hey there, i am joshua johnson, nbc news world headquarters in new york. president trump said he'll travel to kenosha, wisconsin on tuesday and vary tsurvey the da there. when asked if he'll meet with jacob blake's family, a spokesperson says the schedule has not been ironed out yet. let's begin with janelle ross who's in kenosha tonight.

>> reporter: i think there will be mix reactions, certainly president trump has a number of support in wisconsin. there are a few that expressed over the last few days a number of reservations -- i don't know if everyone will be glad to see him here. the question whether or not he's going to meet the blake family is an important one. in addition to that i think there was a lot of concerns that's expressed at this week's republican convention. >> jacob blake's father shares an update of how he is son is doing tonight, what more do we know? >> reporter: we don't know a lot. i had a conversation yesterday with one of the lawyers

representing blake. one of the people seen the shackles on jacob's legs and made an effort to get the shackle removed and it did happen yesterday. what he told me jacob's condition is really dire. they have been told his paralysis is permanent. he's got multiple injuries all over his body. his lawyer said to me moving a millimeter creating excruciating pain so he's under heavy sedation and having only to breathe periods of being awake and having conversations with his family. >> thank you, janelle. the president will be visiting kenosha on tuesday. it is unclear yet whether or not the president will be speaking to the family of jacob blake. we'll continue with that

story, a lot has changed in terms of the reaction to this. a lot has changed since colin kaepernick took a knee to the sports world. on wednesday the nba postponed all of its playoffs games after the milwaukee bucks walked off the court in protest. playoffs resumed today. lebron james was seen wearing a shirt that reads "do y'all understand now?" nba players call for certain assurances, those includes using arenas as voting sites this november. joining us now eton thomas and the author of "we matter" and also with us espn host and commentat commentator, mr. jones. what did you make of this change

now? i was in san francisco, i was there when kaepernick started as quarterback for the 49ers. and after the kneeling on the sideline thing was so polarizing and shocking. now i don't feel that kind of shock or stun reaction anymore. seems like a lot has changed. >> believes are putting their names into this. something they did not want to get behind. george floyd made it impossible for people to ignore and now you have jacob blake where it is another one that looks similar to that in terms of being difficult and for people to look at it and not look at the larger

feedbac fact. in this time of covid-19 they had to look at some of these things and the knee jerk reaction that they had was maybe miss the idea that maybe the police is wrong. >> let me play a quick clip of chris paul t preside, what he h these past few days. >> for us to see you know our black brothers being shot and killed on a daily basis does not make a lot of seasonse to us. we needed some time, all of us, to refocus and understand that we can't do that. >> what's your sense of that if you heard from players how they

spent the last few days? >> the last few days are stressful for a lot of players and stressful for black parents right now. america does not understand that every single time a shooting like this happens or a police killing like this happens, the conversation that happens inside of every black family, my son malcolm is 15-year-old and i am afraid for him. i can't sleep for a few nights when things like this happens and i talk to differeed to diff players how it torments them and we have many trying to justify why the police were actualfully the rights of how they were reacting. that has happened before. this is the problem, two different americas and two different realities. for black people in this country

is a reality of fear. that's something that's been difficult for a lot of people who don't have the reality. >> i find it hard to believe that this would be tolerated or supported if the dollars and cents did not work out for the nba and major league baseball and nhl, nfl to a degree. how did the sheer of bottom line of all of this factoring in considering you got sports league trying to make up revenue at a time where they can't sa safely. >> we'll have to see how the bottom line is affected. i don't have a great answer for you. i don't think anybody knows the bottom line. i think corporate culture has made a decision that this is as message that at the least on the surface willing to acknowledge.

this is going to set money on fire and they would not do it. i also think that coming up at the end of the first term or the trump administration could be something we don't know. coming up is something they're willing to let slide in 2017 because they believe it is a dawn of a new day. this day may be over and if this day is over then how are people going to look at some of the decisions they made prior, perhaps they're trying to get ahead of those. nobody says it is explicit but it certainly felt like that. >> the lakers put out a new release where they would be offering the staples center as a voting center. this give players one other things to think about in addition to doing well on the court or field or thinking of

their future and be active and safety, now their political stance is layered on top of that. is this is something they are embracing ordealing wit with -- what's the deal like? >> is that something you don't have a luxury of when you want to deal with it or when you want to deal it. a black man should not be shot in the back is a political staple, it is not partisan. that's a human issue. i think that's one of the things we have to remember is that and at this time when we have everyone's attention, we have not be afraid to ask for more. the nba's ceos really use their

