good evening, i'm alicia menendez. the outcry over the president's m meddling in the u.s. postal service reached a fever pitch. across the country local news headlines sounding the alarm over mail delays. essential sorting machines removed. blue mailboxes literally hauled away on flatbed trucks. democratic candidate joe biden thinks he knows what is the president is up to. >> you think he -- come on, guys. >> funding for the postal service. mail-in voting. what do you think about that? >> pure trump. >> okay, guys, let's go, let's go. come on. >> he doesn't want an election. this weekend protests moved from d.c. to the north carolina home of postmaster general louis dejoy with people voicing their displeasure over his changes to the mail. the united states postal service is among the most revered public institutions in america but etch the national park service, 90% of americans hold a favorable view f tof the uspn according t

polls. people don't like it when you mess with their mail or their elections. >> this is a deliberate effort to defund and destroy the u.s. postal service so that people cannot engage in mail nf ball-i ballots. that's not bernie sanders talking. that's what donald trump is telling the american people. >> in fact, the president said something to that effect just last night. >> the problem with the mail-in voting, number one, you're never going to know when the election's oenks ver, so, look >> mr. president -- >> -- we're going to have an election that takes place november 3rd. usually at the end of the evening, they say donald trump has won the election, donald trump is your new president. whatever they say, you know what, you're not going to know this possibly if you really did it right, for months or for years. >> trump's strategy isn't just to mess with the actual mechanics of collecting and processing mail. he's injecting enough chaos and

doubt into the voting process that there's now the equality sinister possibility that amid all this anxiety around vote-by-mail, anxiety created by the president, some americans will get so frustrated that they'll begin to think their vote doesn't count. in an attempt to address this, democrats say they'll hold an emergency meeting to deal with the unfolding crisis at the postal service next month. and they want to hear from dejoy, himself. first, the democratic convention begins tomorrow with speeches from senator bernie sanders, former first lady michelle obama, and others. the party has four nights to convince loyalists that the stakes are too high to opt out, the point of elections is to vote in people who will fight back, that both their voice and their vote matter. and that they will do everything necessary to make sure our democracy works moving forward. we'll talk about the convention in just a moment but for more on the increasingly urgent situation at the usps, i'd like

to welcome congressman dan kildee. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. i want you to take a listen to what white house chief of staff mark meadows said earlier today. >> do you realize how inaccurate the voter rolls are, with just people moving around, let alone the people that die off, but sending ballots out just based on a voter roll, registration, any time you move, you'll change your driver's license, but -- >> right, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud, though. there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. >> there's no evidence that there's not, either. that's the definition of fraud. >> congressman, there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. what do you make of that pushback? >> well, i'm really disappointed in mark meadows. mark knows better than this. there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud. the people in my home state, for example, in 2018 voted by two-thirds by referendum saying that they want to be able to

have this option to have no reason of absentee voting. it is a right that we ought to protect and it's amazing to me to see the president and his chief of staff who seem to have more of a plan, a more focused plan, to try to prevent people from casting their ballot than having a plan to prevent people from getti inting coronavirus. if they had the same kind of focus that they have in trying to keep people from voting, to try to keep people from getting sick, this country would be in a lot better shape. >> congressman, there were a lot of people who wanted to see the house reconvene. you will do just that on august 24th. at this point, with so few days left until election day, what is still within congress' power to do? >> well, you know, i think we can do what we can. for example, i think we can take up congresswoman maloney's legislation that would essentially say to the u.s. postal service, do not make these massive cost-cutting changes during a pandemic.

