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questions raised about the security of your vote. >> this attack by the president, this false justification for not briefing the congress, is just not a false justification. they don't want the american people to know the russians are once again trying to elect donald trump. and hitting the campaign trail. joe biden says he's ready to drop facetime and pick up a mic near you. so, how will he do it? and this week, we saw u.s. forces clash with russian soldiers in syria. what this means for u.s./russian relations. plus, learning to slow the spread of coronavirus. a part of europe celebrated as a success to slow the virus is now seeing a rise in cases. what can the u.s. do to avoid that same fate with fall right around the corner? we begin the hour in portland, oregon, where police say a man was shot and killed last night as supporters of president trump and black lives
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matters protesters clashed in the streets. it's unclear whether the opposing protests were connected to the shooting, but a homicide investigation is under way. possible video of the shooting in portland has been circulating online and we want to warn you, the video is disturbing. [ gunshots ] >> go, go, go. [ bleep ] >> president trump has responded to the shooting as well as the clashes this morning with a storm of tweets and retweets. one in which he claimed portland mayor ted wheeler a fool and incompetent and he called for the national guard to be brought in. nbc's erin mclaughlin joins me with the latest. what are you hearing about the investigation today? >> the homicide investigation is ongoing, lindsey. authorities urging everyone to avoid drawing conclusions as
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they try to establish the facts. we know that it happened at 8:46 p.m. on saturday. the victim unidentified, although according to a getty image still taken from the scene, he was wearing a far right logo that was attached to his hat he was wearing on the scene. he was pronounced dead. no arrests so far have been made. we have been speaking to a citizen journalist who was there at shooting by the name of justin dunlap. he said he was there, called to reports of pro-trump protesters causing trouble in the area. he said he arrived, the scene was calm. he was about to leave when all of a sudden he saw yelling. he also saw mace and gunfire simultaneously. he saw the victim move a few steps away and drop to the ground. he said he saw two individuals running in the other direction. all of this now being combed through by investigators.
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yet another night of unrest there for portland. we heard from the acting department of homeland security secretary, chad wolf, say when it comes to portland, all options are on the table. >> i believe all options continue to be on the stable, specifically as we talk about portland. they continue to refuse any type of federal assistance to bring that violent activity going on for almost 90 days now, a little over 90 days, to a close. the citizens of portland juan this. we need to bring some normalcy back to portland. >> worth noting that portland is, of course, a liberal city. i was there last month as federal agents were clashing with protesters. i had yet to speak to a single person who lives in portland who thinks that more federal presence there in their city is a solution to this situation. lindsey. >> very important context. nbc's erin mclaughlin, thank
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you. from portland to d.c. where protests overnight led to a tense standoff with police. protesters calling for racial justice clash with police as they converge onto black lives matter plaza near the white house. marchers toppled trash cans and set small fires there, leading police in riot gear to deploy what appears to be chemical irritants in the air over the plaza. five officers were injured and some protesters received minor injuries. now to minneapolis, where after a week of more violence and unrest, the city remains under a state of emergency order until tomorrow morning. mayor jacob frye declared the temporary order earlier this week when misinformation about a man's suicide led to widespread rioting and looting in downtown minneapolis. several dozen people were arrested. so far, though, no citywide curfew has been set for tonight. and in kenosha, wisconsin, nearly one week after jacob blake was shot seven times by a
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white police officer, and after two demonstrators were killed while protesting his death, people there are still searching for answers. nbc's shaquille brewster is in kenosha with the latest. we saw you at the rally and protest yesterday. what's the latest on the investigation now, and how is jacob blake doing? >> well, not much more, lindsey, on the investigation. we know it is in the hands of the state officials, the state department of justice. so we know the officers are on administrative leave and we know there's aubt 30-day timeline for when state investigators will continue their investigation and then hand over a report to prosecutors to make a possible charging decision. but the latest on mr. blake's condition as we know it from the family is that he is awake. he is alert in the hospital, he has been communicating with his family. his mother went to visit him yesterday, and we expect his father to do so today. his family is still asking for the prayers of people around the city and people all across the country. that's the latest on the investigation. we continue to wait to hear if we will hear any more details
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about exactly what happened and what led to the shooting that was exactly one week ago. lindsey. >> you were at the protest/rally yesterday. how did that go? >> it was very peaceful. a largely peaceful protest. at least 1,000 people, well over, i would estimate. we saw and heard from the blake family, fwbut we also saw and heard from political leaders, and then the range of people there. it was a very diverse group. a young group of people, and things really remained peaceful throughout the protest. i'll tell you, having conversations with people today, there's a little bit of concern that what we saw this weekend might change as we go through the week, and as we have that presidential visit on tuesday, "the new york times" is reporting that vice president biden will be visiting on monday, and we know from the white house that president trump is scheduled to come through on tuesday to talk to law enforcement and survey the damage. listen to a little bit of my conversations with people here about how they're reacting to the president's visit.
