i'm joshua johnson. it's good to be with you tonight. the protests in portland began after the death of george floyd. now, a deadly shooting there is changing the debate over what happens next in oregon and across america. it's still unclear exactly what happened. we do know the shooting occurred after a series of clashes between protesters who have been in the streets for months and a group of trump supporters who confronted them. portland's mayor is laying blame for this squarely on president trump. >> do you seriously wonder, mr. president, why this is the first time in decades that america has seen this level of violence? it's you who have created the hate and the division. it's you who have not found a way to say the names of black people killed by police officers, even as people in law enforcement have.

and it's you who claimed that white supremacists are good people. >> president used the shooting to attack both the mayor and the protesters, or anarchists, as we called them. supporters that he tweeted war, in his words, great patriots. meanwhile joe biden is condemning violence across political lines and calling out the president's approach. he said in a statement he pointed to the president's unwillingness to directly call out his supporters, a sign of mr. trump's weakness. he added that neither presidential leadership or human compassion find value in what we called war in our streets. so who with whose america is this? presidential accountability was one point of debate this morning on meet the press. >> you want to talk about donald trump's america, most of donald trump's america is peaceful. it is a democrat-led city in

portland that we're talking about this morning who just yesterday denied help once again from the federal government. so he keeps talking about what biden's america would like like. this is trump's america. he has to own this moment. >> regardless of whose america this is, the president will be visiting one flash point within hit the week. the white house says he'll head to kenosha, wisconsin. both kenosha's mayor and wisconsin's governor are asking mr. trump to cancel the trip. let us begin with tim gordon, a reporter for our nbc affiliate kgw in portland. what has the reaction been to mayor ted wheeler firing back at president plump p trump? is this different than what we've heard the mayor say before? >> he's been firing back for quite a while. dmeez guys have a history, the

president and mayor of portland. they've never melt. but going back two years ago when we had a lot of protests going on, immigration and customs enforcement here in portland, they were sparring then but it's been especially intense for the past three months or so as we've had 94 days of protests today in portland. the reaction has been much the same. president trump is ramping it up with some of his tweets towards the mayor. >> where does the investigation into the shooting stand now? >> there's a lot of stuff floating around on social media and police are saying don't listen to that, they've got a long way to go. investigators not talking about any of their information that they're gathering at this point. we do know that this shooting happened, really is this car rally of a few hundred trump supporter vehicles in downtown portland was going on before 9:00 pacific time in portland

last night. a man was shot and died on the street here in portland. we can tell that you the pictures show he was wearing a patriot prayer ball cap. it's a local bar right group out of vancouver, washington, it's v its founder confirmed to us that the man who was shot, was, quote a good friend and supporter of patriot prayer. other than that, there's a name out there connected to a gofundme for an aaron j. danielson, joey gibson tweeted out on his social. that's who we believe is the victim in this shooting, the person who was shot. but police have not confirmed that at this point. >> all right. thank you, tim. tim gordon reporting live from portland. now, the city's mayor wheeler had more than just criticisms for president trump at today's news conference. he also suggested a way forward. >> we also see this coming and i've stood at this podium i

don't know how many times and have said that we must denoins the violence that, we must work together, that we must accurately address what's going on around systemic injustices in our community here in portland and hold ourselves accountable for what's happening here in portland, but the president has a role to play in this as well in acknowledging and understanding those systemic injustices nationally. and the tweets that he's been putting out in the last 48 hours attacking democratic mayors, attacking those who are trying to bring resolution to the violence in their local communities, he has an opportunity to uplift, doesn't bring us together and help us move through this difficult situation in our nation's history and instead he chooses to play petty politics and divide us. this would be a really good time for all of us to stand together and lock arms, to denounce the violence, to make the commitment

to the kind of changes and reforms people in this country are demanding and let's work together. wouldn't that be a message. donald trump and ted wheeler working together to help move this country forward. why don't we try that for a change. i'm going to do the work i need to do in my local community and my local officials to take accountsability for what's happening on our street and i'd appreciate if the president either support us of stay the hell out of the way. there's an olive branch opportunity here for all of us. we need to reset. the president needs to reset. i need to reset. the community needs to reset and america needs to reset. it's going to take his leadership in the white house and it's going to take my leadership here in city hall to get it done. let's the end violence, let's commit to that. is that something we can all agree on, that we are done with the violence? >> let's continue with senior writer for "rolling stone kwoirkts good evening, gentleman