positions and power that they have to push for real change. for instance, steve baldwin, can use their powers as billionaires to adopt police reform measures and if they don't, withhold some funding from them. we saw how it happens here in washington, d.c. as soon as you add dollars and cents, you can see a quick change and that's what i want to see. i want to see the nba ceos to really use their positions as billionaires to do more. it is great to have support and black lives matter but i want them to use their power in the most efficient way. >> thank you gentlemen, appreciate you both making time. thanks very much. let's get back to the blu

breaking news we were following. president trump will travel to kenosha on tuesday. he plans to meet with law enforcement and see the damages there. it is not clear if he'll meet with the family of jacob blake. let's get more from the latest white house's reporter who's on the line with us. shannon pettypiece. >> i do know it is something they have talked about and the president traveling there exacerbate tensions, something to be aware of. the president now said he'll travel or a white house spokesperson says he's going to

travel there on tuesday. the way it was described to reporters to meet with law enforcement and survey the damage. when this white house person was asked whether he'll be meeting with the blake's family, he said the schedule has not been ironed out yet. that's not the intent and soul purpose of the trip in any way. we know mark meadows had reached out to the family. he confirmed the report last week, he spoke to the family's pastor and express sympathy and support to the pastor. there has been some levels of outreach prior to the family. this is going to be a remarkable trip to see what happens here.

so much of the convention were focused around the protests. they were not focused on the police shooting themselves. the president has been have r clear in his support for law enforcement and the white house has not expressed the idea that there could be some middle ground. there has been little signs they feel little ground between supporting law enforcement and at the same time wanting to see improvements and real meaningful changes taken place and there were some talks about dpgetting police reform, legislation from congress eight months ago. that has died down. obviously we'll see how this is handled and what some of the response of the flow back is. >> donald trump won wisconsin in

2016. he's not stepping in unfamiliar or unfriendly territory. kenosha has a lot of things they want to say to him. he's making this trip after having come from texas and louisiana, surveying storm damage and now going to kenosha, dealing with what's both a civil hot, a hot button issue but also an issue he spoke about at the rnc and saying that you would not be safe in joe biden's america. all of this feels like it is very much braided together. >> one of the most important state in this election, if the president holds everything else that he held in 2016, he has to

win michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin. he can lose michigan and pennsylvania where he's trailing significantly. he has to win wisconsin if he holds onto everything is. wisconsin is one of the most important point in this election and like you said, at the same time the president's reelection method is this law and order and really all the under line issues and police shooting. >> we'll wait more details and reactions from the jacob blake's family. we are also following another developing story. this one affects our election

security this november. the national intelligence had been briefing congress in person about election security and foreign election interference. that office revealed that those in person briefings will stop, 66 days outside of the actual election. the intelligence committee will still get written briefings. that could mean questions that takes days to answer or weeks. >> there has been numerous reports including russia trying to interfere in our election again. the briefing was called shameful by house speaker nancy pelosi and adam schiff. without those meetings they consider the full range of tools available to the house to compel and compliance. nbc's national security and justice, ken dilanian.

ken, let's start with you, can you put a final point on the impact of not having these in person briefings? this goes back to the 1980s law. they are obligated to keep the congress continuing intelligence development. that's in the law. members of congress needs to ask officials in person that they put in front of them. a concern that they want to be on the same page. what it means is they don't want a career -- a career fbi agent

going in and answering questions of his view of the intelligence. what happens as a result of that democrats were criticizing the way the intelligence was port y portrayed and down playing the impact of russians interference designed to help donald trump. those countries don't want trump to feget elected. what i find interesting today, joshua, is none of the key republicans or the chairman of the committee or leaders of congress have said to worry about this c. congressmen are heavily worried about this. >> president trump tweeted the following and i would like to get your reaction. >> probably shifty schiff but others leak information to the fake news. no matter what or who it is about, these deranged low life

plays better for them at dni doing a great job. >> thoughts? >> i think the reason why the president and the white house don't want this is in-person briefing is simple. they are trying to mussel their public servants who's trying to tell the truth and trying to call balls and strikes about what's going on with the intelligence and quite frankly he does not like the fact that they have revealed russia is actively interfering in these elections today. they are doing so in a way that's completely different than fundamental ways of what happened in 2016. that's why it is so important for us to meet with them and be able to probe what they know and what they need and what resources we need to prevent the

russians from interfering in 2020 with the same effect that they did in 2016. >> this is from andrew bait. donald trump solicited foreign interference multiple times with respect to the three countries that we know about. it is deeply alarming and this should be reversed immediately. ken dilanian, what i am act or authority perhaps is there to change the way this is done? the director of national intelligence, john ratliff answered to the president,s the intelligence committee has oversight there but who has the leverage here. i would like your perspective

