase in unemployment insurance or not allowing for increases in funding for schools that are reopening. i think that holdi ining those hostage would not be acceptable. i should say one other thing. the president may be trying to do harm to mail in voting but he's also doing substantial harm to millions of seniors who are relying on mail for social security checks as well as people relying on mail for their medications. the collateral damage is enormous and we're getting calls, texts and e-mails from our constituents across the board who are completely opposed to what's happening right now to the postal service from the

administration. >> i want to ask you about the choice of kamala harris. the first indian-american on a presidential ticket. tell me about the significance of that. >> not only is she tough and ready to be the president which is the number one criteria for selecting the vice president but, yes, her story, unique story embodies the american dream and makes women and african-americans excited but also indian-americans like myself. she brings some curry powder and spice to the ticket. she's going to excite voters and i'm convinced it's a winning ticket and we're going to be soon calling her vice president kamala harris. >> thank you so much for your time today, sir. coming up, an arizona school district forced to postpone the start of school after a teachers revolt. one spot in the country where teachers are raising questions about what they are being asked

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teachers a amplifying concerns as school opening near. educators coordinating a mass sick out in defiance of the district's reopening plans. ultimately they forced the cancellation of its intended reopening tomorrow due to insufficient staffing levels. elsewhere, minimal guidance and absence of appropriate ppe has forced teachers to get creative inside the classroom like those in dublin, texas, state battling 550,000 cases of coronavirus. >> all kids will learn happening tuesday through friday. >> because of the rigor of

classroom and everything these kids will the remotely is the same thing our kids will do in in-person. >> reporter: teachers will be tasked with crafting lessons for both as well as keeping classrooms safe and sanitized. >> we have to spread tables out. we have taken chairs out. we have gotten these folders to help with sneeze guards and things like that. we have come with up lanyards so they don't lose their face mask if they are at lunch or recess. we have been coming up with different games for the kids to play at recess but still be social distanced but still have some fun. >> reporter: every teachers in the dublin isd will be back on campus with 20 coming in new. >> i'm looking so forward to them being here. we miss our kids. our kids are our family. >> reporter: teachers seem confident in the district's back to school plan and pam turner does too. she will send two high school kids to class.

she opted to keep her first grand granddaughter at home. >> first graders, i think that's a little more difficult for them to follow those strict rules. high school, i think, can do it and i really don't know if this will work or not. this is what we're going to try. >> in indiana the situation is really no less complicated. there are cases of coronavirus are quickly approaching 81,000. still school districts like those in avon, indiana are struggling to deliver a coherent coronavirus message to teachers and families. >> reporter: avon federation of teachers says the district is leaving many of them in the dark. >> we really not been given any information from the health department or from the board about why the decisions are being made. >> reporter: there are four confirmed cases in the district. two students and two staff members. many more kwuquarantined.

so far the district hasn't released any official numbers. >> how many first graders have to be quarantined before it's too many? in my opinion it's one. >> reporter: as students learn from home this week, the district is working on a hybrid learning approach before resuming full time august 31st. an option some say could work. >> it helps us maintain our relationships with our students. there's not a lot of learning going on without the relationships. >> those reports from our affiliates in indiana and kxas in texas. an entire off campus o sorority is under quarantine at oklahoma state university after 23 members tested positive. only one member has shown symptoms. 20,000 students are expected to return to campus tomorrow. vassar college in new york is taking some unusual steps to make sure returning students stay safe from the virus.

