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white house as the gop comes up with a way to hold a convention during a pandemic. it will be compare and contrasted to the democrats. house democrats have already moved on to the political controversy surrounding the post office. any minute we're going to be set to see here a vote on capitol hill as democrats look to pass legislation to give $25 billion of funding to the u.s. postal service. you're looking at live shots right now from the capitol. this amount of money is to ensure its readiness for mail-in voting in the fall, an effort speaker nancy pelosi says lawmakers on both sides of the aisle will support. >> we will pass the bill, and it will be in a bipartisan way today. and then we will send it to the senate. let me just say that i've always said public sentiment is everything. they'll be hearing from their constituents because this hits home. >> now, the president, meanwhile, is continuing his attacks on mail-in voting and
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fanning the flames of conspiracy over the integrity of november 3rd's election saying he wants to use sheriffs as poll watchers on election day. one thing the president is not talking about. that's the arrest of his former campaign boss turned white house adviser, steve bannon, who was arrested on a multi-million dollar yacht thursday. prosecutors allege he stole money donated by trump supports donated to fund the border wall and using it for his own personal expensions. he has pled not guilty to those charges. all eyes are on the republican convention which kicks off monday. details are slowly emerging. it will be hosted between north carolina and the white house. first lady melania trump revealing a remodel of the rose garden, from where she will address the nation on tuesday. joined now is nbc white house correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, a lot ahead of them.
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four very important days. what do we know about what it's going to look like? >> one of the things that always happens, richard, is the party that has the white house gets to go second when it comes to convention time. and there may be an advantage there by getting to see what the democrats did and then trying to have their own make-do situation given covid. what we expect to see is something different than what the democrats did, and that will include a lot more live programming, they argue. the main speech is to be live whereas at the democratic convention some of the important speeches had been taped in advance. that's one difference. those planning it and those associated with the convention say they hope it will have an organic feel because of that live element. and system of it will take place right here at the white house which is certainly a break from every kind of tradition to have the first lady make her address on behalf of her husband from the rose garden. you showed the pictures of
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renovation that's taken place, new planting, and getting that spruced up and tv lighting installed. and the president having his address from the white house grounds. and we expect an in-person audience to watch the president deliver that address next week. but that won't be the only time we see president trump involved in his own convention. while we saw joe biden a couple of different times during the week, the democrats chose to follow the tradition of thursday being the big night. what we're hearing for republicans is the president wants to star every night in some way or some form to have a presence each of the nights to try to build some of the enthusiasm. so, there will be stark differences in terms of style and policy and messaging. and that's something that will unfold this week. and of course like every convention, they want to hold back a few things as surprises. but expected to be a very white house-centric and a different sort of take on the vision for a second term for president trump if he were to get one.
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we certainly saw how democrats want to prevent that based on their candidates and their message, richard. >> what's the word on how involved the president is on the day to day plans for the republican convention? heard he was writing down notes as he was watching the dnc. >> reporter: we certainly know that president likes to be very involved in most of his public aexperien appearances. now, there are speech writer, of course. there are planner who is have been working on all of this. for both parties there's the big scramble to try to figure out how to do things in a covid period when they can't have the convention they originally had conceived and in many ways paid for parts of that. yes, the president has been involved in that and wants it to have a feel that will be more inspirational, they described. certainly democrats found their convention very inspiring for a lot of different reasons and different stories and themes drawn out in that. the president has a different take and he wants that to be about the greatness of america as he defines it. so, expect the heavy hand of the
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president to be very much influenced in the days of the convention that are ahead, richard. >> all right, kelly, thank you so much. nbc's white house correspondent, kelly o'donnell, thank you. the house is set to vote on legislation to bolster the united states postal service. we expect that in the next hour or so. the democratic bill would spend $25 billion to the usps. this comes as postmaster general louis dejoy told senators yesterday that election mail will be delivered fully and on time despite recent changes. joining us now leanne caldwell on capitol hill for us. i saw you there earlier listening to the speaker. she is setting up, certainly, the showdown of getting this thing done and going over to the senate and if it makes it past that, to the president. what do you expect to happen? >> well, i don't want it to be brought up in the senate. but it will have a majority,
