[ inaudible ] >> so -- >> you said that. >> so -- >> all right everybody. it is kind of hard to hear what senator john kennedy was saying, representative steve scalise also in the audience. the fema administrator, pete gaynor. president trump of course there who is being briefed and talking to the media there about hurricane laura. the strongest hurricane to batter the area in 150 years. so far 2.6 million liters of water have been delivered, 1.4 million meals. we should mention nbc news is reporting that 8,000 homes were

destroyed in this hurricane, about 14,000 people sought shelter and as of last night 100,000 people in texas without power and thousands in louisiana. i'd like to bring in peter hotez. we had to interrupt our conversation regarding coronavirus when the president began speaking. also jake levine former aide to president obama. is there concern this could converge and become a super spreader event when we talk about the pandemic? >> absolutely. there is a lot of worry because even before this hurricane, texas still had one of the highest rates of transmission of covid-19 in the country even though it was 10,000 new cases a day, it was down to 5,000 new cases a day, it is still 5,000 new cases a day and those are confirmed cases and what it really means is five or six times higher than that.

louisiana was around 700 new cases confirmed per day. so pretty screaming high level of transmission, one of the highest areas in the country. you have all that disruption. people moving, you know, emergency management, i know they did the best they can in terms of trying to maintain social distancing, trying to use, get more buses out to evacuate people. they did everything they can but even with that i'm quite worried with all that disruption and people moving all over the state of texas and louisiana and neighboring states there is certainly some risk there. >> jake levine we know the lake charles area is a massive petro chemical hub. what are the potential impacts of this hurricane and potential storms to come as we see climate change become more of a reality? >> yeah, sure. it is worth pointing out that in the president's remarks just now those two words which you just

ven though when he change never asked about, you know, whether clear had been different over from the emergency management personnel on the ground that they said these are more frequent, stronger, rapid intensification period, eliminates the amount of time for people to evacuate. to your question, a lot of these communities are dealing with things that they'll be dealing with long after the storm is gone -- the waste water, the toxic chemicals that leeched into the ground and water sources. that is the chemical fires. we saw a chlorine plant on fire in the days after hurricane laura. none of this even really addresses what is perhaps one of the greatest environmental impacts of these storms, which is what the petro chemical facilities, the refineries, the industrial facilities do to

prepare for the storm ahead of time which is that they release huge amounts of air toksics ixi the air. things like benzine, illnesses which of course the last thing we need in this time of the covid pandemic. as the case with so many of these environmental issues playing out across the country when you start to peel back the layers you see that the trump administration has actually actively dismantled regulations that might have protected against some of these emissions and in this case the risk management program at epa is something that the obama administration has implemented and might have helped to implement plans to reduce these types of emissions but of course the trump administration rolled that back. >> jake levine and dr. peter hotez, thank you so much for sticking around and shedding a light on these crucial issues right now. we need to get to more breaking news out of washington.

we just learned within the last hour that the office of the director of national intelligence has informed the intelligence committees it will no longer offer in-person briefings about election security and foreign interference. joining me now from the white house, josh, just in the last few minutes since we broke this story we heard this has to do with a fear of potential leaks? >> reporter: that's right. i spoke with an intelligence official who said a few mints ago we've been providing briefings to congress on a regular basis since the 2018 election and even more frequently in the last several months particularly igust theret the intelligence community gave to the house and senate. after that there was information that was sensitive, potentially classified, we're not sure, but at least sensitive information that managed to make its way into the public domain into the press and the speculation or at

least the argument that the intelligence community seems to be making is that they can't totally trust congress at this point to protect that information that is being conveyed in these in-person briefings. i think some of the concern also is about the back and forth between the administration and congress playing out publicly. there were public comments from nancy pelosi and other leaders in congress following those briefings talking about their dissatisfaction with the briefings and what was in them, what was not in them. and so now what the director of national intelligence john ratcliffe is telling to the house and senate intelligence communities is they'll continue to provide information to congress about election interference and election security but they are primarily going to do it through what they're calling written, finished intelligence products, which means instead of having kind of an open discussion where lawmakers would be able to ask questions and hear from officials first hand about what