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>> don't have a problem with it. as a matter of fact, i would like to see more of biden. you know, he's been kind of hiding out for a while. and i would like to see interaction between the two of them. >> i think it's fantastic. president trump won kenosha by about 280 votes. i think it's going to galvanize the people that are sick and tired of what's gone on here. >> i think it would be better for the city to handle the situation that's happening before we have, you know, a heightened need for anyone else to visit or security in that way or anything. >> now, as i said, lindsey, the president is expected to survey damage and also meet with law enforcement. the white house is not saying whether or not he will meet with the blake family. we don't -- we know his comments have been fairly limited in that regard. as far as the vice president, we know the vice president has spoken to the blake family. blake's father yesterday saying that he was a friendly conversation. he called him uncle joe in that conversation. so you see a little bit of the varying tactics from the
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president of the united states and the vice president running for president. to see how they're addressing this and how they're handling the situation here in kenosha. lindsey. >> shaquille brewster on the ground in kenosha, whisk wick, thanks, shaq. >> the nba playoffs are back under way after an unprecedented pause as players staged a league-wide boycott to call for social justice reform. the boycotts began when the milwaukee bucks walked out on their playoff game in response to the police shooting of jacob blake. other major sports leagues quickly followed suit, stopping their seasons in solidarity. as part of the restart agreement between the league and the players union, some nba arenas will be used as polling placies for the 2020 election. last night, the games finally resumed with many players still showing their support on the court for black lives matter and social justice. >> we are just ten weeks away from the presidential election. and a new online poll from yahoo and ugov shows joe biden's lead over donald trump has tightened
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to six points after the republican national convention. so biden is stepping up by announcing he'll resume in-person campaigning after labor day. in a way that he says is, quote, totally consistent with being responsible, unlike what this guy is doing. biden is also pushing back against the idea suggested at the rnc that president trump is the law and order president while speaking to the national guard yesterday. >> i promise you as president i'll never put you in the middle of politics or personal vendettas. i'll never use the military as a prop or as a private militia to violate rights of fellow citizens. that's not law and order. you don't deserve that. >> the director of national intelligence is doubling down today on his announcement that his agency will stop briefing congress in person about foreign election interference. this morning on fox news, john ratcliffe said congressional leaks are to blame for the decision. within minutes of that one of those briefings ending, a number
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of members of congress went to a number of different publications and leaked classified information, again, for political purposes, to create a narrative that simply isn't true, that somehow russia is a greater national security threat than china. >> josh lederman joins us now from the white house. good to see you. good afternoon. there's been some pushback from the senate intelligence committee. what can you tell us about that? >> the senate intelligence committee has historically been known as the least partisan committee in the senate. they have a real tradition of leaving some of the partisan politics aside and working together pretty well on security threats to the nation. the republican co-chair of that committee, marco rubio, is laying out a really stark dilemma that is posed by this situation. because he says that the leaks of classified information that he blames on some of his fellow lawmakers are grotesque,
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criminal misconduct but says it does not abdicate the responsibility of the administration to keep congress informed. he says congressional oversight is now facing a historic crisis, going on in the statement to say that intelligence agencies have a legal obligation to keep congress informed, but that members of congress also have a legal obligation not to divulge classified information. so we're going to have to see how that gets sorted out, but we're learning in the last 24 hours or so more about what exactly the information that apparently leaked that the administration was so concerned about. and it had to do with russia. we're learning both from ratcliffe as well as from intelligence officials that the administration was very upset about information that made its way into the press after a briefing about a month ago that led to headlines indicating that russia was trying to help once again president trump get re-elected and hurt his opponent, joe biden. that's a narrative that the president really does not want to be out there ahead of his re-election in november. and in the last few minutes or
