republican democratic convention. and the indictment on bannon and behind team trump. the grim prediction of the death toll from covid-19. we await a briefing from nancy pelosi because the house is back in session today. lawmakers returning from recess to vote on a bill for $25 billion injection to the post office and ensure the postmaster service doesn't impose any restrictions before the end of the year. debates get underway. >> it is crucial we neat today, not because we are because we had to get here as fast as we could. to be able to acknowledge the postal service is a crucial lifeline for americans. >> madam speaker, nancy pelosi is dragging the entire house

back here on taxpayer dollars for an unnecessarily political vote. >> in the face of extraordinary public pressure and action, the postmaster general promised to halt further changes until election day. vi to tell you, i wouldn't trust this administration to tell me the correct time. >> we don't need to be spending the money right now. it is a silly bill. >> my message is simple, protect the postal service and our republic. >> there you have it. we have a team of reporters across the nation following this story. first to nbc's leanne caldwell joining us from capitol hill. get us up to speed on what has been happening so far today. as you noted in your opening, this has become most republicans are saying where democrats will go is unnecessary and the democrats conspiracy

theory is what they are now saying. democrats are saying this is only necessary because of the president's attacks. not only on the postal service but on mail-in voting. here is what massachusetts democratic governor said today. >> did anybody ever think they would see a president of the united states who would publicly say that he doesn't want every vote to count. maybe if our friends would join us and send a message to the white house that they have to respond, they have to do the right thing. it is the implicit, the indifference that i just can't understand given what is going on in this country right now. >> mepntioning, we'll be watchig if any republicans do side with the democrats on this legislation. we've heard from one so far. representative from upstate new york.

he tweeted he is going to support the democrats bill today. he's in a tough reelection in a swing district coming up in november that is having a big impact of how he votes today. this is still going to be mostly partisan. the president and the white house have issued a veto threat on the legislation, so this is mostly symbolic and a big day for the democrats to implore that the message needs to be done directly and needs to be prioritized and handled safely. >> even if it falls along party lines with a splin krinkling of republicans crossing over, it will certainly pass in the house. now to decision 2020, 73 days and preparations are under way ahead of the republican national convention. the trump campaign saying the

public should expect a message of hope drawing a sharp contrast to the dnc's style and vision for rnc? >> any incumbent would normally use the trappings of the presidency to their advantage especially when running for reelection. that's not usual. what is unusual is that he'll be delivering his renomination acceptance speech from the grounds of the white house, from the south lawn. preparations are under way. they've unveiled the newly restored rose garden. that project was a main event for the first lady is funded by private donations, we are told. the white house hasn't released a list of how those funds were solicited or used but that is government taxpayer money to

fund this project and that she'll be appearing in capacity to support her husband's election. a lot of questions are being raised about this event next week. the elections will start next monday in charlotte north carolina which is the start of the original convention. it is possible president trump or vice president mike pence will travel there to thank the smaller delegate to officially renominate them. on tuesday, we'll hear from the first lady. on wednesday, the vice president will speak from baltimore and thursday, that main event on the south lawn. the washington, d.c. area will be host to all of these events. the caragy melon area nearby.

take a listen to what laura trump told our colle week. >> i think what you are going to see is depiction of america. the democrats, the entire convention was about bashing donald trump. it was a dark, depressing vision of america that they presented. we are going to have the opposite. ours will be hopeful and inspirational. >> that may be the goal there from republicans. harder to square that with the president's own rhetoric which we saw previewed this week where he railed against democrats and their convention. he raised people's fears of what would happen if joe biden war elected. the only way he would lose in november is if it was rigged. hard to make those two things

square. >> i'd like my director to put back up that graphic. it is essentially members of the trump family, the vice president and his wife. do we know of anybody else expected to speak? >> yes. absolutely. those are what the republican national convention is committing to be the main marquee speakers. we have also learned there will be many republican speakers. former un ambassador will be speaking. the couple from st. louis you may remember were wearing firearms at black lives matters protesters. they'll be speaking. alice marie johnson who the president commuted her sentence

a year and a half and she'll be speaking about criminal justice reform. you will have a mix. it is really a show case of what the administration would do in the first time. for the president, his family will be featured quite heavily. the president himself will appear each night in some capacity. we can expect a lot from the trump show here frmt. >> the former republican president here at this point, he's not appearing, correct? >> that's right. he's not appearing or cooperating from what we know. >> thank you for that. we'll go to the democrats. biden and harris, their first joint interview dismissing attacks on the president. a good day to you, biden and harris reacting but they are covering a lot of other ground as well. what can you tell us about this?