they're picking up on, it is going to be more a matter of when the intelligence community has a final written product ready to be handed over to congress, then they will do so. now, importantly, the intelligence community is not totally closing the door to some in person briefings because there is actually some statutory requirements contained in the defense authorization bill that requires by law the director of national intelligence to do some briefings before congress. the intelligence office is saying they'll comply with everything they are legally required to do. they want to keep the door open for communication with congress but in an attempt to protect this information better as well as sources and methods used to collect that intelligence the primary way they are going to communicate with congress about efforts to interfere in our election and to secure the integrity of our election from now on will be through written,

finished intelligence products. >> nbc's josh ledderman bringing us up to speed on the very latest at the white house. for more on this i want to bring in betsy woodruff swan national correspondent for politico and msnbc contributor. betsy, you've done more reporting on this but what i find to be so interesting about josh's reporting is this is coming at a time when voters are demanding more transparency not less. >> that's right. and questions regarding election security are only going to be more and more front of mind as we go into the november elections. earlier this summer the office of the director of national intelligence released information to the public regarding election security that was pretty eye popping including a statement saying that the russian government's efforts to shape the u.s. or influence the u.s. elections were designed to damage joe biden and saying that a ukrainian member of parliament was engaged in those efforts. he is important because he has

known rudy guiliani for quite sometime and has met with him and provided some information to him guiliani of course being trump's lawyer. the fact that they will now be dramatic in scaling back the in-person, verbal briefings to members of congress is something that our hill sources unsurprisingly find quite disturbing. with talking with people in the intelligence committee over the last hour or so what i am hearing is what josh is hearing which is people have said they're concerned information from these briefings may leak out to the public and jeopardize sources and methods when it comes to this classified intelligence. the rejoinder to that of course is that these are matters that are of immense public importance and there's always pressure from the public and from congress for americans to have maximum information about which foreign adversaries are trying to shape our elections and how. >> so at some point we can probably expect a statement from congressional democrats but other than a statement what more can they do?

>> that is a good question. they can issue subpoenas to bring in officials from the intelligence community, they can threaten to withhold funding, they can sort of publicly name and shame the i.c. but at the end of the day, congress historically has really, really struggled to have effective oversight over the intelligence community. it is very hard to get what they want out of the intelligence community. they don't have as much leverage as they would like to have and sort of playing chicken with the intelligence community's budget is something that they've been hesitant to do in the past at least based on our public reporting about the way those negotiations have gone. >> before i let you go we've had two people in the last hour responding to this news saying, this is a big deal. can you put this into perspective in terms of why it is such a big deal and so unprecedented? >> it is a big deal because it's

a dramatic and public clash between the intelligence community and capitol hill. it's a big deal because it involves an issue that is an immensely big deal. to one who cares about voting and the entirety of the american elections. and it potentially tees off significant friction between the hill and the intelligence community. one of the most important questions will be whether republicans on capitol hill are critical of the decision that the intelligence community has made here or whether they say, yes, our bad. we understand you don't want to give us as detailed information in the more helpful verbal briefings because of alleged leaks coming out of capitol hill. that's a big question. how republicans respond. >> betsy woodruff swan, thank you so much for your reporting. we appreciate your time. 66 days out to the election. in your lower corner we're still watching and tracking

president trump's visit to the hurricane laura area in lake charles, louisiana. we're going to continue to track that. you can see several people around him as he appears to be signing something. we know he already signed a disaster declaration. some people behind him wearing masks there. but we'll keep an eye on that situation. let's go to the joe biden and kamala harris campaign on the virtual campaign trail today. how are things going for them? is there any indication right now that these virtual events are as effective as in-person ones? >> we've seen joe biden just do a virtual address to national guard members which just wrapped up a little bit ago and kamala harris like you and i talked about a little earlier in south florida today talking to small business owners who are in the latino community. this is kind of new stuff that we're all navigating here. this isn't a normal campaign trail. these are not normal campaign events. you know, if we were back on the trail in person, if there wasn't

