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it's official, joe biden formally secures the democratic presidential nomination as his campaign goes from his basement to 57 u.s. states and territories in a convention roll call like no other. also, a new bipartisan senate report concludes that the 2016 trump campaign eagerly embraced russia's help in the election. we'll discuss other major takeaways from that. and the head of the u.s. postal service says he will suspend changes that democrats are meant to sabotage the mail-in vote. the question now is whether the
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damage has already been done. good wednesday morning, everybody. it is august 19th. and i'm yasmin vossoughian. completing night two of the democratic national convention. joe biden now officially the democratic nominee for president. he secured the votes of party delegates in a first of its kind virtual roll call last night that spanned all 50 states and seven u.s. territories. we heard from a diverse group of delegates and those representing them. teachers, small business owners and elected officials, each representing their home state, casting their votes by video. a lot of them sharing brief but poignant messages. let's watch a couple of those moments. >> i grew up in poverty as immigrants but we've been able to make a decent living we're extremely lucky. and now we have three family
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members who tested positive for covid. and it doesn't feel safe. >> when joe biden was young, his father came to his house in scranton, sat down on joe's bed and told him he lost his job. it's a moment that stayed with joe his entire life. right now, all across america, working families are experiencing that same fear and uncertainty. but joe biden has a plan to help them. >> i've been doing this for a long time so let me just be plain. black people, especially black women are the back bone of this party and if we don't show up, democrats don't get elected. >> here in utah, we've had mail-in voting for years. if you register for vote, it's easy for everybody to participate. >> three years ago, my beloved city charlottesville, virginia, was attacked by white supremacists and a woman was
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killed. turning his back on a community that just wanted peace that was the day that joe biden decided to join this battle for the soul of america. >> joe biden's home state of delaware passed during the roll call choosing instead to go last so the state's delegate could cast the decisive vote to secure the nomination. biden thanked the delegates and said see you, thursday, the day he will officially accept the nomination. dr. jill biden also returning to her former delaware classroom to deliver an impassioned speech at the democratic convention while touching on the dynamic changes the coronavirus pandemic has had on teachers, on students and schools as well. dr. biden also focused on the profound sense of loss in her husband's life that has propelled him to keep fighting for this country's future. >> so many classrooms are quiet
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right now. the playgrounds are still. but if you listen closely, you can hear the sparks of change in the air. we haven't given up. we just need leadership worthy of our nation. worthy of you. honest leadership to bring us back together, to recover from this pandemic and prepare for whatever else is next. how do you make a broken family whole? the same way you make a nation whole. with love and understanding, and with small acts of kindness, with bravery, with unwavering faith. you show up for each other in big ways and small ones. again and again. it's what so many of you are doing right now, for your loved ones, for complete strangers.
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for your communities. we're seeing that our differences are precious. and our similarities, infinite. we have shown that the heart of this nation still beats with kindness and courage. that's the soul of america joe biden is fighting for now. >> all right. joining me now nbc news political reporter shaquille brewster. shaq, good morning to you. great to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> run through the highlights this morning. it was quite a nice from that roll call. the diverse sense you got from all of the states and the territories in the united states. just incredible to see that. to colin powell, to john kerry, and of course, dr. jill biden. give us the highlights from last night. and what we can expect from this evening. >> well, i think we just saw that main highlight from last night, that was the speech from
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dr. jill biden in that classroom. this is not just any high school classroom, you kind of alluded to it earlier, but this is her former classroom where she taught english nearly three decades in that brandywine high school. you heard from dr. biden talk about not only the anxiety that many patients are facing and many teachers right now in the classrooms because of this pandemic, but she also connected that to the personal story, the personal story of joe biden who lost his wife in a car accident and lost his car in a car accident, just several years before she met him. so you saw her really trying to tell joe biden's personal story through her own story. you get the sense of this is a reintroduction of the bidens to the american public with this large national audience. and there was also that official business that we saw last night. it seemed to be a crowd favorite based on the twitter reaction ez and the comments that you saw last night. that roll call vote that took us
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through all 57 states and territories where you got to see different landmarks from each state. and you got to hear from different delegations as they made that formal nomination. today, we can now say that vice president biden, former vice president biden is the presidential nominee for the president of the united states. we no longer have to say presumptive nominee. he is the nominee. it is official and he'll be accepting in this speech in this building behind me. you got the personal element but the formal element of vice president biden being nominated officially. >> shaq brewster, stay close. i'll talk to you in just a little bit. of course, we're touching on a little bit later, former president barack obama who will be addressing the nation. joining me now, jackie, good to see you this morning. thanks for joining us.