people. >> good evening. >> i am skeptical that he's going to take up the offer. call me crazy. what do you think the up shot of today's news conference will be? >> i think the message that mayor wheefler is atemperaturing to convey is that i am interesting in governance. i am interested in leadership and i'm interested in ending the violence in the nation, and the president is not. he needs to put out the branch that he knows will not be taken by the president. thpt's interest lies in stoking this kinds of violence. his interest lies in making racial conflict, you know, more egregious and more noticeable and more vice president throughout the country, because frnkly he has no policies and record to sell for re-election. this is a person who's increased corruption, up creased plu to be ra si, increased racial division

and let a plague that is affecting black communities run ram passport. when he talks about great patriots, he need to look at the people protesting to make this country better, not the people who are satisfied with the way it is. >> president president trump vp trump tweeted earlier today. here's the twitter spread he sent out. he wrote in part quote ted wheeler, the wacky radical left do nothing mayor of portland, who has watched great death and destruction in his city during his tenure thinks this situation should go on the forever. wrong. portland will never recover with a fool for mayor. he goes on to write "the people of portland want law and order. the radical left democrat mayors like the dummy running portland or the guy right now in his basement unwilling to lead or even speak out against crime will never be able to do it. unquote. jemele, the politics of this

feel too thick for people who look like you and me to get anything done. i feel like black and brown people are going to lose this one. >> we already have lost, joshua. looking at the tweets of a child. that is somebody who is not fit to not only be president but not fit to be anywhere near governance. that is someone who is clearly lacking in the temperament and the knowledge and the intelligence in order to to do the job that is required and frankly, when you -- we continue to see these kinds of memphis from the president. what we need to do as citizens is guard against us becoming numb, when we see them. we cannot simply say, ok, there goes trump going off again, doing what he does. this is the president of the united states. and we need to hold ourselves up to the standard that demand a bedroom -- better leadership. we need to essentially say to ourselves, what am i willing to accept from a president and

frankly, we've seen now that this man is not going to change. we've seen how this exacerbates tension and violence throughout the country. this kind of leadership is automatic. frankly, what we needed to be doing is urging the president to stay out of kenosha, to keep names like jacob blake out of his mouth until we have actual policy from an administration that signifies that they are going to be interested in even having an intelligent conversation let alone actually ameliorating the problem. jemele of "rolling stone" thanks. >> thanks. >> president trump plans to meet with law enforcement on tuesday in kenosha. the administration deployed federal troops to support wisconsin's national guard. so far the white house has not announced plans to meet with the family or where the protesters that the president has called anarchists. he's being asked to reconsider

the visit. janell ross is in kenosha with more. what's the latest reaction to word of the president's visit including perhaps from mr. blake's family? well, first i can tell you that the mayor of kenosha has like the mayor of portland suggested that it would not be wise for the president to more deeply involve himself here. he's issued a statement say that the president is welcome in this city anytime but now is not the right time. the blake family, to my knowledge, have not heard from the president yet and certainly have been clear that they have great concerns about where the focus has been in the last few days, where the sort of president's focus has been, which seems to be on the property damage here in kenosha, and there has been property damning here in kenosha and lots of attention paying to the issues that began this entire situation, including the way that the city is policed and who is policed with a great deal of

force and who is perhaps given a great deal of the benefit of the doubt. >> could you elaborate on that a little in terms of how the national politics and the local issues are swer secretaintercep? it's now a big piece of national politics and easy for folks on the ground to get lost in the shuffle. >> i think that's fair. kenosha is 99,800 people. they're not unified to dealing with incredibly complicated politics. are trump narrowly won here, so he has some support here. however, it's also a city that looks a lot like america. almost 12% black, almost 20% latino and certainly there are a

range of opinions here both about the president and i think certainly ability the kind of law and order messaging that came out of the republican convention. at the same time there are certainly people who are gravely upset and perhaps they are sort of concerned about police conduct or police accountability has been sup planted by concern about buildings and structures that sustained some damage. so there are a wide array of opinions without question. up think i certainly have heard a number of people say that they would largely like things to calm down. for the most part, at this point kenosha is a relatively calm city. curfew goes into effect every night at 7:00. the streets are basically empty. all you can hear behind me is the sound of the flags flapping in the wind. there isn't anybody out here, so for the most part, this is a city that's been urchd curfew for almost a week.