a pandemic going on, these are all kinds of speeches and community reach outs that would be happening in person. we saw that so much up until march pretty much and as things started to shut down they really are pivoting to make sure that the events are safe and sometimes safe means virtual instead of in person. we do know that there is a little bit of a tease of the biden/harris ticket starting to maybe go out physically on to the trail. some of these battleground states like arizona, north carolina, michigan, florida, obviously kamala harris speaking from south florida today virtually speaking of course. and so it's a little unclear how much this engagement is going to follow through for these next 60 plus days, like you just mentioned. it is interesting, though, because the engagement i want to point out isn't just kamala harris going in these virtual chat rooms and these virtual events just speaking to people. there is very much a sense this engagement like you're saying has to carry through for a long time. what the campaign has essentially done is making sure these events and these pieces of

conversations turn into something tangible on the ground, which means she is talking to small business owners and these latino communities in south florida today making sure they have a partnership going forward to turn those folks and those communities and those critical parts of the environment that they live in and turning those folks into areas where people can get registered to vote, people who are somewhat surrogates for the campaign where they can be writing op eds in their local newspapers supporting the biden/harris ticket, putting up biden/harris signs in their store fronts. some of that virtual sense is totally not ground we've covered before. you're seeing a little bit this weekend of how some of those events through a screen can turn into something on the ground and that on-the-ground motion they'll need to turn out folks come november. >> thank you so much, deepa. in kenosha, wisconsin the family of jacob blake, local community leaders, and elected officials have gathered to march as part of a rally for jacob

demanding justice and calling for an end to police violence and systemic racism in kenosha. the rally happening as the 29-year-old who is paralyzed from the waist down and recovering in the hospital has been released from handcuffs police had attached to his hospital bed. something that of course left his family outraged. >> once they didn't succeed killing him, now we got to besmudge him so they came up with some old warrants that were misdemeanor warrants but it gave them the right to be -- to have custody over his body as long as they wanted. >> blake was shot seven times by a white police officer on sunday. state officials in wisconsin have said blake had told police he had a knife in his car and that a knife was in fact recovered from the car. however, police have not confirmed whether blake was armed at the time he was shot. nbc's shaquille brewster is in

kenosha. what is the scene like at the rally? >> reporter: this rally is set to kick off. it is going to start with a march and then a rally down by the courthouse. we're told it is going to step off any moment now. as we're looking at the pictures of the crowds of people here, i'll tell you i just got to talk with jacob blake's uncle. his uncle tells us that he is alert in the hospital. he's talking. his mother is currently visiting him and she also confirms the shackles we kept talking about around his ankle, the handcuff around his left wrist according to his lawyer, those have been removed. you see the people here getting ready to step off. that is the latest we've heard. the other thing we heard is this information that, the talk about these warrants that were out. the reason why he was shackled you heard from the police chief here. they said that was standard procedure. that was the result of some outstanding warrants related to a third-degree sexual assault charge. well, the family is disputing that. the family is saying that is a

smear that you're hearing out there. they're saying that they're just focused on his condition right now. they want the message to be focused on unity, uniting people. you see the crowd here. it is a very diverse crowd, a very young crowd. you see the message that is going to be leading the march as they make their way to the courthouse that says justice for jacob. that is the message people are having out here today. it is a very friendly vibe. we talked about the protests and the nature of the protests. we see a lot of kids out here. we see a lot of families. this is a very peaceful march that will be stepping off any minute now. >> shaq, the reporting that i've heard so far is that jacob blake, while he is resting and is recovering, is not aware at the movement this whole incident has inspired. do you know if that is still the case? >> that's the latest we know. we heard that from his father, who said yesterday while he was in d.c. at the march on washington he said he is doing whatever he can to make sure he's not upsetting his son. his son is still in a lot of pain and that is something the family continues to remind us

of. he is still under the intense medical treatment. so, yes. he is able to talk and joke with his family and they want to keep things positive but they also say and acknowledge they're shielding him from the larger aspects of this, the big movement. they want to keep the positivity and they want him to be focused on the positive aspects right now. when that shifts i think depends on how well and quickly he recovers. one thing that his uncle told us is that they're still asking for the family -- or asking for the nation for people all around kenosha and around the country to send their prayers his way. they emphasize he is not out of the woods yet. he is doing better. he is feeling better. he's alert and talking. but he still has a long road to recovery, so the prayers, they say, are still needed. >> nbc's shaq brewster in kenosha, wisconsin, thank you so much for your reporting. we'll continue to check in with you at that protest happening right now in kenosha. meantime a frightening scene unfolded in germany earlier this morning. the streets of berlin were swamped with protesters marching against the country's