>> that's correct. they are going to be talking about the coronavirus, their vision for the future, pulling from themes we heard and saw last week one thing to know whoever they chose would be a target of attacks. not only for the president but from the republican base especially when the president started calling her someone who is nasty or mean. she said earlier last week, listen, i am not going to get distracted by his attacks. take a listen to what she told abc and what we expect to be an hour-long interview and how she

is viewing the president's attacks on her. >> i think there is so much about what comes out of donald trump's mouth that is designed to distract the american people from what he is doing every day that is neglect and harm to the american people. >> and incompetence. >> absolutely. absolutely. that he would say something like that. no president has ever said anything like that or used those words. >> with my apologies to mariana, we are going right to the white house now. nancy pelosi taking action on that vote. >> how significant the postal system was and the establishment of our country. since that time, it has been as american as apple pie, baseball,

you name it. they are the most supported. it is a service. postal service. when people say it doesn't pay its own way. it is not a business. it is a service. we always want to subject every federal dollar to what we are getting for it. let us remember that it is a service. no busy can think of would ever be saddled with what we've done to the postal service saying in 2006, a bill passed that said the postal service should pay 75 years of health benefits in 10 years. 75 years of its health benefits in 10 years. that is a responsibility that i don't think most businesses could meet and also come out on

top. so earlier this year, mr. defasio put forth a bill to limit what that is. when they say it doesn't pay. we've done these cuts and those cuts, we are cutting service. not we but the new postmaster general. we have called the members back for legislation that allocates the resources. $25 billion recommended by the postal service, the board of governors of the postal service. they are a board that are bipartisan and 100% appointed by donald trump and they recommended the $25 billion. actually, they recommended more which we will have in other bills. so that's part of this legislation. it is also necessary for us to have this legislation because in

my conversations with the postmaster general, which were most unsatisfactory. he said he had no intention of restoring the post boxes that were removed. no intention of restoring the sorting services and other things essential to keeping the mail on time. when i suggested we have the ballots in the election treated as first class mail, he said he had no intention but if it was in the bill, he would. >> yesterday, he's now saying he will. >> to make sure that that happens because his comments are one thing. his actions will be another. that's why we have this legislation. we'll be talking about it on the floor. our distinguished chair, chair of the committee of jurisdiction will be making her presentation

as soon as the vote is over at 1:00. it is very useful for people to take the pride that it does. letters to santa, messages from the tooth fairy. messages communicating. as a grandmother, there is no substitute that a drawing or a note from your grandchild through the mail. as important as that is to our culture, our health. 1.2 billion subscriptions sent through the mail in 2019. 80, 90% depending on the figures. we are trying to verify them. but 80% sent from the va to our veterans through the mail. when the mail slows down, the medications slow down, the health of our veterans are

affected. that's who we are hearing from the mail slowing down. that's what we have to address today. we'll go overall the provisions of the bill, about stopping the slowing down of mail. this was an intention. the postmaster general is saying, we are not going to do any of this until the election. our legislation is not just about the election. it is about surprise, surprise mr. postmaster. the coronavirus, covid-19, which has a big impact on the election as first and foremost on the health of the american people. this doesn't just about until after the election, if that can be trusted. it is about the health, as we say in the bill, the end of january or the end of coronavirus, which either takes longer. so this is why this sleg slags

is necessary too because even in his statements which are am big uous, they don't go far enough. >> i'm excited about the history of it. in the early 1970s, building on the work of benjamin franklin who oversaw the building of the postal service, they established underground networks, committees of correspondence and the ko constitutional post that enabled them to communicate without the knowledge of the british. the earliest committee formed in 1764 and so on. the first postmaster general was benjamin franklin. the exchanges that followed built solidarity in turbulent