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so, we're also getting a little bit of new information by way of nbc's ken dilanian who has learned from two sources that the fbi and the homeland security department, they are going to continue to hold in-person briefings for congress, despite the fact that the director of national intelligence is not going to do that. the fbi and the dhs, they'll be able to tell congress about things like cyber efforts to interfere, disinformation, but when it comes to foreign actors and intelligence about what country might be trying to threaten which candidate, that's something that's left up to the white house and national intelligence. those briefings no longer going to happen in person, lindsey. >> isn't that the meat, though? isn't that the crux? we hear all of these reports about russian interference and chinese and iranian interference. isn't that the crux of who is doing this and how that congressional leaders need to know? >> absolutely, and house democratic lawmakers say that's exactly the reason they need to have those briefings in person,
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so they can question officials from the intelligence community about what the russians and other countries are doing so they can get more information. adam schiff, the house intelligence committee chairman, basically accusing ratcliffe this morning of trying to cover up information about what russia is doing by limiting the ability of congress to ask pointed questions of the intelligence community. >> josh lederman at the white house, thank you. hurricane laura may be over, but relief efforts have only just begun. the storm tore through the gulf coast last week, killing at least 16 people. and leaving a wide path of destruction across multiple states, including louisiana. where hundreds of thousands are likely to still be without power for some time, as a result of this powerful hurricane. nbc's morgan chesky is in lake charles, louisiana, with more. you rode out the storm. lake charles saw some of the worst damage from laura. and president trump toured the area yesterday. what relief can people expect in the coming days? >> reporter: lindsey, it's going
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to be a tough road ahead, no doubt. we know the president saw some of the devastation here in lake charles, and this really took the brunt of laura's force when it roared ashore, bringing winds 150 miles per hour in some places along the coastline. there's been a lot of discussion about the damage that laura has brought. this city was spared from the worst of that storm surge that was anticipated to be about 20 feet high. but what it did not escape were those incredibly powerful winds. if you ask anyone who lives here for some time, everyone goes back to hurricane rita in 2005 as kind of the hurricane of record in their own memory. they say this one was worse, simply because no matter where you look, building after building in this city and in the surrounding area, there's so much damage. nothing was left untouched. we're looking at damage estimates anywhere from 12 to 20 billion dollars here. at this point in time, the recovery process trying to begin in earnest, but we still have places that are cut off by trees that are blocking roads, and an extensive amount of damage. we do know that three of the
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city's six water plants were temporarily knocked offline. they have been able to salvage some of those to get 75% capacity here for the city of lake charles. but an incredible problem here is that every uprooted tree, every downed power line could be potentially ripping up water pipes, water lines throughout this entire area. and that's just going to complicate this entire recovery effort. we know that as you mentioned, hundreds of thousands of people are without power. we're starting to see some of that relief effort come into this area now that roads are back open. in fact, in just a few minutes we're heading to a nearby church handing out hundreds of meals because there are people right now, maybe they're lucky and have a generator to have some electricity, but not everybody does. you couple that with the fact we're still in a hot summer and it's an incredibly frustrating time for so many people here in lake charles. >> we're showing drone video of roofs completely ripped off buildings. trees down, the damage we see you behind as well, just
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catastrophic for the people in lake charles. morgan chesky in lake charles, louisiana, thank you. still ahead, the search for solutions as the united states grapples with more grim covid milestones. where are we in the fight against coronavirus and what lessons can we learn from other countries? ♪ thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer, which is breast cancer that has spread to other parts of the body, are living in the moment and taking ibrance. ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenopausal women or for men with hr+/her2- metastatic breast cancer, as the first hormonal based therapy. ibrance plus letrozole significantly delayed disease progression versus letrozole, and shrank tumors in over half of patients. patients taking ibrance can develop low white blood cell counts, which may cause serious infections that can lead to death. ibrance may cause severe inflammation of the lungs
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we have breaking news to bring to you. just in to our newsroom, the united states has now officially reached 6 million confirmed coronavirus cases. and with that comes a sober forecast for the fall. johns hopkins university and the cdc releasing new data projecting more than 200,000 covid deaths by september 19th. almost 300,000 new cases diagnosed were just in the past week. as mask mandates remain a contentious topic around the country. the university of alabama now has 1,000 confirmed coronavirus
