elections. and 57 years after the march on washington, a new commitment march called get your knee off our necks to organizer reverend al sharpton. "velshi" starts now. >> good morning, it's saying, august 29th. i'm ali velshi. we begin with a moment of racial reckoning, which has once again gripped the nation, this time kenosha, wisconsin where protesters are calling for justice and police reform and yet another shooting black man, jacob blake shot seven times in the back by point blank range where he tried to enter his car where his children were waiting for him. demonstrators remain mostly peaceful after days of unrest.

earlier, an echo of the latest incidents made its way to the streets of our capital, the get your knee off our nexts protests, the day that 57 years earlier dr. martin luther king jr. led the first march on washington. jacob blake's father wasin the community and the divide facing the nation which hasn't changed enough in 60 years. >> there are two systems of justice in the united states. there's a white system and there's a black system. the black system ain't doing so well. but we're going to stand up every black person in the united states is going to stand up! we're tired!

i'm tired of looking at cameras and seeing these young black and brown people suffer! >> now, the stark contrast between jacob blake sr. that he spoke of was never more evident. yesterday 17-year-old kyle rittenhouse was charged with felony murder for killing two protesters as part of a shooting spree in wisconsin. on friday, he waived his initial court appearance at an extradition hearing in illinois. his legal team won a postpo postponement for 30 days. he traveled from illinois to protest in wisconsin. he's facing several felony charges, including intentional and reckless homicide. this shows his actions tuesday night in kenosha. his lawyer says the shooting was an act of self-defense. this is a video of kyle

rittenhouse shot a short time later that night. he's seem walking with the firearm as police approach after allegedly having shot three people, two of whom were later pronounced dead. what did the police do? you can see it right there on the video. nothing it seems. he wasn't picked up until 12 hours later. instead, jacob blake, who according to his family is paralyzed from the waist down after being shot seven times by police in the back was chained to his hospital bed on what was called an outstanding warrant from july. here health insurance what his father told my colleague, joy reid. >> once they didn't succeed in killing him, now they have to besmudge him so they came up with old warrants that were misdemeanor warrants but it gave them the right to have custody of his body as long as they want

it. >> after appeal to the kenosha county sheriff's department, blake's lawyers were able to get the outstanding misdemeanor warrant vacated. as of this morning blake is no longer in police custody or shackled to his hospital bed. also on friday we found out the identities of the two other kenosha police department officers involved in blake's on henning. already known was selven year rhett van rusten sheskey, vincent arenas and britney meronek. joining me is mandela barnes. lieutenant governor, thank you for being with me this morning. what's the latest on this case that you know about? >> i just know it's an ongoing

investigation. i'm finding out information as quick as you are. >> what'ses reason the police are giving, arguing, stating for legally having shot jacob blake in the black seven times? >> these are the arguments you hear all the time. there's always a reason, always an excuse and too often bad behavior is dismissed. that's why we're in the situation that we're in. if we had the accountability we deserved as elected officials and as community members in general, as the public, we wouldn't be in the place that we are with this racial reckoning. if it continues down this path where there's this effort to justify every police shooting, even when they're on camera and it is so visibly wrong, then that just speaks to the deeper problems and issues that we have. i talk all the time about the

need for policing to be reformed. some of this stuff is indefensible. you can look at this shooting of jacob blake or so many others where they always try to find a way to defend it, to justify it. there are right-wing talk show hosts here in wisconsin who are defending the teen-age shooter who killed two people. it's beyond me right now. the lengths that people will go, the reach that people will extend themselves to come up with whatever to devalue folks' lives. >> i know there are certain things you are talk to us about and there may be certain things you're not in the course of the investigation, but a few things stand out that i'm curious about. the idea that a man who his family says is paralyzed from the waist down but was certainly in a hospital bed was shackled because of what his father said are outstanding misdemeanor warrants. the country learned a lot about