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i want to read a part of your tweet that i thought was interesting, you said best speech, of the dnc thus far have come from two women who are not politicians. so i'm assuming you're talking be former first lady michelle obama monday night. and former second lady jill biden last night. what does that tell you about where things are at the moment? and the emphasis this campaign is putting on women. >> yeah. i do think a telling sign of where the country's heart and feelings are right now after 100 -- over 160,000 americans are dead because of the coronavirus pandemic. and a lot of people, quite frankly, have lost faith in american democracy and institutions as it's really eroding before our very eyes with things with the right to vote. and mail-in voting being challenged on a daily basis.
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and i think the biden campaign understands that putting people like michelle obama and dr. jill biden out there to speak to the humanity of joe biden and to speak to people's troubles and pains. and even as michelle obama admitted previously through the depression that people are going through in this really hard time that connects people, draws them in is soothing. and also speaks to joe biden's humanity. you had people like jacqueline brady, "the new york times" security guard who was the h of "the new york times" endorsement when she blurted out she loved joe biden in the elevator. she was another example, of a nonpolitician, a black woman, to take the center stage last night to be the first person to nominate joe biden and speak to who he is as a person. there's obviously disagreement on the party on certain policies, the progressive flank
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is not the happiest about the democratic platform not explicitly endorsing medicare for all. but at the end of the day what you hear from activists is that biden care, is listening, is trying, created the bernie/biden task force to draw people in. and what differentiates him especially now in contrast to donald trump is that he's an empathetic person who creates lasting relationships with the people around him. and those relationships matter. >> especially when you think about the story of his wife. and i think you make a really good point there, jackie, in that both of those women were really very personal in their addresses. and we talk about the medium that this convention is in, right. it's not in this huge stadium with thousands of folks cheering each other on. instead, it's very personal, it's one-on-one, addressing the nation in the lens of the camera.
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in a way that's lending itself to what the nation is going through, which is interesting to see, "washington post" jackie alemany, stay close. the u.s. postal service backtracks. the postmaster general now claims the agency will deliver election mail on time. this is happening as the president floats the possibility of an election redo. those stories, and then a check of your weather, when we come back. it's totally not the same without you. we miss your "let's do this" look. the sound of your laugh cry screams. and how you make every day here the best day ever. we can't wait to get you back so we've added temp checks, face coverings, social distancing and extra sanitizing to get the good times going again. we're finally back, and can't wait until you are too. buy now and get two days free at the parks. restrictions apply. gillette proglide and proglide gel.
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absentee is great, but universal is going to be a disaster the likes of which our country has never seen. it will end up being a rigged election or they'll never come out with an outcome. they'll have to do it again. and nobody wants that. and i don't want that. >> all right. so that was the president yesterday talking about something this nation has never had to endure. completely unprecedented, a
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redo, as he puts it of the november election. we're going to address that with danny cevallos because i want do get into the legality behind that, if that's even possible. meanwhile, postmaster general louis dejoy announced that he will suspend the cost custi cutting reform until after the election that led to the timeliness of election ballot handling, due to mounting pressure by lawmakers and protests. the decision to cancel reductions and suspend the removal of voting machines and reauthorize overtime pay has come as 27 states announce the intent to sue the administration. dejoy announced the rehearsals as he prepares to testify in front of the homeland security committee on friday and the house oversight committee on monday. lawmakers fear the damage to the
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usps has already been done and the effects of the caught-cutting measures cannot be undone quickly. in a statement, senator minority leader chuck schumer said he told him by phone saying i want a specific document outlining exactly what changes he's rescinding, and which reforms rema remain. and all confirmation that all election mail will continue to be treated as first class priority. also, the trump campaign is suing three iowa counties over the ballot request tomorrows of lind johnson and being mailed to voters already filled in. that information includes name, birth date and a mail-in date. both are to review the info, sign a form and return it in early october. the trump campaign is arguing that the prefilled forms violate
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a director from the secretary of state. that the forms must be mailed blank for uniformity statewide. but the counties say they're within their authority to present absentee voting during this period. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. we have a bunch of stuff to run through with you, danny, so let's run through it. >> yeah. >> first and foremost, this idea that the president seems trying to builds toward, which is in fact, he thinks this election will be rigged because of mail-in voting. there is no evidence to suggest that anything nefarious is happening across the board, so important to put that out there. if in fact he believes it is, there could be a redo of the election, completely unprecedented. is this type of thing even allowed, a redo of federal election? who dictates that?