>> thank you for painting that picture of what the streets are like right now in kenosha. let's continue now with democratic congresswoman gwenn moore. her district is north of kenosha. congresswoman, good evening. >> oh, thanks for having me, joshua. the conversation has been great. i've been listen ng. >> i wonder what you would add to that in terms of what you think should happen now. your district is not terribly far from kenosha, a 45-minute, hour drive north of there. i wonder what you see in this dialogue, particularly if some of the issues that we're learning about in kenosha dovetail with the issues you've seen in and around milwaukee? is this something black wisconsin it's would look at and say yeah, we can relate to that a hundred percent. >> let me say i was born three miles from the kenosha border and racine. this is part of scene wisconsin.

it's a very close community with regard to the african-american community. and yes, police brutality, police killings is just -- it's a thing. at -- in those communities. now, you know, i can tell you what's happening, what the response has been. they don't want donald trump to come on tuesday and janell, i think, pointed that out very clearly. as a matter of fact, the faith community, the organizers of the protesters have been very clear that they see this as just a photo op for the president wanting to film the despair in the community and to literally create a commercial to promote his own election, sort of a page torn out of the 1968, you know, southern strategy, richard nixon playbook, and they are bound and determined not to allow

president trump's visit on tuesday be fuel to a flame that's there. >> what about having joe biden visit? what do you make of the possibility of that? would that be helpful or does that stand the possibility of being equally political? >> well, i can tell you, i certainly think that with respect to the organizers and to the family, the family has said that talking to joe biden has been like talking to an uncle, kamala harris like talking to a sister. the family feels very comforted to them. joe biden went way out of his way to reach out to locals today. he called me earlier wanting to be in touch with some of the leadership in the community, local people, you know, wanted to make sure that he had an opportunity to talk to the ministers. he's interested in healing, he's interested in the interfaith congregation of people, because

he understands that the brokenness that we've seen so far is not helpful. you know, as opposed to donald trump and kelly ann conway, i think, said it best, that the chaos and brokenness is what he wants in order to perhaps put himself back in the white house. so we have seen that support for black lives matter and the movement has dropped since we've seen this violence. and we've actually seen proof that there are organized efforts like in portland and here to sort of ratchet up the violence and we're very distressed by that. >> before i let you go, what a do you think is step one in starting to heal this resist in kenosha? what's that first thing that should be done, before we go? >> the ties to the community are great. as you -- as janell indicated in her review of the city. it's a city where i'm permanent

friends with the fair, with the county executive, with the state senator that represents that area. it's an area that has learned to work together. it is a border state of illinois and wisconsin was the state to challenge the fugitive slave law, so it was a place where run-away slaves came to. so to jin up racial an miss in that region is so eni am cal to its history and we are going to cling to oar history, we're going to keep our eyes on the prize, as john lewis would say, and i -- we're going to make sure that we turn this grief and mourning into votes so that we can change leadership. >> congresswoman gwenn moore of milwaukee, congresswoman, good to see you tonight. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. >> we're glad you're with us

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load has passed another million mark. by our count as of tonight the united states has six million confirmed cases of covid 1. that means that one fourth of the world's coronavirus cases are here in america. yet more reason to find a treatment or vaccine as quickly and reliably as possible. the head of the fda says he's willing to by pass the normal approval pass to get one authorized asap. dr. hahn said so in the financial times. dr. hahn insisted that's not a result of fresh the white house. >> our gres is the former health policy administration in the obama white house and an msnbc news medical contributor. let me start with this six million mark. it seems like in some places that rising case load is slowing

down, that there's a decrease in the rate of new infections. might there be any good news with regard to the case load, even though it continues to go up? >> yeah. that's correct, joshua. so in especially the states that we have been talking about a lot lightly, texas, florida, even california, the actual numbers, new cases are declining. that's still good news they're not going up. however, smaller states, the dakotas, iowa, georgia, mississippi, tennessee that are experiencing increases, so we do need to keep an eye on the virus overall, but there is at least some positive news that the case rates are continuing to decline. >> what about this interview with the ft where he said he'd be willing to step vaccine approval process? we remember the controversy over

convalescent plasma where he was buhl yant about the effects and then had a to walk that back. how would we know if the approval process was more political than scientific? would we be able to tell? >> yeah. i think the way to tell, joshua, is to really demand transbarnsy around the data. by the way, that's note unusual for ask for data to be available for scientists and health professionals to review, and just to give viewers some context, we already have at least three large manufacturers that are in phase three trials with several of them ready to wrap up by the end of october, so you have to -- this begs the question what on earth is the urgency and what would you need to do in advance of that end of october date of reyou view in order to do this? and it's hard to believe it's not mill.