here but ken, what's your sense of who has the leverage. >> congress does not have much much leverage here. we know congressional subpoenas take a long time to enforce and we are ten weeks from the election. the executive branch -- it does not say in what form. there may be a legal challenge to it. this was the last bipartisan area in washington, oversight intelligence where the executive branch agreed to give congress -- that's broken down here but unfortunately, i don't see it any way especially if republicans are standsing up to trump. i don't see any leverage that congress has to change this. >> congressman moothi are there any particular, i know there are certain things you can't disbut to the extent that you can, are

there certain concerns that you have, related to elections security that makes you willing to go to the matt to get back to in-person briefings or do you think your concerns can be reasonably answered through e-mails basically? >> i am not sure about e-mails but we have to see what type of written products they give to us. the intelligence committee and administration comes to us regularly with request for changes and programs and additional funding and other requests that we try to accommodate on a bipartisan bas basis. in a situation where we are not given full information about how to protect the most important election in our lifetime of interference from the same country that attacked us in

2016, i can see how that process may have some hurdles in it. all that being said, i want to say career public servants in the intelligence committee are the finest people in the world, the problem is that this administration does not want th jobs and does not want them to tell the truth and when they do tell the truth, they suffer the consequences. they either get fired, reassigned or force to resign. that's what happened to dni coats. >> there is a statement that was just put out by marco rubio, the acting chair of the senate regarding these briefings. looking at it real quickly, let me read a piece of this to you and get your reaction. your first in part to this notion that the president put forth of information being leaked for political purposes. let me read you a chunk of these

statements and get your reaction. >> it is a series of crimes of consequences on national security. he goes on. yes, this misconduct does not release the community and to keep members fully informed of relevant information on a timely basis. i have spoke to director ratliff who stated he'll fulfill these obligations, in particular, he made it clear that the senate committee on intelligence will continue to receive briefings on all oversight topics including election night. that's the statement from the intel committee. >> congressman moorthi, i know i am just reading this for the

first time. what's your reaction to that? >> he did not say that he would do the same for the house, the intel committee and the house have been probing with regards to the issue. all that being said, i hope that dni ratliff revisit this issue. we are not going to stop covid-19 and asking these pressing questions especially russia is attacking our elections right now. >> nbc's ken dilanian and congressman moothi, on a story that literally changing by the minutes. appreciate seeing you both. coming up, we'll have more on the breaking news that president trump will make a trip to

kenosha this tuesday, following the shooting of jacob blake. there is more ahead, stay with us. ake. there is more ahead, stay with us hey, kids!

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the white house tells us president trump will travel to kenosha, wisconsin on tuesday. he'll meet with law enforcement and vasurvey the damages. when asked if the president will meet with the family of jacob blake's, the white house said that schedule has not been ironed out yet. let's continue, good to see you both, congresswoman, what do you think of this news of the president going to be visiting kenosha on tuesday. >> the president of the united states spent a week at the convention and never mentioned jacob blake's name. the president has not said one

word about a 17-year-old walking around the streets of kenosha with a rifle and shooting and killing two people and wounding another. the president has not said anything about police in kenosha are holding jacob blake's t-shirt while shooting him seven times in the back. it is unclear to me what kpaexay the president will say on a visit to kenosha. >> jacqueline, what do you think, particularly of what we see at the rnc last week. there were some reference to law and order and during the president's acceptance speech on thursday, he referenced, her husband was a st. louis police officer that was killed during civil unrest there -- so i am not sure how to untether those

who things. >> black lives matter is also notable. these last ten weeks are going to come down to until election day, the messaging between the biden campaign and the trump campaign being law and order versing the president's hahnndlg coronavirus. and trump and his reelection campaign feeling like this message of law and order making people concerned and safety is a win for him. the trump campaign may be onto something to. these young suburban voter that is the biden campaign had been

going after, his problem with his character and these voters, sounded like they had a little bit of -- >> if president trump continues to make a campaign about their security and make them fearful for it could be problematic. months of violence that we seen comes from kyle witten house and far right vigilantes. >> i understand why he and kamala harris could find it logical as part of their campaign to go to kenosha and express solidarity. >> on the other hand if i was there i don't know how much i would want to become a political

football. obviously there is a political agenda to these protests. there is politics and poly-ticket. it feels like as sensitive area potentially for his campaign. >> i think that's a decision that how old come from the biden campaign in time. what we do know that joe biden has reached out to jacob blake's family. we knew that from early on. it was not an after thought as you are adding a couple of these events onto a campaign visit. we also know that president trump during the course of his rnc, as he touted law and order, we know the reason he's doing that is to play to the fears of white voters. i think we should call that out for what it is. i think you know the president