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>> federal law dictates that a the election be held on a specified tuesday in november. it probably prohibits doing the election over. the election is over when the electors and the electoral college say it's over. so, with no constitutional guidance, the likelihood of a do-over for the election if the president declares it rigged is just not very likely. it wasn't intended by the constitution. there are provisions in cases, for example, not all of the ballots are in, in the first election. but just starting all over because it's declared rigged by the president doesn't appear in the constitution, not likely something the framer has in mind. >> all right. thanks for clearing that up. let's move on to this next one. so, i talked about the counties here. basically how the trump campaign is suing these three iowa counties. are these counties, danny,
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required to follow the directive of the secretary of state? and does the second have the power to invalid the forms and ballots sent from the prefilled forms? when you have the defense from these counties essentially saying they are within their authority to promote absentee voting during this pandemic for the health and welfare of its citizens. >> iowa requires, a new i wall law requires the iowa secretary of state to give approval from a legislative council, which he did. and then issue an order saying we shall distribute blank forms. and then a couple of counties took it upon themselves to preppr pre-pop. populate the information. and the issue is going to be by prepopulating these forms, did they violate the advantage of the order. and the secretary of state probably has the authority to
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invalidate them because they don't comply with the order that he issued with the approval of the legislative council that they be blank. so, the argument here can't be by the county, oh, we distributed blank forms, because they're not. instead, the argument they have to make, yeah, we took it upon ourselves, and yes these forms are different, but they will make it easier to vote. they will make it easier to get ballots in and out. that's really going to be their argument, constitutionally, they violated the order, but they did it in the spirit of voting. >> danny, quickly, while i have you as well with regards to the changes by the post office, dejoy basically saying he's rescinding the changes at the post office. what happens to the lawsuits brought against the post office at this time? >> first, dejoy didn't reverse all of these policy changes, he reversed most of them. to the degree they still exist and still threaten voting to the plaintiffs, they can proceed.
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otherwise, look for the defense here to argue that the case is now muted. that the controversy is gone. therefore, there's no longer any lawsuit. but as long as there's some past damage that needs to be remedied. and these policies still exist to some degree that threaten the injury to the plaintiffs, then they likely can proceed with their claims. but if there is no more controversy at all, normally the rule is, there's no more lawsuits. >> danny cevallos happy to see your daughter is playing piano these days. i believe that's what she's doing in that photo. >> we're working on it. still ahead, everybody, michelle obama's speech seems to have gotten under the president's skin. we're going to play his reaction. also, more powerful moments from night two of the convention, as powerful voices voice and back joe biden. we're back in a moment.
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yesterday hit back at first ladder michelle obama after he delivered a stinging rebuke on monday night. reminding the first lady he would not be in the white house, quote, if it weren't by the job done by your husband barack obama. trump continues with commemorating the 100th anniversary, ironically of the 19th amendment. >> in michelle obama's speech last night where she said you're in over your head. >> she is over her heard. frankly, she should have made the speech live. she taped it. she had the wrong deaths. she didn't even mention the vice presidential candidate in the speech. she gets these phony reviews. i thought it was a very divisive speech. extremely divisive. >> i'm quite sure she did talk
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about both candidates in that speech. nonetheless, let's switch gears here and get a first look at your forecast with meteorologist jen necessary janessa webb. good morning, janessa. good to see you. >> good morning, yasmin, good to see you the storm systems heating up, three of them escalated in the last 12 hours. let's bring you down, we have invest ner97-l, outside of the ward islands, moving at 95 miles per hour. it's going to be slow to come but we are seeing more organization. also we have invest 98-l that is going to be really increasing within the next 24 hours. the development on that first system potentially goes through jamaica. and then we're going to have to watch as it potentially goes into the gulf of mexico.
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9 98-l, 90% of development. i think when i saw you tomorrow, this system will be a named storm, potentially going to be 30 miles west of the windward islands. we're getting a 90% chance of development. we're watching this, too, as well, could go into the gulf. not one, but three storms, yasmin. >> janessa webb. thank you so much. good seeing you this morning. just want to make a quick correction there. michelle obama did not mention kamala harris but she did tape that before kamala harris came on the ticket. still ahead, much more about the bipartisan interference and including the finding that the president's former campaign chair paul manafort worked with a russian intelligence officer who may have been involved in hacking and leaking those dnc emails. we're back in a moment.