it's not just about voting. this is critical access to med d medicine, critical access for information businesses need. this is really important. fundamentals of a civil society, the postal service. >> congressman, do you think there's room here for bipartisan support? >> there ought to be. 90% of the american people support the postal service. we all depend upon it. it never should be a partisan issue. the fact that whether or not people ought to have access to the ballot during a pandemic, in the safest way possible, should never be a partisan question. >> i want to turn to another threat to our elections. that of foreign interference. listen to what national security adviser robert o'brien said this morning on "meet the press." >> well, i think the dni report was really terrific and what the dni report did, which has not come out before, is it detailed the influence and the efforts of

china and of iran to denigrate president trump and to make sure he's not re-elected. >> that's not exactly what the dni report said, as you know. it said while china and iran might prefer that trump be defeated that it did not describe any specific interference by either country designed to hurt trump or to help biden. what do you think is going on here? >> i think they're trying to change the subject. we know putin has a favorite and that favorite is donald trump. he made every effort he could to get donald trump elected in 2016 and it appears he'll do it again. and this is the last thing that this administration wants to talk about. so they'll change the subject. >> congressman, the core tension when you sound the alarm over the possibility that it will be increasingly difficult for people to vote is you both need to identify that reality, make people awa waware of it and the time know the more you stress

that, the more likelihood there is of the possibility that that vote gets depressed. for americans who are watching right now who want to know that they'll be able to participate in our democracy, what can you tell them that congress is doing to meet them halfway? >> well, i think first of all, we need to encourage people to take matters into their own hands and do what they have to do to make sure their voice is heard and that their vote is cast. but congress can do its part. we passed legislation 2 1/2 months ago to make sure that local governments had the tools they need to strengthen the right of people to vote, that the u.s. postal service was not hampered. look, we've done our part. we're not just talking about it in the house of representatives. we legislate. it seems as though mitch mcconnell, president trump, are more interested in trying to win this election by keeping people from voting and may be putting the fright in people that their vote won't count. with you can't let that happen. there are things people can do. they can get involved. they can get engaged. most of all, they can act now to make sure that they have a plan

that their vote is counted and not let donald trump or mitch mcconnell take that precious right away from them. >> congressman, there's definitely the possibility that we will not know on election night who the winner is. that as these ballots are being processed it will be different and that part of what needs to happen here is a reset of expectations that people know we might be in for a bit of a longer haul. how do you reset those expectations sho s so that peopw they might not be getting the results they usually expect on election night? >> i think what we is to remind people is what we want is a fair and accurate election. we want a count that is based on the will of the american people and if we can wait four years to have a presidential election, every four years, we can wait if it takes a few days to make sure the ballots are properly counted. this is not a game show.

this is not the lottery where the winner has to be announced and given a big check. this is the presidency of the united states. it's our democratic institutions. we ought to have the patience and the will to get it right. it's my hope, though, that the outcome will be so overwhelming and the message to donald trump will be so enormous that it won't be any sort of a nail biter. i don't think we can take that for granted. i think we have to make sure we get it right, not fast. >> congressman kildee, thank you for your time. with election officials and now the president warning that widespread mail-in voting could delay the results of the election for a week or more, attention turns to how to fix this. one piece of the puzzle is to process ballots before election night as a means it speed up the process. a solution some states are already looking into. joining me now, amber mcrae nold mcreynolds, ceo of national vote-at-home institute, helping

states to push for early voting and processing. amber, give us a sense of what this looks like in real time. >> absolutely. it's great to be here, alicia, to talk about this important issue. just as your previous guests mentioned, i mean, the postal service is essential. democracy is essential. our election officials are essential. and what our election officials need now more than anything is to make sure that they have the tools to succeed. so that voters can succeed. and the reality is in some states, some of those states include michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, new york, maryland, those states do not allow the advanced processing of absentee ballots prior to election day. that delays the process on election day and, therefore, the results and, you know, the fact is we've never had a certified outcome on election night. in fact, western voters are often still voting after some states get called by the time they're done voting. hawaii and alaska have four or

