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a very good sunday to you. thanks for spending your afternoon with us and spending rest of this hour as we get the laits for you president trump prepares for a big week at the republican national convention. he is said to address the nation this evening. the white house says it's about a development on coronavirus treatment. this as the president is dealing with another scandal. >> [ bleep ]. and the lying, oh my god. i'm talking too freely. >> the president's sister caught on tape secretly recorded by the president's niece. what the trump family is saying about that tape. the house voted to fund the post office and democrats are ready to grill the postmaster general over nationwide mail slowdowns ahead of the election. the theory of mother nature. one disaster raging on the west coast as another takes aim at the gulf coast. historic weather event. the possibility of two hurricanes spinning in the gulf
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at the same time. the evidence so far has not been conclusive about whether convalesce convalescent plasma works, twhowhen to administer it and what dose to use. kelly, what do we expect to hear? >> reporter: here it is a sunday evening on the eve of the president's own political convention and there's an announcement about a potential
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treatment option for doctors and their patients who have coronavirus. the timing is interesting. is it being done safely? those are some of the questions we'll put to the president. our understanding is the president would announce this use of con velescent plasma. some of the benefits of having recovered from the illness may transfer to that new pashtient. among the questions and concerns, has there been enough data. has it been done in the type of scientific studies that are done for treatment and is this
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happening too quickly. the fda does have the ability to authorize, on a temporary basis the use of a medication like this which opens some doors for doctors and cuts some red tape to use, a phrase. is it safe. there are expert who is believe it is largely safe. that it is predictably effective but they don't have all the answers. they don't know how many people it can help. they don't know what they don't know. that's part of what the rigor of science is supposed to inform them. we know based on reporting there's been some debate in the scientific community if there was the right time to do this. that's what we expect and we expect to see the fda director
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and the secretary of health and human services and we'll have chance to talk about science and politics, we hope, to get to the bottom of this and will it help people who are suffering with this terrible illness. richard. all right. thank you. let's bring in dr. joseph fair. when we listen to the reporting from kelly o donell, tell us what this might mean? >> it's one of the oldest treatments that we know of for viral illness. it's been if use since 1915. largely with good results. it doesn't work on every virus but it works on a lot of viruses. the way it works is part of covid-19 and a viral infection is your body is trying mount an anti-body response to fight that infection. we're taking people recovered
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from kcovid-19 that have developed neutralizing an antibodies that would halt the virus pure, over more or less purifying them through their serum and it has to match your blood type. we can then add that as a tool kit for that person to use as part of their own immune response. it's like giving them extra ammunition to fight long before they have developed their own ammunition. that helps them get through it and helps them survive the disease in large part. as we just heard, obviously, more trials need to go onto see how well it works on large scale. i have a lot of faith in it. i'm excited this has come about and as i said it's tried and true and been in news for over 100 years now. >> from the reporting, we understand it will be a streamline process. we'll get the details shortly. put that in the context of the over therapeutics as well as the
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two dozen vaccines that are seeing some positive movement forward. how big is a bullet what we expect the president to announce? >> it's wa we can do now. studies have proven correctly, a lot of neutralized antibodies doesn't help patients recover. . if we can do that now, that's a tool we have in our arsenal now. that will not stop the development of the other tools, treatment, vaccines that we have coming down the pipeline. we'll see the things in is a tool that has roughly lly 100 y of safety trials. not with covid-19. there needs to be safety trials for covid-19. it's a tool that will allow us to make a dent in the fight until next tools become available and go through their rigorous processes of testing and ultimately, hopefully we have a vaccine. >> quickly for a civilians here.
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difference between what this plasma is and the antibody treatments that we have been hearing so much about recently? >> actually, it's the exact same thing other than sometimes when you say an antibody treatment that's a highly pu lly purified antibeside thant antibody that you would consider a drug. you're transferring a large tool kit versus a very speescialized tool kit. >> natural, organic compared to what's built in a lab. thank you so much. we'll, again, we're watching it. 5:30 today. we expect the president to be making an announcement about this therapeutic. thank you so much. tomorrow's republican national convention kicks off with an in-person roll call in charlotte, north carolina.