so i think it's the data and asking for that data to be made available prior or at the time of that emergency use authorization that dr. hahn mentioned. i think it has to be clearly laid out for accountability on dr. hahn, because as you mentioned, she's lost some of that credibility in the public's eye because of the recent actions by him at the fda. >> well, the point you made about being so many trials around the world, i think that might hopefully auger well for transparency, you got the oxford study, china is working on a vaccine studied that i believe is about to go to phase three in saudi arabia. so the world is going to be watching for the data and not just us. always good to see you, dr. patel. thanks. coming up, law and order was a big theme at the republican national convention. speakers claim that joe biden won't keep us safe. how that message might effect the president's campaign. next. t the president's campaign next

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they're not peaceful protesters. these are people that every single night conduct violent acts and it is in democrat cities. you want to talk about donald trump's america. most of donald trump's america is peaceful. >> so much for indy adviceble. mark bettos said that cities like portland and kenosha are not part of president trump's america, reason being they're led by democratic governors who in the president's view cannot or will not keep the peace. it's part of the law and order messaging. is this law and order marathon making voters tune in? a new poll suggests it might indeed, at least a little. a yahoo-youtube poll shows the race tightening somewhat from a 911 point gap advantage biden to

six points. president trump will head to kenosha. meanwhile joe biden is going to pennsylvania. he will offer a different vision for a better future. joining us is the white house bureau chief for the washington post. and he's an msnbc political analyst. with us is atimar, omare. and our third guest is a former republican congressman and also also an msnbc news preliminary analyst. let me start with the back and forth between the mayor and the president. the president was live tweeting the news conference with the mayor calling him any number of vicious vituperations which we

read earlier tonight. and he responded in real time. listen. >> mr. president, how can you think that the comment like that, if you're watching this, is in any way helpful? >> so phil, is this -- i know this is not helpful. i'm trying to think of an intelligent analytical question to ask you and i ain't got one. i ain't got one. someone's dead on the ground in portland and they've been demonstrating for 90-plus days since george floyd died. i'm not sure how this is except that this is in someone's mind helping a campaign. either donald trump by painting a picture of democrats as being law less or by joe biden saying see, this is what we don't want four more years of. i don't see it being anything else. >> trump is reviewing what's happening in portland,

minneapolis, kenosha, he's viewing this through the prism of his election campaign. he's thinking about the politics of it. he has concluded as his viefs have said publicly and has his campaign director said to me in an interview on friday that they think this continued unrest in american cities is playing to the president's political advantage. part of what they're trying to do here is scare suburban voters, white women voters, who had voted for president trump in 2016 who went with the democrats in 2018 who had largely concluded already they're not ready to give trump a second term to give them a reason to come back into the fold and they think creating an impression of anarchy and unrest and danger in the streets of america's cities coast to coast is exactly what will get them to vote for trump because he is promising a very simple message of law and order. >> and to that point, you saw the poll this week that showed that support in wisconsin for

black lives matter has gone to parity. 48-48. it seems like this might it might be working. >> i push back a little bit on that. i think that earlier this year, what started all these protests that are being seen across the country was the murder of george floyd. black lives matter has enjoyed the largest support that it has since the start of the movement, and what is a problem now donald trump has been that his numbers and how he has responded to the protests in minnesota, in wisconsin, and in other parts of the country, leaning into the incendiary racist rhetoric views that has pushed white suburban voters across -- essentially away from him and have resulted in elek toerlg victories for democrats in virginia, where i live, in 2017 we picked up 15 seats. statewide elections 2018 he lost the house. 2019 lots of victories again

across the country in state and local races for democrats. if he keeps this up, he's certainly going to see that, a lot in 2020. black lives matter has support because people really do believe that there is a larger problem that needs to be addressed in this country, and so he's leaning into his base and not doing anything to actually address the situation. and his polling numbers have reflected that, he has not handled it well. and white suburban voters who otherwise would be very skeptical of some of the black lives matter movement are on his side on this issue. >> i wonder if the strategy in wisconsin feels familiar to you and to me as a south floridian because in states like wisconsin we were talking about voters heernd voters there that made the difference. you look at a state like wisconsin, a state like florida, you can shave voters off here and there and target this piece of the i-4 corridor and that part of miami date county and