five hours usually left after some of the east coast states are done. so the fact is we've never had a certified result on election night. military ballots come in. all of that. it's essential to get this right. and make sure it's accurate and makevoter's voice is heard across the country. >> where have we seen this type of advanced processing work and what are the lessons from the states that already do it? >> many states have for a long period of time, in fact, florida just expanded their pre-canvassing period because of the election officials requesting more time. a lot of the western states, a lot of the midwestern states, and frankly, some east coast states have also allowed pre-canvassing or pre-processing prior to election day. and that just means that you don't need as many people or equipment to do it on one day, if you have three or four weeks to do it. so there's a ton of best

practices. we know what works. we've done this in various states for a long period of time. in a lot of ways it actually enhances security, enhances accountability and also improves transparency in the process because we can do that work ahead of election day. and not be so overwhelmed on the day of the election when all of the in-person voting sites are also open. >> well, to that point, actually allows you to audit things like signatures such that someone might actually be able to know that their ballot was not eligible in advance of election day. right? >> absolutely. and in some states like where i ran elections in colorado and denver, we created the first ever ballot tracking system way back in 2009 and by pre-processing we were able to notify voters in advance that their signature had been accepted, that their ballot was going into the counting room and they had that visibility and accountability in advance of election day so it actually helps everyone involved. voters, to election officials, to campaigns and candidates,

some of those phone calls can stop coming in to your cell phone if you already turned your ballot in. there's a ton of good practices around this that actually improve the process for all. >> amber, what then -- what needs to happen in terms of staffing to actually have this be possible in advance of the election? >> well, this is something that election officials have been pushing across the country. bipartisan election officials in the state of michigan as well as pennsylvania and wisconsin have been begging their legislatures for more time. this is not a new issue. they've been asking for more time for more than a year now in those three states. an they need it. it's not partisan. it's absolutely an operational issue. and we need to ensure election officials have this extra time so that they can do the essential work that they're required and mandated to do and do it in a good way for the voters of their states and within their jurisdictions and then it also enables them to use

some of that staff resources they would have to use all on one day for processing ballots for in-person voting and to support that. so it's an operational efficiency. it's an operational issue. and it's certainly not a partisan issue and clerks on both sides of the aisle agree on this. >> amber, thank you for your time. this week joe biden and kamala harris will make history at the democratic national convention. that's not the only history we're celebrating. a little bit later, a major milestone for women's rights. plus a key voting bloc that didn't swing to biden in the primaries. we'll talk about how the democratic ticket plans to get young latinos to the polls. here's your iced coffee! ♪ america runs on dunkin'

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time to make their case to the american people. perhaps why kamala harris is getting a head start on her messaging warning voters, especially voters of clorolor, president is up to his dirty tricks again. >> they know when things change, we change. we get the civil rite rights a. the fair housing act. let's remember why they don't want us to vote. st >> i'd like to welcome vice correspondent and msnbc contributor and zerlina maxwell, msnbc contributor and author of "the end of white politics: how to heal our liberal zerlina, you have house democrats preparing to go back to work to begin having conversations about usps and i wonder when we look toward these conventions how much of the messaging is going to deal with the president's attack on the u.s. postal service and on voting, itself. >> i think that should be a central component to the

messaging in the upcoming convention because essentially, this is not a persuasion election. i don't think that the democrats really can persuade voters one way or the other here. i think most people's minds are made up. we're in quarantine. so now their job is to simply facilitate access to the ballot. to ensure that people are able to either participate through mail-in voting or in-person voting. whatever they choose. and the democrats need to invest heavily in turning people out. that needs to be the focus. and kamala harris is correct about one thing. if the right to vote and access to the ballot wasn't so important, republicans and donald trump right now would not be trying to strip that right away by going after the post office and by going after voters' access to that right and so democrats need to focus on turnout. there's really no persuading to be done this week.