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♪ welcome back, everybody. good morning. it is wednesday, august neither. and i'm yasmin vossoughian. let's keep going here. so the senate intelligence committee yesterday released a nearly 1,000-page report on the 2016 trump campaign ties to russia. the bipartisan report goes further than special counsel bob mueller's report to detail the extent that the trump campaign sought help from a foreign foreign for the 2016 election. approved by the senate majority
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report found that the president had hacked emails. last month, the president roger stone's sentence. and separate but related allegations, refers to the conduct of trump's conduct with women during past visits to moscow. but the allegations were not confirmed and a report stressed that it could not establish that russia had collected compromising material on the president. the senate intel committee affirmed mueller's investigation on the subject of wikileaks, saying in part this, staff on the trump campaign sought advance notice about wikileaks releases, promoted strategies in anticipation of following their relief and encouraged further leaks. so the intelligence committee
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report provided a scathing detail of the trump transition team where, quote, russian officials, intelligence services and others acting on the kremlin's behalf were capable of exploiting the transition short comings for russia's advantage. specifically, the report detailed the links between then-trump campaign chair paul manafort. a and constantkonstantin kilimnik. and the russian intelligence officer, quote, almost certainly helped arrange some of the first public messaging that ukraine had interfered in the united states election. the report added that the committee had identify, quote, no reliable evidence that the ukrainian government interfered with the 2016 election. and also evidence that, manafort, may have been
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connected to the operation to steal and leak democratic emails which if proven in court would have been constitutioned as collusion. there's that word. the report concluded that after three years of an investigation, there was no collusion. the white house reacted to the release of the senate intel's report saying in part this. after a special counsel, numerous other committee investigations and four prior reports from this committee, the senate intel report affirms what we have known for years. there was absolutely no collusion between the trump camp and russia. now, a source telling nbc news that former fbi director john brennan is expected to be interviewed on friday by john durham, an investigator investigating the origins the trump/russia investigation. let's turn to 2019 to the democratic national convention
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where former secretary of state colin powell lent his voice supporting joe biden. powell commended biden for his strong moral values in support of american troops even in the face of adversaries, watch this. >> values i learned growing up in the south bronx and searching in uniforms were the same values that joe biden's parents instilled in him in scranton, pennsylvania. i support joe biden for the presidency of the united states, because those values still define him. and we need to restore those values to the white house. our country needs a commander in chief who takes care of our troops in the same way he would his own family. for joe biden that doesn't mean teaching. it comes from the experience he shares with millions of military families sending his beloved son off to war and praying to god he would come home safe. joe biden will be a president we will all be proud to salute. with joe biden in the white house we will never doubt that
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he will stand with our friends and stand up to our adversaries, never the other way around. >> joining me once again, author of the w of "washington post" news post power up, jackie alemany. colin powell is somebody who connected to misleading the american public when it comes to starting the iraq war. what implication does a voice like colin powell have on this 2020 election and other republican voices that we have heard from and will be hearing from over this convention time? >> yeah, well, colin powell, as you just noted is one of a handful of gop boomers and se a centenarians that the biden campaign has brought out. john kasich, susan molinari.
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and meg whitman and colin powell. what you see the biden campaign making a conservative evidence is to rein in the republicans and what republicans call a permission slip to vote for joe biden, to vote against their party tours choose country over partisan or ideological attachments. that being said, you know, there was a lot of drama within the party, especially on the progressive side, about some of these republican speakers. you know, questions about how you could have someone who is a proponent of the iraq war take such a prime time slot and get more speaking time than somebody like alexandria ocasio-cortez, the future of the democratic party. >> yeah. i want to turn back now to the senate bipartisan report on
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interference in the 2016 election. so, one of the main take a whats fr takeaways from the whole thing, in this report, it is stated that the trump campaign, it seems, eagerly embraced russia's help in the 2016 election. what stood out to you, in this report? >> well, i think the most important thing that lawmakers and americans need to keep in mind right now is that this report states that russian interference and disqualification campaigns is happening as we speak. that's a message that we've heard time and time again from robert mueller, james comey and a litany of former intel officers and members of the community who have appeared before the public to warn of russian interference. that being said, the other underlying factor here is that trump had contacts.