coronavirus restrictions and emboldened by the qanon movement whose influence is now spreading across europe as well as of course here in the united states. joining us now with more on that is nbc's matt bradley live from berlin. night has fallen. what can you tell us about how many people are still there and that qanon influence that is growing overseas. >> reporter: it is startling. the crowd is really spread out. there were tens of thousands of people here. now there's a lot of stragglers around. this is berlin so it all kind of devolved into a sort of tech no dance party for a little while here. that really doesn't do justice to what was going on here. this was a coronavirus skeptic rally that had some strong strains of the qanon conspiracy and some of the supporters of that theory. now, how did europeans, people here who are not democrats, not republicans, for the most part not americans, why would they care about the qanon conspiracy theory? for a lot of them, they arrived

at it through their skepticism of the coronavirus and covid. we see that throughout the world. people who are grating under the regulations that ironically here in germany at least played a major role in keeping this country from having so many terrible cases of this disease but a lot of people were very suspicious of that and it led them down a digital rabbit hole looking at youtube videos and chatting with people in chat rooms and it led them to embrace a new theory, decidedally american one, the qanon theory. i spoke to some of the protesters today. they were germans but carrying qanon flags. take a listen to what they have to say. >> the same problem, the same problem with the communists and the same lies to tell us, coronavirus is a big problem and we must go -- don't work. >> the situation between the germans and the americans and

russians, french, yeah. >> this is the reason, yeah. >> okay. we are for the truth and the peace. >> reporter: so, you know, it's unusual. why would europeans care about this decidedally american phenomenon? i spoke with some researchers and they said anybody can see in this qanon conspiracy theory kind of what they want to see. it is just infinitely expandible and adaptable to other countries. it doesn't have to be an american conspiracy because of course if you're familiar with this conspiracy theory it sort of imagines a global group of eelites running the world for people here in europe that is something that they can see. they can resonate with. back to you. >> matt bradley live in berlin. very interesting. thank you. after the break more on the hurricane recovery ert from a man who knows it well, general russell honore joins us live.

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welcome back. president donald trump wrapped his roundtable in lake charles, louisiana moments ago surveying the damage in this small community and others throughout the gulf coast during hurricane laura. he is now on his way to orange, texas, to continue his tour of the damage. we are joined now by lieutenant general russell honore someone who is unfortunately all too familiar with the devastation a hurricane like this can bring. lieutenant general, thank you for joining us. i want to get your reaction to the president's remarks this afternoon. he toured some of the hardest hit areas. we are showing our viewers some of that video. what are your thoughts on what we heard from the president today? we're trying to get lieutenant general honore -- are you there?

can you hear me? >> yes, clear. >> what did you take from the president's remarks today surveying the damage? >> well, his comments are always -- all the presidents, give the people reassurance, telling them we'll help you and get everything you need to do. unfortunately, that comes very slow for people trying to get back in their homes. i hope the president is sincere when he talks about the support that is going to come from fema and from the federal government because it will have to reestablish the grid in that town and i hope he means it when he says he is going to get it done quickly and here is why. the homes after harvey have not been rebuilt. the homes in puerto rico after maria have not been rebuilt. in the virgin islands. so i hope this promise of speedy help is going to come because since 2017 when he took office

those homes have not been rebuilt. i hope he is true to his word and he'll make this happen and give us everything we need to rebuild lake charles and the entire spectrum from cameron up to shreveport people have damage. >> we are talking about hundreds of thousands of families without power. what does the area need in the immediate future when we talk about rebuilding? it sounds like a daunting task you almost don't know where to begin. what do people need immediately? >> that is a good question. you have to re-establish the grid. get the roads opened. that is happening while they do search and rescue. get the cell towers up so people can talk. you can't communicate, you can't coordinate. start getting electricity back on. get power generated through the water pumps so you start pumping wat water so people can have clean water, those in their homes or

have access to water in the town without having to ship as much bottled water. number three, porta potties. everywhere. people are going to come back and they'll need those services wan the number of houses and buildings they'll have to put street blocks of porta potties in there in the coming days otherwise they'll end up with -- and get everybody a tetanus shot because of the amount of debris around there, people get sick if they don't give them updated tetanus shots. you got to rebuild the grid literally to get the lights back on and get the water running and probably put a field hospital in there to assist because most of the other small clinics are down and you'll need medical services. we are really rebuilding the infrastructure. >> lieutenant honore, today is the 150th anniversary of hurricane katrina.

