good day. welcome to weekends with alex witt. breaking news, the house is back in session voting on a bill $25 billion for the postal service and making sure the postmaster general does not make any further changes to the service before the end of the year. >> the postmaster general is saying we are not going to do any of this until after the election. our legislation is not just about the election.

it is about surprise, surprise, mr. postmaster general, the coronavirus, covid-19, which has a big impact on the election and on the health of the american people. also today, democrats and republicans were digging into position as the debate is under way. >> this is a five-alarm fire on democracy. >> post office tells us they have $15 billion on hand and access to $10 billion credit. we don't need to be spending this money right now. it is a silly bill. >> the actions by the postmaster general in recent weeks is a sabotage campaign aimed at manipulating mail service, whatever the intent, it is hurting every day americans. >> we have a team of reporters across this nation.

following this story and others concerning the 2020 election. let's go to nbc leanne caldwell joining us from capitol hill. nancy pelosi taking about 20 or 30 minutes in that conference. >> the house is going to vote later on this issue that has become extremely political as the president continues to undermine mail-in voting and the postal service. we are hearing from a handful of republicans that say they'll side with the democrats. a majority say that this funding is unnecessary and calling this entire bill a conspiracy theory against the postal service. there is also an underlying issue. that is the bigger discussion of covid relief talks. those stalled discussions where both sides met.

mark meadows is on capitol hill today perhaps trolling speaker pelosi. he's holding meetings with both of those parties. it says, if you really want to help americans, how about passing relief for small business along with postal funding. i asked him about mark meadows' tweet. here is what she had to say. >> uliss some things about what's his name put forth. he didn't mention schools, he didn't say anything about krusing the virus or people being evicted or food insecurity. he didn't say anything about state and local. that's completely unacceptable. >> what the dig at the top, she called mark meadows, what's his

name. she is not backing down on the talks. she wants to make sure the messaging today is been postal service, the changes the postmaster general has made. he's going to halt those changes and there is a lot of skepticism on democrats trusting him and a lot of legislation despite the white house saying they will veto it. >> we were having a good laugh at that. >> in the meantime, promising what it calls an inspirational republican convention. a look ahead on all of this. potentially learning some things from the dnc.

what is the theme and how the convention will be different this week. we are told the president paid very close attention to what they are doing. he watched a lot of content. took notes. making calls saying, i didn't like this. let's do this differently. how about this? that was interesting. reacting and planning for the week coming. we are learning a lot of the discussion would be prefocused. we had this technical challenge. republicans will be taking a little more of a risk. they want to have live programming that is something the president discussed. that is one major difference. you'll be seeing a lot of these

back drops. because the president is running and is able to do that. they are talking about a lot of different things each day. one day will be land of here owes. land of promise opportunity and greatness. in terms of what they want to do. the president's daughter in-law lara trump was on the today show. take a listen. >> we want people at the end of our four days to be reminded that america continues to be the greatest, most exceptional nation in the world. the president will be part of our convention every night. >> the president will be speaking or appearing in some

form ever single night. they'll also try to show case what they call the perils of socialism and people related to the cuban community. and the covington student who graduated and had that confrontation and was featured in a lot of ads and chatter. the couple from st. louis that confronted those black lives matters protesters and republican senators speaking to the president and this record. you can stress how unusual this is that the president and first lady will be giving their rnc message. fully under way to redo the rose garden and south lawn for those major appearances. we should appointment out, the other appearance, we'll have the audience and people attending. we are told they will be

social socially distant. with the pandemic, this is going to be virtual and we weren't going to be speaking to reporters. it will be near to the republican convention. >> they'll be taking advantage of what they have in their arsenal certainly. joining me now, a democratic member of the national services committee. thank you for taking time with us. >> we've seen an extra ordinary contrast. the dnc showed people of every ethnicity, every gender.

a beautiful mosaic. a stunning contrast. the president is planning to campaign from the white house. if i set up from my house office here, wouldn't be see the conflict? he does not see corruption as he exposes it over and over again. let's take a look at the vote delivering for america act. expected to pass on party lines. passing it through the republican-held senate, an uphill battle and beyond that, the white house has vowed to veto it. does it feel like a losing battle. how did meaningful action be achieved? >> my constituents are up in

arms that the post office has not been funded. we did not pass those. telling us we need $25 billion to do their jobs. we have a president who with his attorney general and postmaster general who are over their head that they are kneecapping the postal service, one of the most trusted institutions in our country. as they unplug sorting machines. my con sitstituents are alarmed this. it is bizarre that at the expense of taxpayers, we are here at an emergency session. more than 173,000 americans are dead. more than 50 million americans are out of work.

