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this is 2020. and we are not going to tolerate this anymore. >> the shooting could leave jacob blake permanently disabled. he remains in the hospital with major injuries to his vital organs. despite being immobile he had been handcuffed to his hospital bed. those cuffs are off now. also today president trump toured the damage from hurricane laura in louisiana and texas. he had referred to rioters who disrupted protests as thugs and anarchists during a campaign event last night in new hampshire. mr. trump is also taking credit for the calm in kenosha after wisconsin's governor activated the national guard. joe biden called that out in a speech to the national guard association. >> by standing and recommending that you should be deployed to, quote, dominate your fellow citizens threatening if governors didn't do something
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the president would, you know, we're so much better than this. you deserve so much better. >> let us begin in kenosha where nbc's janelle ross is standing by. what's the latest from there? >> reporter: hi. >> what's going on tonight? how is the protest in kenosha this evening? >> well, this evening is largely quiet. there are not many protesters on the street. there was a rally earlier this afternoon and there are some people who remain in place from that rally. there are i think some interesting things happening here in kenosha beyond the protests. one of them is that people who have varying prescriptions for the things that ail america have taken to the streets. we have some people who are sort of in disagreement on a loud speaker about what is needed in kenosha, more god, more religion, more accountability
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for systemic racism, etcetera. in many ways, it kind of echoes what is happening in cities around the country only different in that a man was shot at least seven times by police here almost a week ago. the national guard had been deployed. as you can see behind me there are most of the major buildings and for that matter almost all of the small businesses around kenosha are boarded up. people are certainly instructed to be at home by curfew. so there are ways in which kenosha is also quite different and some ways alarming. >> do you get any sense that civic leaders in wisconsin or kenosha are in any kind of connection with the protesters, or are those two kind of separate conversations right now? >> reporter: i think that there are efforts, certainly, to make connections with protesters. for instance the state's lieutenant governor spoke today at today's gathering and really
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very much committed himself to seeking reform in terms of police accountability. however, for the most part, city officials have taken an approach that i would say is perhaps more akin to what you saw in cities around the country after a police shooting. prior to ferguson. information has been very limited, i think more than one person here has said to me that they felt that the police in particular but for that matter city officials had really borrowed from the playbook of doing to question the sort of human utility or value of mr. blake to certainly share as much information as they could that they thought would be disparaging in terms of mr. blake and his life and i think that has really troubled a lot of people. and when coupled with sort of a slow flow of information about the shooting, itself, it has
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created some additional tensions. >> thanks, starting us off tonight from kenosha, wisconsin. joining us now is anthony davis, president of the naacp's kenosha branch. mr. davis, good evening. >> good evening. thanks for having me on. >> thank you for making time for us. at the rally where she was, there were varying groups of people calling for various things to improve the state of affairs in kenosha. what is the naacp calling for? >> well, the naacp is calling for them to be just and fair and all that they do as far as it comes to not only the jacob blake but to all african-americans within our city. >> among other things the naacp is one of the civil rights organizations calling for kenosha's police chief to resign. what is it that he has done that
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has led to this? >> well, i can tell you that what we've seen from the video -- i'll state it this way. if you see a white young man walking toward law enforcement with his hands up carrying a military style weapon, and in turn if you've seen a young black man walking toward the military with his hands up, would he have been shot? i mean, we're -- all we're asking for is to be treated fairly and just in all of these things taking place here in kenosha. you know, it looks like a double standard to people. >> the sheriff in kenosha has said he has not or had not yet seen the video of the incident in which jacob blake was shot. what do you make of that? >> i would say it's kind of surprising. i mean, it's been everywhere, so
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that's all i can tell you. everybody else has seen it. >> i wonder what you think about what's happening in kenosha now based on what you've seen in the city before now. we're all just parachuting into this and for many people it might be the first they've heard of kenosha in a news story. let's play a quick clip of the chief of police, in kenosha, regarding what the department is receiving from the public. here's what he said. >> the voice of those people is not falling upon deaf ears. we are hearing what is being said. >> what do you make of that in terms of your history in the city of kenosha with the police department? do you feel that the city is at least hearing some of what folks are saying? >> they hear some. but they need to hear more.