you were the former joint task force commander. that storm devastated new orleans and also claimed nearly 2,000 lives. are we better equipped 15 years later to deal with emergencies and response plans to crises like this? >> i say we are. we have a better structure at the federal government. it is much more responsive in getting the presidential declarations done. and that generally worked well with the search and rescue. after the search and rescue, we go into recovery. that is where the bureaucracy kicked in. in a year you could have two different administrators from fema on the ground making decisions. it is ridiculous. it's about logistics now and it is up to the state now to execute that logistics, to re-establish that grid with help from the federal government. much of this work will be done by contractors. so they have to clear the way to get those contractors in to help

them re-establish the grid. the other big difference from katrina with louisiana is the louisiana national guard is home. they have made a big difference. they've been -- when katrina hit the louisiana national guard was in iraq or on patrol. they're here and you can see the difference. they are all over that disaster zone and they're saving people's lives. so that is a big difference from what we had with katrina to now. >> we are glad to hear it. lieutenant general russell honore quickly before i let you go how is your home? was your area affected? >> we had some threats of tornadoes. and i feel for the people who have lost their homes and my heart goes out to the first responders. many coming in, volunteers from all over the country to try to help our people here in louisiana. i want to thank them and the ngos coming in to help. thank you. >> thank you so much for your time today, sir.

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a visual for jacob blake the man shot in the back by kenosha police last weekend is under way in wisconsin. his family and local organizers have called for a mass meeting march and rally to demand justice for the father of three who is paralyzed from the waist down fighting for his life in a hospital. those gathered at today's vigil are also honoring two protesters who were shot and killed during demonstrations in kenosha on tuesday. kyle rittenhouse the 17-year-old charged with their deaths will remain in custody in illinois after a judge agreed to delay a hearing on his extradition to wisconsin. joining me now to dive deeper and discuss the legal implications of all this is msnbc legal analyst paul butler.

let's first discuss the officers who opened fire on jacob blake. there have been requests for the officers' history with the department. the d.a. said jacob blake was in possession of a knife but we don't know if he was armed with it at the time. tell me about why all of those things matter when talking about whether charges would be justified against this officer. >> you're right, the district attorney is saying mr. blake had a knife. the most important legal question is whether officer sheskey who shot mr. blake in the back seven times knew that. if he did know that he can claim self-defense but i think the evidence suggests that he probably did not know. first of all, if he knew about the knife i think the public would have been told that by now. second, we can look at the way the officer walked right up to mr. blake in the car. cops are taught if dealing with

a suspect who is armed and dangerous to cover and conceal and this officer did just the opposite. finally, none of the other two officers at the scene discharged their weapons, so i think all of that rebuts a claim of self-defense by the officer who fired the shots and if it is not a justified killing he can be charged with attempted murder. >> then we have the case of kyle rittenhouse the 17-year-old charged with six counts in the connection with shooting three protesters. two of those protesters have died. there is video of this. we see him -- this is a photo of him, the suspect. we see him brandishing a weapon. there is video of the shots being fired. what are the next steps in this case? >> so the next legal step is for him to be extradited to wisconsin from illinois where he is currently being held. again, he is likely to claim self-defense. he'll say that the first person he shot tried to take his weapon

away from him and then he'll say after that an angry mob attacked him and he had to shoot in self-defense. i think the video will be used by both the defense and the prosecution. it seems like an open and shut case for the government but when you look at social media, rittenhouse is getting lots of support especially from gun rights activists. >> and there hasn't been a reasonable explanation yet for why this was allowed. we'll play the video again for our viewers, anybody listening to us on xm sirius radio. we see suspect rittenhouse approaching law enforcement with his weapon in hand, with his hands up. can you help explain what went on here and why he wouldn't have been stopped in this moment? >> we haven't heard any compelling explanation from the police department. we know that witnesses were telling the police that rittenhouse had just shot two

