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of recovered patients to treat patients battling a current infection. today's action will dramatically expand access to the treatment. >> according to the "washington post" convalescent plasma is something that has been given already to 70,000 patients but the evidence is not conclusive about whether it works, when to add m add -- what do we know about what led to the announcement? >> a significant development here, and the timing of it is what is so notable here on the convention eve, the president announcing the significant development in terms of promising research, but really the fda commissioner said that he is not sure how many more studies need to be done until we know how effective that it will be.

that is the major question. the president was asked if he was trying to assert political pressure being able to make the announcement today and he diss missed it out of hand saying no but he argued there was a deep state at play in his own fda which is significant now we see the fda commissioner along side him in the briefing room continuing to praise him and seemingly they were getting along perfectly well. the president made the argument without providing evidence to support it and now is coming out of here with this notable development. you didn't see dr. anthony fauci or deborah birx. who you did see there was spot atlas, a new doctor brought on to advise the president and somebody that eespouses the president's own views rather

than fauci's or birx's. why now. we have know about the effects of convalescent plasma for some time. but a lot of study needs to be done and comes on the heels of the summer as the fda issued an emergency use for hydroxchloroquine that the president touted before revoking it. that is the backdrop of all of this. the president is now coming out with the announcement. what could happen down the line, that is the major question tonight. right. there is a question that a lot of reporters were trying to get to which is whether or not pressure was put on the fda. what can your reporting tell us about that question? >> reporter: it was notable, the president only took a couple of questions. when it was shouted at him by many colleagues in the room he did not address that and neither did the fda commissioner on or the health and human services

administrator. that will be something the white house will have to answer. our reporting shows the president has been trying to accelerate a timeline that would give hope to the american people ahead of the election and has done that. he said there is a possibility vaccine will come before november 3rd and the health experts say it is not very likely. even though you have operation warp speed working as quickly as the name suggests does not mean there will be a vaccine by the end of the year. now indications are we are looking at early 2021. but the president says things that are politically helpful to him. there will be a lot of questions by reporters tomorrow digging into to what led to the political pressure to make the announcement. i would like to bring in dr.

vin gupta. dr. gupta, the president calls this a breakthrough, yet you have been treating many of your patients with this. there have been 70,000 americans that have received the treatment. is it fair to call it a break through? >> no, this is definitely not a breakthrough. we are learning more about this therapy. you know what happens? a patient comes in critically ill with covid-19. i call someone, infectious disease expert, what do you think, should we give the patient plasma. in most cases we try to get plasma into patients that are critically ill on ventilators in the absence of good data. that database now is developing. we don't have the high quality

randomized control trials for plasma that we wish we had to feel more confident. right now this is not breakthrough news or a miracle cure. this is smoke and mirrors and i am concerned how the american people are interpreting this. who knows. >> on top of that it makes it more complicated to conduct the trials in the way that you want to try them given now more people will have access to this. >> in some cases this really helped and in other cases it faded out. the current data they have presented that the fda talks about is a result of an expanded

access program where they had the only difference some got convalescent plasma had a higher level of antibodies and others a lower level. the trouble is that we don't know how it stands up against giving placebo and big trials like that are going on now. by making the plasma more available. it is already available and making it more available fewer people are likely to partake in randomized control trials which leads to us taking longer to figure out the drug we are investing so much in is helpful as a patient. >> dr. gupta, people want a cure

and treatment for the virus. they want to see the other side of this. what would be a break through. what are the efforts that need the money, research, fast tracking we are seeing tonight for convalescent plasma? >> i will speak for the doctor here because we have felt the same way. we want treatments for our patients so that we can move past this. we need a randomized control trial to see how useful is plasma. we don't think it is harmful. how useful is it? we want to know to educate other clinicians about this is what it looks like and are the therapies available to us. rams remdesivir is not that magic bullet.