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i've been here most of my life and i can tell you it has been where we haven't always felt we're getting a fair shake on everything here. you know, we're a smaller portion of the population somewhere close to about 8% of the population and it's difficult. when it comes to jobs, education, health benefits. you know, sometimes we just feel we're not getting a fair shake. >> very briefly, sir, earlier this week you said the african-american community in kenosha always feels left out and that it pushes a lot of them away in terms of voting in particular. you said there is no trust no matter who is in office. they feel like they don't trust them. how does that very briefly before i have to let you go affect the way the naacp makes its way into this election year, this lack of trust? >> well, the way it looks at this time, we are looking to where we can get, when it comes
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to an election process, we all want to see more minorities involved in our local and national government. and here in kenosha we would like to see more of that. and when it comes to voting, we have a situation sometimes where, you know, you have to go through so much to vote. i mean, with the new laws they've put in place, the i.d. laws they put in place. and individuals have to jump through all these hoops just to voice whoever they want in office. we shouldn't have to do that. it makes me think about when my parents came along where they had to go through difficulties in the south where they said they had to count jellybeans, you know, it makes you feel the same way. >> anthony davis is the president of the kenosha branch of the naacp. mr. davis, thanks for making time for us. >> thank you. this shooting in kenosha has
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many people demanding reforms, but another police involved shooting also in kenosha actually led to changes. when police officers shoot a suspect few of them are charged with crimes. some of them face little to no discipline. and the nature of the investigations vary. many are done internally. that was the case in the death of 21-year-old michael bell jr. in 2004 an officer shot him dead during a struggle after a traffic stop. ten years later wisconsin became the first state to require outside investigators for looking into police shootings. but michael bell's father is still demanding justice for his son. michael bell sr. joins us now. mr. bell, good evening. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me on your show. >> what were your initial thoughts when you heard about the shooting of jacob blake? >> i was at the dinner table and i watched the video unfold, and the first thing that i saw was a family member standing next to him and jumping up and down.
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i was just sickened by the situation. but i also felt sympathy for the family member as my own son was shot in front of his mother and sister. >> we mentioned this law that has changed the way that investigations of police involved shootings are conducted in wisconsin. based on that and perhaps other changes, how are you feeling in terms of this investigation? how much confidence do you have that things today might be different than the investigation into your son's death? >> the investigation into my son's death took just 48 -- 56 hours. two calendar days. i was appalled by that. i'm a retired military officer and i knew how safety investigations should run. and so right now jacob blake's family has the benefit of an investigation we never had. the investigation in my own son's case is still ongoing. i have private investigators working with me and specialists. right now i think the system -- i think the investigation
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conducted by d.o.j. will be accurate but the problem is you're giving it back to a district attorney whose political base is the law enforcement in the community. >> speaking of the district attorney, here is a quick clip of kenosha's d.a. michael graily speaking about the investigation. listen. >> we are asked to review that independently garnered evidence, and we are asked, are there any crimes that a police officer has committed that can be proven to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. so i need to let you know now and the community know that is the only question that the kenosha district attorney's office will answer. >> so that's what investigators are looking into with regards to jacob blake. with regards to your son's case, what are you advocating for these days? >> well, first of all, d.a. gravely is right there presume chewo -- presumptious about what the
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jury will find in a ruling. he should present any evidence and allow the jury to make that decision. that is the way i see d.a. gravely. once again, i don't think d.a. gravely should be involved. i think wisconsin should follow new york and new jersey. there's been executive orders there. there's been legislation there that says police involved shootings should be investigated by an outside prosecutor. >> what is next for you, sir, in terms of your son's case? he was shot back in 2004. this law passed in 2014. that's a lot of water under the bridge at least in terms of the investigation what is next for you? >> well, you have to understand there's been a lot of advances in technology and we've been able to filter out siren noise on audio, undercover underlying conversations from the police officer, we actually found the bullet impact location, which is in direct opposition of the police testimony. that bullet impact location is being tested by a national forensic expert right now.
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our case is still ongoing. we're hoping for a second-degree intentional homicide charge. as for wisconsin, itself, a senator in the district just right north of us has produced legislation to ask for an ntsb style learning model for police involved shootings. this learning model is very much like the ntsb. you look at root cause analysis, you try not to blame fault, and you try to figure out how do you prevent this from happening again. it is the first of its type. it was supposed to be introduced on monday and then was going to be introduced on wednesday but national news kept pushing it back. >> michael bell sr., i appreciate you making time for us, sir. thanks very much. >> thank you, josh. take care. we're following a developing story tonight about america's hunt for threats to election security. today we learned that the office of the director of national intelligence will no longer brief congress in person about these threats.