this during ferguson, missouri, because lots of people have outstanding warrants that get fiends or tickets paid that turned into warrants. in the context of having been shot by the police during the course of an arrest, that seemed to not be in touch with an understanding of the moment. >> it feels very excessive. that's the thing that the governor and myself found out about around the time when everybody else found out. we were asked at the press conference that we had when we were in kenosha a couple days ago, the governor immediately con determined it and obviously felt the same way about him being shackled to a bed after experiencing such horrific -- such a horrific incident. being shot seven times, that is more than enough. that was outrageous in and of itself. and for people to see that excessive use of force then have an excessive use of restraint afterwards, it's not like he

could get up and go anywhere, that was another thing that another shock piece of this whole saga. >> abraham kendi tweets about this. he said black communities paralyzed economically fighting hard to recover but inexplicably still shackled. lieutenant governor, what do you know about the argument about this knife? there was apparently a knife in the floor board of his car that we heard he had told police about. do you know how this figures into the shooting? >> i honestly have no idea. the only part i know is the same things that i've heard, where mr. blake, you know, told police that there was a knife, giving them the warning. we saw that with castile who said he had a firearm and said he was legally allowed to carry

a firearm and we saw him shot and killed in minnesota. >> that's supposed to be mitigating when you tell authorities that you have a weapon either on you or in your possession. >> it should be. it should be. but this situation shouldn't even have gotten as far as it did. they wanted to prevent him from getting into his vehicle. there were three officers on scene that could have prevented one person from getting into the vehicle. it would be incredibly wild to assume that he had some assume human strength or he was just able to get away from three officers who likely had tasers, batons, whatever other means to restrain a person. and so it's just really difficult. and it feels like, you know, it feels like we're being gaslit when we see these things in broad daylight, it seems like we're being told to not believe our eyes and not trust what we all see and come up with the sort of general conclusion

because most people have the same idea when they see this, most people are shocked when they see this video. and when i say "most," i mean the overwhelming majority of people. people are uncomfortable seeing this kind of stuff. and i still find it incredibly, you know, distressing for people to not just step up and say, yeah, mistakes were made, we want to correct those mistakes. i think that is the fact forward to repair relations with police officers and communities. it's for somebody to finally step up and say, yeah, the wrong thing happened, it shouldn't have happened and we want to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> that's the important part of this thing. mistakes will happen, police may not be trained as they should. there's a degree to which we have to stand the difficulties of their jobs but it does feel like excuses are starting to be made instead of doing the right thing but we'll follow it closely, find out what this knife business was all about.

lieutenant governor mandela barnes is from wisconsin. i'm joined by democratic congresswoman gwen moore of wisconsin, a member of the house ways and means acommittee and a member of the black caucus. you are a regular guest on our show. i'm sorry to say this time we're talking about a tragedy in your home state. i want to understand what you understand to have happened and what should happen now after the shooting of jacob blake. >> well, thank you so, ali. southeastern wisconsin is my home. i was born literally three miles away from kenosha. so i'm very familiar with the community, have so many friends there, served with the mayor, the county executive, cruiser, the state senator and i are dear

friends. i have friends in the community. so this is personal for me. and the thing that i also understand is that we have really got to keep our eyes on the prize because kenosha is being manipulated and used. this is a frtragedy i think tha has been stoked, ali, by the stoker in chief, you know, bottom line is that there are many, many credible reports of folk calling the sheriff and volunteering to be vigilantes, and this young man coming into the community because it fits into the play book and narrative of this year's campaign for the presiden presidency, that somehow these protests have to be responded with with this kind of force. and it's just heart breaking to see my beloved home turf

trampled in injustice in this way. i do think that this death is once again amplified the need to break through some of the institutional protections that police have. i mean, you know, i'm learning a lot more, too, about the contractual protections that these police officers have and that's why i think that it's time to pass our justice and policing bill that you're very familiar with in congress. it goes directly to these issues that erupted in kenosha. >> but how much influence can you have at congress. it is important, symbolic and there are certain things in the justice and policing bill that will be very helpful, including agreed-upon terms and measurements of thousand things are done. ultimately is this not tens of