>> you heard the questions the reporters were shouting at the president when he was exiting the room, whether the white house put pressure on the fda to fast track the move. as a medical professional and a scientist what does it mean in terms of faith in the fda and in this treatment? >> i feel like the president stepped in to our lane of researchers and doctors. when you have this perception that the president can pressure the fda to make an announcement they were not ready to make and the evidence was not ready for primetime it sews doubt from the side of the public about whether or not the fda is doing their

job. if they are doing everything they can to release safe products and vaccines, it creates this doubt and right now we are waiting for a new vaccine, to battle with the new vaccine and by seeing this, it is basically keeping people from accepting a new vaccine. it is hurting the president and all of us every time the president inserts conspiracy theories and doubt about public health authority it is taking us two steps back in the pandemic response. all right. thank you both. up next the democrats hit him hard calling the president a failure at the convention and now president trump is ready to hit back. what to expect from the president at the republican convention. we talked about it a lot, the importance of winning the latino vote. we are going to show you the case president trump is making to those voters. president trumg to those voters.

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covid-19 continues to reshape the political landscape and maybe no coincidence that the president's news conference is coming on the opening night of the republican national convention. after a week of democrats waging frontal assaults on nearly every aspect of his presidency and the handling of the pandemic. trump will try to wrestle back control of the narrative, his task to sell himself as a leader

where the country he leads ranks below the rest of the world when it comes to handling and containing the virus. more than 5 1/2 million americans have tested positive for the virus and more than 177,000 have died. many jobless americans are wondering how they will feed their family. and other countries are returning to a semblence of normal life many american kids won't be returning to the classroom any time soon. the number of colleges already opened canceling in-person classes. the president is throwing himself a reality show style convention and casting himself as the star. trump will be breaking multiple traditions. he is planning to appear all four nights rather than just at the end with some of the appearances in front of the white house, flirting with a violation of the hatch act and using literal reality show producers that he knows from the

apprentice. while democrats look to successfully counter program the convention, the president's ally says he is ready for his big moment and that a joe biden victory in november is not a foregone conclusion. >> we only need to win one of the upper midwest and upper atlantic states to re-elect the president. we have many more pathways to victory than the democrats do. i would rather be in our shoes than in theirs right now. >> tim miller, and former rnc deputy press secretary and reporter at the guardian. kenya, tell me what your reporting tells us about the timing of the announcement? >> i think what we are seeing here is that the president is trying to get ahead of what will be, you know, a worsening fall. a worsening fall with the virus and a momentum shift in terms of

energy from the dnc convention and speeches. this is getting ahead of the rnc trying to build up momentum and speaking about a party he is against than what policy he is for. >> tim, is it like getting ahead of the rnc and responding to what happened last week at the dnc. a number of big speakers pummelled him on the handling of the crisis and comes out today and calls it a breakthrough treatment. you just heard from two doctors that said while it is a treatment, it is by no means a breakthrough. why come out with this tonight in advance of tomorrow's first day of the rnc? >> his whole career he has been a get rich quick schemester. he used to sell fake vitamins. this is what trump university and the trump institute is

about. look at his whole career. he thinks of it as a get rich quick answer or a p.r. answer to every problem. that is why he wants an answer to the pandemic. he is not capable or interested in doing the work that it talks to resolve the crisis. he just does what he has always done. a happy talk pitch man and it is just what we saw with hydroxchloroquine all over again. here is the sad part. maybe this is a useful therapy or a therapy that is helpful. but he lost so much credibility that we can't even get good news about the virus without questioning whether the president is being straight with us. >> tim, i want to get your reaction to some new sound. >> tim, the white house

responded with a statement that said in part every day it is something else. who cares. a spokesman for mary trump tells nbc news the recordings were legally made in new york state. how does it play out? >> i don't think the president's sister told us anything that we don't know. but there is value to continually hearing from people who have been supporters and defenders of the president. the president's sister hasn't been speaking out against him. this is her speaking honestly to his niece about how her brother is a fraud. we thought miles taylor came out speaking about how terrified he would be of a second term. we saw this week with steve

bannon, how much of a fraud and scheme he was running with the fake wall. we don't need to win to beat donald trump in november. but this chip, chip, chip of news from people that have credibility like donald trump's sister. when they are speaking the truth that is breaking through with some people. >> one of the tensions of the dnc is the push and pull of mobilization versus persuasion. it is my sense it will be all about mobilization and firing up his base. how do they do that? >> we are seeing it right now. the president returning to racist rhetoric. we have seen the president

attempting to feel not a part of the conversation. we follow it with a dnc that spoke to just that. the country is changing and changing without them and changing at their expense and the president wants to speak to those that lost their job or not wanting to wear a mask. they see their independence and themselves and the path they want the country to go in reflected in the president. they want to speak to that. he is doing that right now with his out tlt reach and with the bizarre announcement. possibly another example of a get rich scheme that we will not hear from or see him denied even a week from now.