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we're 66 days away from an election president trump continues to insist will be the most rigged in history. rigged of course unless he wins. mr. trump was asked about this today during his visit to areas damaged by hurricane laura. here is what he and chief of staff mark meadows had to say. >> the last time they gave briefings, a few members went out and talked to the press and disclosed information that they shouldn't have disclosed and so he's going to make sure there are proper tools for oversight and make sure that they contain a way that does not jeopardize sources and methods for the intel that we gather. >> director radcliff brought information into the committee and the information leaked. whether it was shifty schiff or somebody else, they leaked the information before it gets in. and what's even worse, they leaked the wrong information. and he got tired of it. so he wants to do it in a different form because you have leakers on the committee.
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obviously leakers that are doing bad things. >> and, of course, shifty schiff as he put it is adam schiff the chair of that committee. congressman raja krishnamoorthi sits on the committee and we will speak with him next hour. also coming up how will the rnc and president trump's acceptance speech affect his prospects this november? "the washington post" columnist george will says he is about to cast his first vote for a democrat. but will other conservatives do the same? we'll speak with him next. i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ here's a choice you don't have to make.ses are always making choices. the largest 5g network... award-winning customer satisfaction... or insanely great value. now, with t-mobile for business, there's no compromise.
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give people light and they will find the way. the current president's cloekd american darkness for much too long. >> joe biden may claim he is an ally of the light. but when it comes to his agenda biden wants to keep us completely in the dark. he doesn't have a clue. >> right now we have a president who turns our tragedies into political weapons. >> the fact is i'm here. what's the name of that building? >> so let me be as honest and clear as i possibly can. donald trump is the wrong president for our country. >> washington has not changed donald trump. donald trump has changed washington. >> in our first three years we built the greatest economy in
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the world. we made america great again. >> and this president, if he's re-elected, you know what will happen. cases and deaths will remain far too high. more mom and pop businesses will close their doors and this time for good. >> joe biden is not a savior of america's soul. he is the destroyer of america's jobs and if given the chance he will be the destroyer of american greatness. >> all that was just in the last two weeks. two weeks. two conventions. two very different candidates. and what felt like two different realities. there's been a lot of fact checking going on this week and rightly so. but at the end of the day, we went with our hearts not just with our heads. abraham lincoln once said, with public sentiment nothing can fail. without it, nothing can succeed. after president trump's acceptance speech at the rnc, what sentiments are
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conservatives and republicans feeling? and how will that emotion shape the election? joining us now is george will, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc political analyst. i wonder what your sense is of how fired up or maybe cooled off conservatives and republicans are after the rnc. >> i think those who are still within the republican party are probably fired up because they are still in the republican party because they accepted it as the party of mr. trump and that whatever he wants is what they want. that is why for the first time ever the republican party forego the chore of writing a platform. they said in about one sentence, we support the president and, therefore, what he is for we're for. the question really is after each convention every four years there's a question of whether or not there's a benefit.