times and bring about the forms and when spoke in that century, he said he would praise the postal service writing that not in the most enlightened rural district in france is there an intellectual movement so rampant or such a scale as in this wilderness. the effectiveness from the start. rooted in american history, part of the communication this established us from going from colonies to a country. there for america's families to communicate, businesses to thrive, medicines to be delivered, now in this case, time of an election at the time of the pandemic, a safe way for

people to vote. it is very important to shine a bright light and show the appreciation for what is done. 97,000 veterans are employed by the postal service. this is a joyous occasion to come together and meet the needs of our people. you can ask any member of congress across the country. democratic or republican if they are hearing from their constituents on this subject and they are. as we go forward then. just to note that tomorrow will be 100 days. today, 99 days since we passed the heroes act. it is very urgent. even nor so than when we passed it for us to have the values. this isn't about the discussion

of just dollars. it is about values and how we honor and value the work of our heroes, health care workers, first responders, our teachers, transportation, sanitation, food workers. all employed by the state and local government. a big obstacle going forward is the attitude of the republicans and not fully going to the table to support that. right now as a grandmother and mom of grandchildren in school and children who teach, we have to make it safe for our children to go to school and that takes

money those are virtual. another dozen or so hybrid. a small number actual. the bulk of the money if they actually open up. >> those school districts in our country and who pays for schools but state and local government. we can't have the firings if occur if we don't fund the state and local government on the outlays on the virus and the loss of revenue. on that even, is the firingings that could occur in the millions. already a million and a half

more people fired. what does that do but hurt our economy. this is one piece. this is an emergency. it has a policy in it that was not in the hero's act. i'm proud of our members for coming back. i'll be meeting with them and talking about the just if justifications and needing so much more. what scientific basis are they saying we need over 50 billion

for child care. we are telling people that they have to go to work. and they can't because they have a child going to school. child care is an answer in some of those cases. we've put the justification for those and we'll put those more intensely as we negotiate the agreement we must have for the american people. any time a natural disaster hits. iowa is suffering so badly in all of this i hope as soon as we can be, our federal government will be there discussing what the congress has been asking for. any questions. [ inaudible question ]

first of all, it seems like the republicans will not be supporting this bill. if it does not go through, are there any negotiations or opportunity for funding you are seeking? . are you able to tell us what is the message to voters who may be concerned and are wondering what they should do? go to the polls or return ballots by mail? >> we will pass the bill and it will be in a bipartisan way today and we'll send it to the senate. publish sentiment is everything. they'll be hearing because this hits home. not receiving your mail on a timely fashion hits home. not receiving prescriptions

especially for veterans hits home in are a way that is harmful to our country. secondly, we are hoping that the need for us to go forward is that we could open the economy more with more testing. we could open schools more if we have point of care testing and treatment. why they will not follow science is beyond me. it was 99 days since we passed our bill. it was how much more people, 4.2 million more people have become infected. 88,000 people have died taking us past 175,000 people.

if we wear a mask, the lives that could be saved going forward. when they said they were going to press the because button, they forgot to tell the virus. we have to. we must absolutely have an agreement going forward that helps state and local government to do their job to educate their children to do so in a way that is safe and again, honors their heroes. past something that is sufficient in terms of crushing the virus. instead, they are crushing affordable care act and preexisting condition.

this is not just about dollars and cents. it is about values and common sense the last point in terms of voting. look, don't pay any attention to what the president is saying. it is all designed to suppress the vote. he's going to have law enforcement. that's in their playbook. we've seen the playbook that they'll have people intimidated to vote by having i.c.e. agents or law enforcement there to instill people as they show up. t it is scarey. ignore that. it is a suppress the vote tactic as is the ability of the postal system to deliver on its responsibility to treat first

class mail and to deliver in a stiemly fashion and not ignore the need for over time and the fact that so many members of the postal service have contracted coronavirus they'll need temporary employees to fill that in. and not ignore. he said blatantly, i have no intention of replacing those mailboxes or the machinery in the sorting machinery. that, by the way, is an oscha issue in the sorting. ignore them. make a plan to vote. so vote early so we have a clear