>> thank you both for spending time with us. up next, barak obama, hillary clinton and joe biden making direct appeals to young voters and now democrats can energize their base and what republicans are doing to peel some of that support away. when the going gets tough, the president returns to fear. why sagging poll numbers over the coronavirus and the economy could push the trump campaign to a familiar place, the culture wars. campaign to a familiar place, the culture wars in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. i faced reminders of my hep c every day. i worried about my hep c. but in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured. mavyret is the only 8-week cure for all types of hep c. before starting mavyret your doctor will test... ...if you've had hepatitis b which may flare up and cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you've had hepatitis b, a liver or kidney transplant,... ...other liver problems, hiv-1, or other medical conditions,... ...and all medicines you take. don't take mavyret with atazanavir... ...or rifampin, or if you've had certain liver problems.

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country today is from our young people. they are speaking to the injustice that has growing up in america, economic injustice, racial injustice, environmental injustice. i hear the voices, if you listen you can hear them too. this year's democratic national convention made direct appeals to young voters. it is a steep hill to climb. 62% of voters under the age of 30 disapprove of president trump but it is not stopping the trump campaign from appealing directly to them. 43% of voters 18-25 say they have seen the trump campaign's digital ads. they are getting in front of young voters. what do democrats need to do to hold their support.

and the author of okay boomer, let's talk, how my generation got left behind. set the stage. what are the life experiences that shaped the way that this generation thinks about politics and what they want to hear from both parties. >> yeah. we are talking about millennials and gen zers. rising cost of student loans, health care, housing and systematic barriers. is a candidate pushing affordable child care. will they make it if we get sick we do not bankrupt our entire family. we want to see ourselves represented too. young people are radd under

represented in congress. but issues are being quite ignored by both parties. >> ben, what do you think that democrats got right at the convention? >> i think that you heard it in the snippet from joe biden. we just heard the open of the segment. four crises that are facing young americans. the covid health care, the economic crisis, the climate crisis and the racial justice crisis. we saw the dnc really nail down those four things that the party will take action on as a way to get young people engaged in the election and not only did we hear it from trump or biden or hillary clinton. youth activists and bernie sanders and michelle obama. i think the rnc will tell them to shut up and go home.

>> the alliance for youth action conducted a survey and found the majority of young voters under the age of 25 haven't been contacted by the biden campaign however they have been contacted by the trump campaign through digital ads. i want to know if that surprises you and what it tells you about the republican strategy. you heard that republicans are not going to have a message for young people, i don't know. the fact that they are showing up in digital ads makes me think they are not right. >> the republican party knows they need enough people to sit out to be on the cusp of victory. these are young persuadable biden voters. when you see so many of the voters that have not heard from joe biden and have heard from

the trump kbcampaign we have a major problem here. >> there will be a lot of people watching saying why isn't it enough for young progressives to vote against donald trump? >> i think there is a myth. the line that the young people are not getting their needs met because they don't vote. it is true young people vote less often than older folks. but you look at who showed up in 2018 you saw a huge surge among the young and of course we are going to show up and vote against donald trump. we want to hear what you are doing for us. millennials are now the largest proportion of adults in the united states.

we are pushing 40, the oldest of us. the things folks under 40 are asking for are beneficial to the entire country with a rising and expanding middle class and the younger folks do not face the tremendous systematic hardships that kept millennials from achieving basic life stability. >> thank you for reminding me we will be millennials forever but we will not be young forever. anita young, a top biden advisor said the young left is important but so are older white people above the age of 65 because they actually gave the election to donald trump last time. what is your reaction to that? >> there are more of us than there are at them. we show up at half the age of older folks. that is why when young people show up they have no choice but

to listen to us and they think it is important what jill mentioned. the republicans are not giving young people anything to be excited for. i don't actually think that donald trump is running a re-election campaign. he is running a power grab. the ads you see in her poll talking about are designed to get young people to stay home. they don't want to us vote. anita dunn in that quote reflects that we have so many more barriers to overcome in order to cast a ballot. that is why we individual to do it. that is why we are working our tails off to make sure that we have record turn out like we did in the midterms. >> take a listen. >> not an option and we cannot sit this one out. we have to vote like our lives and the world depend on it because they do. the only way to be certain of the future is to make it ourselves.