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when the country is as polarized as this, it is hard to see -- how many americans after three and a half years of this are undecided about mr. trump? there may be something like an enthusiasm deficit that's working in the president's favor. that is, those who favor the president are more ardent in their enthusiasm for him than a lot of those who support joe biden are. they're supporting biden because they don't like trump. trump is the great motivator for democrats. so we will see when the dust settles after another week, i think we'll find that as we round the bend at the traditional labor day beginning of the fall campaign, we're going to see remarkably similar to what we've seen for the last six, seven months, joe biden leading every national poll between five and ten points. >> you wrote in the column this week suggesting joe biden needs
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what you described as a sister soldier moment referring to the comment she made in 1992 where she said if black people are getting -- black people kill black people every day. president clinton repudiated that remark very clearly. i wonder why you feel that he needs that especially because we are not really the same country we were in '92 as it related to racial justice and law enforcement reform. now, in 2020, every white person in the country has seen a black man die at the hands of the police in real time. does joe biden really need that moment? if he had it what difference would it make? >> i'll tell you what difference it would make and why he needs it. if the oldest political party in the world, which the democratic party is, cannot say, clearly, sincerely, and repeatedly, that it supports the oldest political desire in the world, which is
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lawful order and freedom from violence particularly the violence of mobs then he will lose and he will deserve to lose. now, i do not think we'll have two more months of rioting and looting. >> joe biden has said he supports peaceful protesting hasn't he? the issue he needs to say to a person like have someone to wag his finger at? >> he needs to say it to those people who are not peacefully protesting. i'm sorry. you can have peaceful protests. everyone supports that. that is protected, constitutional right. incinerating automobile dealerships in order to protest police brutality is not a constitutional right. all i'm saying is that the country feels joe biden is somehow ambivalent about this or unable to talk about it, he will be in deep trouble. in 1968 two assassinations. widespread urban disorders. after that george nixon and
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george wallace their combined vote was 57% of the popular vote. we've been here before. we don't want to be there again. >> george wallace indeed won five southern states back in 1968. there was a tweet from matthew dowd i'd like you to react to. matthew dowd tweeted why does the media pressure biden to speak out against violent protests but doesn't pressure trump to speak out against police misconduct? i think, george, to be quite frank, if donald trump, if president trump spoke out against police conduct now, i think it would ring very hollow at least in the way that matthew dowd is talking about. >> which answers matthew dowd's question. what is the point of pressuring donald trump? we know what he thinks and we know what he is not going to say. the point is joe biden is the leader. he can't just sit on his lead. he can't go into what used to be a four corner stall in basketball. he has to run all the way to november 3rd. and the way to do that is to make sure that you are on the right side of great public
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anxieties, the greatest of which for a great many americans now and pronly abably all of the americans who are true movable independent voters is civil disorder. >> if you could go back to yourself four years ago and tell yourself you were about to vote for a democrat how do you think you'd react? >> well, i left the republican party in june 3rd, 2016, before mr. trump was even the official nominee. i would not be surprised o to, if i were back there four years ago looking ahead. the president's behavior has not been a surprise. it has been essentially what he promised to do, which is to overturn existing norms. so i am quite content where i am now and where i was then. >> pulitzer prize winning columnist george will, appreciate your time, sir. thanks very much. >> glad to be with you. just ahead, the politics of coronavirus. how will the fight to contain the pandemic proceed with all
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many people hate being told what to do. some people hate being told how not to die. those apparently include some folks at president trump's rally in new hampshire yesterday. they will hopefully not add to the nation's covid-19 death toll now above 183,000. that continues to rise by about a thousand americans every day. lately we've had days of mixed messages from the administration and our public health agencies. dr. steven hahn the head of the fda is walking back comments on the benefits of convelescent plasma. he touted its effectiveness during a press conference last
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weekend. dr. hahn now says he could have done a better job explaining the data. yesterday the "new york times" reported that the fda ousted its top spokeswoman apparently to help shore up the agency's credibility. also this week the cdc announced you do not necessarily need a covid-19 test if you are exposed to coronavirus unless you are showing symptoms. then dr. robert redfield the cdc's director walked that back. his revision? if you have had close contact with someone with a confirmed or probable covid-19 infection, you may consider getting tested. as for the messaging on a vaccine the president repeated his claim that one may be ready to year during his acceptance speech. >> like those brave americans before us we are meeting this challenge. we are delivering life saving therapies and we'll produce a vaccine before the end of the
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year or maybe even sooner. >> let's break all this down with a professor of epidemiology at ucla running the university center for global and immigrant health. welcome. >> thanks. nice to be here. >> what is the upshot of all of this? i'm guessing that most americans don't follow every little move in all these guidelines partially because they've been so kind of all over the place. but this latest walking back, what impact do you think that has in light of everything else? >> joshua, this is a huge problem. we are seeing the blatant politicization of public health and seeing mixed messages which makes people confused and frustrated and they don't know what to do. it makes perfect sense that if we don't have good leadership at the top with very strong messaging that is absolutely driven by science, we're going to have confusion and we're going to have a lot of difficulty in the coming months getting the public to trust our