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most of the democrats are expected to vote for it. and it's going to be mostly along party lines. but we are seeing a handful of republicans who are saying they are going to support it as well because there's a couple things that republicans are having to deal with. a lot of them represent rural districts who are very reliant on the postal service. and also remember there's an election in less than 75 days that is also playing a factor. i spoke with one of those republicans who is going to vote for the legislation today. it's rodney davis of illinois. and here's why he's voting for it. >> well, i'm going to vote yes. i've been a big supporter of our postal service. i think the men and women who deliver our mail to our mailboxes every day get taken for granted for the job they do and the precision they have throughout that process that really keeps many rural americans that i represent, it keeps them available to have that lifeline into the global
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marketplace. >> most republicans, though, are going to vote against it. republican leaders are telling their own members that the $25 billion is in fact unnecessary, and they're saying that the democrats' complaints about the postal service are a conspiracy theory. well, there's new documents that the democrats on the house oversight committee just released earlier today that shows statistics that, in fact, mail delivery did slow down by as much as almost 10% starting in early july. that is shortly after the new postmaster general and trump donor, louis dejoy, took the el h helm. so, while this is going to vote today -- or going to pass today, i should say -- it's a very political issue, and the white house has indicated that they would veto it if it even reaches the president's desk, richard. >> leanne, that's a great example you had for the member
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from illinois. it's tough when they get back to the district with the meat and potato issues being debated where you're at at the capitol. the stimulus for covid has also stalled. what's the latest on that? we're thinking of the same types of voters as average american, if you will? >> yeah, house speaker nancy pelosi has resisted any pressure by some of her rank and file members to actually vote, perhaps, on an emergency unemployment insurance bill. and there's also some talk about voting on a smaller h.e.r.o.e.s. act bill. democratic leadership say today is about the postal service. it's an emergency to ensure safe elections. they say they don't want to undermine their own negotiating hand by voting on a small piece of this bill or smaller piece of legislation. but it has opened them up for a
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tax, richard, because just today on capitol hill the chief of staff for the president was here meeting with rank and file members of the republican and democrat party about these covid relief talks. he said that he stopped by pelosi's office to see if she was free. she was in a meeting, but he is saying does she care more about the postal service than those people who don't have jobs, richard. >> all right. leanne, thank you so much. nbc's leanne caldwell for us live on the hill. democrats are hoping to get a polling bounce out of last week convention, officially launching the joe biden and kamala harris campaign for the white house. the four-day convention featured a star studded line up for celebrities all echoing a call to action to join together and defeat president trump come november 3rd. >> let me be as honest and clear as i possibly can, donald trump is the wrong president for our country.
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>> donald trump hasn't grown into the job because he can't. and the consequences of that e the constant chaos leaves us adrift. the incompetence makes us feel afraid. the callusness makes us feel alone. >> this is our moment. this is our mission. may history be able to say that the end of this chapter of american darkness began here tonight as love and hope and light join in the battle for the soul of the nation. >> president trump hit back, calling the convention the most angry and most gloomy convention in american history. the rnc kicked off in north carolina monday. kimberly atkins, senior opinion writer for "the boston globe," and jeff mason, white house correspondent. let's start with you on this,
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kimberly. do we expect then based on the president's earlier comments that this will be quite a dark back and forth? >> well, look, it depends on how you define darkness, right? recall that donald trump came into office with his inaugural speech talking about american carnage. the vision of america that was presented by the democrats was that of hope. it showed the diversity of the nation and its resilience even in the face of a pandemic. and it really laid bare that it is at the white house where the leadership has failed. it didn't paint the country as dark or in despair. it painted the leadership as creating this obstacle that needs to be overcome and for people to join together and fight. donald trump in 2016, throughout his presidency, and continues to tap into grievance politics. he continues to push and paint
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democrats as the enemy, as ungodly, as something terrible. so, the darkness is really, when it comes to campaign messaging, coming from the republican side. it has been coming from that side for four years. that's what i expect to see heading into the prevention. >> jeff, what are you hearing? how's the president? what's the tone going to be like? >> that's a great question, richard. i do think they want to send a different tone. it was interesting seeing white house officials reacting to the dnc friday, kellyanne conway saying to white house reporters that the country needs to be uplifted. president trump, as kimberly laid out very well, isn't known for giving speeches that are necessarily emphasizing lifting people up. so, it will be interesting to see if that changes in the coming week. i do think that they have talked about emphasizing people at their convention.