thousands of local issues in america that require cultural change on the part of americans, maybe at the ballot box, to say this is really a problem. jacob blake may be paralyzed from the rest of his life from the waist down and kyle rittenhouse walked by police with a semiautomatic rifle and shot possibly three people. >> that's the horror of every black mother in america, that your son is going to leave the house and walking while black, talking while black and sleeping while black and this will happen. this is another moment to try to make sure that we push toward getting the justice that we need, ali. i mean, we had emmett till. i was alive when emmett till happened. my dad would never let me go to mississippi with him to his home state because of emmett till. who is this emmett till, i was

wondering. >> wow. >> and we've had george floyd and now here we are again with jacob blake. and i just want to tear a page out of his mom's play book. you've said it, we got to keep our eyes on the prize because like reverend dr. martin luther king jr. said who headlined that march on washington 57 years ago yesterday said, you know, one of his favorite comments that i recall is that we've got to march on these ballot boxes so that we can elect people who will do justice, you know, and show love and mercy. if we can hand a bottle of water to a murderer on a hot summer night in kenosha, we don't have to shoot a black man in the back seven times in front of his children and then shackle him to a bed. we -- there's a whole lot to

unpack. just like i said, there's layers of this. >> there's a whole lot. congresswoman, may we speak many tombs and may we not speak in the wake of these things many times, the death of a black man at the hands of police. i thank you as always for joining us and for the work that you're doing. congresswoman gwen moore of wisconsin. we have some very sad news overnight. actor chadwick boseman has died after a four-year battle with colon cancer. his death came as a shock because he never spoke publicly about having the illness and starred in several movies sense being diagnosed. he is survived by his wife and parents. he staffed in the marvel blockbust blockbust blockbuster "black panther." it became the first super here your film to be nominated as best picture at the academy of

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the deadly storm that was once hurricane laura is now punishing the middle part of the country. the system continues to unleash wind and rain as it makes its way across the ohio valley and mid-atlantic regions, leaving at

least 15 people dead in louisiana and texas. president donald trump will visit the hard-hit region later today to see firsthand the massive destruction after approving a disaster declaration making recovery funding available. 8,000 homes were destroyed in louisiana and texas, more than 14,000 people have sought shelter from the red cross and other agencies in the middle of coronavirus. if that wasn't enough, residents in the city of west lake, indiana, are dealing with a chemical spill after a fire broke out at a chemical plant. it's a plant that makes household cleaners, including chlorine. just across the state line in texas, the so-called golden triangle, home to the greatest concentration of refineries, chemical manufacturers and other industrial plants warning that state regulators said they may have released millions of pounds of pollutants and greenhouse gasses into the air in recent

day as they shut down operations in advance of the hurricane. the local "beaumont texas enterprise" saying plants in the path of hurricane laura shut down operations to keep workers safe and prevent worse e conditions but emergency emissions still spew a significant amount of pollutants such as nitrogen oxides, carbon dioxide and volatile organic compounds well above the facilities' allowed limits. good morning. these are your people. i don't think we're talking out

of school to say some of those towns that i was in yesterday, right in the line, in the eye of that hurricane, are not uniquely prosperous places. some of them are people who live simple lives in simple homes that are now destroyed. >> absolutely, ali. we get the promise of all the jobs of all he's plant and then we don't get them. still the second poorest state in america, we get to suck down about the release of all those toxins into the air, no prior warning to the citizens. those microparticles can get embedded into the lung. where that storm hit is the biggest number of covid-19 in

louisiana. we have a virus outbreak, and this hurricane and this pollutant released in the air. this is only going to make things worse on people's health. they did not tell people ahead of time so they could avoid being outside or even leaving. no warning to the people. >> one of the things you and i often talk about in hurricanes when they hit some of these coastal communities, particularly in western louisiana, is the people who don't leave. and some people don't leave because they're stubborn, some don't leave because they want to get back to their property quickly, some don't leave because they've got elderly people and pets in their home and some people, general honore, you always point out, don't leave because leaving is expensive. for people who live paycheck to paycheck or sometimes assistance check to assistance checks, they can't take the two tanks of gas, they can't take a hotel or motel for several days and they may not have family to which they

