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good morning. it is thursday, september 3rd. i'm alicia menendez. we begin with the president's inability to affect confidence. the president himself yesterday encouraged voter fraud. when asked by a north carolina reporter if he had competence in the state's system, the president urged voters to test the system by trying to cast two ballots, one by mail and another in person that they'll go out and vote, and they're going to have to check their vote by going to the poll and voting that way. if it tabulates, they won't be able do that. let them send it in and let them go vote and if their system's as good as they say it is, then obviously they won't be able to vote. if it isn't stab lated, they'll be able to vote. that's the way it is. that's what they should do. >> here's how attorney general bill barr attempted to explain the president's new guidance.

>> he's trying to make the point that the ability to monitor this system is not good and if it was so good, if you try to vote a second time, you would be caught if you voted in person. >> that would be illegal if somebody did that, if they mailed in a ballot and then showed up to vote in person. that would be illegal. >> i don't know what the law in the particular state says. >> you can't vote twice. >> i don't know what the law in a particular state says. >> is there any state who says you can vote twice? >> maybe you can change your vote up to a particular time. i don't know what the law is. >> he was saying test the system. >> if you know what he's saying, why are you asking me what he's saying? >> attorney general barr gave strong support to the president's unsupported claims that mail-in vote willing carry widespread voter fraud. take a listen. >> we haven't had that as being proposed. we've had absentee ballots from

people who have addressed them. now what we're talking about is mailing them to everyone on the voters lists when everyone knows the lites are inaccurate. people who should get them have not gotten them, which has been a major mistake. and people who get them are not the right people. they're people who have replaced the previous occupant and they can make them out and sometimes multiple ballots come to the same address with several generations of occupants. do you think that's a way to run a vote? this is playing with fire. we're a very closely divided country here, and if people have to have confidence in the results of the election and legitimacy of the government and people are trying to change rules which as a matter of logic is very open to fraud and coercion is reckless and dangerous and people are playing with fire. >> barr went on to say that logic shows foreign countries could manipulate ballots, though intelligence officials told reporters last week that was

unlikely. he added that china is a greater threat than china for election interference but declined to say which candidate china favors. joining me now, white house correspondent for "reuters," jeff mason. good morning, jeff. let's talk about one of the top stories. president trump suggesting in north carolina that people should vote twice this election, which is illegal. what reaction are you hearing? >> i'm haven't gathered a whole lot of reaction at this hour just yet, but generally what he's saying there and the reaction i anticipate we'll start to hear today from democrats on the hill and probably others, this is a president who has expressed concern about mail-in voting. you've just heard his attorney general expressing concern. but at the same time at least in this interview, he's essentially encouraging fraud, so that's, a, contradictory, b, as you rightly said, illegal, and it undercuts his argument in general that the

election will be cast into doubt because of this mail-in voting process that he has so many objections to. there's also ample evidence in states that have already had mail-in voting, colorado being one of them, that mail-in voting can go just fine and that it can help both republicans and democrats in terms of getting people the opportunity to get their vote out. so broadly i would say this is a story that's going to get even more attention than reaction today. >> jeff, you opponent out on twitter that the white house denied earlier this week that it would be political in nature. so what was your impression of the event? >> yeah. so yesterday he went to north carolina for what was ostensibly an event to commemorate the 75th anniversary of the conclusion of world war ii, and i had asked

kayleigh mcenany this week during a white house press briefing if north carolina was not chosen because it happens to also be a political battleground state, and she kind of bristled at that and said that that was not the case, he was going to wilmington to call it or designate it as the first historical world war ii heritage city in the united states. he did all of those things yesterday, but he also during that officially non-political event include a dig at joe biden by suggesting that he was not as sharp as a 97-year-old world war ii veteran who was there at the event and who had traveled with him on "air force one" yesterday. and he also kicked off the trip with what was essentially a mini rally at the airport. so all that is to say that clearly north carolina was chosen not only because of its

history and the history of the battleship in north carolina that was there, that was the backdrop of his speech for the world war ii commemoration event, but also it was important politically going into the november 3rd election. jeff mason, thank you. we'll talk again in a little bit. the cdc is asking states to speed up the approval of vaccine distribution sites by november 1st. the documents were first posted by "the new york times," and th. the new guidance was set on the same dame president trump told the nation in his speech at the republican national convention that a vaccine might arrive by the end of the year. according to the "times," the possibility of a rollout in late october or early november is