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amanda goldman is on the ground for us. amanda, we heard that president trump wants the rnc to have more live speakers and he will make an appearance every night and that he's bringing an apprentice producers on top of that. >> reporter: that's exactly right. we are learning what it will look like throughout the rnc. this is the official business of the republican national convention that took place over the weekend and leading into tomorrow. we will see the roll call happen with a scale down amount of delegates and renomination speeches to re-nominate president trump. we're slowly starting to learn more including a number of speakers that will be presented in prime time in the washington, d.c. area. in addition to vice president pence and trump, other members of their families as well as mike pompeo, mitch mcconnell, kellyanne con way and nikki haley that will be making
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speeches on his behalf as a part of the convention festivities. >> nbc amanda golden, thank you for that report. so much going on in charlotte, north carolina. now to some breaking news out of the gulf of mexico. twin storms are brewing. hurricane marco and tropical storm laura expected the make landfall this week. marco on track to target land. what's the problem you're watching right now in. >> everything is as expected with marco. we haven't had any big shifts.
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they hit exactly the same spot, two days apart? unlikely. some areas may get fringe effects from both storms. as far as right now, wind gusts are not that bad. we're not seeing any rain damage. the rain bands are starting to appear on radar. we'll be tracking that to show you where the strongest wind gusts are. marco is roughly 350 miles away from the louisiana coastline. landfall sometime around noon, 2:00 p.m. or so over the marshy areas.
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we have any major problems with water, it will be with the storm surge tomorrow afternoon. a million questions with laura. right now looking healthy. horrific flooding over the last two days and also the dominican republic. we take the storm and you notice all this wiggly lines, these are our computer models. some of our computers are weaker storms towards new orleans. a lot of questions on laura. it has potential to be a bad storm but it doesn't mean it will be. it's likely because that interaction that we could get between these two storms, one of the keys to forecast will be, if marco can remain strong enough, maybe lingering near houston, it could deflect the storm towards new orleans. we have a lot of variables.
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i won't have any answers really, good defin tifr answers until we get to tomorrow amp. >> it's going to be a busy week. sam brock, you heard what bill has been saying today and over the week here. what are you seeing there on the ground? >> reporter: the governor telling people the your last resort should be shelters. there's still a deadly virus lurking in addition to the concerns of multiple hurricanes. we're watching people shoveling sand into their sand bags. long lines at the grocery store with mayor telling people they should have five days of non-perish inon-per i non-peri non-perishable items. five gallons of water per person. we have sailors batoning down
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their hatches in the marinmarin. i'm standing in the lower nineth ward. all of the homes were levelled after 2005 in hurricane katrina. all of this had to be rebuilt. the biggest concern is the flood protection system. over this shoulder, this is a rebuilt flood wall. we have some drone footage to show you which demonstrates the water level for this industrial canal is above the street where we are now. that is emblemmatic of the fact we're below sea level in new orleans. this is up with of biggest problems they had to deal with even after investing 14 billion dollar to improving flood walls, levees, drains and pumps, sewage systems. at the end of the day they are still facie ining topographical challenges that don't go away from boosting flood systems. neighbors have had to literally walk through deceased bodies that they are seeing on a normal storm flooding here. what will happen with a hurricane? that's what every one is keeping
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a close eye on. >> the locals are watching the 15th anniversary of hurricane katrina. more break weather relapted ne -- relapted news in the west. one of the worst wildfires ravage the stats. six people have died. with more than 14,000 firefighter continuing to try to extinguish the flames. the nearly 12,000 lieg nightnin strikes are suspected to have sparked the nearly 600 new wildfires. california fire chief tweeting that the worst is not behind them yet and urging californians to double their efforts the look out for themselves and each other. the governor announced that federal aid has been released by president trump for the ongoing recovery efforts there. there are no new answers two days after a deadly police
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shooting in lafayette, louisiana. protests broke out last night. multiple arrests and police usi usi using smoke grenades. i want to warn you the eyewitness video is disturbing. we do not know what happened before the recording starts here. it appears to show the 31 yee 31-year-old at a gas station. >> they tazing him. he not even doing nothing. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. oh, my god. >> according to state police, he was holding a knife and tazers were ineffective that officers first used before pulling their guns.