>> you have been through this before. you and zerlina both. generally, these conventions have one big message. every speaker has a throughline. what is the takeaway that party loyalists need to have thursday once everyone has given their remarks? >> loyalists, just the entire country. i think for me the important message is for them to stress that they're not just the anti-trump party. the last four years we've been resisting, reacting, we've been in defense mode. a lot of the different activist groups have been fighting old fights but we've lost a sense of what the collective story of the democratic party is so i think this is the perfect opportunity to when kamala harris says we are for the people, for them to explain what that means, right? what it means beyond donald trump. think there's another important message which is this idea that kamala harris isn't just buzz. it's not just symbolic that she's there. right? they have to stress this goes

beyond presentation and can transform into actual change, this is more than headlines and conversations we're having. that's very important for a lot of people of color to understand from the democratic party this can transform into power. >> if your argument is it has to be more than that and has to focus on policies, what then are the policies? what are the points that you hit to really drive that point home? >> i mean, beyond the policies i think a lot of people want to see that kamala harris is not just the only black woman in the white house, she has the ability to bring other black folks and other latino folks into the white house, herself. i think, again, like, kamala harris can push the democratic party from simply saying we want citizenship for dreamers and actually we're enacting that and enforcing that, right? i think it goes into showing the numbers will start appearing in the white house, itself. right? the decisionmakers at the table won't just be two black people. it will be ten black people, will be ten latinos. be ten native americans. that's where the start -- where the change starts.

>> zerlina, trump had the opportunity to dispel the racist lie, racist birther lie lobbed against senator harris yesterday with reporters. he did not. here's harris today. >> let's be very candid and straightforward. they're going to engage in lies, engage in deception, engage in an attempt to distract from the real issues that are impacting the american people. and i expect that they will engage in dirty tactics and this is going to be a knockdown drag-out. >> zerlina, i have two questions for you. one is, what are the lessons learned about how to deal with this specific line of attack? then i also want to ask you about another line of attack that you dealt with on the clinton campaign which was this use of the word, "nasty," to describe women, so when you see each of these attacks and couple them, what have we learned over the last few years about what actually works and the eye push back? >> you have to call it out for

what it is. the birther lie is a racist lie. i think by describing it as birtherism, we essentially obscure what it really is, which is just straight-up old -- plain old racism and when it comes to the attacks on kamala harris about being a nasty woman, we know when that term is used. it's used for women who don't stay in their place. it's used for women who outspoken and stand up for themselves and other people. it's used for women who are ambitious like kamala harris. so i think that the word, "nasty," let's just use that as a good term from now on. that's the way to respond to that attack. i'll embrace it. >> according to the latest nbc news and "wall street journal" poll biden leads trump with latino voter support 57%-31%. now with the introduction of senator harris, when you talk about reaching this important electorate, how do you maximize

both her story and her record to really make a connection with latino voters? >> yeah, i mean, i think it goes beyond her record. i think people know that she has fought for dreamers, she's fought for asylum seekers, really called au eed out stephe miller. we've seen that. what she presents is completely unprecedented. she's literally changed the immigration story that this country knows. it's a completely untold story, whereas the media for decades, right, we have obsessed with the story of our parents. right, how they came here, how they fought for our rights. and how they assimilated. we've never really focused on what the children of immigrants have done. now, that story has never really been done. what kamala harris is showing us is the children of immigrants can reach the white house. that's a completely, completely new different immigration story and that i'm assuming, donald trump is truly understanding what it means, that's driving him crazy, absolutely crazy, to know that a black woman who is the descendant of immigrants can potentially be sitting where he is and that's a new immigration