seeking to rush the distribution of a vaccine or hype that one is possible before election day on november 3rd. all levels of government should urgently prepare for what will eventually be a complex effort to vaccinate hundreds of millions of americans. dr. anthony fauci gave a stark warning of what needs to be done before flu season amid the coronavirus pandemic. >> we're around 143,000. that's unacceptably high. we've got to get it down to 10,000. hopefully less. the thing is we're entering in a day or two right now into the labor day weekend, and we know from prior experience that when you get into holiday weekends, the fourth of july, memorial day, there's a tendency for people to be careless somewhat with regard to the public health measures that we keep recommends over and over again, so i really

want to offer this opportunity to realize that we still need to get our arms around this and to suppress these types of surges that we've seen. >> president trump struck a more optimistic tone than dr. fauci yesterday telling supporters in north carolina the u.s. is, quote, rounding the turn on the coronavirus. >> our numbers are great. the stockmarket is essentially at an all-time record. if you told me that we're rounding the turn on the china virus, we're rounding the turn, vaccines are happening, therapeutics are happening. you look at the statistics. they're really good. even without that, we're rounding the turn. we're going to have a phenomenal quarter. this quarter is going to be really good. >> the department of homeland security delayed the distribution of an intelligence repo

report. that's according to a dhs spokesman who spoke to nbc news and added that the report had been held up because it, quote, lacked the necessary contents andest. russia to denigrate health of candidates in the 2020 election, the unclassified report mentions iranian and chinese efforts to criticize trump on health issues but focuses on russia-backed narratives about the health of jchbl it was meant to be distributed to fed rag, starkts and law enforcement partners on july 9th. still ahead, a plan to keep kanye west off the ballot this november. >> and later joe biden is set to visit kenosha today. what we can expect to his first campaign trip to wisconsin. those stories and a check on weather when we come back. a chen weather when we come back.

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house oversight committee chair carolyn maloney spoke on post office changes. louis dejoy has not responded, having failed to meet the deadlines on post service changes. according to the "associated press" the committee is also looking for information about how dejoy was picked for the job as well as any communications between dejoy and the trump campaign. its also requesting dejoy's unredacted calendar. the deadline for compliance is september 16th at noon. voters in two states are pursuing a plan to prevent kanye westing from showing up on the election ballot in november. they allege, quote, concerning deficiencies in all 13 elector oaths and say west should not be certified for the ballot.

they're represented by the prominent democratic firm of perkins kuie. a suit was also filed on monday to keep west from appears on the arizona ballot. a resident there claims west is prohibited by la u to run as an independent for the state despite collecting 20,000 more signatures than he needs to be nominated. individual candidates can appear on arizona's ballot if they're not recognized with a political party, but west is a r. joining us now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. what can help to keep him off the ballot, and has it been met here? >> in georgia they require 13.

the argument is two-fold. they say, we had no idea we were being set up for kanye west. i think this is a compelling argument. one of the electors was the notary who signed or notarized all of the other electors' forms, and virginia law does provide as do most states that a notary can't have a financial interest because electors in virginia are paid something like $50 a day. technically the notary has a financial interest. that, too, might be a compelling argument. there are a few other arguments as to the validity in virginia. very interesting case, interesting to see how the court handles it on short notice. >> and in arizona, can west simply change his party registration to get around the law? >> he can. this is fascinating. in arizona, there are exactly two ways you can get on the ballot. one is if you're a registered

member of a known political party. and in arizona, that's republican, democrat, libertarian. then the path is you must be nominated by your party. the only other path is if you're not a member of one of those parties f you're an independent, for example, there's another path. and the argument is kanye west is a registered republican. in arizona, he has exactly one path to the ballot and he didn't follow that in this case, and that is to be nominated by his party or be nominated by an independent, but there's no time left. the deadline is tomorrow, the 4th, and there are no court days because of the holiday weekend. >> danny, while i have you, what are the legal consequences for voting twice? >> it's a violation of most states' laws and the voting rights act. it employee provides for a penalty of up to five years im

prisonment. five years for voting twice. so most states outlaw it. the federal law outlaws it as well. it's not a good idea. although, it's rarely prosecuted. >> all right, danny cevallos, thank you. still ahead, the moderators for the upcoming presidential debates have been announced. those details are next. n announ. those details are next mine. epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. whatever your type, epclusa could be your kind of cure. i just found out about mine. i knew for years. epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. i had no symptoms of hepatitis c mine caused liver damage. epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with or without food for 12 weeks. before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, and could cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, other liver