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statement says the family and the people of lafayette deserve answers and an independent investigation of what was clearly an i appropriate and excessive use of force by the officers. the officers are on paid administrative leave while the louisiana state police bureau of i vest ga investigation takes over the case. the house has approved 25 billion dollar to help the postal service to stay in operation. that's not the end of this story. tomorrow the postmaster general will be back on the hill and democrats say they want some answers here. we'll get you the latest on the mail slowdown, next. a little later, coronavirus on campus. colleges are struggling to stop the spread weeks into the fall semester. whey that are doing to try to keep student and faculty safe. a keep student and faculty safe. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz. the first and only pill of its kind that treats moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis,
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postal service. that aid included some republican support. the burden face bid the u.s. postal service has created an out pouring of support from americans across the country expressing their love for the agency that delivers their mail. as an op-ode in the washington post explains in a nation the mail is delivered to us regardless of our race, religion, sexual orientation or bank account. it's always there for us. obviously you have been watching the vote over the weekend. it was a bipartisan vote. you saw over two dozen republicans in what generally, you know so well, is a very rank and file vote. what that says here is that the plitization of this fair topic of the usps may not be working
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the way the white house wants. >> the post office is incredibly popular. the post office came up as the most popular department there is. nine out of ten us saying it was our favorite. even more astonishing that nine out of ten was democrats and republicans. everybody loves the post office because everybody is depen dent on the post office. >> young and old, is that correct? >> that's right. 40 percent of older people don't use internet so they still use the mail to pay their bills. the more transcriptions you get, the more depen dent you are on the mail. what happened when the mail went haywire in early july is essentially, people started saying, where are my prescriptions? where are my bills?
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where is my note from my grandmother? where is everything? it was just astonishing the level of outpouring, we want our mail. i don't think we have seen anything like this in a long time. >> given the headlines coming out of the white house and the video we have seen in the last month, the little blue boks getting scooped up and put on truck, it's just surreeal. vanity fair headline says it looks like they are targeting blue urban areas. new postal service plan is setting off election alarms. is this still happening? should we still be as alerted in this surreal nature that i mentioned today? >> yes. postmaster dejoy, who never worked for the post office before trump appointed him a few months ago has said he won't do anything else. when he testified to congress on friday shs he didn't say he would backtrack which is major
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concern. we're still missing, high speed sorting, blue boxes, hopefully they will be returned but wu don't know right now. i thoroughlily expecting that tomorrow when he goes before the house he will really be pressed on this. >> what's the next major big step? he'll have to answer tough question. you have house of representatives pushing forward a bill to the senate which is probably going to die there or not be taken up. what's next? >> that's a really good question. we don't really know. we hope the pressure stays on. i'm certainly people don't get their mail and i will say i'm somebody who is missing a lot of mail, people will stay pretty angry about this. the longer this continues, the more it's headache for donald trump. that is actually the one hope we have of getting it solved in the short run is this has become a
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huge, huge issue. i think much to the surprise of republicans. i really don't think they were expecting this to happen. >> all right. thank you so much for your reporting and fur your call and perspective. appreciate it on this sunday. with just 72 days until election day, msnbc is talking to voters about what matters to them. what do voters tell you there? >> reporter: what voters tell me, they are caring about most during this particular election is not just about jobs in this area anymore. this heavily blue collar job area does rely on those jobs moving forward but they are top of mind concerns include coronavirus and racial justice issues. these are all issues that are starting to become more important to them than just the economic crisis at hand. in 2016, we know that trump won
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the state by less than 1 percentage point flipping it to red from traditionally blue the last six elections before that. the spread was much wider. he won by 19 points on the promise of bringing more jobs in. there are more and more buildings becoming vacant partially due to the economic crisis over the last several months and just more buildings over the last four years becoming vacant as well. they almost feel like it's going to be similar to 2016. they don't trust the polls. >> i think pennsylvania is in a similar spot as 2016. i think it's the possibility is endless. >> i think we're still a
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devieddevied -- divided state. e learned in 2016 we can't prus polls. >> i think trump is going to become president again. i think he's going to become president again. i think joe biden and kamala harris, they're putting up a good fight but i don't think that they're going to win. >> reporter: richard one of the reasons you hear ant talk about the fact he doesn't have faith the democratic party can pull this off in pennsylvania is because a lot of voters like him just don't have faith in either candidate. he says he's not going to vote in this current election because he just doesn't feel like either one is really spoken to the issues that he is most concerned about. that's going to be the challenge for the biden camp and the democrats in general is really to engage and up their voter turn out in increase from 71% in 2016. that cost them a million voters in the state of pennsylvania.