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the beginning of the school year has been turned upside down by the pandemic with many school districts now choosing to hold classes online. latino public school students already hit hard by the technology gap are facing new struggles in the virtual learning environment. nbc special collaboration with telemundo, morgan radford and nicole suarez explore challenges faced by millions of students studying english as a second language. 14-year-old roberto gomez loves to learn. do you like school? ? mucho, si. >> reporter: you really like school a lot. his family moved from mexico to san antonio, texas less than two years ago and he's been trying

to learn english ever since. >> difficult to find ways to practice. >> reporter: he was a star student but says his classes got harder when they went virtual last semester. why are those virtual classes harder? >> because i don't have direct contact with the teachers. >> reporter: roberto is one of 5 million public school students learning english as a second language. a challenge that can be especially hard for many latino students since more than 40% of latino families don't have a computer. and so what are you usually doing your work on? >> i do it in my phone. >> reporter: so you're doing your homework on your phone. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: wow. roberto's family of five shares one laptop. even when he can access his assignments, he's on his own. >> do you speak english? >> no. >> reporter: roberto's mom says he's been losing some of the english he's already learned since the pandemic. [ speaking spanish ]

>> translator: i was helping them with as much as i could with the activities. but it really isn't sufficient. >> reporter: it's a challenge roberto's teacher is also up against. >> our school systems aren't really set up to support migrant families to begin with. and now with remote learning, that's just carrying over into that. >> reporter: for families of students with special needs, those challenges can become even more difficult. how do you help those students who need that social in-person interaction to thrive? that's what our telemundo colleague, nicole suarez, went to find out. >> that's right, morgan. about 700,000 special needs students here in the u.s. are also english language learners, leaving many immigrant parents to provide speech, occupational, and behavioral therapy at home. 6-year-old twins rosia and emma do everything together. tell me how much your love your sister. >> like this. ♪ >> reporter: they love dressing

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>> reporter: do you ever sit back and, i don't know, break down? let the emotions get to you? >> a lot of times, yes. a lot of times. butti but, u.you have to be a mom. that's what moms do. be there for your children. >> reporter: no matter what their needs. for nbc news, nicole suarez, telemundo. it's a major milestone in our nation's story of equal rights. up next, listening to women who are often written out of history. join msnbc for special coverage of this week's democratic national convention. rachel maddow, joy reid, nicolle wallace, and brian williams, provide the insight and analysis you need to make sense of this unprecedented event. special coverage starts tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. to make. the largest 5g network... award-winning customer satisfaction... or insanely great value.

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we can't wait to get you back so we've added temp checks, face coverings, social distancing and extra sanitizing to get the good times going again. it's time to roll out the red carpet and kick open the universal gates. we're finally back... and can't wait until you are too. we have breaking news to report out of capitol hill. house speaker nancy pelosi has told her colleagues to expect to return to washington later this week to vote on legislation preventing the postal service from implementing any reforms until 2021. house members are calling on postmaster general dejoy to answer questions by friday about mail processing and delivery delays. this tuesday marks 100 years since the 19th amendment was ratified. giving women the right to vote. there is, of course, a big asterisk next to that. it would be years before many women of color were truly

included in that milestone. and this month "teen vogue" is highlighting that truth by celebrating ten leaders and activist, all women of color, on their august color. with me, the executive editor of "teen vogue." and a writer, activist, and director of communications at miss foundation. and charity, an alaskan native student activist. both were featured on this month's "teen vogue" cover. what made your team decide to make this the focus of this month's cover? >> it's so great to be here, first of all, thanks so much for having us today, and we, you know, we knew that this was going to be a big celebration and especially leading up to the election. there was an opportunity to not just celebrate this big milestone but also to remind us that, yon, voting rights didn't happen overnight. it was a long hard fought, over many decades and almost every 20 years after the big 100 year that's coming up next week,

there was another group of women that kind of gained access to vote. >> it is very easy the way we talk about elections to see it as an ending point rather than as a starting point and yet as we watch the protests around this country, what is the lesson we are learning about sustained civic action? >> well, i think that we all have to remember that voting is just one lever that we can pull and that happens every few years. we need to always be pulling on all the different levers and i think when we're talking about electoral politics it's important to remember that all of those folks who are protesting and police brutality, protesting against white supremacy, are really protesting to make this country better. and so we have to be also honoring and dignifying that fight as well, all through our fight for liberation. >> charity, i believe you are