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the 1,000 pages supports that. saying yesterday and maintaining that russian interference was a hoax and gop senators coming out and saying that was no collusion, there was in fact extensive communication. and some of -- one of paul manafort's business partners, in fact, was labeled an intelligence -- a member of russian intelligence, and a grave intelligence threat. that was president trump's campaign manager. so, you know, at the end of the day, there was technically no collusion found by congress. but the findings of this report are really important to keep in mind, going into 2020. and safe guarding the integrity of the election from the russians as putin tries to, you know, do 2016 all over again. >> all right. "washington post" jackie alemany. great to see you this morning, jackie. still ahead, everybody, the quell how to safely reopen schools. we're going to give you the
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while washing away dirt and oil. so you're ready for the day with a clean shave and a clean face. welcome back. the nation's top infectious disease expert dr. anthony fauci weighed in yesterday on reopening schools. saying that easing in, with virtual classrooms, would be better in part to the country that have a coronavirus infection positivity rate of more than 10%. he said the default position should be to try to reopen schools for the psychological health of children. but added that a unilateral approach to reopening schools could not be taken. fauci said this, to make a statement on one side versus the other and take the whole as a whole won't work. we're so hitt hitter 0 genous t
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with the infection. also, notre dame has suspended eight days after 100 students tested positive for coronavirus. the 12,000 students came one day after can the university at chapel hill made a similar announce after reporting five covid cases in four clusters. and michigan state will conduct online only structure. remote learning for 40,000 undergraduates is scheduled to begin on september 2nd. all right. switching gears, let's get a check once again on our weather with nbc meteorologist janessa webb. hi again, janessa. >> hey, yasmin. you know, the heat continues to really build across the pacific northwest and southwest. it's pretty unbearable. we have over 1 million people
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that are currently without power in los angeles due to the excessive heat. right now, we are following the hottest summer on record to dat dat dat dat date. across areas of the southeast and texas. and it's going toheighten the fire danger that we're seeing, look at this 101 in boise from the north and to the rockies. an that's going to allow the fire danger to spread across the central part of the u.s. from denver all the way to albuquerque. i wish i could say this back, but we're still talking about yuma, 111, for tomorrow afternoon. slightly cooler, upper 80s to lower 90s for flagstaff. so, even phoenix really going to be staying hot throughout the weekend that i know everyone is talking about. it's kind of a dry heat in that area, but when you're talking about 113 to potentially 126 for
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death valley this afternoon, it's just unbearable. we are seeing a few sparks of moisture but that is headed to the east so we're just hoping this bubble of warm air starts moving east. yasmin. >> thank you, janessa. still ahead, everybodies we', we're going to a live look at cnbc for what's driving another record day on wall street. we're back in a moment. businesses are starting to bounce back.
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welcome back, everybody. time now for business. wall street saw a second day of all-time highs yesterday. this time on the s&p 500 as it reached its first record since february. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum is joining us live from london on this. another day, another rally on wall street, unbelievable to see. how are the markets looking this morning? >> that's right. the s&p 500 finally did it. we talked about this yesterday. it had been flirting with this milestone for over a week now.
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and the s&p 500 did crack that level 3,389 yesterday. we got some strong housing market data yesterday which helped to boost sentiment. amazon shares led tech stocks higher, so the tech-heavy index, also hit a fresh record high. today we are looking forward to the federal reserve's latest meeting minutes. investors are going to be closely watching those for clues about how the central bank is thinking about the economic outlook and their, in turn, thinking about interest rates. another story from yesterday, we got fresh developments around tiktok. president trump has expressed his support for oracle to buy tiktok. last week, president trump said, of course, the u.s. government -- that the u.s. government would ban tiktok, unless the app can be sold to an american organization within 90 days. oracle and microsoft have emerged as the two front-runners. and oracle co-founder, as we discussed yesterday, has expressed his support for president trump in the past.