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cases as their outbreak has continued to spread since the semester began. the university reported more than 500 new cases this week alone, and some are questioning the school's decision to reopen in the first place. university officials said they would be ready to switch to online classes at any time, but so far, there's no word on when or if that would even happen. alabama has more than 30,000 students currently enrolled for the fall semester. >> immigrations and customs enforcement have reported 233 new confirmed cases of covid-19 in an arizona detention camp, according to new reports. the lupalma correctional facility in arizona has had a total of 356 cases of covid to date. exponentially higher than other facilities reporting single digit increases. while unclear how many people are being held in la palma, an i.c.e. spokesperson said the agency recently expanded virus testing on site. nationwide, more than 21,000
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people remain in i.c.e. custody. >> with the united states surpassing 6 million confirmed coronavirus cases and with more than 183,000 lives lost, the stakes have never been higher in finding a cure. so far, more than $10 billion has been invested into candidate vaccines through operation warp speed with at least four of them expected to be in large-scale clinical trials by mid-september. joining me to dive deeper is senior scholar at johns hopkins center for health security, dr. aneesh adologia. thank you for joining us today. today in an interview with the financial times, the fda chief said he's prepared to bypass the full federal approval process in order to make a covid vaccine available as soon as possible. so what dangers are there in fast tracking something like this? do the benefits here outweigh the risks? >> so it depends upon how much data we have. we're all expecting we'll get an emergency youth authorization
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for a vaccine probably before phrase three clinical trials are complete. they should be issued in the way of other uaes where there's attention to safety as well as efficacy. we give a vaccine to people who are healthy. there's a high bar for vaccine safety which is different from when you're approving a treatment under emergency use, and we know there's a rabid anti-vaccine movement in this country and everywhere, and we don't need a mishap to fuel them and discourage people to get this vaccine. we want to make sure this is done well. >> let's talk about the timeline. dr. fauci said it's a safe bet we'll know whether there's a safe effective treatment by november. what are your thoughts on all these timeline predictions. >> i think dr. fauci is right. we'll start to have some phase three clinical data around that time, and we may see an approval or emergency use authorization in late december, if everything went according to the way we want it to go. when the vaccine is available, it's not available to everyone on january 1.
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it's a roll out and there will be priority groups so it may take over a year or so to get enough people vaccinated to cross that herd immunity threshold. even though people are talk about dates, and i wouldn't stick too much to any single date you're hearing now because something could come up in phase three clinical trials. it's still going to be some time that we're fighting this virus without the benefit of a vaccine. >> so even if we go into mass production, we could still be waiting a year until everybody gets access. >> right, and remember, it's two doses, not just one dose. it's not 330 million doses. it's 660 million doses. >> let's go to europe. we're watching cases there. the cases are ticking back up. some countries are seeing their highest daily case counts since the spring. we here in the u.s. haven't even gotten out of the first wave, let alone a second. what can we learn from europe as we head into the fall? >> we can learn that this virus is not going to go anywhere. no matter how much control you have, something that transmits very efficiently and has many
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people with mild symptoms who are contagious is going to continue to plague us until we actually have a vaccine to control it. so it's really important that people think about the fact that just because cases are low and you don't hear about it in the headlines and it seems to be under control, whatever part of the world or whatever part of the state it might be, it only takes social interaction to spark these things up. we need to make sure we have infrastructure to deal with these, testing, tracing, isolating. we have to do that until there's a vaccine and the majority of the world has taken it. >> doctor, a sobering dose of reality. thanks for your time today. still ahead, trump and the troops. russian war games and soldier skirmishes in syria. how this administration's approach to foreign policy is impacting the military. -da! did you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? i should get a quote. do it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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across the middle east today. starting with what is being called a groundbreaking peace agreement between israel and the
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united arab emirates. jared kushner traveled to the middle east early this morning where he and u.s. national security adviser robert o'brien joined israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu to celebrate the peace accord stepped between the two nations. he lauded the agreement as a historic breakthrough for the embattled region and praised his father-in-law, president trump, for spearheading the negotiations. >> president trump has been standing strongly with america's friends to accomplish our common goals and to defeat our common enemies. he has reversed 20 years of bad outcomes in the middle east. and he has built a strong foundation for even greater progress to be made. >> and as the administration continues to broker peace between some middle eastern nations, it's also taking steps to reduce america's presence in others. the "wall street journal" reported friday that the u.s. would cut troops in iraq by about one third to 3500 troops.