people, killed two people, wounded another. he is walking down the street strapped, armed and dangerous, and the police just let him go. we have got to compare that to the way they responded to mr. blake who was not armed at the time that he was shot in the back seven times with his three kids in the back seat. that's the criminal, legal process in the united states of america in black and white. >> and one last question for you. we've been hearing this law and order rhetoric from president trump throughout the rnc we heard it. but right now a lot of what we're seeing, the protests, they have been peaceful. this country was founded on the right to protest. that's what's been happening. what can you tell us about whether this law and order, even some requests for federal troops are justified in these situations? >> you know, the irony of president trump using law and

order at the protests as a campaign theme is that a lot of the violence at the protest is sparked by the police, themselves, and the protesters reacting to unusual, excessive force by cops or the violence is sparked by counterprotesters and vigilantes like mr. rittenhouse. so for a long time in american history law and order has been a theme in presidential races not so much recently because violent crime has gone way down. there's been a slight uptick but it is still in general down. people feel safe on the streets for the most part so that is why trump's got to focus on the violence at the protests. i don't know how successful that is going to be because according to polls most americans support the protests and the movement for black lives, so beyond his base i'm not sure that this law and order appeal is going to work for the president. >> paul butler, we appreciate you making sense of all this.

we know the videos don't explain the full picture of what's been going on. we appreciate you spreading some light. actors and athletes, unprecedented moves from sports teams to bring attention to social injustice. their powerful message after the break. the break.

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i have beautiful brown skin but take a look at your hand and whatever shade it is, it is beautiful as well. god did not make one type of tree or flower or rock. how dare you ask him to make one type of welcome back everybody. activists and advocates are gathering in kenosha, wisconsin, for a justice for jacob march protesting the police shooting that left the father of three jacob blake paralyzed and fighting for his life. we're showing you those live pictures right now. we'll continue to follow this march, this rally, and let you know if any developments happen. this has been a week that will go down in sports history but not because of points scored. instead, athletes are using their platform to fight for social justice. after the shooting of jacob blake and the other lives lost in police violence. here's video of the new york

mets and the miami marlins walking off the field thursday night. . >> and now after a moment of silence that lasted 42 seconds, the day before we celebrate jackie robinson day, the mets are exiting the field after both teams exchanged a wave of caps to one another, so it would appear as though after a poignant moment that the mets and marlins will not be playing baseball tonight. >> nba players are also leaving the game before playoffs. just as powerful, the emotional and personal stories and statements from well known figures in the sports world including on msnbc this morning. >> i mean, we're tired. you know? i'm embarrassed. i don't want to live in the most racist country in the world. right now we are the laughingstock of the world. this is how -- we're sick of it. we're all americans. we should all be one. your racism is no the my business. keep it to yourself. that's how i feel. we're done with all this stuff. you know?

this is america? this is our country right now? it's an embarrassment. >> all you hear is donald trump and all of 'em talking about fear. we're the ones getting killed. we're the ones getting shot. we're the ones that were denied to live in certain communities. it's amazing to me why we keep loving this country and this country does not love us back. >> i think the most difficult part is to see, like, people still don't care. and it's continuously happening. i mean, it just shows just a hate in people's hearts. >> wow. very powerful there. are these personal statements making a difference? vice president pence's chief of staff mark short called the nba protests absurd and silly. but a recent poll by yougov shows a majority of those polled support the players' decision to

protest. and the shows of support from the sports world didn't stop with baseball and basketball. a group of black surfers held a unique event off long island, new york to honor the life of breonna taylor who was killed by louisville metro police back in march. we are joined on the phone by "new york times" reporter sandra garcia. sandra, i'd love to chat with you while we show our viewers more of this moment. tell us why it was important for you to be there covering it. >> reporter: well, this group, the black surfers association has been doing this all summer. the one they did last saturday was actually their third. the first one was in tribute to the black lives matter movement. the second one was in tribute to george floyd. and i think it's important that people see that no matter where they are, these things matter to them. >> breonna taylor, she is gracing the cover of "vanity fair." we know this month. the officers who barged into her home killing her still have not

faced any kind of justice. what do the people there at the event tell you that they want to see? >> reporter: they want to see justice served. one thing that lou harris, the father of the east coast black surfers association said right before everyone everyone went i the water, paddle out 13 blocks for breonna taylor. one thing he said was he wanted to see justice so they didn't have to take up the kids' time, the parents' time with a protest in the water. they want to freely enjoy themselves without the weight of breonna taylor's death on their mind. they can't go out there without them keeping focus. >> tell us the poignancy of paddling out and what that signifies to the movement. >> paddling out is when you get past the point where the water