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i think somewhat like the dnc, you will see and hear from regular folks, perhaps though on different issues related to gun control, related to taxes. some of the policies that the republicans want to highlight. so, there will be differences both in terms of style, nein te of substance, and in terms of tone. >> if there was an opportunity here to underline your strength, as they often tell you, go in with what you're good at. and if it's the economy for this president, is that what we're going to hear a lot about throughout the whole four days here, kimberly? and how does that compare to what the democrats did in this past week? >> well, certainly the plan before the pandemic was to campaign on the economy which was doing quite well but has really been decimated by this pandemic. so, we've already seen the president try to message that the country can get back after the pandemic to the economy that
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it had before and that the democrats would not take them there. it -- i can't wait to see exactly how they make that case because just with, still, more than a million more people filing for unemployment just this past week, the facts and figures just lay in stark contrast to that, losing that really important message. so, i'm looking to see how the republicans say how they will handle the pandemic, if they will take a turn, maybe come forward with some new plan for that. exactly how people -- to get people back on their feet from an economy that's reeling. i travelled through the rust belt last week, and the empty store fronts -- the president talks a lot about the stock market. but main street is really suffering in a way that's extraordinary. so, it's a big task to try to paint a rosie economic picture at this moment. >> that big contrast between
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main street and wall street. since we're talking numbers for a moment, jeff, let's look at what the dnc did last week. 122 plus million watching live across all the platforms. here's the money that was raised, 70 million during the dnc. why not, let's add another $48 million after the announcement of kamala harris. how did they do? it looks good. >> those seem like pretty favorable numbers. to tie it at rating. >> scores. >> and fund ragz. yes, as a metric. he mentioned the stock market. he will also absolutely be watching to see what kind of ratings the republican national convention achieves this week compared to the democrats. and that's one reason, i think, for some differences in design. you had kelly speaking earlier about the events that will be at the white house as well as some, of course, still in charlotte. but in general, i think you will
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see the president trying to have somewhat more of an event that is more typical for something that wouldn't be impacted by covid that will certainly be demonstrated at his speech thursday night when lots and lots of people are expected to be on the south lawn. >> on the south lawn. and you will be watching very carefully, both of you. >> i will. >> yes, you will. thank you. coming up, the republican national convention convenes next week. we'll talk to a republican strategist who says the event meant to celebrate the party and its conservative values has been hijacked by president trump. i'm a performer. -always have been. -and always will be. never letting anything get in my way. not the doubts, distractions, or voice in my head. and certainly not arthritis. new voltaren provides powerful arthritis pain relief to help me keep moving.
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former national security adviser mike flynn faces criminal charges. chris collins found guilty of securities fraud and supposed to report to jail in a month. paul manafort who planned the entire 2016 convention, he's under home confinement for eight felonies. just in time for the convention though, former white house adviser steve bannon was arrested and charge with fraud this week, this for the build the wall crowd funding campaign. bannon has pleaded not guilty to that. joining me now, msnbc political analyst and author of the just released "still right" composting american makes the case for conservatism, one of the shortest titles out there today. rick, great to have you. congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> how appropriate is this right now when we look. you saw the lead in.
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when we have this administration's confidants put in so many questionable, if not illegal, positions and situations? what does that say about 2020s republican party? what is it? >> well, it says you are the company you keep. you know, all these people -- some of these things are audacious. the idea that people would donate money to build the wall when there really is no mechanism to get money to the government to build the wall. it didn't make sense from the beginning. then to say 100% that money was going to go toward building the wall which was not true. and then to be broadcasting from central france from a yacht, you know, just might have sent a lot of red flags. but, you know, the trump team seems to constantly be in trouble with the law. and, you know, it's hard to explain other than the president
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runs his operation luike a bob boss would. >> so, what is the right, right now if it used to be the party of reagan, then after, the tea party's party. whose party is it this week. what are we going to see in those four days? >> well, look, i would say the republican party, as i always knew it, is dead and gone and is likely not coming back. i would predict a 1974 watergate style wipe out of the republican party. and it would take a long time to rebuild it because ultimately, richard, parties have to believe in things and this party only believes in its leader, donald trump, and they believe all the lies that he tells. but on issues, we used to talk about issues and used to debate them. issues like trade, immigration, economic policy, debt and deficit spending, this president's 180 degrees out of phase with conservatism. that is a governing philosophy. and we have a lot of people who
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are now running around massacre raiding calling themselves conservatives. conservatism has always been sort of unwanted foster child or orphan as an etiology. it was never invited to dinner. when it was invited it got to sit at the kids' table until reagan and reagan put them at the grown ups' table. then they drove the agenda for a number of years. now conservatism is once again an orphan. i wrote the book because i get disgusted with two things. one is people on the left denigrating conservative. it's a rational philosophy, not my philosophy, but it's a rational philosophy. but conservative is also a rational governing philosophy and i think it's an attractive one. and i think too few people know what it is both on the left and the right. >> if this is the final course of the meal you've been talking