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the ongoing issues with trump. his challenge is going to be to convince pennsylvania voters that he can handle the coronavirus pandemic and he can bring jobs back here. guys. >> all right. democrats have made their case saying the president failed the nation on covid-19. now president trump will make his case for why voters should re-elect him. we'll get a preview of the republican national convention. e republican national convention start your day with secret. secret stops sweat 3x more than ordinary antiperspirants. with secret, you're unstoppable. no sweat! try it and love it or get your money back. >> tech: when you've got ...safelite can come to you. >> tech: and you'll get a text when we're on our way. >> tech: just leave your keys on the dash and we'll replace your windshield with safe, no-contact service. >> tech: schedule at safelite.com. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪
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we're awaiting president trump at 5:30, he's expected to speak at the white house about plasma treatment for the coronavirus. we'll have all the details on it. this is you coming a day before the republican convention kicks off. trump campaign senior adviser jason miller joined "meet the press" this morning. >> we'll see an op mitimistic convention this week. you'll see a complete change in
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the perception that i believe that the media tries to tell about what a trump supporter looks like or who a trump supporter is. >> just to add some background to what he might need to accomplish here. we're hearing from trump's sister. she criticizes the pump. the secret recordings from trump's niece were first reported by the washington post. take a listen. >> his [ bleep ] tweet and the lying. i'm talking too freely. you know. the change of stories, the lack of preparation, the lying, holy [ bleep ]. he's appealing to the base. what they're doing with the kids at the border. i mean. in the president responded by saying every day it's something else. who cares. let's bring in don calloway.
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matt gorman. don, i guess if you're in trump campaign here, the ante just keeps on being raised as each day goes on. the difficulties continue. there's the loss of his brother. talking about family. just played the piece of sound from mary ann. then you have one of his master mind, his advisers who put together -- is the ante too high for this republican national convention to meet? >> well, it's a very high standard for anyone to meet. the dnc did a wonderful job of planning our convention this past week. there were some aspects like the roll call that were far more entertaining than would have been under normal non-covid circumstances. i do not see the rnc hitting that standard. 6 of the 12 speakers have the
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last name trump. we have not seen an extensive line up of real deal republican heavy hitters. they're not participating in this. frankly, those of us who are in the d.c. bubble have seen no real and legitimate plans coming forward or offered that there will be a sub stan titive convention. the president speaking every night should be a serious red flag that this will be a train wreck and i'll be watching, if only for that. >> with popcorn. he loves live events. this is the way he largely define himself. taped doesn't fit him. as the two of you know better than i, doing live programming at this level, you don't just go to the supermarket and pull it off of aisle number 16. >> that's right. >> certainly not. the one thing democrats did very, very well was every night of the convention, throughout,
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they had a consistent theme. it really wasn't about policy. it wasn't about trump. what they wanted to get across was joe biden was a decent, compassionate person. they kept the focus on that throughout. it was focused towards swing voters. if nothing else, from this convention, republicans need to have a broad, similar message tlou throughout the entire convention. republicans have been concerned for a while there isn't that broad consistent message coming out of the campaign. we're in the midst of a global pandemic and an economic crisis. all these other issues while they may be important aren't what swing voters are going to be voting on. they need to keep alaszealaser on that. not just one night, not just two, every single night. >> when you look at that every single night narrative here, don, what would democrats be most worried about? would it be the issue of the economy which both you have know so well. polling showing he does quite
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well, president trump does, on that one topic. will that be the nar tirative that's the most difficult? >> that's the narrative that's the most difficult to counter. even that is not oall that. the economy is booming but the stock market is not the economy. most americans don't participate in the stock market. 90% of the wealth of the stock market is located within 10% of americans. while the stock market is booming, the message that democrats have been hammering throughout is the stock market is not the entirety of the economic picture. he can't stay on message through a 30 minute or 15 minute press conference. the republicans have much to fear. in general, america is not fooled by a couple of people who