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leadership that any new vaccine that comes forward, which is of course what we're most worried about but even new treatments, everything, comes into question. i've said it before. going to say it again. we have had an acute infection of politics in our public health and, frankly, we should be sick of this kind of politicization not sick with it. >> our public health systems are multifaceted. you've got the national public health system, states have their own. counties, cities, so on. we've already heard from some public health officials around the country who are like, ah, whatever. you say what you want. we'll do what we know makes sense by the research. what is your sense of the balance between that in terms of the weight of what the federal government says versus the on the ground decisions of the more local public health agencies? >> i think the good news is we're seeing that despite the
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plitization and mixed messaging at the highest levels on the local level we're still seeing a lot of policy driven by science. that is the important thing. the perfect example is the cdc walk back or first the discussion that we didn't need to be testing contacts and then having to subsequently walk back. many states decided to just ignore that and rightly so because testing contacts is really the heart of how we are able to stop transmission of covid. we need to know who is infected and be able to put these people in isolation so that they don't further infect people. and 40% at least of the people who are infected don't know it. so they would be unwittingly infecting people. having tests available are a -- allow us to see what is happening that would be otherwise totally invisible to us. >> speaking of testing the fda just gave approval to this new
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test from abbott. it's a 15-minute test. what do you make of that? >> well, i think it's great that there are more tests that are going to come on the market. i'll say the same about this that i would say about every other new test, new therapeutic, and in the future vaccine. i'd love to see the data. i would love to see how this is going to be rolled out. right now this is currently only licensed for people who are acutely symptomatic. it is not licensed, not given an eoa for asymptomatic infection. and so, you know, this is something that will be of benefit certainly but it is not a game changer. nothing we've seen yet has been a game changer. >> just very quick lf i let you go the eua, emergency use authorization, what you are saying is it's been approved for people who are already kind of showing acute symptoms but if you're in the asymptomatic class, this is not really for you at least based on the
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emergency use authorization, right? >> right. we should make clear, too, that an emergency use authorization is not an approval from fda. i think we often, even myself sometimes, we're kind of loose with how we talk about this. basically it just means we have enough information to suggest that there might be benefit, enough benefit to be able to have it at least on an emergency use available. so i think that is also very important for people to remember. >> ucla professor, good talking to you, thanks very much. >> thank you. how far would you go to demand racial equity? one man has an exact answer. 750 miles. yesterday thousands of people gathered at the lincoln memorial on the anniversary of the march on washington. they gathered to demand equity on many fronts including criminal justice in the spirit of dr. king's i have a dream speech. solidarity marches took place across the country. one activist walked from wisconsin to washington 750
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miles just one lap of a long relay to end racial injustice. >> so we got about 34 or 33 miles on the other side of this to do and then we're there. when i found out they were having it the same day as the martin luther king speech i thought what better way to honor martin luther king than walking? i was like you know what? i'm going to walk there. a lot of people were like you're not going to make it and didn't think i would do it. that made it like a crazy idea, going over 30 miles a day for 24 days straight. >> out here protesting. he had been out here marching on a consistent basis for so many days and then when he decided to walk to washington, d.c. and said do you want to come along i said if your a he serious, let's go. so far we've been called names, racial epithets, we've encountered every day things
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that should not happen to any human being in america. people are at war with us walking down the street. we have to continue to bring these nasty, ugly issues to the front so america can see exactly what's going on. >> my mother marched in the march. they're the same. nothing's changed. it can't stay this way. it's been 400 years. it's time for a change. >> so we've had a lot of moments where people just have like outpouring of love that happened from all the hate we were receiving, people in terms of supplies, people coming through with tons of supplies. there was an officer in valparaiso that marched with us, hands up for black lives matter. before we left indiana there was a state trooper that gave me her badge and said you fight for me while i fight for you. that was a very emotional moment for me as well. to be a person, an individual people look up to for that i could never in a million years imagine that anyone would ever look up to me for that. so i thank god for this opportunity and i appreciate everyone that believes. and anything that i say or
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anything that we're doing because we're just trying to get equality. we need to get organized together as a nation of activists so we can call on each other whenever we need help. we need to demand change not ask for change. this is not a negotiation. i came here to demand change. i'm tired. are y'all tired? 'cuz i'm tired. so when it's time to vote we're going to vote. if y'all see me up here if you're an activist, stop me out there so we can organize. this is a revolution. this is the revolution! >> very cool. very cool. as if 2020 had not brought us enough bad news, i cried uncontrollably when i saw chadwick boseman die in the avengers movie "infinity war." his character the black panther was killed capriciously, disintegrating like ashes in the wind. after the movie i was asked what i was feeling.