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those reports were later confirmed by u.s. officials who said the reduction would occur over the next two to three months and return american force levels roughly back to where they were in 2015 when the u.s. was in the early phase of its campaign against the islamic state. and on the heels of this announcement, another message from the pentagon, this time to russia. officials slammed russia's military on thursday for what it called deliberately provocative and aggressive behavior. following a collision between american and russian armored vehicles that injured multiple u.s. military personnel in syria. meanwhile, russia's defense ministry pinned blame squarely on u.s. troops, alleging the u.s. had been notified of the movements of the convoy and the collision occurred after u.s. troops tried to block the russian patrol. u.s. officials have denied this version of events while all injured u.s. personnel have since been treated and returned for duty. president trump spent most of his morning tweeting and
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retweeting about his poll numbers, protests in portland, and false claims about the coronavirus death toll in our country. so with trump focused on his re-election, and criticizing democratic leaders and a country still reeling from a pandemic and multiple hurricanes, are some foreign countries using this time to their advantage? "the new york times" reporting that this week's rnc skimmed over the president's unfinished business in foreign policy, quote, from iran to north korea, president trump has failed to achieve many of his stated foreign policy goals. he is asking for a second term to get them done. joining me now to discuss, retired u.s. navy admiral james stavridis, formernato allied supreme commander and diplomacy analyst. thank you for joining us. good to see you. amid everything going on right now and how the president is reacting to it, are other countries like russia and china using this time for their own benefit? >> absolutely, lindsey. let's start with russia. you see russia pushing in on the
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united states as recently as yesterday. we were flying b-52 bomber, fairly routine mission over nato nations in europe. and russian aircraft intercepted it over international air space, pushed them within 100 feet, really unprofessional activity. you can see the graphic there. in the high north, in the arctic region. we see the same thing. and this activity that you described very well in syria, russian military vehicles slamming into u.s. vehicles. this is really unprofessional. it is indicative of how russia is going to try to push on the united states during this period. we're seeing much of the same behavior from china, in hong kong, in the south china sea. yes, as we turn internally, bad actors internationally are going to take advantage. >> and the russian navy just conducted major war games near
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alaska days ago also. that involves dozens of aircraft and ships. combine that with the other two incidents we're talking about, this feels like an escalation. how concerned should we be, and what should our leaders be doing? >> it is definitely an escalation. i think there's three reasons for it. one is internal inside russia. vladimir putin's poll numbers are down. the opposition is rising. he tried to poison his leading opponent, navalny. all of that shows you that putin wants to strut on the international stage, so internal. secondly, putin, as always, is trying to find division between the united states and our allies. he does that by provoking incidents around the border of nato, and then thirdly, as you point out, lindsey, there's an inside the u.s. component to this, where putin is trying to take advantage, then he'll come back and try to show a relationship with trump. i think that has to do with internal politics here in the
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united states. look for a lot of continuing activity running up to the election. >> so with putin trying to strut his stuff on the world stage, do you think there will be pushback with the withdrawal of troops from iraq? we know there was major pushback when president trump withdrew trumps from northern syria. many said he was abandoning our kurdish allies. do you think for will be pushback for withdrawing troops from iraq? >> i think on both sides of the aisle. we're seeing that not just in the final withdrawals in iraq, but also in afghanistan. and linldz dsey, let's just put perspective for a minute. at the height of our engagement in these countries, we had 200,000 troops in iraq. when i commanded the commission in afghanistan, as supreme allied commander of nato, i had 150,000 troops there. we're already down to a few thousand in both places. people on both sides of the aisle in the congress, professional military analysts,
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and others would tell the president, don't withdraw those last few troops. it's not the right time to do that. >> admiral, while i have you, quickly before we let you go, what's your reaction to the odni announcing they won't be briefing congressional intelligence committees in person. >> absolutely reprehensible. there's no question as a people, americans are safer when there's congressional oversight. the best oversight comes from in-person briefings. i can tell you that, having been on the receiving end of thousands of briefs from intelligence professionals. you want to be able to question them. as americans, we want our elected officials on both parties to be able to question, trying to do it on paper is not sufficient. it is inappropriate, and i would say that needs to be reversed. >> admiral james stavridis laying out what's important, what's at stake. we're very grateful to you for