it is a stunning back drop. more than 13%. this is a president incapable of doing the job. the case couldn't be clearer. we have to make a change and protect our postal service and our right to vote. >> pretty remarkable seeing such high mark. what did you think of it? did you find him trustworthy? did you believe him. finding out who was our first

mo postmaster general? benjamin franklin. enshrined in our constitution. mr. dejoy who is incapable of doing his job. leading thousands of employees. one single moment i got to hear where he was asked would he put back in the automated machines. those that he has unplugged and taken out. we have the highest volume of mail imaginable. he said no. that's a stunning miss management and transparent attempt to slow down the mail and interfere with our precious right to vote. >> absolutely.

are there questions you still want him to answer? >> absolutely. what made him start this slow down and what was the intent of it? what made him think he was qualified for the job? why doesn't he recognize his conflict of interest when he has millions in assets. this is someone unfit for the job whose intention was clearly to be in the arm of the political wing and interfere with the right to vote. one of the most corrupt things to do try to sew dout. giving your listeners hope. we have an election and system that will not allow this president to interfere with our

right to vote and with results that will be coming. my constituents want number one to fund the postal service. those morning the republicans whipping a no vote. that will backfire on them politically. in a grave way. >> pennsylvania congresswoman, always a pleasure. what lies at the heart of president trump's attacks of the post office might be a misunderstanding of the postal service. what doesn't he get?

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with postmaster louis dejoy. >> did you conduct any specific analysis on how your changes would impact seniors? yes or no, sir? >> ma'am, the policy changes that i -- >> yes or no, sir? >> hm, okay. looks like she didn't get the answer she wanted. despite that criticism. some say there are some positive changes to come from this. we always look for silver linings. trying to get americans to care about that. that's fallen or deaf ears. you'll agree, there has been so

much interest in whether or not it is well-financed. something david hendle told me. he's been working in this eco system for a long time. let's listen to what he has to say. >> i've been struck by the change in tune to the service of such a poor function and the sympathy now to the financial place it is in. >> that $25 billion bill designed to help the postal service get out of the hole that it is in. you were talking about the congress lady from pennsylvania. it is enshrouded that we have

the postal service. the president referring to it as a joke, suggesting that it could be a business. only a small minority of people have advocated for the privatization of the postal service. what it has been. the name has been a service. it is not supposed to be run like a business. if you go back to that long history, it was designed as a mechanism by which we could disseminate information across the country. that's truly what is important here. i want to go back to something louis dejoy said. there is a perception that he's an outsider. we have had outsiders come in to the postal service before to run it. they've been sucked in and take what experience they have and quickly learn this is a company with a long history.

more trick dwri here on where he can cut things. >> okay, david. i appreciate your in sights as always. now to decision 2020, preparations under both washington, d.c. and charlotte, north carolina. beginning on monday. unless they do a reversal, some notable big named supporters will not be appearing because of well, this. >> i'm a life-long republican but that attachment holds second place to my responsibility to my country. that's why i've chosen to appear at this convention. in normal times, something like this would not happen but these are not normal times. >> i've known donald trump most of my career. so disappointing and disturbing.

>> let me tell you donald trump has no include how to run a business let alone an economy. >> this isn't about democrat or republican. it is about a person decent enough, stable enough to get our economy back on track. >> joe biden will be a president we are all proud to salute. >> joining me now, former rnc chair and our friend national politico reporter. let's get into this. michael, you see this parade of prominent republicans that are endorsing the rival at the op opposing party convention. i would imagine this would be a nightmare. are these folks sinners or saints? >> in my book, their saints because they put the country

above their party. they are willing to take the hit for their party that they've taken for seen said about john in his presidential run. a stark contrast that these individuals are standing up at a time when republicans are not. it draws attention to the country to this contrast where these individuals look at the election and see the danger thatthat lies ahead with going with trump. as john casin said, look, i'm not talking about the policy but we have to be concerned about the country first. that's an important message right now.