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about for this president, what will be the right? what will be conservative after him? >> well, we're going to have that argue. the argument is going to be that when the party, i believe, is going to get purged, it's going to be the rick tylers and rick wilson's and george conway's and bill crystal's who have all destroyed the party because they couldn't get on board. you signed on with a salesman and conman and he drove the party into the ground. look at the mail scan dad, has trump undermining the post office to set himself up in case he loses, so he has an excuse for losing. if it's close, he has excuse for hanging on to power and he can call the whole thing corrupt. if trump interferes, as he is, in the electoral process, the election process, every democrat on the ballot can say and
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contest the election results. that's going to put republicans in a bind. when democrats lose by -- some democrats might lose marginally, they can challenge that and say the president screwed up the mail-in ballots. i don't know where the mail-in ballots are. then you get chaos. that's the most dangerous thing. you can descend into tyranny rather quickly. >> 15 seconds, who's the conservative standard bearer right now? >> i wish i knew. i keep talking about reagan. i would love to point to somebody else who is current. but there are good conservatives out there that are fighting the good cause, young people like matt lewis, like rick wilson, bill crystal we all look up to. there's a lot of charlie. and i believe we will prevail. >> that was a layup. i thought you were going to say the author is still right -- >> you say that.
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in my mind i should be saying me, right. but that would be the typical thing. i can't do that. i hope people read the book and like it. >> i think it worked out well either way. you got it. next the group of voters that could put biden in the white house and tell trump, you're fired. e and tell trump, you're fired
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all right. we're looking at live pictures on the left side of your screen. representative green speak at the moment. this because democrats in congress are trying to stretch their muscles, muscles that might be getting bigger after this election. they're trying to get $25 billion through for the usps. we expect that to happen any time this hour or very soon. now, the question might be, where will the balance of power be for the senate as well. republicans have 23 senate seats up for election. south carolina has one of them. republican senator lindsey
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graham holds a slim lead over jamie harrison. one is leaning blue. while it's still too early to gauge how much of a bump biden's collection of kamala harris as vice president led to his campaign, biden's fortunes in november may depend largely on turning out black voters in battleground states that donald trump narrowly won four years ago. for more on this i want to bring in my panelists. so, we're looking at -- if you're on your side of the aisle, and david jolly is too for that matter in that way -- and you're looking at the number of senators that are in the r column that are toss up, you only need, what? a net four for the democrats to
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gain power again in the senate. and it seems to be ebbing that way. >> well, it's really good news because a couple of months ago, we would not have been having this conversation. were still tremendous amount of uncertainty about whether or not democrats really had a shot here. and to be clear, it's not in the bag. you know, we still have a tremendous amount of work ahead of us. but it is going in a positive direction largely because of, as we've talked about quite a bit, you know, the president's handling of the virus. he gets good marks for the economy, but his handling of the virus, the handling of the racial unrest post-george floyd, i think when you put those things together, they are mobilizing. there's a political focus point, if you will, which has mobilized a lot of folks. people who obviously would have gone out to vote no matter what. but there are so many people who
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are now bringing friends and family members to go vote. you know, it's a good sign for us. and unfortunately, it came from a series of tragedies. but this is an opportunity to get good governance back. >> david, from what you're saying, what does the white house need the do more? what does the republican party need to do more? the word is, the reporting is, they're not helping the election committees either for the house, which doesn't seem like they make much difference anyway. but they're not helping the senate where that's a big need for defense there. >> look, it's hard to be a republican on the ballot this year when all things are dominated by donald trump. and my criticism of the president is well known, but i would paraphrase karl rove when he said last week that donald trump would be disciplined in his message, you would see his numbers improve. because generally on the economy, there are certainly soft spots and there are
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inequities that are furthered by his tax bill. we generally have a strong economy. we're a nation not at war. and that is typically good for a president who is disciplined on president. if donald trump would just shut up, but he won't. and we're seeing the head winds of down ballot senate candidates in north carolina, maine, perhaps south carolina, and it's easier to unseat an incumbent republican than incumbent democrat but it is because the republican senators have nothing to distance themselves from trump before now. the lifeline they need from cross party coalition isn't there because they cut that lifeline when donald trump got elected. >> what does that mean, basel, putting on your fundraising hat here. when the white house in your own party as well as your own party is not helping you on the ground. they decided not to give you money. what does that mean? >> well, it provides an opening
