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steven b. >> have a good weekend. bye! that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. pp. good morning. breaking news right now on msnbc. at least one person is dead after a caravan of trump supporters clashed with protesters in portland overnight. it is now being considered a homicide investigation. this taking place in portland as the president prepares to go to another location if there's plenty of unrest in kenosha, wisconsin. the nba playoffs returned after a historic walk out. players taking a knee and demanding big changes, but more importantly you see it right there, paying ohmage to three people that we lost all within the last week. within the last 48 hours for some of them. plus top intel officials
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will stop briefing congress in person on election threats. president trump accusing democrats of leaking the intel. the stunning change with only 65 days until the election. and tomorrow's u.s. open will be unlike any other in history. it's a perfect sport for social distancing, but will the players be able to stay safe? we will dig into it with a live report as we do say good morning on this sunday, it is august 30th. turning out to be a very, very, very busy sunday morning. i'm kendis gibson. we're going to start on the west coast right now and the breaking news out of oregon. portland, oregon. possibly hitting a tipping point overnight. another night of unrest turns to gunfire and one person we are told is dead. okay. so gunshots first heard around 9:00 p.m. local time, 12:00 eastern -- 12:00 eastern time. the shots were heard in downtown portland. when cops got to the scene they found one person dead with a gunshot wound to the chest.
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let me explain one thing, portland was sort of fixing for a fight on this day 94 of protests. you had a large pro-trump caravan that rolled through the city earlier, hundreds of cars and trucks carrying trump 2020 supporters, they clogged portland's tiny downtown streets and there were many reported clashes between black lives matter supporters as well. several news outlets reporting clashes and fist fights even throughout the overnight hours between those pro-trump supporters and counterprotesters. president trump has made portland and the protests a focus of his 2020 campaign, it's not clear, though, if the shooting is related to all of those clashes that we saw earlier in the evening. we will keep an eye on what is happening in portland because it continues to be a powder keg. also new tensions in kenosha, wisconsin, this morning. a vigil was being held for two people killed during protests in the city following the shooting of jacob blake. nbc's kathy park has more.
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>> reporter: passionate pleas from kenosha, wisconsin, demanding justice, this time for jacob blake. family members overcome by emotion, and passion for change. the shooting that paralyzed blake and sparked a deadly
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companies are using the coronavirus pandemic to figure out their workforce, reshape it, adapt and because of that we're seeing an on those folks and them havin you get a sense of these jobs t will eventually come back once restrictions are lifted, if restrictions are ever lifted. >> yes, the hope is that if we actually get a coronavirus vaccine we can getíb+p handle o the pandemic and once we have a handle on the panned then it n would give the u.s. economy a
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chance to recover.o we want to get back to the total employment.ploy the employment we had pre-coronavirus pandemic so that we can get consumer spending back to levels it was before. i so all of that is critical. fed chair jerome powell even said that in order for the u.s.e economy to really prosper we os need that handlepe on the coronavirus pandemic. >> speakinge of getting the handle on the coronavirus, i ro want tona talk to you about lk something that you wrote about, an interesting concept here on yahoo finance in which you talk about one economist who suggested that the government should pay americans $1,000 each to take the coronavirus vaccine. i'm all for them to pay me $1,000 and i will take the vaccine, are you good for it, joe? yeah, we're in. but what's that about? >> yeah, so absolutely, kendis. the problem is that the u.s. is right now in a race to get a coronavirus vaccine, h8du healt officialshñ are concernedú that there are too many people who wouldn't take it once it becomes available. the goal of the vaccine is to
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help the country reach herd immunity. that's about 70% of the u.s. e population getting the vaccine. once you reach herd immunity then it's likely that the virust will be contained and we can goe back to cnormal. we don't necessarily have to n wear the masks or gloves for too much longer, we would be able to control the spread of the coronavirus pandemic with herd immunity. this economist who actually served in the president clinton administration says why not just pay people $1,000 each to take the vaccine so we can reach herd immunity as quickly as possible. his biggest concern is the fact that we are spending trillions of dollars in trying to deal with the coronavirus vaccine. it would actually cost $275 billion to reach herd immunity with 80% of the population paying them $1,000 but he's saying that's a bargain compared to the trillions we're paying right now. >> sibile, thank you. new jobs numbers out next friday, what do which expect? >> we will have to see. there have been a lot of layoffs
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recently so we will have to brace ourselves. >> we will check back with 4 p &h(lc% >> juthanks, rokendis. >>;g so this video, this piece video right here, what is about to happen is not cool. it's actually quite dangerous. that jet that you're seeing there, that's a russian fighter jet. the vantage point is from a b 52 bomber and that pass-by, that is less than 100 feet from the u.s. jet. it was so powerful it actually shook the american soldiers that were -- and fighter pilots that were on board. this is all taking place over the black sea. how bad was it? the defense department to release the video of friday's close call said the russian fighter came within 100 feet of the nose of the b 52 bomber, you can even see and hear the turbulence that was caused and the russians did this several
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times over. joining me now is colonel jack jacobs, a retired u.s. army colonel and medal of army recipient also an msnbc analyst. i said it's not cool and also dangerous but in your terms what's at play? >> well, it is very dangerous and it shows the russians are actively testing out our capabilities and reaction. they are always trying to see how we react to things like this. they do it more frequently now than they have done in the last few years or so and we had some encounters not just over the black sea, but not far from the united states up in alaska where we share -- we are only about 50 -- about 50 miles apart. by and large they are just trying to see how we're going to react and to the extent that we don't react it motivates them to
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get even closer. >> how would we react to this sort of stuff? this is not the first time the russians have done this where they've done these dangerous games in the sky. >> yeah, well, i mean, there are lots of ways to do this so i don't think we're doing many of them and that includes talking face-to-face to work out what we can do and what they can do to prevent this sort of thing from happening again. it's not entirely clear where the decision was made in the russian hierarchy to do this sort of thing, but one can assume that it's at the highest levels. but the only thing that can alleviate a potential mistake, a mishap, a catastrophe is for our people to sit down with their people and tell them to knock it off in person. >> and i'm not sure if the administration is doing that at this rate. they are so close the two pilots could easily just kind of talk to each other.