>> has it ever happened that way? >> oh, yes. >> it has? >> no. i'm saying totally unprecedented. >> do you think their presence matters? >> it does matter. showing that president has a 10-point gap to the positive against joe biden on the economy. you have to understand why that is there and dig in a little bit. to do that, you have to come back and say. well, it is more than just the economy and this one thing. it is everything and that's the argument they make. what is unprecedented about this, not the fact that it was

done but the sheer number. this is something different because who is doing it, number one and the sheer number of it. >> the former republican president, still living. president george w. bush. he's not appearing, right? >> no. he's not. has been -- how shall we say, silence about this president's reelection in any regard. that says a lot. unlike what we saw on the democratic side with obama coming out. we will not see that on the republican side. >> a statement saying the progressives see largely at the convention. is there any seething overseeing

all those gop types taking center stage or do you think they consider it a victory? >> alex, there was criticism from progressives that the dnc show cased those. not it necessarily that those republicans shouldn't be there but it took away time to those who might speak to the base and nonwhite voters gaining a bigger foot hold in the party. here you see biden's real strategy, which is not so much to create the coalition. not relying on young voters. he's trying to do something no democrat has done in about a generation, which is to turn historically leaning constituents. college educated white voters, doing much better than president obama did. if he moves him. forming others. these two that he's reaching out

to, the purpose of putting the purpose there for those that don't typically support democrats. speaking to the decision to put other republicans up there because he says this is only about arithmatic. we have to win this election. >> appealing to those on the fence, those that say, yes, we are republicans and will say vote for joe biden or vote for donald trump while holding our nose? >> pretty much. self-identified conservatives and moderates who might ordinarily supported republicans but have soured on president trump. you've heard very little on policy and they actively deemphasize those things. there was literally one mention,

all four days on the issue of this election. that whole thing is deliberate. creating the coalition for no matter what you believe or what spectrum you come from. if you oppose, we have an acc t acceptable to you. >> the fact that ruth bader ginsberg is 77 years old and steven is 82 years old. these are liberals democrats want to have replaced with liberals on the court. good to see you both so much. meanwhile, steve bannon calls his arrest and shawn hannitiy calls president trump crazy behind his back. veel have more next. when the murray's started using gain ultra flings

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chief strategist, steve bannon. indicted for defrauding hundreds of thousands of donators to support, we build a wall. joining me now from white house communications director. anthony, good to see you. i'm curious what your reaction was when bannon was indicted. you know him. you were in the white house when he was there. >> i'm not a buddhist. i'm italian. my reaction was quite joyous. he's a bad guy. he's innocent until proven guilty. i'm talking about his character as a human being and what he's like. he's a very destructive sort of guy. not surprising to me he's in this kind of trouble. he did it before. this time he got caught.

we'll see how it unfolds. >> i'm not a budist. you knew that. >> i imagine you agreed with the snl depiction of him. >> the skin care look at him as the blotch. >>. >> a political hit job, this is to stop and instimulate people who have president trump's back against the wall. this is an expected defense? >> i don't think there was a reaction. he head through the 24-page defense.

21 pages of facts they've got him on text messages and phone calls and transfers again, he's innocent until proven guilty but will have to back these things up this is a guy who is a white nationalist, intent on separating the country. he wanted to wall off figuratively and physically, wall off parts of the country. coming into november, one less voice on that side is better for the country. >> michael cohen's new book,

"disloyal." you'll be shocked at the level of crimiality. what do you think. what i was saying not up to you to reveal it but it is rank criminality. ste steep, steep immorality backed up by evidence. it is not like michael is going to say this and the white house is going to discredit him and he had the problem in the court system and he went to prison. he is going to back it up with evidence to show the legality.