this corner of the gulf coast and it's enough to win the state as opposed to saying let me appeal to the state. you might be able to shave off just enough suburban white women who are concerned about black lives matter to win wisconsin again or lose wisconsin. >> you're absolutely right. that's exactly what the trump campaign is trying to do. they know that donald trump will never have a favorability rating over 50%. that's not what they're looking for. they're trying to make joe biden and kamala harris unacceptable to enough americans so that if the president request edge out another victory. they're doing it in florida,ing in the i-4 corridor, in south florida with some of the swing hispanic voters. this issue of law and order is so compatible with donald trump's divide and conquer approach to politics. he is setting this up right now so that he can say that he stands with the police and against those who are looting and burning cities and doing all

sorts of illegal things out on the streets. now, he's bypassing the whole discussion about whether there should be reforms in police departments, which certainly there should be, whether there are instances of brutality, which he's saying there are. this is about lawlessness and i'm on the side of those who want to maintain law and order. thals the way that donald trump could get back into this race and could as phil said, regain some of those voters that he lost in 2018. they took a chance on him in 2016. 2018 came armed, they said no way. donald trump is too much. we're going to vote out the republicans in congress who are supporting him but now those voters are back in play and this is the issue that could help donald trump win them back. i have think the biden campaigns ha to be very careful not to get boxed in. you saw the vice president coming out with more explicit

condemnation of violation out on the streets today. i think that's important for them. if they get boxed in, they could give donald trump a path to a second term. >> phil rucka, ateama morrow and carlos, thanks for being with us. still to come, what would make jerry seinfeld mad enough to tell you to wipe your tears, wipe your butt, and pull it together? maybe it would be suggesting that new york city is doomed because of covid-19. james got a lot of flak for his essay nyc's dead forever, here's why. he'll make his case straight ahead. re's why. he'll make his case straight ahead. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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tenants and i hope we're not going anywhere. apparently a lot of people are excited to get out. red fin says new york city leads the list of what it calls the largest net outflows. 35% were looking to move out. san francisco came in second and then los angeles. a piece in today's new york times was the latest story about the rise in demand for suburban homes. i moved to manhattan in february and so far, despite everything, i love it here. but a controversial essay suggests i may not have no choice but to leave sooner or later. james alltoucher published nyc is dead forever, here's why. he wrote in part kwoet now it's completely dead but new york always, always bounces back. no, not this time. but new york city is the center of the fm universe, opportunities will flourish here again. not this time. new york city has experienced

worse. no, it hasn't. unquote. enter jerry seinfeld, who clearly felt all toucher's essay was making big show about nothing. his op ed response dripping with defiance, he wrote, quote, the stupid virus will give up eventually, the same way you have. we're going to keep going with new york city, if that's all right with you. and it will sure as hell be back. because all the real tough new yorkers who unlike you love it and understand its stayed and rebuilt it. unquote. james is an arthur and former hedge fun manager. he owns a comedy club handy joins us now. good evening. >> how you doing? thanks for having me on the show. >> what is your one strongest data point for the argument that new york city will not fully recover from covid-19? >> well, first off, it's not covid-19 anymore. it's all of the economic data.

but perhaps the strongest data point is going to be seen tomorrow. right now de blasio is planning on sending out 22,000 layoff notices to city employees because deficits are at an all-time high. rev news are collapsing. 400,000 residents have left new york city since march. vacancies are at an all time high. up to 95% of new york city's restaurants are going to close if we don't have indoor kinding as is planned until 2021. these are just a few data points. this is not my opinion. these are facts. have you run a city when you're firing all the emt workers, mta workers, teachers, garbage collectors when all the restaurants are closed and all those employees are fired, what happens? >> you're not advocating the decline of new york city? >> no, not at all. >> i want to make sure that

you're not rooting for new york to fail. >> i am a resident of new york. >> right. there are people who have bet against the economy, and made money when the economy tanks. so how is it that a city with this much wealth is going to be allowed to fall into the atlantic? >> well, first off, the city itself is greatly in debt. right. that's why they have to fire 22,000 people. deglass owe's looking for a $5 billion bailout within the next 12 hours. isil not going to happen. the mta said they need a $12 billion bail out. it's not all financial but you're not going to have tour ichl if there's no restaurants, no broadway or no museums. if all the companies say oh, you can go remote so we can have less office space, one in four new yorkers are facing eviction right now because they haven't paid rent since march.