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so the russian government has recently blamed u.s. troops for coalition of russian and u.s. military vehicles in northeast syria that injured at least we're told four americans, some injuries ranging from concussions and such. so this that we saw right there over in the seas, over the black sea, have been an act of retaliation? >> yes, it could have been. the russians like to retaliate. but it also could have -- they do it all the time in any case and so, i mean, this is -- this is as close as i've ever seen it. they do it all the time in any case and so they're always trying to be provocative. yes, the russians are into retaliation all the time. one of the things they've noticed is that we are not into retaliation, which you could argue motivates them still further to continue to probe how we're going to react to provocations such as this. >> well, the key part that scared me is when colonel jack jacobs says this is as close as
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you have seen t it's frightening for us to watch and if it's frightening for you to watch that means this is a dangerous situation. hopefully we have somebody who will say knock it off. not sure to that person is. >> our military talks to their met tear, but we are not motivated at the highest levels to get this fixed and a catastrophe is liable to happen if we don't fix it. >> colonel jack, thank you. president trump hopes to scare so-called suburban housewives into voting for him. is it working? like is he scaring them into voting for him or just scaring them?
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we for sure are going with biden. for sure. we -- i just feel like this county has -- is probably shifting towards biden because of trump's track record over the last, what, three-plus years. >> i'm very undecided. i don't know who i want to vote for. i'm not hearing anybody talk about getting rid of carbon emission in low income areas, i'm not hearing anybody talk about financial equity and creating real equity of people of color and also caucasian people. >> some voters in kent county, michigan, in the western part of the state, home to many established republicans speaking with nbc's vaughn hillyard. president trump you may recall
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won that battle ground state narrow legal, just 11,000 votes in 2016. with 65 days to go until the election what do suburban women or as the president calls them suburban housewives actually think of donald trump. chris jansen and dasha burns traveled to battle ground states where women shared their thoughts on the race for the white house. >> a tweet from the president, he has been going after voters like you, women living in suburban areas. what's your response to that? >> i don't -- i think laughter. i don't know what to think. >> in one speech recently i called you suburban housewives and they all loved it, but they said, sir, i don't know if that's politically correct. i said, don't worry about it, they will get over t right? >> by blanketing every woman as a suburban housewife is offensive. what they need to focus on is here is my issue and this is why you should vote for me, not
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because this is where you live and i'm i'm going to have a dog whistle. >> we aren't 1950s housewives anymore, we are educated strong women who are trying to raise families while working full-time out of the home, a lot of us are and to make us think that we are going to be -- defund the police, we're going to be overrun in our communities by all these bad people is ludicrous. >> i'm not suburbs and i also have children and i'm not voting for donald trump because when he is saying that he is speaking to a certain base which he's obviously not including me in that -- in that base. >> you think it's racist? >> yes, it is. i mean, there's no way -- other way around that. >> i think that if anything he needs to get on board with the fact that the suburban moms are out there wanting to educate our children, making sure that they understand the privilege that they have in their lives that a lot of children don't have because i point that out to my kids constantly and i'm so fired up and passionate about making
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sure that i'm raising good citizens. >> for me just speaking as a black woman, it's hard to tune out. just six months ago i was called the "n" word to my face at work multiple times, so the economy and all of those things i get that they are a problem, but they are a problem for my children, you know, this is the problem for my children and the economy doesn't matter. >> he also said the innovation of neighborhoods will undermine safety for the suburban housewife. do you feel threatened? >> oh, gosh, no. i feel threatened by so many other things. that's completely racist. what i feel scared of is more the rise of white nationalism and people having funs who shouldn't have guns, who aren't trained. >> i find myself very open-minded, i'm in that -- that doesn't -- i'm not in that suburban mom group that he's referring to. >> fascinating conversation and take from so many suburban woman. our thanks to chris jansing and dasha burns for bringing that to
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