the betrayal to the country is astonishing. that information has been a very good job of capping that information. we are getting to his reelection and that will come water falling down. i should say the white house has said it is all a bunch of lies in advance of this book coming out. >> can i say something. a bunch of lies that he shows up with the documentary evidence that he shows the paperwork behind that. just curious what the white house will say to that. >> moving on to brian stelter releasing that book about trump called "hoax." this is what he had to say about

his relationship with fox news. >> it is such a disconnect between on air rhetoric and off air reality. that's what is propping up this presidency. it is hard to image inn the president at 40% approval and these people on fox, i'm sorry to say, they are lying about him every day. they are talking about a president that doesn't actually exist. >> go back to your time as white house communications director. tell me about this. this relationship between trump and anchors at his favorite network, fox news? >> i'm personal friends with sean. with he grew up sort of the same way here on long island. we don't talk about politics anymore. that would make sense. he has other friends that disagree with him and his position on president trump. the president, rightly or wrongly, the president was

masterful on understanding the system inside of fox. the president also was aware they didn't like him in the beginning. they may have turned to like him later. going after megyn kelly the anchor woman in that first debate. after they went hard at mr. trump. things unfolded differently. you have three or four. some is of those doing mental gymnastics saying the president is a four dim ensal chess player. i am not sure how they even say that with a straight face. i tried help the president. i am a life-long republican. i was asked to serve the state.

i served. i made a mistake a fully own up with. he does things that are unpatriotic, a bully. he's failed on policy and failed us on the health care crisis. he's destroyed the economy on his decisions related to covid-19. a whole list of things he's done and now this mushroom of information that will be coming up over the next two to three months and the koibter will be better off without him. he will be defeeted in november. he has a very different situation now. he has a very large group of republicans. some of the es steamed ones you showed. they are not with him. he doesn't have any of the rank and file people that have been the core mission, core muscle of the republican party. steve bannon said, 3% to 5% of

republicans, without those, they'll lose. >> anthony, great to talk to you. we'll see you again. the effort to mobilize the key group for joe biden to win and the effort that they need to do to make that happen. start your day with secret. secret stops sweat 3x more than ordinary antiperspirants. with secret, you're unstoppable. no sweat! try it and love it or get your money back.

turning now to the breaking news on capitol hill where the house is gathered to vote. democrat taking the floor right now. it all comes after the postmaster general in virtual testimony yesterday before the senate insisted election mail will get delivered security and on time. joining me now, congresswoman democrat from illinois. let me ask you your reaction to the testimony from the postmaster yesterday. >> i wish he would understand who his bosses are.

they are the american people. the 330 million americans who receive hundreds of millions of pieces of mail every single day, monday through saturday. those are his bosses. his job is not just to say he'll pause the dismantling of the postal service. that is not enough. what we are voting on today. that we go back to january 2020 and put these back to where they were. that includes these blue corner mailboxes we have seen. that includes putting them back in sorting machines that were dismantled. the machines that sort hundreds of thousands of mail ever hour and making sure as we move forward, that this guy, the postmaster general understands the vast majority of veterans receive medication, receive it through the postal service.

if we can't do right by the folks who served in the military then what can do would? >> does what they are telling you matchup to what you have heard from the postmaster general? >> it does not matchup. let me tell you how. these folks who deliver the mail. i want to give you a little bit of background here. my network i serve, 85% of the towns i represent are 5,000 people or fewer. 60% are 1,000 or fewer. we have one county the entire county is 67 people. with that said, these letter carriers and from throughout my 14-county area have told me that they have to go out first thing

in the morning. it doesn't matter if at the end of their shift, there is mail let, it just sits there. the sorting machine out of illinois that served the northern part where they have dismantled the machines, the mail coming in is slower. you have people telling their letter carriers, hey, i'm waiting for this check or medication and it is not here. it is those kind of stories repeated over and over again in this district. >> that has to be prut aller to those carriers because they know those constituents with whom they are working and presenting such vital information. >> is it heartbreaking for them? >> you bet it is. what was said to me. i think it is really critical.

two letter carriers said to me. this is the u.s. postal service. to which i said, you are right. it is not the u.s. postal business. you've got this million dollar plus donor to the trump administration or to donald trump as candidate. millions in donations to a businessman who had nothing to do with the postal service until a couple of months ago who is running this place. keep in mind, the hundreds of thousands of postal employees, many are veterans themselves. fur a veteran, you care deeply. this makes up the postal service. if i could tell you a quick story. we sent out a survey asking about the most important piece of mail they ever gotten or one they can remember. we heard everything from a guy