can go within driving distance. it's always forgotten that some people are just stuck. >> yeah, they're stuck. and the state did a pretty good job, i must say, in organizing rides for people, this concept of rides for those without cars that needed a ride, the state did a good job of moving people out. with you there were unnecessary people who stayed that didn't need to be there. there's an assisted living home in lake charles, some 40-some people, elderly, needing assistance were given the option by the operator if they wanted to stay. you know what, they stayed and then the louisiana national guard had to go in the next day after the winds went down and evacuate all of them. that's stupid. that should not happen again in those type of situations. that being said, this storm has destroyed much of cameron parish again and the impact on lake charles, it will be years, a

decade before they recover. i hope when the president come today he will encourage fema to move up -- and hud to move at a faster pace. the home in puerto rico have not been replaced. that's three years ago. the homes in virgin islands not replaced. homes in houston not replaced because the administration is dragging you know what and not getting this done. very slow recovery of homes from harvey, maria and irma. >> beaumont, which was flooded by harvey, there are still people who are not back in their homes. so these things are not -- they pass our news cycle but they don't pass the lives of the people affected by it. lieutenant generous el honore is the former command are of joint task force katrina. coming up, the continued assault on the united states postal service. but first an update on my new

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we're just about two months away from our next presidential election and the current u.s. president has been systematically working to undermine our trust in our own election process. he's taken aim at mail-in voting, planted seeds of doubt in the minds of americans over the possibility of the election being fair. according to a poll taken this month, nearly 24%, almost a quarter of americans lack confidence in the election results, even being counted accurately. president donald trump has caused so much concern that both lawmakers and major group protecting elections have spoken out, issuing warnings. the carter center that works to

ensure peaceful elections around the world said it will turn its focus inward for the first time and monitor america's upcoming presidential election. president obama warned americans that trump, quote, will tear our democracy down if that's what it takes to win, end quote, and in what may be the starkest terms, hillary clinton suggested the democratic presidential nominee joe biden should not concede come november. >> we have to have our own teams of people to counter the force of intimidation that the republicans and trump are going to put outside polling places. this is a big organizational challenge, but at least we know more about what they're going to do. joe biden should not concede under any circumstances because i think this is going to drag out and eventually i do believe he will win if we don't give an inch and if we are as focused

and relentless as the other side is. >> a former first lady, senator and presidential nominee saying the new presidential nominee should refuse to concede. these are unprecedented times. we've never had concerns that our democratic process may actually fail ahead of an election or our current leader may not leave office in what we've come to know as a peaceful transfer of power. we spent decades upon decades trying to teach the rest of the world to be just like us and yet it's taken remarkably little, remarkably little for doubt to be cast on our presidential election. these flashing red signs should concern you. my next guest said "president donald trump is hoping to take america from self-enforcing democracy to competitive authoritarianism where elections

are neither fair nor free. with me now, former peach writer for president obama. david litt, thank you for being with me. you write "american democracy has always been more fragile than we'd like to admit. from the jim crow south to the heyday of big city political machines, politician who is have been able to undermine the democratic process have proved willing to do so but despite countless new threats and setbacks, democracy in america has prevailed." you've got a hopeful line in there. you feel that in the end the arc of democracy bends toward fairness. >> that's right. thank you having me on this morning, ali. i think if you look at american history, it is certainly true that a civil rights activist like the late john lewis or a

laboringer in a big city in the turn of the 20th century, they would happily trade places with us. at the same time what you're saying is that donald trump is trying to take the worst of the jim crowestate-sponsored autocracy and combine it with the big city political ma scenes that we saw in cities and the country in the 1960s and 1970s. it is true during my lifetime we've never faced the threat of a stolen election in this way but americans before us did and they beat back those threats. we should recognize this president will steal the election if he's able and we should make sure he isn't able to do it. >> david, i just want to ask you about another quote in which you say trump benefits on having cast doubt on the u.s. postal