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will come out and say they support this president. there's no unified message and if i'm a republican, i have lot to be concerned about in this week coming up. >> not just the cablers he might be used to addressing on another network. is he hitting the economic po t point? we have now been in the covid recession for so much time the white collar worker space is now being adversely affected as we know. in the beginning it was mostly those in the service industry, the blue collar where you had to go into place of work to do your job. it's now affecting white collar workers. how can this particular convention offset that reality as the weeks go by? >> it goes back to my other point. many of the speakers are close allies or family of trump.
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no matter who is speaking, the gop base will be voting for him no matter what the the democrat base, they hate him. they won't be voting for him no matter what. your target audience here, swing voters, undecideds, soft biden supporters, soft trump supporters. no one else. i would bait trump at every opportunity. i would try kamala harris, joe biden. i would say whatever just to get him to address me and get off message. >> don and matt, we could talk for a long time. this topic is rich with different elements. thank you both so much for your time today on this sunday.
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as we get ready to watch another unconventional convention, it's important know where conventions gain their importance in our democracy. >> reporter: there was a time when conventions really mattered. >> backers of front running senator john kennedy have begun backing down on their prediction he will capture the nomination on the first ballot. >> i'm asking each of you to be pioneers toward that new frontier. give me your help and your hand and your voice. it's famous today for invoking a new era in american culture. really it was meant to patch over the divisions within kennedy's party and frame the argument for the general
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election. it was a convention master stroke. you can see why a certain type of political enthusistic gets hooked. >> people always say get rid of them. we don't need them. i think we do need them. every four years they need their faith renewed. >> by the time you get to the convention itself, the deal is done. >> karen is a political columnist for the washington post. >> generally, once the primary process took over from the convention in terms of pinging the nominee which really started really happening in the 50s, the convention sort of started losing their purpose. >> these days there are more of a media circus with reporters like me eating up all the little
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developments. >> going towards pence. >> governor pence, nope. >> denied. >> reporter: this year the conventions look like this. >> good evening. >> joe biden will be a champion for free and fair elections. >> reporter: weird cross between a you tube play list and a zoom social studies class. >> four years from now, what will be different? is it going to stay this way? >> i think it will go back because there's enough people who feel like i do. there's something romantic about conventions. >> america is where dreams can come true for all of us. >> there's something as democratic about it. some young girl says i want to be like that. democracy works.
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>> you can watch jacob's full story on the weekend edition of the report by nbc news. it's back to school but hardly back to normal. for colleges and high schools, it's a big experiment in the age of covid-19. we'll take a look at hue it's going so far. tomorrow night, special coverage of the republican national convention. rachel maddow, joy reid and brian williams will bring you coverage monday through thursday starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. n arting at 7:00 p.m. easter here on msnbc. ♪ thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed
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president trump will be holding a news conference in less than an hour. it's expected the president will announce a move for plasma use as means of treatment for the coronavirus. he'll be joined by fda commissioner and health and human services secretary alex azar. back in may the university of notre dame became one of the first schools to announce students will return to campus but on tuesday after week of classes, notre dame announced it was moving back online amid a coronavirus outbreak on campus. is there really any way to make the social college experience safe right now? >> reporter: it's harsh lesson in the haj age of covid. >> it's definitely been very sobering. >> reporter: college campuses are now springing back to life.