>> reporter: at least one college in new york isn't allowing students to lever campus. no part-time jobs, visiting family or eating in town this e semest semester. students have to stay in the bubble. >> i really want us to be taking as much precaution as we can. as long as we do tharks i'm really happy to be there. i'm really comfortable. i want to trust the administration. >> going back to campus and i'm super excited to be going back. >> vassar has maken the right decision to get back. most students did want to come back. >> reporter: st students are normally required to live in campus housing. the difference this year, they can't leave campus unless there's an emergency. >> i think a lot of people are

making a much bigger fuss or think it's a much bigger deal to be living in a bubble. it's already a bubble. vassar is already a bubble. it's not going to be much different, i don't think. >> reporter: vassar evolving reopening plan will include face mask, physical distance and protocol for testing. now the idea of a bubble is not unique to vassar. >> new sports fans across the country have been waiting for a restart of the nba season in a bubble. >> reporter: 22 nba teams are ee eating, living and playing basketball. players are not permitted to lever the disney campus and it seems to be working. no single player or member of the bubble has tested positive since the season began. i spoke with the lead author of this study dr. david paul. he's a professor at the yale

school of public health. >> there's a best practice for reopening colleges in the fall. >> we found there is a safe way for students to return to college in fall and the key element of that plan is screening for the virus at high frequency like every two or three days. >> reporter: vassar's president weighed in on whether or not she believed there's a one size fits all college reopening plan. >> the viral threat is complicated. the right strategy depends on what's the location. what's the culture. what kind of capacity do they have? it's very important for us not to get focused on a single strategy like testing. >> from what you found in your

study would isolating students like the current plan at vassar help. >> our recommendation is plan of very high frequency screening coupled with those social distancing and isolating capabilities and i'm a little concerned that the plan currently does depend on everything that could possibly go wrong, could go right. engineers build bridges to withstand several times the weight that they expect to travel over those bridges. a bridge that can only withstand the weight you expect is called a house of cards. >> reporter: in this case, an out break within the bubble could bring the house of cards down but students are hoping things go smoothly. >> i'm quite an optimist so i'm hoping for the best. >> our thanks to nbc savannah selle sellers. if the's war on post office may end up being decided in the courtroom. how the administration is gearing up for legal battles.

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the year 2000 saw one of the m messiest elections. as the fight ramps up, the 2000 florida recount could be child's play compared to this november. the new york times reporting the legal challenges over the election could last well past november 3rd as lawyers from both campaigns are preparing for what the election results could hold. specifically, president trump's campaign and republicans who already quote involved in 40 lawsuits in 17 states. some in response to democratic lawsuits as part of an expansive $20 million litigation campaign against policies making it easier to vote on the grounds that they could lead to fraud. the postal service confirming that the removal of mailboxes will be postponed for 90-days due to customer concerns. joining me now, voting rights

and elections director at the bren n brennan center for justice. 40 laults, 17 states. what more do you think we could see as the election nears? >> we are in the throes of a heated battle over the right to vote in this country. right now the most recent front is with the post office. we have been seeing attacks in states to try to make it harder for people to vote. voters will not know basic details like when, where and how they aresupposed to be voting.

>> there's a lot more that should and could be done. not only talking about the post office but we should be talking about funding to all of the board of elections in states and cities throughout the country. i think nancy pelosi is in a position to offer up the democracy 2000 act. take out the funding from the care point two act and comes up with a bill that rierps board of elections as well as the post office because let me tell you as a republican, we are really good at doing absentee ballots and we are also very good at challenging them. we have been doing it for decades. this is very significant. it can't be understated

politically how donald trump and those who are quiet or support him are basically supporting voter suppression. >> what can be done to not only cut down on the time but ensure that voters trust the results? >> there's a lot that can be done. i think to answer your first question is that americans and journalists need to be prepared for the fact we may not know who won the election on election night. some of it will be because of confusion and human error but some of it could be for pro-voter reasons. for example, if we want to let voters have until the last possible moment to return a mail bot lol, that will be on election day. that means it can't be counted because it will still have some time in transit.