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recent protests in cities such as portland, washington, d.c., and kenosha, wisconsin, have brought america's fears of violence and chaos to the forefront of the 2020 election cycle. fears which president donald trump has done little to quell. though it contradicts decades of declines in violent crime nationwide, the president's bombastic law and order rhetoric has become the centerpiece of his campaign and evokes a frightening picture of america at war with itself as the presidential election looms. here's shaquille brewster with more. >> nobody needs a strong, trustworthy police force more
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than those who live in distressed areas, and nobody is more opposed to the small number of bad police officers, and you have them, they're very tiny. i use the word tiny. it's a very small percentage. >> and lately, trump says he's deploying hundreds of federal agents to major cities like chicago to fight crime. interestingly, public perception of crime rates has been wrong for a long time. while a majority of people year after year believe crime is going up, the reality is that crime has been consistently dropping for decades. >> the big story with crime rates is that they have been plummeting since the 1990s. they plummeted during the bush administration. they plummeted during the obama administration. and they have continued to fall during the trump administration. >> but this year may be different. david is a law professor at stanford. he explained while crime is down overall this year, during the
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pandemic, several cities are reporting an uptick in shootings and homicides. trump has put some of the blame on civil unrest following george floyd's death, but he says it's more complicated. >> many of these things have to do with the covid-19 pandemic. the fact that people have been stuck at home, may be increasing rates of domestic violence. the fact that hospitals are overwhelmed may have made some assaults that previously would not have been deadly, deadly assaults. the fact that the pandemic has caused the economy to go into a tailspin may be responsible for some of the increase in homicide. finally, there's some evidence that the state of police shootings, of particularly young black men, has led to decreased trust in the police by making it harder for the police to pursue
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the kinds of strategies that community policing requires. >> our thanks to shaq brewster for that reporting. >> president trump's emphasis on law and order was on display during last week's republican national convention. also trying to recast himself on issues of race and inclusivity. but did it work? i'm joined by joe watkins, a republican strategist and former white house aide to george h.w. bush. joe, good to see you. thanks for joining us. >> good to see you also. >> the rnc made an attempt to appeal to black voters on more than one night of the convention. let's take a look back. >> mr. vice president, look at me. i am black. we are not all the same, sir. i am not in chains. my mind is my own. >> democratic party does not want black people to leave their mental plantation. >> abandoned buildings, liquor stores on every corner. we want safety in our neighborhoods. >> it hurt my soul to hear the terrible names people call
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donald. the worst is racist. in the deep south, i have seen racism up close. i know what it is, and it isn't donald trump. >> now, we know that black voters are certainly not a monolith. we also know, i believe the number is around 13% of black men who voted for trump in 2016. during a time right now when social injustice is so front and center, is the president doing enough? >> i think certainly more could be done, and it would be great to see republicans and democrats come together and quit their squabbling to pass legislation that would create national police reform, national standards for police, so we can avoid these sad incidents that we have had. i mean, perhaps if we had gotten a law passed by democrats and republicans and signed by the president named for george floyd, perhaps jacob blake wouldn't have been shot. we need national police standards. we need standards that define for police how far they can go so they know they may not use chokeholds. they may not put their knee on
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somebody's neck, they may not shoot somebody while they hold their shirt. that's really important, and it's going to take republicans and democrats coming together to get legislation passed. tim scott has authored legislation in the senate, and the democrats have authored legislation in the house. they need to come together and get that passed and then signed by the president. that's the best outcome that people of color in america could have. >> the president, for example, is going to be visiting kenosha, wisconsin, on tuesday. he's not going to be meeting with activists. we don't believe he's going to be meeting with jacob blake's family. he's going to meet with law enforcement, the law enforcement community. what kind of message does that send? >> it sends saernlurgery a mess that the president is a strong supporter of the president. he's made a fair point that not all police are bad. i know that's true. i've got members of my own family who are police members, and they did their jobs well. the bad ones need to be rooted out, of course, and we need to have national standards that control their behavior, that