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even the best laid plans did not take into account the very essence of college life. at tulane, harsh consequences for any students in violation of school guideline. >> what is the school's plan for dealing with those pop up parties? >> are there stuptdents who may not be totally following the rules? yes. we underscore for them they need to and we will take action if they don't. >> reporter: every student, faculty and staff received a test before returning to campus. >> when you're talk about what is a city of 15 to 20,000 people, there will be positive tests. our goal, really is to identify those and isolate those individuals very quickly. >> reporter: the altered plans are putting a financial strain not only on the schools but the small communities and businesses that rely on them. >> about 60 to 70% of our client base are college students.
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we have lost about 60% of our sales. it's been rough. >> reporter: there's no bigger toll than on the students themselves. he starred his freshman year. now two weeks later, he's headed back home. >> you think that any student should have been on campus in the first place in. >> definitely not. we have been backed into a corner. you come to the school where you don't get your classes. >> reporter: unc has become the nation's cautionary tale. reverses course after days of classes. in north carolina photos like these made the rounds. >> every one was mad at the student body for not taking more responsibility but there's sort of a sense of anger towards the administration for enabling this to happen by allowing students to live on campus. >> reporter: in atlanta, schools like spellman college made the call early.
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all virtual. for senior she says a tough but necessary end to her college career. >> i absolutely respect spellman college and the other universities and colleges for making the right call to keep students at home and considering our health our health first and foremost. >> that was nbc's blayne alexander reporting for us. up next for you, marching for freedom in belarus. we'll get you the latest on mass protests against the names's leader. test on mass protests against the names's leader this is my body of proof. proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. proof i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. proof of less joint pain... ...and clearer skin in psa. humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections. serious and sometimes fatal infections, including tuberculosis, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions,
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welcome back. a battle for belarus. protests continue in the eastern european country where demonstrators are calling for the nation's authoritarian leader to step down. nbc's richard engel spoke with protest percent on ground. take a listen. >> reporter: there's a battle under way for control of of this country, a battle of wills. this today is a show of strength by the demonstrators. they say they are in the majority, and they want to show it. they believe that elections held here were stolen by the
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government and stolen by alexander lukaschenko, and they have come out to say they won't accept it any longer and they want him to step down. there are risks to this. demonstrateors have been arrested, they have been beaten and disappeared, and people here tell me they are frightened, but they have no other choice. it's come to a point where they say that they can no longer back down. the government, alexander lukaschenko, says that this is all a foreign plot, all a foreign conspiracy driven by the united states, driven by nato. he's gone so far as to say nato has deployed troops to the border and that the only person who can protect this nation, protect its honor, protect its sovereignty is him, the president, alexander shenko. nato has said that there's no aggression being stabled towards this country, that troops have not deployed towards this border, but he's clearly trying to whip up an air of hysteria and nationalism, and had does have some supporters.
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not crowds that are anywhere near this size, but there have been some smaller pro-government demonstrations, so there is this tug-of-war going, and where this goes it is very hard to say. the protesters say they will keep it going. it is hard to know how long they can and whether they have the -- the stamina to withstand what they expect will be a strong government crackdown. richard engel, nbc news, minkts. thank you so much, rich. that wraps it up for me. the reverend al sharpton takes over at the top of the hour and will talk to senator amy klobuchar and in 30 minutes the president will be delivering an update on the coronavirus. we'll have that live for you. "politics nation." that's next. you "politics nation." that's next. i wanted more from my copd medicine, that's why i've got the power of 1,2,3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved, once-daily 3 in 1 copd treatment. ♪
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