vote as soon as possible. i hope our victory will be so big, it will be clear. from the stand point of the house, it is my political goal that we'll win so big, we are putting the down payment of two years of winning. you come into my wheel house. i was chair of the party for a long time. had the experience of recognizing how important time is make sure it is there in a timely fashion to print those materials. i've been known to be there with my friends and volunteers next

to a printing machine to make sure people don't come out ahead of us with their mailer. what they are doing in the postal service until they got caught and what the president is saying and his move about putting extra law enforcement people at the polls. why would he do that except to scare people off? why pay attention to that. just honor the vision of our founders that this is a democracy and everybody will have a chance to vote and have their vote counted as cast. another question? i have another question to bring

up. >> chief of staff meadows is at the house today. he tweeted out a message to democrats saying, if you really want to help americans, how about cast relief with small businesses along with postal setting. you said you don't want to break things down and today will be focused on the postal service. what about the members in your party who think maybe a vote of a smaller hero's act with a shorter time frame is perhaps a good idea. >> you listed some things what's his name put forth. he didn't say anything about schools or crushing the virus or anything about people being evi evicted, food insecurity, state and local. that's completely unacceptable.

on the other hand, my colleagues, i welcome their suggestions. we are ready to negotiate at that level. 99 days since the bill. 73 days since the election. we are getting ready for this legislative session that comes and begins in january. we are in sink and his list is very defishent when it comes to our children, child care, food, housing, their education, their health in terms of the virus and just again, state and local does do over 90% of the education. i want to bring up another subject that the president

brought up, which is very scarey. everybody should take note of it. the fda has a responsibility to approve with judging on their safety and efficacy, not a declaration from the white house about speed and politic sizing the fda. this was a very dangerous statement on the part of the president. even for him, it went beyond the pail in terms of how he would jeopardize the health and well being of the american people and accuse the fda of politics when he is the juan who has tried to inject himself in the scientific decisions of the food and drug association. >> one more question and i have to go to the floor? >> how does he compare to

benjamin franklin? what experience does he bring to the job? >> let me ask say, abraham lincoln was also a postmaster. i think harry truman a for the postal service. the postal service has a great identification with leaders in our country. i wouldn't use compare, i would use the word contrast. benjamin franklin understood the value of bringing people together in our country. he did not view it as a business enterprise. he believed in it as a service. postal service. to bring it in and say they are losing money an all of that.

really? how they are making it possible for people to communicate. 98,000 veterans that are employed by the veterans. one sees it as a service of the american people and the other as a service enterprise. doesn't value its purpose. hopefully he will see the light as he sees the legislation. if the republicans and the senate refuse to take it up, thalg have to answer to their own constituents why they don't want their mail delivered in a timely fashion. what is it? neither rain nor sleet nor snow nor dark of night will keep the carrier from his or her

appointed rounds. that doesn't seem to be the purpose of the current leadership of the postal service. thank you all. see you on the floor. >> there we have the speaker of the house. talking about the hr 8015 delivery of america act. protecting the efficacy of the postal service until january or the end of the coronavirus, which ever is later. i'm joined now by somebody who has a personal interest in this. i'll explain why. democrat from new jersey. member of scientific and arm committee. i'll ask you about your experience literally delivering the mail flying missions there in the gulf. when nancy pelosi talked about

constituents, have you heard concerns about their ability to get prescription medicine, to vote, to hear from their grandchildren? >> i've heard a lot of concerns. last weekend alone, i got over 2,000 pieces of correspondence specifically about the post office. i had people sending pictures about the removal of blue mailboxes. i have heard stories of people who normally pay by check getting their credit dinged. veterans who normally get pry skripgss not getting it. >> we know morristown, new jersey was affected by those removals. let's talk about your experience having flown those missions. you were delivering to our men and women in the armed services.