who the most excited he ever was was when his decoder ring came in the mail. it reminded me from discovering that was about ovaltine. another was from his friend serving in the middle east in the military. for me as a kid, i was always sending in those box tops and couldn't wait for whatever it was. i would ask my mom ever day, or that letter when you were accepted to your favorite college. there are a deep emotional connection. it is deep. we heard from about 1,000 people. we've heard from a thousand people. if you are a member of congress in new york city or ike a lot. but that is a big number. it is an issue that has struck a nerve and people are emotional

about what the trump administration is trying to do in the middle of a pandemic in the time we are going into wup of the biggest vote by mail and absent voting elections. we better get this right. the postmaster general who is going to appear. be honest with the american public. he owes it to everybody. not to members of congress but to the public about why he's doing what he's doing right now in the middle of a pandemic. >> i'm very appreciative of your stories, your emotion attachment to all of this. well done for sharing with us. >> thank you. let's go now to minneapolis and the story that reflects unity. two sisters there have come up with a better way to foster racist relations. the anti-racist book lending.

lists in a link in the facebook group. people can reserve the books and pick them up in an old mailbox turned little library. >> my husband is black. my family and children are bi-racial. people have reached out to ask to ask what can we do. i was asking myself the question, what is my part. >> most of those books are geared towards teens and young adults. >> what joe biden says to bernie sanders to help him win the election. that's next. ♪ [ engines revving ] ♪ ♪

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literal literally, on how to mobilize that voting bloc that could be crucial to this election. joining me now, that author. he was there that affectionate uncle bernie. welcome chuck. good the see you. let's look at the nevada caucuses. sanders won 70% of the latino vote there. you were in leading force behind that initiative. if democrats want to get that same energy in november what do biden and harris need to do? >> you need to go into the community right away, alec. i wrote about this in my book arc multilayered communication. younger latinos consume all of their information via digital. older lateenoses speak spanish. you have this to go to telemundo and union vision and talk to people on spanish radio and tv. the problem is most democrats start too late and don't have

enough time to persuade a lot of people. starting early is a big fact neuro. >> let's look at a poll from this week. it shows that 70% of latinos disapprove of the president's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. that's up from 56 there you can see in may. the latino community has been disproportionately affected by this coronavirus pandemic. how much is that going to play in the way latinos vote? >> alex i have been doing focus groups all summer. this is the number one issue that comes up time and time again. what are you going to do to help us? we are dying at three times the rate. our children are eight times more likely to get sick based off the cdc study and latinos in the focus groups do not like donald trump. they are asking me what are senator harris and joe biden going to do to make your lives better? this week they made the first step to get that information out. coronavirus is going to be a big part of this election. >> do you have any sense check what have polls are saying in terms of latino support for

president trump? do you know where that stands? >> yes, it started off in the summer higher than we would want it to because he was the only one on spanish tv because he was having the chronobriefings. you didn't have a alternative offering out there because the primary fight was still going on. my new super pac is putting out information into the latino community. the more they learn about what donald trump has been doing, the less his support grows. >> you might have heard a bit of the criticism this past week for the dnc as not having included the only latino presidential candidate julian castro. you had ocasio-cortez but only spoke for 60 seconds. are you concerned not having latino representative at the convention could end up hurtinged by within latino voters or is there time to combat that.

>> there is time. we will be the largest sector. and we will single handedly be able to deliver a states like arizona, florida, or north carolina. we want the see ourselves representing our party and on those stages. i think we did an okay job, but we can do a much better job. we need the give a lot more emphasis on latino outreach and representation of what we see. >> you are from texas. how do you think texasl go in terms of the latino vote. >> there is room in texas. there is a debate with democratic. my first race was ann richard in texas in the late nine. i think this could be the year in texas where the la tenno vote could tip that scale. >> i love your cow boy hat. it shows you are a true texan. chuck thank you so much. that does it for me. i will so you tomorrow at noon eastern. up next, my colleague, brandy

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good afternoon. i'm lindsey riser. breaking news as we watch capitol hill very closely today. something you don't hear me say often on a saturday. a vote coming up to provide $25 billion of funding for the u.s. postal service which has been turned into a political football. democrats claim the president is using it to undermine the mail-in vote for november's election. house speaker nancy pelosi saying this just a short time ago. >> we will pass the bill, and it will be on a bipartisan way today. and then we will send to it the senate. and let me just say that, as i have always said, public

sentiment is everything.