it's -- if this is a very difficult problem to solve. so a lot of articles have come back and said, new york's got grit, we'll survive this. tell that to these 22,000 employees. tell that to the hundreds of thousands of employees of the restaurants that could close. grit doesn't plug that problem. >> you, as i understand, have -- you are in miami or you have evacuated new york to nominee, right? >> just for a couple of weeks. i was there march, prim, may, june, and i left my -- with my family after the school year. now school's starting -- >> the reason i ask is because -- the reason i ask is because miami is now in hurricane season. we know that this city is going to fall victim to climate change some day. so if you thought miami was a good place to go with new york in trouble, why does your argument about new york make sense? we know miami's future is bleak. we don't know that those same

factors will save new york. miami's fighting to save miami. why not fight to save new york, despite the odds? >> i am fighting to save new york. that's why i wrote this article -- >> your article doesn't contain any solutions, though. >> right. but i -- what i was seeing was that nobody was even aware of the problems. everybody keeps saying, oh, new york has grit, new york has the history, and i believe that. i'm born in new york. i've been -- i grew up around new york. i've lived in the city since 1994. i'm a new yorker. i own a comedy club in the city s. i own a bar in the city. this is a city that i lo and believe in, and the problems are not being addressed, because they're difficult problems. it's very easy for people to say go new york. it's harder to say, here are the problems, this is what we can do about it. maybe we need more per swissive lobbying in d.c.

maybe we need them to start contributing. i know they do. >> what's the one -- >> missed opportunities. >> what's the one biggest thing before i have to let you go, presuming that you are indeed rooting for new york, what's the one thing you would like to see happen tomorrow morning to save new york? let's just say letting new york paul into the ocean is not an option. what is the top thing you want to see done to save this city? >> unfortunately, you know, second to a bail-out, which is not always the best, new york city would have to borrow money to keep currents employees on and immediately allow indoor dining. you cannot allow 95% to have city's restaurants to go bankrupt and hundreds of thousands of employees to lose their jobs.

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finally, we asked you how you're finding ways to press on with purpose despite the troubles of the world. the phrase was part of a commencement address given by chadwick boseman, who died this weekend of colon cancer. when my thoughts, words, and actions align with my core values, i am living my purpose. right now that means planning and cooking meals, caring for my family and community, registering voters, and volunteering as an election judge at the polls so that people at high-risk can stay home. i have a deeper and more profound respect for the free press. love my neighbors enough to wear a mask. i worked 42 years for the veterans administration medical center, four different facilities in all. i thought that was my purpose, i thought my purpose was caring for those who have borne the

battle. it was my pleasure. however, last year my wife had a stroke and almost died. now i realize that the training at the vamc was to prepare me for god's plan for me to be the caregiver for my beloved wife. diane forever. sally from kentucky has been getting to know a man whose great uncle is black, she is white. the woman his great uncle was lynched over was her great grandmother. sally called him to check in. i needed to hear how he was processing this latest horror. we talked about how modern vigilantes have exchanged ropes for guns but nothing else seems to have changed. he told me his primary emotion was confusion over the disparate treatment of black and white men laid bare in the videos we all saw this week. after an hour of conversation we decided to cling to the hope we have that the younger generation will lead us to a more equitable future, and we promised to continue talking. finally, i'm 32 with

pre-existing conditions, and i'm currently on dialysis. what pushes me forward to my purpose is being listed as an active on the kidney transplant list. now i know that i have a second chance at life. i'm going to live with no regrets. my purpose is to show that it's possible to conquer your dreams and goals no matter what you may face. by the way, federal statistics show there are six times more transplant patients than there are donors. kidneys are by far the greatest need. living donors are vastly more likely to provide a viable kidney. 20 people die every day on the waiting list. you can sign up at your dmv or organdonor.gov. stay tuned for msnbc's "headliners: black panther" at 11:00 eastern. i will see you all this week at 3:00 p.m. until we meet again tomorrow afternoon, i'm joshua johnson. "meet the press" is next.

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