breaks on the beach in order to catch a wave and come back to shore. but what they did was paddle out into the water far enough where they can then paddle 13 blocks east from where they started. the 13 blocks were supposed to be, again, tribute to breonna taylor, who died on march 13th. for them it was a very important moment, a very special moment. lou harris said it felt like -- he told me it felt like he was at church. they pray out there. they breathe out there. one of the coordinators said before everyone took to the water, think about george floyd, think about how they couldn't breathe and you have the ability to use your breath to push yourself out 13 blocks. and, you know, it may not be synonymous with the protests that are going on in the streets

today. but it's a moment to breathe as tribute to breonna taylor and george floyd. >> we appreciate you coming on talking to us about this important event. we thank you for your time. the emotions took center stage on the national mall. and that's where thousands gathered yesterday to commemorate the 57th anniversary of the march on washington, a renewed focus on racial justice and equality across the country. among the speakers was the father of jacob blake whose son shooting has sparked nationwide protest. to sad news that has rocked the entertainment community. actor chadwick boseman has died at the age of 43 following a four-year battle with colon cancer. his death came as a shock to many because he never publicly spoke about having the illness. and he starred in efrl movies since he was first diagnosed including iconic roles such as

jack c jackie robinson, james brown. kathy park takes a look at the legacy of his career. >> reporter: this morning hollywood is grieving the loss of chadwick boseman, the star who played iconic black figures from jackie robinson -- >> give me a uniform, give me a number on my back, and i'll give you the guts. >> reporter: -- and james brown. he came to chala in "black panther." news of his death was announced on social media detailing his four-year battl publicly about his diagnosis even as it progressed to stage four. his family released a statement friday, a true fighter, chadwick persevered through it all and brought you many of the films

you have come to love so much. his passing shocked hollywood and beyond. chris evans wrote, he had so many so much amazing work left to create. i'm endlessly grateful for our friendship. marvel studios tweeting, your legacy will live on forever. boseman brought history to live with his portrayal of u.s. supreme court justice thurgood marshall, but it was his performance in "black panther" that made him a household name. he spoke candidly about the film's success. >> what do you think people are responding to? >> i think there's a thirst for these images. there's a thirst for a black super hero. as far as my character goes, there's a search for how do i lead. and i think people are searching for that, leaders that care about the people. >> reporter: in the role as commencement speaker at howard

university, his alma mater, he would deliver a powerful speech to inspire even more lives. >> everything you fought for was not for yourself. it was for those that come after. >> reporter: howard alum and vice presidential candidate kamala harris tweeted, my friend and fellow bison chadwick boseman was kind and humble. this morning friends and family are remembering this real life super hero who was fighting his own battle behind the scenes. chadwick boseman was 43 years old. for today, kathy park, nbc news. >> such a tremendous loss, someone who inspired millions and more generations to come. that's it for me this hour. i'm lindsey reiser. i'll be back tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. the news continues with my colleague richard lui. continuey colleague richard lui. due to afib... ...not caused by a heart valve problem. so if there's a better treatment than warfarin,

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hello everyone. i'm richard lui at msnbc headquarters in new york city. president trump surveying the damage in louisiana and exttexa today, how recovery is going on this first weekend after hurricane laura came through. the presidential election contest enters a new phase. the conventions have ended, and the last dash beginning. for president trump, that means a new hampshire rally. he told the crowd there to save democracy from the mob. you must vote to defeat an extremely poor candidate, joe

biden. joe biden struck back in hay tweet saying, quote, the president incites violence, inspires white supremacist shooters, and his failed covid response is costing thousands of lives per day. do you feel safe in trump's america. biden and kamala harris are hosting virtual events this saturday. americans grapple with two major crises, first the coronavirus pandemic which claimed more than 183,000 lives. and the movement for racial equality continues in a heap with protests continuing in kenosha, wisconsin, and other cities across the country. yesterday was the 57th anniversary of the march on washington, thousands gathering at the lincoln memorial to continue the fight began by dr. martin luther king for justice, equality, and the