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for democrats. and here's an example. we've seen over the last few months in states like north carolina, georgia, all over the country, florida, the state democratic parties, the individual state democratic parties are actually -- have actually increased their fundraising. they're getting more resources to build the infrastructure. so, that's what that does. it provides that window of opportunity so that we can have that impact on down ballot races. i love -- i love barack obama. love barack obama, but there are a lot of party chairs and executive directors that felt he didn't do enough to provide support for the actual infrastructure. hillary clinton did that significantly during her 2016 campaign. >> right. >> we've seen a lot of activity since. and that is -- that's one of those things that's really going to propel the senate candidates come november. that rich robust infrastructure. >> so, dave, if you're red in a
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blue district -- we go back to the live pictures in the capitol. we have democrats pushing for the postal service, pushing for a stimulus that will help many in these red districts. you've got to be one of those folks here if you're, again, an r, going can you throw me a bone, white house, please? can you help me out because it's not easy for me to win my district. >> that's true, richard. but we also have to put responsibility on these down ballot candidates. if you look at primaries including in florida this past week, republicans are nominating trump-like candidates, even a south florida conspiracy theorist republican candidate. you can't hold this all on donald trump when the party has agreed to continue to elevate and celebrate those who look like donald trump in down ballot races. i think republicans are heading into a real landslide going the other way in november, and i agree with rick tiler in a previous segment. this is shaping up to be a very
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good year for democrats. >> david -- >> if i could just -- >> go ahead. >> sorry. david's point is really well-taken. what you're seeing this u.s. senate primary in tennessee, there's a young doctor, cameron web, who hasn't had a democrat in that district since 2008, representing that district since 2008. so, it's leaving the door open for a lot of young progressive candidates to come in and actually do well in a lot of these races. so, it's what's happening on the republican side and leaving the door open for a lot of change and progressive movement, particularly by african-american candidates on the left. >> thank you both. have a good saturday. with several states decides not to allow fall football this year due to the coronavirus, some student athletes are moving to other states where they can actually play, risking their health for a college scholarship. that's next.
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high school sports have been up ended by the covid-19 pamg as different school districts in states make every different decision about whether or not play and when. some top tier athletes are making big decisions to transfer schools and some cases moving across the country with the hopes of getting the playing time they need to be recruited by colleges. in other cases, some athletes are choosing not to participate at all.
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julia chester is in annapolis, maryland, where she got a chance to talk with players and parents about these decisions. that's got to be tough. they're just trying to make lemonade, if you will, out of big lemons. >> they are, richard. and i spoke with a few family who is did make the move, defensive back from california who moved to iowa to make sure he could get the tapes needed for recruiters. long snapper from illinois who moved all the way to florida with his mom so that he could play a senior fall season and have a chance at a scholarship. so, with the patchwork of decisions by states of whether or not to have fall sports or to postpone them entirely to 2021, it really is a tough decision for parents. only 14 states have given the green light to fall football, with 17 saying they're not playing at all until 2021. now, another player of this is that public schools and private schools operate under different rules. so, i'm here at st. mary's high
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school in maryland where earlier today the team had voluntary workouts and they're okay with the uncertainty for now. they're hoping when the organization reassesses in october they'll be able to play. i talked to the team's quarterback here about why people are so determined to play football this fall. here's what he said about the moves. >> i think it just shows how much that everyone cares about football, all high school kids. they really want to play. they'll even move states to play. >> reporter: and i spoke with the head of the national federation for high school sports who address, you know, there are some criticisms. are these players bumping locals from the roster? are they endangering public health by moving between state lines where covid cases differ? and the head of the organization really just urged caution and patients. so, trusting states to make the best decision for their districts. but another thing that's going to have to be evaluated is these
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transfer rules, that, you know, high school students really want to be able to get recruited by colleges in the fall. here's what the head of the association told me about how they're approaching this uncertainty with fall sports and covid-19. >> i think we have to approach every state situation with an open mind. i wouldn't say across the board that state associations should relax transfer rules, but there are a number of rules that are in place that we may have to revisit. one of them might be transfer rules, depending on whether or not there's absolutely no programming for kids. and there is a reason why being engaged in a sport in particular is important. >> reporter: and for all of these schools regardless of whether you're one of the 37 states and territories that have a modified fall sports schedule, or as i mentioned, the 14 states that kicked off their football season, friday night lights,
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last night, it is still uncertain, uncertain whether certain states will start their fall seasons and if there are upticks and outbreaks of covid-19 if other states will have to cut theirs short. richard. >> julia, what are parents saying? >> reporter: so, parents that i've spoke to that did make the moves for their kids, they argue that they're doing what's best for their children. one explicitly asked a coach, will my kid be taking away another opportunity if he comes to this school? that was one case in florida, and the coach said, no, we actually need this position right now. another family argued we're making a risk if we go to the grocery store to get covid-19, so if my kid wants to play football and have a future with college, it's a risk they're willing to take. another argument is it's not just about states. in some states they're allowing in-person classes, or at least a hybrid model, whereas the california student didn't want to do all-virtual learning.