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certainly set parameters for how they behave when they arrest people. but that being said, this would be a great time for the president to reach out. great for him to meet with jacob blake's family. i don't know that jacob blake's family would be anxious to meet with him right now. they to be hurting given what happened to their son and brother. this would be an opportunity to reach out to people. i don't know if that's going to happen, but this would be an opportunity do that. >> i want to talk to you about evangelicals and their stance on racial reconciliation and how that's changed in the trump presidency. this "washington post" reporting saying white evangelics have joined protests and declared black lives matter but their continued support for president trump has disgusted black evangelical leaders. we saw president trump clear protesters in lafayette square so he could hold up that bible in front of a damaged church for the photo op we're showing people. that angered so many people. can there be a reconciliation
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between white and black evangelicals? >> you make a great point, lindsey. there's a divide, and it's going to continue. i think in the coming election cycle, you'll probably see the lion's share of white evangelicals vote for the president, and you'll see the lion's share of black evangelicals vote for joe biden. and that's just the way it is. there may be some movement around the margins, but for the most part, i think you're going to see that divide continue. and it just has to do with the current environment in the country, which is one of tremendous division. it doesn't have to be, but right now, we're very divided. and even among the christian family, there's division about who folks want to support politically. so again, i'm calling it early, but i'm saying black evangelicals vote in overwhelming numbers for joe biden and i believe white evangelicals will vote in overwhelming numbers for trump. >> joe watkins, thank you for joining us. still ahead, the future of
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this year marks 15th anniversary of hurricane katrina and yesterday new orleans resident gathered in lower 9th ward for an annual healing ceremony commemorating the lives lost during and after the storm. standing where the levees broke in 2005, gatherers poured out libations for the lost and capped off the ceremony with a four mile lost. it took the lives of nearly 2,000 people and caused more than $120 billion in damage. curb side dining has been the saving grace for many restaurants in major cities. while social distancing measures like eating outside can help slow the spread, a new and unexpected danger could be waiting for you on the other side of the table.
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we have the latest. >> reporter: even a pandemic hasn't soured america's love for going out to eat. out door dining programs across the country have become symbols of hope for bars and restaurants struggling to make ends meet as indoor dining restrictions continue. >> curb side dining has contributed to the boom in our business. there's no way we could have survived with only take out and delivery. >> reporter: as they set up shop on busy streets, the inef table has happened. >> new information on the frightening accident. a vehicle slammed into diners eating outside. several people were hurt. >> i knew it was possible but i didn't think it would happen. >> reporter: julian recalling the near miss captured on surveillance video. he have sitting outside when a pickup truck slammed into the out door dining area. you can see how close he was to being hit.
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>> the curb side dining, if you do it poorly, puts people in very close proximity to the hazard of traffic. >> reporter: rob has been tracking vehicle collisions into stores and buildings for the last eight years. >> we see four to aleight per year. this year we have seen close to 20. >> reporter: when curb side dining offered them a chance of survival, many city, including new york hurried to launch programs that would take longer to establish. >> we knew it would be the first way these businesses could really start making money. it was happen quickly. the application opened and a few days later people could put stuff out. we need a real conversation about what the regulations should be. consider the pandemic version of this like a pilot program. now we're going to put the long
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term program in place. >> the rush to reopen is a sincere effort to get the economy going and give relief to small business owners. you're a drunk away or an angry person away or a bad actor away from mass casualty. >> a mix of flexible wood and solid concrete structures are the future for keeping out door diners safe. we're awaiting an up day from the portland mayor on a deadly shooting. the press conference scheduled to begin in about an hour. stay with us. begin in about an. stay wh itus
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good afternoon. we begin with the latest out of portland, oregon. the mayor is scheduled to address the deadly shooting overnight. it happened on a night when supporters of donald trump and black live matters protesters clashed. however, it's not clear whether the shooting was connected to those protests. when the mayor stepping up to the mike, we'll bring that to you. a chaotic scene on the sfreets of washington, d.c. police officers in riot gear flashing off pepper spray. they con fronted police and toppled newspaper boxes and set some of them on fire. police say five officers were injured and some proterss received minor injuri

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