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i said, they always take the best of us. chadwick boseman died last night at age 43 from an equally capricious killer, colon cancer. he fought it privately for four years while still entertaining and uplifting the world. the cdc says colon cancer kills more than 50,000 people each year. black people are at the highest risk of dying from it. consider a screening if your lower tract starts acting up, unusual bleeding, cramping, or a change in your bowel habits that worries you. find more information at cancer.org or from your doctor. two years ago, bleeding and cramping led me to get my first colonoscopy. the prep was not fun. but the results were just fine. take it from me, it's better to know than to not know. we will have more on the life and legacy of chadwick boseman in our next hour. super emma just about sleeps in her cape.
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today president trump traveled to louisiana and texas, two areas hit hard by hurricane laura. the category 4 storm made landfall on the gulf coast thursday. at least 14 people have died. the president's tour included lake charles, louisiana, near the gulf coast. >> already met some people that have been absolutely devastated. this was a tremendously powerful storm. one thing i know about this state, they rebuild it fast. there is no problem. and we'll supply what we have to supply and you know what a lot of that is. i think all green, right? we'll take care of you. >> hurricane laura was the strongest storm to hit the gulf coast in 160 years. residents are starting to return, but more than 400,000 homes are still without power. 15 years ago hurricane katrina devastated the same region. what's been done since then and what's gone undone are just ahead. stay close. i should get a quote.
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. today marks 15 years since hurricane katrina made landfall new orleans. the storm devastated new orleans and killed nearly 2,000 people organize organizers were forced to scale back because of coronavirus. people did not stop celebrate. joining us now is cess 45 and
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also with us, andy harwitz at tulane university. since katrina hits, what's the one biggest thing that you see has changed and what's one thing that has not changed. >> one of the biggest things that changed ises the police brutality and and shooting from police. since katrina we had consent decree in big brothers in the pd department. we have not had as many incidents. i thank those implementing those body cameras as well. it made it much lesser than prekatrina.
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some of the good things that has happened, businesses have fl flourished during this time and a lot of people supported businesses here. >> what have not changed? >> a whole lot have changes. homes still have the water and making sure the property is maintained and a lot of different homes where they were still not there. economic impact and billions of dollars sent to the city have not reached the people. a lot of different politicians and city government and they get those dollars but they're not getting to the people. >> professor hardwitz, what
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about that? the same kind of house of a white family got $150,000 worth of aid. what has been going on ? parts of new orleans you can't ignore there was a hurricane, what happened? >> well, we know that america can be efficient machine creating and racial equality and the statistics and just a devastating example of that. this was the billions of dollars that congress gave the state, and took years to distribute any money for anybody and making life difficult for anyone. the program capped the grant award at the market value of the house before the flood.
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identical houses in different neighborhoods but have different cast and make white people eligible for larger grants than black people. >> sess 45, we mentioned the party to commemorate hurricane katrina, how did it go this year with kcovid-19 and everything? >> it was a great time out. because of the pandemic, we did a lot of safety precautions and we scale back a whole lot because of that. just you know we used to getting thousands and thousands of people coming out on this anniversary and today being the 50-year anniversary and thousands of people come from all over the country and new orleans was displaced and texas and atlanta and different cities. they come back this day to
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remember. they lost loved ones so a lot of those restrictions, a number of people could not come back. we just had a good celebration. >> briefly before i let you go. >> professor horowitz, what is it going to take for new orleans to survive? >> like anywhere in the united states or the subject of fires, the climate crisis, we need a change in the united states to arizona and alleviate racial inequalities making more people vulnerable to others. >> gentlemen, we appreciate you both making time for us. thank you very much. we have a bit of a breaking news. president trump has said that he'll visit kenosha, wisconsin on tuesday.
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the site of the police killing of jacob blake. the president will meet with law enforcement and tour what they say damage from the protest. excuse me -- jacob blake, president trump and the white house announced he'll travel to kenosha, walla wisconsin on tue. >> coming ahead, we'll discuss it with congressman moorthi. and chadwick boseman made a huge impact, more on his life as we continue on msnbc. his life s we continue on msnbc you got... up to 60% off your hotel! but isn't that the only one? you're a winner! priceline. every trip is a big deal.
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hey there, i am joshua johnson, nbc news world headquarters in new york. president trump said he'll travel to kenosha, wisconsin on tuesday and vary tsurvey the da there. when asked if he'll meet with jacob blake's family, a spokesperson says the schedule has not been ironed out yet.