the only gen zer among us. i will say as a senior millennial, on behalf of rakell, one of the youngest mill len en, there was a belief our generation would change something enough that you'd be inheriting a very different country and planet. i think we've seen some of the lichlati limitations of that belief. what is the thing we all need to understand about your generation, a generation that is coming to power in the midst of this election? >> that's a really great question. i'm really happy to be here. i think what people have to understand is that the youth of this generation is understanding that we have to do more than vote. voting is the bare minimum that we could do when it comes to civic engagement. we have to put more faith in our community. we have to vote locally. we have to support mutual aid funds and so, you know, working with "teen vogue," that's been great. one of the aren't why, like, i

was with them is i wanted to reiterate this fact that voting especially in the presidential election can't address 400 years of historical trauma that black and indigenous people have been through so it's youth realizing this and realizing that we have to do more than just vote in the polls. we have to work in our community. we have to allocate our disposable income to these mutual aid funds and i'm really glad that "teen vogue" amplified other voices. >> you have said, i wholeheartedly agree that public shaming is not an effective form of civic engagement. how, then, someone who's watching, they have a young person in their life who they really want to be engaged, more specifically really want them to consider voting in this election, how do you then meet that young person where they are? >> great question and something we're thinking about every day. one of the things that i think we do wrong when we talk to young people about voting is we repeatedly tell them that they

have to vote. they have to vote. when they are protesting, when they're trust rfrustrated. within they' when they're demanning action on climate change. we continuously say, oh, just vote, just vote, just vote. i want to elevate that voting is one tool in your whole toolbox. right? voting is one thing you can do to, you know, further some of the goals you're working toward. it's about inviting young people in and showing them how one vote can be connected to some of these broader very progressive outcomes they're invested in and learned at "teen vogue" this generation is deeply invested in the issues that impact their lives and now have a deep distrust for a lot of, you know, broader political parties and political experiences and so it really is on us as, you know, public leaders and teachers and as organizers and activists to invite them to the table, not yell at them to finish their food. >> what are the conversations that we still need to be having

around equality, inclusion, and voting? >> well, i definitely think this week as we reflect on the ratification of the 19th amount that we have to have a real conversation on our history and so when we're talking about this fight within the feminist movement or women's suffrage in this country, we can't erase it. there's a lot of white supremacy within that fight. there were a lot of women of color who were pushed out of that fight and not represented. and so we have to reckon with that history. i think it's also about understanding that we have so many ways of embodying leadership in this time and so whether you are involved in the electoral process, or you are doing that community advocacy that we so desperately need, we need to be encouraging people to do what they can and really work with the folks around them. and that's going to happen and be necessary regardless of who

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this week at the democratic national convention joe biden and camekamala harris will make their appeal to voters. much emphasis will be focused on stirrin stirring up enthusiasm, they'll be making the case to those democratic vote who are didn't vote for either of them in the primary. what do they need to do to convince those voters to back their ticket? joining me now, the president of solidarity strategies. former bernie 2020 senior adviser. and the author of the book, "tio bernie: inside the story of how bernie sanders brought latinos

into the political revolution" which is available august 19th. chuck, your book baby is almost in the world. congratulations. i want to point your attention to this poll from cbs and ugov on voters' interest on who they want to hear speak at the dnc. 63% said they want to hear from alexandria ocasio-cortez. 92% want to hear from barack obama. and just 36% want to hear from former ohio governor republican john kasich. what do you make of the fact that aoc was only given 60 seconds of airtime? >> well, it's disappointing. if you read my book, my book comes out on wednesday, you will learn she had a huge impact on our race. most people in most times, endorsements don't matter, but if you take the endorsements like we did with aoc and put her in digital ads, tv commercials, stumping for you and being your surrogate, she has massive appeal and get this, alicialicie had bigger appeal in iowa with young white voters than she did