what was the importance of doing what you did as you delivered communication to them? >> i can't tell you how important it was to the men and women serving at sea to receive these packages from home to keep in touch with their loved ones. i remember getting frantic calls saying, when are you going to be doing the next delivery. we'll be on station here. do you have a little more gas to deliver these critical pieces of mail. >> you make a connection between the postal service and democracy. expand on that for the viewers here. >> we know our postal system is so critical as we've heard in delivering pry skripgss. we've had horrible stories of farmers receiving baby chicks in

the mail and receiving dead chicks because they rely on the mail. it is an important piece of our democracy. in new jersey, we had a vote-by-mail primary and we'll have a general election by mail. we need to make sure the free and fair election is handled by the postal clerks. >> they tried to pin down the postmaster general yesterday. >> are you limiting overtime or is that being suspended and people work overtime if necessary to move the mail out ever single day. >> senator, we never eliminated overtime. >> it has been curtailed significantly. >> not by me or my leadership team.

>> will you bring back any of the boxes removed. >> no intention to do that. they are not needed, sir. >> his answers challenged. he has promised that ballots will be given priority. are you satisfied that they'll be able to handle the flood of mail? >> it will be affected. eve seen the mail handle census forms and holiday rush. when you are removing sorting machines and blue post boxes and curtailing overtime, telling trucks to leave without being fully stocked and that men and

women can't deliver to the processing center but then to the local center which takes an extra day. all of these things are slowing down our mail. >> good to see you. it is a busy day for you. thank you for staying through the news conference there. let's get more on decision 2020. democrats wrapped up one for the history books. the first virtual convention. the fire works in dell among the many agenda items was the black lives matter movement. >> there is no vaccine for racism. we have got to do the work for george floyd, for breonna taylor, for the lives of too

many others to name. for our children. >> maybe george floed murdered was a breaking point. however it is happening, america is ready to lay down, quote, the heavy burden of state at last. and then the hard work of rooting out our systemic racism. >> there is a new report in politico today that suggests some activists see all of this as mostly lip service. joining me now to discuss, host of unfiltered. that he is. also editor at large with the 19th and msnbc contributor. we'll go with you first here. do democrats still need to close the gap between symbolism and substance and what do you think it will take to do that?

>> alex, i think you'll see activists continue to push the democratic party. black lives movement has undergone a political movement. that is not exactly parallel to where the party or country is. their ideas have increasingly become part of the main street population. that could bring a swing back to reform. back to the obama/biden administration. that has not been a conversation. that has been a nonstarter where

they've really embraced in the black lives movement. >> do you get the sense that dnc presents adequate reputation from young people. >> you have to understand that you are dealing with a virtual convention that is really only two hours. a conventional convention, you have a lot more time. you can spend more time focusing on who didn't speak, who was not there. the democratic party in 1964. how they pushed the party in mis. they got it in '68. you think about reverend jackson running in 1984 and 19d 88.

the positions when he ran came into the platform. what is required is to be the external force moving on an internal force. i have friends on my show when they introduced the just breath act. you have to be able to take your a activism once they are in power. once they are in power, you'll have no access to get it done. it will go hand in hand. >> there are new reports saying the president was caught on tape saying low turnout among black voters in 2016. will this be a similar problem for biden and harris in

november? >> i know it is something that campaign and the party is concerned about. you saw this on full display. the message to vote early. make sure you have a plan. run up the score so the results are unimpeachable. you heard speaker pelosi echoing that. his election strategy is not about suppressing his anemic support of black voters by getting them to just stay home and not vote. >> you must be laser focused. you must be spending significant amounts of dollars on black

media. reaching people who don't watch msnbc or cnn or read the new york times. work with those grassroots organization, folks on the ground. you are about to have a virtual election. you need to be connecting people with web sites democrats can chase the white women in the suburbs all they want to. democrats cannot win unless they turn out black people. black women and black men. latinos. you can cheap chasing suburban voters but the numbers won't lie. more than 40% of the white vote since 1964. that's where your bread and butter is. spend the money on them and talk the issue. you can see the repeat of 2016. we hear you loud and clear.