>> sarah, do celebrities like this, like prince royce make a difference when you are doing your outreach? >> they are certainly nice to have but that is not how you run a campaign by celebrities saying turn out and vote. young people want to hear from the candidates that are running to share what is the future they are going to be working along side young people to create? if can you imagine if the biden campaign centered young people as part of the strategy to win. people are taking to the streets to fight for the humanity of all of us, our planet and to make sure that we don't have to worry about the police walking in the streets or worry about the water we are drinking. that is a future young people are fighting for. it is a missed opportunity for the biden campaign not to center them in outreach. what young people are fighting for will benefit all of us.

>> all right. ben, sarah and jill, thank you all. states like florida and arizona are going to be crucial in this election cycle and the latino vote will play a big role in picking up the winner. we will talk about the case that donald trump will be making to them. e that donald trump will be making to them

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and "the wall street journal" are showing latino voters are supporting biden over trump. but latino support for biden is not as high as it was hillary clinton in 2016. trump won't win the latino vote and doesn't need to. all he needs to do is to persuade enough latinos to stay with him or to stay home. what will his message be to them this week? a professor of history at northwestern authority and author of a shaping of an american political identity from nixon to trump. who are these hispanic republicans? >> thank you so much for having me. these hispanic republicans who support trump are all over the country, mexican-americans in arizona and in texas, puerto ricans in florida and new york. they are all over the country and it would be a mistake to

stereotype them as only people involved in cuban exile politics or catholics. >> as we so often do. what is appealing about donald trump? is it his policy or persona or both? >> i think it is his policy that many of them have believed that has been favorable to them. i think there is a long tradition of hispanics voting for republicans since 1972, about 3 of 10 voted for the republican presidential candidate. i think at this point there is a long, deep loyalty of hispanics. many have been voting for republicans for a long time. there are also policy positions related to venezuela or chris i christianity. >> when you watch the rnc this week which appeals will you be

looking for to latino voters? >> he has the lieutenant governor of florida speaking and a woman whose son was killed by an illegal immigrant in arizona. i think that he will be harping on many of the issues. i think there will be an economic argument, want idea that until covid hit the economy was better for latinos than it had been. i think there will be a strong anti-socialism message from many of the speakers. i think that will speak to latinos in political and a religious freedom message as well. >> trump's disapproval for his handling of covid among the latino voters is at 70%. how much is coronavirus going to play into their thinking? >> i think it could play into their thinking quite a bit. small business owners who the trump campaign has seen as a real group of strength, they

have been really affected by the coronavirus. 85% had to apply for business loans. many had to lay off employees. many have had their businesses really harmed by coronavirus. i think that they could be rethinking things right now. like i said -- go ahead, i'm sorry. >> finish your thought. >> i was going to say. the vote has been extremely durable since the 1970s even as the republican party moved far to the right on issues like immigration and border patrol. even though an event like the coronavirus might not dampen their support. >> have you seen any attrition in the last four years? >> some people, i think, have questioned their support. i think that not everyone loves

his tone, but even the people that i have spoken to who may not love donald trump as an individual have been very reluctant to abandon the republican party and they have said things to me like even if we do not love him, we are going to vote for the republican party because we don't want to let one man ruin the movement that we have built over the course of decades. >> it leads me to the question that i was going to ask. is there then damage to the party in the long-term based on the trump years when it comes to the latino voters specifically. i think you may have said it. it continues. it goes on. there is no real change. >> look, i think there certainly could be. i think there is always growing attention to the latino vote. this year we know that latinos are the second largest block of voters among all-americans. i think the republican party will have to do serious

reckoning abouts it approach to recruiting hispanics whether donald trump wins or loses. they have consistently won 30% of the vote. i think they will have to ask themselves if that 30% will be enough among a demographic that, you know, many project could represent a minority of voters at some point in the future. you know, 30% of the vote is not exactly a recipe for success in the long-term. >> all right geraldo, thank you so much for your time. up next, the president has tried to use a culture war to stoke division and fear before. will it work like it did in 2016 or will it be a 2018 style backlash? we will talk about it next. backlash we will talk about it next wayfair has way more ways to renovate your home, from inspiration to installation. like way more vanities perfect for you. nice. way more unique fixtures and tiles.