with latinos. both of those demographics in iowa were 20 points above average of everyone else. don't get me wrong. they were both very popular. st i wrote about this in the book in detailing with young white voters, guess what, the democrats aren't doing good with young white voters, either. she overperforms. it was an opportunity we had to use this amazing appeal of this woman of color who we see reflected in ourselves as young women and young brown and black men as an opportunity of what we can accomplish that we won't get back again unless they put her out on the campaign trail. >> there is the messenger and then there is the message. what do young latinos have to hear coming from any number of speakers on that debate stage that is going to persuade them to be very, very excited about this ticket? >> what are you going to do for me? i'm hearing it in focus groups. i'm hearing it in polling over and over. kamala harris is a great first step. if i was in that campaign and i was advising just like we did with bernie sanders i would talk about the daughter of an

immigrant. not forgetting that immigrant story when i'm in the white house. and that i'm going to fight for you. this is the terminology we use, again, the "tio bernie" book, how we made relatability with bernie sanders with the younger, more diverse electorate. we needed them to know that bernie sanders was going to fight for them so you introduce him, you create commonality then say what are you going to do for me? and that's the real key here. >> the focus groups are wild because we very often talk about voters in broad strokes then when you actually get into these focus groups and listen to an individual's concern, you realize how much of this is about actual lived experience. . as you are doing these focus groups, what has stood out to you most, what has surprised you most? >> you for a long time. 30 years. there isn't much i haven't seen or messed up, to be honest you. i'm going to tell you, identify

never seen the visceral hatred i've seen with an electorate about donald trump. it's not enough. people in focus groups are saying, look, we know he's not with our community, we know he doesn't stand with us. stop telling us what he's done, tell me what you're going of clour color under the age of 30. how they're going to pay for college, thinking about if there's going to be social security for them, thinking about what you're going to do for them. most, as you said in the intro, they didn't vote for kamala, didn't vote for joe biden. they're open to that conversation if joe biden and kamala harris will go to them where they are and have this conversation. that means on their cell phones. this means digitally. this means in spanglish. a little english, a little spanish. that's what they want to hear. a common control to ma they're t trying to accomplish. >> chuck, i want to read an excerpt from your book, "tio bernie." you write, "there's a whole generation of young latinos who have come of age, graduated college and are raising families. they lived through the pandemic and were worried about their mothers or their jobs and now have lived with this racial

strife and police brutality epidemic. it really brings to light what the revolution was always about." tell me more about that, as we creep closer to election day. >> you know, i was so inspired by these people of color, these young people, on the campaign trail, and me and my girlfriend talk about this all the time, ebony, about the righteous anger we saw in the streets that lifted up these voices. it was the same with the campaign. it was the same when we traveled around the country. young people are angry. they want to act. they want you to give them a reason why they wanted to act. that's why i wrote this book. i wanted to open-source what we had done with the latino vote so no one could ever again say that latinos don't show up or they didn't know how to do it. i want to make sure my responsibility as the old brown dude in the room to make sure you know exactly how to do it and we will walk side by side with these young people all along the way. >> chuck, i remember standing in iowa -- in nevada during one of

the caucuses and watching it all go down and seeing how prepared so many of your supporters were which really underlines that so much of this comes down to the process of voting. how do you convince people, seeing the attacks against the postal service, seeing the attacks against voting, that their vote will still matter? >> layered communication. when we were in nevada, what you saw, all those people that knew about bernie sanders, as i talk to them on the average of 22 times. can't show up in black or latino neighborhoods at the last minute and ask them to request a ballot. we need to be asking them to request a ballot now, also tell them exactly what we're going to do for them right now. the anxiety out there that people feel is real. latinos and people of color are dying at a higher rate. latinos and people of qulcolor' children are getting this disease at a higher rate. there's a true anxiety out there that we have to get to. >> chuck, thank you for your time. that is all the time i have this weekend. i'm alicia menendez.

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