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people catastrophically. >> we can do better and deserve so much more. >> if we have any hope of ending this chaos, we have got to vote for joe biden like our lives depend on it. >> with me now national correspondent with politico. i want to get your take on this line of criticism and how it landed with the president. >> both the democrats and republicans are arguing whoever takes over as the next president has the potential of putting this country in danger. part of that is that the american carnage vision that he laid out when he was inaugurated. he used that phrase in an unusual dark address in 2017 is a vision he's trying to argue

once again going to the rnc next week. instead of making the case that things have gotten better and we are moving in the right direction. the reality doesn't give the president many to work with. as well as immense economic challenges. trump, instead of focusing on the way america has changed is having to make this argument that democrats present this dangerous threat to the country. biden is sit waited in a place he can point to this place and say, actually, it's the president's fault. >> it is unusual for an incumbent to argue things are bad. in this case, the president is in a tricky spot. >> you heard the president repeatedly attacking biden as sleepily joe, slow joe. when you look at biden's speech

on thursday night. it was widely praised. fox news described it as enormously effective. do you think this blows a hole in the president's argument? how many of the president's base do you think were tuned in to watching joe biden give that speech? >> i think it is unlikely that anything that happens over the case of the dnc will change the way the base voters will vote. i don't think the base was watching. it would have been quite disappointable for the team to include a speech that didn't include any gaps or flubs. his advisors worry if he speaks off the cuff he'll say something embarrassing. it has been the case for him. the dnc didn't give trump any

help whatsoever in making the case the president has been making? will that keep the president from arguing that he is quote/unquote sleepy joe but gave him no ammunition. >> thank you. shorter than i hoped it would be thanks to nancy pelosi but it was nancy pelosi. so that's okay. more on capitol hill and dejoy says they need to make changes. now next set to testify on monday. joining me now is matthew did you know lap from maine. let's take a look at the last couple of months. multiple cities and states have complained of mail arriving

late. here is what nancy pelosi had to say and the measures the house is trying to put in place because of that. >> this was an intention. the postmaster general is saying we are not going to do any of this. our legislation is not just about the election. it is about surprise, surprise, the coronavirus. covid-19, which has a big impact on the election as well as on first and foremost of the health of the american people. >> these issues, have you experienced any of that in maine? are you concerned the votes could be compromised? >> we are concerned. very concerned. when the coronavirus hit maine, our governor took swift action and has protected main citizens at the bottom tier of the

infection rates. as we sent out ballots to the towns for absent voting, some of them got them late. we assumed the postal service was under the same strain as everybody else. we urged them to get them in early and we didn't have that many issues. including scrapping one sorting machine in maine, we are very concerned. last cycle, we issued 41,000 absent ballots. the first week, we issued 55 absent ballots. we'll have more than 60,000 in the mail before election day. >> didn't get like 20,000 in one day? >> first day. 2,000 the first hour. >> wow. so what you heard from mr. dejoy, were you satisfied from

what you heard on friday? >> some of the folks from the postal service spoke with the state elections committee and made some of the same arguments. frankly, i'm not convinced. they are limiting the effect if voters cannot get their ballots returned on time. this could be a report year for mail voting turn out. the postmaster has a solemn duty to make sure the elections go off without a hinch. to make sure every citizen can vote. i hope congress holds its feet to the fire and takes this charge seriously. >> anything you can do out of your office with what the post service ends up doing. >> we are working with the

office and with a 125state of emergency and making executive orders. we are looking to see if there are any other changes we can make before the runup. the biggest thing we can do is tell voters, don't hang on to that bat lol until the last minute. get it in early. that's the more effective way to get it done. we heard earlier here, he's not focusing so much on the november 3 election day but rather october being election month. do you thinks that wise advice? >> very wise advice. i think every voter who gets a male-in or absent ballot would be well advised to make sure it gets delivered to that county clerk or town clerk in vangs of the deadline. >> thank you for your time snoochlt steve bannon affair,

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good day. welcome to weekends with alex witt. breaking news, the house is back in session voting on a bill $25 billion for the postal service and making sure the postmaster general does not make any further changes to the service before the end of the year. >> the postmaster general is saying we are not going to do any of this until after the election. our legislation is not just about the election.