visiting kenosha -- he has asked the kenosha police force why they allowed kyle wittenhouse to walk by them after he murdered two people. i don't suspect the president is interested asking those questions that the public deserves answers to. >> morning council did a poll in terms of the convention bounce after each candidate gave their acceptance speech. different polls will say different things. it shows virtually no change in joe biden's image rating after the dnc. i don't know if anyone is going to expect anything unusual or irregular from donald trump's

visit. it feels like the campaign believ believes its best bet is to double down on what works in 2016 and at the expenses of bringing more people on their side except for those who stir away from joe biden. >> we have seen the trump campaign doubling down and there are several strategies. it is challenging to change people's minds where there are such silo ecosystem. i think what we saw was a lot of voters been on the edge and defense of the president and could not rationalize supporting him again. black men/women testified to the president's character and specifically said he's not racist and he supports women.

all these things we see the president publicly act otherwise. those soft voters i think we may see a serious swing going into the last ten weeks. >> congresswoman donna edwards and jacqueline from "the washington post," appreciate both of your time. still to come, jacob blake was shot in the back, a teenager killed two people. we'll get the perspective on why th this happened. stay close. this happened. stay close

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the unrest in wallace cisco started by two viral videos. blake was trying to get into his car. three of his children were in the backseat, one was celebrating a birthday. blake's family says he's

paralyzed from the waist down. he's been restrained from his hospital bed. the warrant has been vacated and the restraint had been removed. protests in kenosha and nationwide and adding for growing demand for law enforcement. then came another video. 17-year-old kyle rittenhouse armed with a semi rifle, prosecutors say he shot two protesters dead and injured a third. he was not arrested until hours later after he had gone back home. mr. rittenhouse faces intentional and reckless homicide. >> joining us now the chairperson of the national black police association. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me.

>> how did it happen? how can these two cases treated in different ways from the same police department. the easy answer is raicism and unspoken prejudice, is that simple or more to it. >> i think it is that simple. for hundreds of years we have been living under a duo justice system, one justice system for one set of people and another justice system is for black people. what you said is right on point. >> rittenhouse's defense team is calling it defense. if you are in a crowded situation and you shoot a civilian, you automatically have to start over. you can't hit one vicivilian an

finish the game. >> yes. >> you have to show perfect discretion in a perfect situation. with that in mind, what defense do you see for this young man at his actions? i am thinking realistically in terms of how the criminal justice system works. >> sure, it just so happens i am a gamer so i understand that analo analogy. a lot of people asked me this week about training. so what we had was three officers who were trying to take someone into custody. there was a struggle and we saw some fists flying and mr. blake gets up, we know that he was tased, i don't know how many times but he started walking towards his car. things get murky here. some of the details were he might have had a knife or he said hef was going to get a gun. hands down, myself and all the veteran officers i spoke to,

agreed. you don't let someone get to their car if you think they're going to have a weapon. now we know he has children in the car, we can't imagine that he was really, really trying to start something that may have those children hurt. police are not trained to have everyone go home -- police are trained to make sure police go home. there is a saying that you rather be judged by 12 or carried by six. that's not part of the mindset that police officers are taught. >> miss pruitt, conversations another day about gaming.

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chadwick boseman's commencement address to the 150th class of howard university. >> on this day, when you have reached the hilltop squand you deciding on next steps, careers, further education. you would rather find purpose, than a job or a career. purpose crosses disciplines. purpose is an essential element of you. it is the reason you are on the planet, at this particular time in history. your very existence is wrapped up in the things you are here to fulfill. whatever you choose for a career path, remember, the struggles along the way are only meant to shape you for your purpose. when i dared to challenge the system that would relegate us to victims and stereotypes, with no clear, historical backgrounds, no hopes or talents.

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the light of new realization shines on you, today. howard's legacy is not wrapped up in the money that you will make, but the challenges that you choose to confront. as you commence to your paths, press on with pride, and press on with purpose. god bless you. i love you, howard. howard forever. >> chadwick boseman, speaking to howard's class of 2018. we would love to hear from you. how are you finding ways to press on with purpose? we're dealing with so much, these days. covid-19 and civil unrest and police brutality and natural za disasters and the election. what's been knocking you down? and what helps you get back up? e-mail us talk@msnbc.com.

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in the way that i have been talking about it, am i saying anything that strikes you as wrong? or anything that feels like a problem? >> all right. happy friday. as chris said, this week, as all of you know, was 47 days long. and so, getting to friday at the end of a 47-day-long week is an accomplishment, on its own. but we're all here together. superhappy to have you and today was sort of a remarkable day, in its own right. over the course of what's happened, today was a remarkable day, particularly in our nation's capital in washington, d.c. >> arms length. social distancing, y'all. put your arms out like that. we're going to be reminding you of this, during