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>> i think what you are going to see is a different depiction of america. what we saw from the democrats, their entire convention was bashing donald trump and it was a dark, dismal and depressing vision of america they presented. we will have the opposite. ours will be hopeful and patriotic and we want people at the end of our four days to be reminded that america continues to be the greatest, most exceptional nation in the world. laura trump describing what is in store for this week's

republican national convention, hopeful, patriotic, but for whom. in addition to speeches from the president, speeches, plural. there are several non-lawmakers spl slated to speak including the st. louis couple who were recorded waving their guns at black lives matter protesters. it is clear that president trump is stoking the culture war drums to appeal to his base. but how will it appeal to those that decide him culturally out of step with this moment. joining me now is a senior research faculty member at the university of north carolina and jennifer horn is the former chair of the republican party of new hampshire and the co-founder of the lincoln project. hopeful, patriotic, for whom will the message land? >> well, first we have to take them at their word that hopeful and patriotic is something that

donald trump and this republican party can actually execute. i am not sure that i actually believe that. but to the extent that the die hard trump and the republican voter will think that this convention is hopeful and inspirational and patriotic relies in great part on their willingness hopeful for the donald trump voter who is today the likely republican voter, those two things now significantly over lap and i think leverages the idea that there is some dangerous other, whether it's an immigrant, whether it's protesters, whether it's people of color or women or femme it

might end up being hopeful. >> jennifer, this morning white house chief of staff mark m meado meadows dodged questions. >> i find it awe powepologizing have a list of top 20s, the first question in a press briefing would be about qanon. i had to google it. it's not what the president is talking about. i don't know anything about it. let's look at domestic terrorism and antifa and quit spending time on 81% of americans don't know what you're talking about. >> jennifer, between embracing qanon and this list of speakers, i want to know what you think the message is that republicans are sending. >> well, it's certainly not a message of hope and inclusion. that's for sure. frankly, if mark meadows doesn't know who qanon is, he isn't

qualified to have the job he does. this president embraced qanon is a dangerous divisive conspiracy theory and to have the president of the united states, the leader of the free world embrace it and embrace those republican candidates for congress who also embrace it, it's a dangerous thing for our country. so when you think -- hear what mark meadows said and look at the list of speakers, it clear the president is embracing division and the us versus them messaging to try to rally his base and try to win this election and as i said, it's dangerous and frankly, it's incredibly disappointing for me as a republican to see how many of our elected republicans are trying to ignore this and brush it off like it's no big deal. >> democrats were clearly trying to draw out this contrast. i wonder if you think they succeeded and if that's enough to motivate the leaders they

need to move. >> i think the democrats actually pulled off a well executed convention given all of the constraints. they pulled off an excellent convention. whether or not that is enough to motivate a democratic voter at the extent they need to be motivated, everyone is preparing themselves for a republican party that is not going to easily relinquish power. they are preparing themselves for voter disenfranchisement and tinkering at the polls and out right stealing of elections and votes so they want to overwhelm the polls this season. i'm not sure a convention actually could do that. i think that what will motivate the democratic party is looking at the republican convention. seeing that stark contrast between what the democrats offer and what is being proposed for the next four years if we were to endure or survive four more years of a trump administration

might do what the democratic convention actually could not do. so to that extent, the republican convention may be a boom for the democrats, but i think that the real contrast to be made has been made over the campaign. it's not necessarily the convention. it is how donald trump has governed that draws the starkest comparison for voters. >> jennifer, we know he's going to be hitting all the culture war buttons hearing about black lives matter and defunding the police and the second amendment and immigration. democrats are counter programming what do they need to be saying or doing to contend with what the president is saying especially knowing that they're on an asemim meimetric . >> what they should do is more of the same, frankly. i thought their messaging was very inclusive and frankly, a lot of it was targeted for those

soft republicans who know they can't support this president but haven't quite figured out if they can take the next step and support joe biden. i'd like to see a lot of focus on inclusion, on, you know, kind of embracing and empowering minorities and women. you know, you want to see more, you know, more messaging on real genuine patriotic issues of unity and bringing us together but frankly, i think the most effective issue that the republicans -- i'm sorry, that the democrats could embrace right now is this president's gross mishandling of the pandemic and the 176,000 american lives lost. those are not just democrats or republicans or anything else. those are americans and families suffering right now and i think that it is the issue that is going to lead voters frankly in this election. >> all right. thank you both for spending some time with us.

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