service. when americans lose faith in the electoral process, voter turn yow slumps. where does this all lead you? where does it lead you to believe we are going to be in less than two months from now? >> ali, i think you're describing a really important challenge for my fellow democrats, which is trump wants you to give up. the reason he is attacking the postal service, the reason he's bragging about what he's doing is he wants voters to look at the system and say this isn't fair, my vote won't really be counted so why even bother participating. but it's the opposite. in america we still have the ability, we the people, have the ability to force a fair election, we have the ability to char change our leadership but it takes overwhelming participation. if you want to know how powerful your vote is, you don't need to listen to someone like me who

worked for a democratic white house. look at how hard the president of the united states and his republican allies are trying to keep you from voting. that's how much your vote matters and that's why everyone needs to go out and vote and i would add everyone needs to go out and vote early because that's the best way to keep some of this kind of manipulation from actually working. >> you have four ways that you want to protect the integrity of american elections. point four is use widespread civil disobedience as a last result for self-enforcing democracy. are you at all worried about the degree to which republicans certainly last week at the rnc politicized that protest? >> of course i am worried about the way that republicans are politicizing protests and the way they're recasting protests as unamerican. but when i talk to a lot of political scientists as i was working on this article, it made me rethink the way that we conceive of protest. mass protest is not a sign that democracy has broken down. it is a sign that democracy's in

trouble but mass protest over an illegitimate election, if that's what occurs, is a sign that democracy is working. it's a sign that the people are demanding a fair election. and so i absolutely think that if certain triggers are viola d violated, not if one side loses fairly, but if, for example, millions of ballots aren't counted because the president attacked the mail, then the last resort of democracy is the people standing up and demanding fair and free elections. and one thing that gives me hope is that so far when the president has attacked our protests, when he has tear gas protesters, when they were throwing protesters into unmarked vans, we're didn't give up. the result was even more protests and that's what you see in countries with democracy ultimately wins out, even if it's difficult. >> david, good to see you. thank you for getting up good and early for us. david litt, former speech writer for president obama and author of "democracy, why it works and

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been peaceful. we monitor and bring you any news as it develops. >> residents of washington, d.c. pay more per capita in income taxes than any other place in the country, yet the district has no voting power. as we saw just months ago, under current will you, washington, d.c. doesn't even have control over its own national guard. it can be occupied by military forces at the president's decree. this is partly why democrats favor d.c. statehood. i can't only guess what republicans think. there's a reason for that. they chose not to share ideas during the republican national convention. democrats didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about their platform last week and i'll bet you've never looked at a party platform in your life. you might not know where to find the democratic party platform but it does exist. it's 91 pages long.

the table of contents is three pages long. there was a row burbust process arguments before development. these days the republican party debates nothing. what donald trump says is what the party stands for. in fact, this year's republican national convention did not even include a platform. opting instead to pass a one-page resolution stating that the party, quote, has and will continue to enthusiastically support the president's america first agenda end quote. put another way, republicans chose not to bother with policy details and instead default to simply believing in trump. it all might sound trivial but a platform is more than just a string of policies. it's supposed to be a robustly argued, agreed-upon set of principles governing the way the party moves forward, the agenda, if you will, that voting for that party advances.

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before the break, i spoke about the gop's failure to adopt a new party platform at this week's republican national convention but instead pledging its enthusiastic support for donald trump. with me to discuss this, "washington post" opinion writer and msnbc contributor jennifer rubin and former republican congressman of illinois, joe walsh. the congressman's a former 2020 republican candidate for president and primaried president trump earlier this year. welcome to both of you. jennifer, you are such a stalwart and regular guest of ours that i have to remind our viewers that you are a conservative.