they will need some time. if we want to be a i believe to make sure there are elections we want to be able to conduct audits and that will take time. there's a lot of disruption. the big worry is to make sure that people do not exploit those things to try and undermine the integrity of our elections. we need to be doing everything we can. americans have all pliel strikes want free fair and accessible elections. that's going to present a lot of problems. >> susan, my last question to

you. could this backfire for trump? 43% of senior citizens are supporting him. could this backfire given many of them might not want to vote in person. >> absolutely. these are rural voters. not only is it going to hurt with the voting process for many seniors that vote absentee but now he's attacking the post office and a lot of seniors and a lot of people in rural areas rely heavily on the post office for not just regular mail but their subscriptions, their medicines. it's really the heart of a lot of rural communities. this actually has another side effect that is going to hurt donald trump. >> thank you both. still ahead, a ground breaking v.p. pick. the same month women celebrate a major milestone. a look at the long road to equality with focus on how far we still have to go. equality with focus on how far we still have to go. (vo) elevate your senses.

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since the 19th amendment was ratified giving women the right to vote. the anniversary comes a week after another historic moment. senator kamala harris chosen to be joe biden's running mate she's the first one of color to be on major ticket. the ground breaking moment is highlighting for women of color the battle for equality is not over. >> your next vice president of the united states, kamala harris. >> reporter: another ground breaking moment in our nation's history. >> i do so mindful of the heroic and ambitious women before me. >> reporter: the fourth time a woman is on the ticket of major political party but the first for a woman of color. the breakthrough in equality first demanded by the sufferagettes. >> looking at a woman since

women gained the right to vote. >> there's only been very few constitutional amendments that ever passed and it was the largest enfranchisement of americans in nation's history. >> virginia case is ceo of the league of women voter. >> that amendment give all women an equal opportunity to access and to exercise the right to vote. >> unfortunately, it didn't. >> that's why it's my job to make sure, to ensure that all the women of color do not nad in our history books. >> reporter: she's the great great granddaughter of ida b. wells. >> i'll march with my peers or not at all. >> reporter: even acknowledge

has acknowledged her refusal to march at the back of a parade. >> we can't afford the lose their support. >> who is we. women or just white women? >> it was bigger than race. it was bigger thagender. >> what do you say she would say today? >> take the vote by many means necessary. ban together, organize, put your difrss aside and take the vote. >> an activist herself, she's carrying on her ancestor spirit. keenly aware back women had to continue their fight until the 1965 voting rights act. that fight is still not over. >> in certain communities, voter suppression is real. it just looks different in 2020 than it did 50, 100 years ago. >> unfortunately, our ability to

have participated in this democracy has involved struggle every step of the way. >> reporter: representative karen bass knows the roadblocks to progress. she knows black women show up than higher voting blocks. >> how powerful are black women? >> extremely powerful. sometimes when you try to tell us not to vote or to go to the back of the bus, people get mad. when people get mad, people act. >> women have powered every movement throughout history. now we get to lead it in front of congress, in front of the white house and our vote is what changes aull of that. >> an important look back. that is it for me this hour. thank you for making time for us. until we meet again, the news continues after the break with richard lui on msnbc. richard lui on msnbc frustrated that clothes

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hello, every one. i'm richard lui. the fiery debate over the postal service. democrats ramping up their calls for an investigation. setting an emergency hearing a i mid fears over delayed ballots the trump administration pushing their false narrative of voter fraud. we are less than 24 hours away from the start of the democratic national convention. joe biden and kamala harris said to officially accept the party's nomination and a new nbc news

wall street journal poll just released. we have first numbers on what voters think about the biden/harris ticket. college football is getting sacked by the coronavirus pandemic. twof the biggest conferences now cancelled over health concerns. we'll talk about the future of the season. we'll start this hour with the post office. demonstrators gathering outside the postmasters general home to protest controversial changes at the u.s. postal service. changes they believer have slowed the delivery of mail and can impact mail in voting. house democrats announcing today they will hold an emergency hearing for top postal officials on august 24th surrounding concerns to handle increased mail in voting. with me is josh letterman. josh, let's start with this. how is the white house reacting so sffar? >> reporter: the white house

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