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and then yesterday, when president trump was asked about the u.s. enterprise software giant, he called it a great company and reiterated that they've get until september 15th to make a deal happen. back to you. >> let's talk about stimulus payments here for a moment. a lot of americans suffering because of the stop in stimulus payments, because of the reduction in unemployment insurance, as we've been seeing. now walmart's saying they have evidence consumer spending dropping when government stimulus payments ran out. what more do you have on this? >> reporter: that's right. we heard from walmart yesterday. they came out with a very strong set of numbers and a big bump in those q-2 sales that they reported came from customers rushing to stores to spend their stimulus checks. they did see a 97% jump in e-commerce sales, but also big numbers when it comes to in-store shopping. they noted, though, that consumer spending has dropped since the stimulus checks have run out. so walmart is watching very closely developments in washington to see if lawmakers
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can approve another round of stimulus. and given the uncertainty around the stimulus and the broader virus, of course, they failed to give guidance for the full year. so still a number of open questions, despite the strong results they saw over the second quarter. yasmin? >> so, this lends itself to the argument as to the fact that government needs to spend more money in order to stimulate the economy so people keep spending. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum live from london. thank you very much. great to see you. up next, a look at axios' 1 big thing. and coming up on "morning joe," with her husband now the official nominee for president, dr. jill biden will be our guest. also, we'll speak to a pair of former obama administration officials, former security adviser susan rice and former acting u.s. attorney general sally yates are joining the conversation. "morning joe" is moments away. i conversation "morning joe" is momen atsway. ♪
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axios, mike allen. good morning to you. great to see you this morning. give us the "1 big thing." >> good morning, the halfway point of the democratic convention. yeah, the axios "1 big thing" this morning is how jill biden changes the classroom conversation. so, last night, we saw dr. biden speaking at brandywine high school in wilmington, delaware, where she used to teach. you could see there an effort by the campaign to scramble president trump's message that we want to open, democrats want to shut down. what we saw there is dr. biden, a teacher, saying, i want to open more than anyone, but i want to do so safely. and she spoke to every parent when she said, "the quiet here is heavy." you can hear, she's in this empty classroom, walking down that empty hall, and she says, you can hear the anxiety. so, this is a way for democrats to connect with families who do
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want to go back, but every parent's worried about their kid. one more sort of between-the-lines of dr. biden's message -- we saw those clips of how she talked about her healing the biden family as they emerged from tragedy, as she joined the vice president and his young children. we can see in that an effort by the bidens to translate that to joe biden healing the nation. >> and i just want to remind folks, dr. jill biden will be joining joe, mika, and willie in the show a little bit later on. let's talk kamala harris here for a moment, mike, while i have you. so, axios is reporting the addition of kamala harris to the ticket. it has given joe biden the biggest surge of online enthusiasm that he has seen in his entire campaign. how could this affect -- and will it affect -- voter turnout? >> well, this is fascinating, exclusive data for axios. and every democrat that i've talked to, i always ask them, i
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put the specific effect of senator harris has been, and all democrats say it's just put a spring in their step, people on the ground, in milwaukee, people elsewhere. and here's a way to quantify it. really interesting. you look at this news clip data about online engagement, so that that's likes, shares comments, content about biden. in the week after harris was announced, it was by far his biggest online week ever. and here's a fun fact that my colleagues, sarah fisher and neil rothschild discovered, that vice president biden's tweet announcing senator harris as his pick was his second most engaged tweet ever, the most engaged -- >> wow. >> -- was when vice president biden, a little puckish, said, i can't believe i believe to say this, but please don't drink bleach.
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>> there you go! some good information there. axios also reporting a new poll suggesting that a lot of students are deferring their freshman year of college, which is interesting, because we are seeing a lot of universities open and then shut down just seven days later, as i just reported, because of cluster cases picking up in some of those places. how is remote learning playing into all this? >> so, this surprised me. and i've been following this very closely. i have four nieces and nephews who are in college. they mostly have not been able to go back. an interesting trend, by the way, is kids going to the town, even though it's all remote, even though they can't go to college. but what we see in this data from college reaction, which has the best database of college students -- college reaction polled this in conjunction with axios and they found that one in five college students just isn't going to enroll this fall. they're not going to play games with being in town and maybe
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trying to do virtual learning. they're not paying for online classes. instead, we're seeing a lot of gap years. harvard reported that 20% of their freshmen are going to defer. and that seems to be the number that sort of holds off. the other, in addition to just taking a gap year, deferring for a year, we have a lot of students who are staying home to work. so, college changing? they're just not showing. >> tough reality to accept as a freshman to go online. mike allen, thank you, as always. >> thanks for your coverage. >> i'll be reading axios in a little bit. sign up for the newsletter. that does it for me this morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. do you agree that seemed like a campaign speech and less of a eulogy? >> i thought it was a terrible speech. it was an angry speech. it showed his anger there that people don't
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