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if he was able to be in a classroom and play sports, that was a doubly sweet deal for that family. >> great reporting. thank you so much. anxiety is high as students return to universities and administrators are struggling to keep up with the threat posed by covid-19. that's next. - [narrator] did you just reward yourself for spending a perfectly reasonable amount of time on the couch with tacos from grubhub? grubhub's gonna reward you for that with a $5 off perk. (doorbell rings) - [crowd] grubhub! (fireworks exploding)
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coronavirus top more than 5.6 million nationwide. universities are trying to make some last-minute changes. meanwhile, the cdc reveals a new report suggesting child care centers can reopen safely but only in areas where the virus is contained. let's go to our medical msnbc contributor. doctor, friday the cdc came out with more details that keep on
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defining as they do day after day and week after week. what's in the latest details they gave us? >> happy saturday, richard. good to be with you. there's some evidence child care centers may actually be safe places for children, which can be promising because a lot of these parents nationwide really need to go back to work and they need to have child care. so that's promising. as you know and as you just pointed out in your story earlier, what we're seeing nationwide are schools and universities that are republope often prematurely or taking into consequences when college age children or adults party and they're getting infected. this virus does not
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discriminate. need to have a very detailed plan to keep our people safe. >> the cdc also saying that the number could be much more than what we believe, unfortunately. some 215,000 is the death toll in america and then there's the university of washington saying they updated their number saying by the end of the year we could see over 300,000. i know it's difficult to estimate, right, doctor, but what do these numbers tell us? >> you're absolutely right. we have a lot of different data sets, but they're all fairly bleak, richard. and the major reason for that is because they are -- the data that they're putting in is based on how people are behaving. we've talked about this multiple times. the way this pandemic will respond will be directly related to how we behave, right. so we already know that in communities, in states, in regions, in other countries around the world, when people
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either stay at home, stay physically distanced and wear a mask, and i do not leave my home without wearing a mask, those areas have contained the virus. they're in positions where it's safer to reopen schools, reopen businesses but there are many other states where that's simply not case. and the united states has a whole has not at all successfully contained the virus. that's why we still continue to see rising cases, hospitalizations and deaths, depending on what part of the country you're looking at. and to me this is a reflection of poor leadership from a federal level tracing down to every single state and community, richard. >> doctor, one of the notes being made from the university of washington, we could see over 2,000 deaths come december 1st. that is staggering. >> it's alarming. let's not forget, we're almost at the end of august. what's lurking around the corner
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in a couple of weeks, it's flu season. in one flu season, the most recent on record, 2018/2019, we had 24 milli had 34 million cases and almost 500 hospitalizations. so a couple of flu seasons with covid-19, as well as respiratory infections and other illnesses that have been on the back burner, such as good old fashions heart disease and stroke and cancers, this is going to really paralyze our existing and fractured health care system and is going to disproportionately going to impact communities of color. we need strong, empathic leader that guides with policy decisions based on science. >> quickly, therapeutics and vaccines, where are we? >> the new administration is
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saying we'll have something by the end of the year. we have to distribute this to 2 million, 3 million people. we don't know how safe or effective it's going to be. we have the flu vaccine. everybody needs to get it. i get it, my family and patients get it. >> doctor lpipi roy, thank you o much. >> for now i turn it over to reverend al sharpton and politics nation.
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good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, a virtual success. the luminaries of the democratic party made it all official this week, formally making joe biden and kamala harris their candidates to defeat donald trump. while even this virtual convention could not completely obscure the rifts within the party, the gap between the establishment wing and the progressives of its presumed future, the unifying theme, the rallying cry was the uncommon threat posed by a second term of donald trump's presidency. of course next week's
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