you have opinions on things that, in normal times, a lot of our viewers would probably disagree with and you would still be a great guest on our show but we might debate a lot of these issues. we are -- you, as a conservative, are weakened or at least republicans are weakened in this current environment because you don't have a standard bearer who necessarily advances the cause of conservative or what we used to know as -- of as republicans. >> that's right. not only do they not have a written agenda, as you correctly point out, but they have latched themselves to a man who is completely inconsistent, who will say one thing one day and another thing the other day. so, go follow his train of thought and try to figure out even what he stands for. moreover, it means everything -- every crack pot opinion that comes out of his mouth is therefore the party's opinion, because they just said, whatever he said, we say. so, every time he makes a racist statement, every time he makes a

preposterous proposal, that is, then, the republican party's position. there's no separation between the two. but i would argue that my notion of conservatism, you know, i think, mr. walsh's notion of conservatism is at this point pretty much dead. donald trump believes in protectionism and huge deficits. he is a toadie for illiberal regimes around the world. he does not favor illegal immigration, which is a free market principle. there are no conservative principles that he is following. it's a triple whammy. they don't have a written platform. they are tied to this guy who is an irrational racist and judging by his actions, he doesn't do things that are conservative if the word has any meaning anymore. >> so, joe walsh, and by the way, joe and i have argued on

policy matters with some regularity and in a normal world, joe, you and i don't share a lot of political views, and that's fantastic. that's the beauty of pluristic society, right? we don't have to share views but we can engage in discussion. the problem here is that you, as a conservative, your differences from donald trump are now as great as any liberal, any small "l" liberals from donald trump so you're aligned with people in the moment because donald trump doesn't represent you either. >> i'm a conservative because i fear big, oppressive government. i fear authoritarianism and that's what we have in the white house right now. we have a lawless authoritarian. i'm still bummed out. i'm still so down by what i saw the other night when donald trump gave his acceptance speech. he turned a government building

into one of his trump properties, and republicans applauded him. you talk about a cult. what donald trump did, ali, the other night, was wrong. it was unethical. it was illegal. again, it was the stuff of an authoritarian, and republicans in congress, my former colleagues, privately, they knew darn well it was wrong for donald trump to campaign at the white house like that. but all of the -- all of his followers, they applauded it. it was so sad. >> jennifer, a week ago, i tweeted out, in response to a discussion we were having that was like this, and i said, i don't wish to live in a one-party state. i don't wish to live in a place where my arguments are not challenged or debated. a lot of people agreed and said, no, the republicans don't have a right to sort of have any opinions at this point. how do you fix that? clearly, there are conservatives among us. clearly there are people who believe in the republican party.

but it doesn't exist at the moment. what happens next? is there going to be a new republican party? will a phoenix rise from the ashes that will be an ideological conservative party that can debate the other side? >> well, step number one is to defeat donald trump and those very republicans who joe was saying have been really toadies. there is no reform. there is no improvement of that party unless there is a repudiation of the current president and all the people who have gone down the garden path with him. so, that's step number one. step number two is, i think republicans or people who are not comfortable with a progressive agenda have to figure out what they're for, and they have to figure out what issues command their attention. it's no longer acceptable simply to go back to a 1980s tax cut plan and say, that's what it mean to be conservative. they have to figure out what center right principles they can

suppo support that are responsive to the 21st century that can address issues like climate change, income equality, that can address the gap between skills and a 21st century economic job market. so, it is a matter, i think, of figuring out what they want to be when they grow up, and i think there are a lot of great ideas out there. there are people such as the center who are working on these ideas which are trying to look at libertarian ideas, trying to look at moderation, trying to look at some conservative market principles. all of that can go on. there can be, as you say, a robust debate of ideas, but first, you have to get rid of donald trump and his toadies and you have to repudiate this right wing populism, this racist blood and soil version of the right in which it's all about power. there's the ever-present hint of violence or the reality of violence, and it is a lawless party.

>> well, may we all have this conversation at a moment that allows us to actually debate policy ideas from different positions. i appreciate the time you both have taken this morning. jennifer rubin is an opinion writer with the "washington post." former republican congressman joe walsh ran for president. after a quick break, reverend al sharpton joins me. break, rerevel sharpton joins me. super emma just about sleeps in her cape. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin,

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