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raised $300 million in august. for a check of your weather let's go to nbc meteorologist bill karins. what do you have for us today? >> good morning, alicia. we have a severe weather threat for our nation's capitol and maybe a few tornadoes. the heatwave is off the charts for september. yesterday we had a line of storms with a lot of wind damage around the baltimore area. today we're going to do it again. we have showers and thunderstorms rolling along here. eventually those will make their way into the mid-atlantic. it's going to be very hot, very humid out there. when the storms arrive, there's enough twist in the atmosphere we could get some tornados. 21 million people are at risk. it includes the orange area. washington, baltimore,

harrisonburg, fredericksburg, and salisbury. let's turn to the northwest. it this is going to be an incredibly hot labor day weekend upcoming. 43 million people included warnings and watches because of the heat headlines. today is the beginning of it. we're starting to see things heating up. we should be around 107 in the phoenix area. that's a little warmer than usual. most spots are 5 to 10 degrees warmer. we see the heat beginning to surge on friday. palm springs, 114. these should all be record-highs. phoenix, 112. central california gets into the mix. even bakersfield gets into it. it's not like a short-lived heatwave. the duration is going to be a problem all the way through labor day weekend. we could be looking at not just daily record highs but could be challenging all-time record highs in september.

look at fresno, 107 degrees. we don't want to leave out our friends in the middle of the country. it's been a very wet week. areas south of dallas and a few spots in the ohio valley. today's forecast, the showers and storms in the mid-atlantic. alicia, we'll have to watch. the time looks about between 3:00 and 7:00 p.m. for washington, d.c. and the baltimore, philadelphia areas. it's not often we get tornados in that portion of the country. we'll keep an eye on it. >> thanks so much. still ahead, attorney general william barr weighs in on the unrest in several u.s. cities and calls the, quote, epidemic of police brutality against black people a false narrative. we'll show you the new comments. president trump moves to cut federal funding with some cities across the country for some democratic leaders. those stories and more coming up next. leaders those stories and more coming up next thest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected.

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welcome back. i'm alicia menendez. we begin this half hour as joe biden's expected to visit kenosha, wisconsin, today where he and his wife dr. jill biden will meet up. at a campaign event in wilmington, dellware, yesterday, joe biden invited officers involved in the killing of breonna taylor and jacob blake as well as a trump supporter last weekend. >> last week kamela harris said the officer who shot jacob blake

base whoond they have seen should be charged. do you agree with her and do you believe -- >> i believe we should let the judicial system work its way. i believe the officers should be charged. i might add, by the way, i think what happened in portland where a -- one of the trump guys riding along in vans, inciting response, was shooting rubber bullets, i guess, or paintballs, apparently there was someone shot in the crowd, killed with a bull lot. i think that should meet the legal requirements. it should be investigated and they should follow through on what needs to be done. let the judicial system work. >> in his interview on cnn yesterday, attorney general william barr pushed back on the idea that systemic racism

skpifts. barr broadly defended the actions of law enforcement and rejected the notion there are two justice systems for black and white americans. >> i do think that there appears to be a phenomena in the country where african-americans feel that they're treated when they're stopped by police frequently as suspects before they're treated as citizens. i don't think that necessarily reflects some deep-seated racism in police departments or most police officers. i think the same kind of behavior is done by african-american police officers. >> are there two justice systems here in the united states? >> no, i don't think there are two justice systems. i think the narrative that the police are on some epidemic of shooting unarmed black men is simply a false narrative and also the narrative that that's based on race. the fact of the matter is it's

very rare for an unarmed african-american to be shot by a white police officer. to me the word "systemic" means that it's built into the institution, and i don't think that's true. racism usually means that, you know, i believe that because of your race, you're a lesser human being than me, and i think there are people in the united states who feel that way, but i don't think it is as common as people suggest. >> do you think black people are treated differently by law enforcement than white people? >> i think there are certain statistics that suggest they are treated differently, but i don't think that's necessarily racism. >> president trump is slashing federal funding for democrat-run cities across the country, citing recent violence, trump wants to identify anarchist jurisdictions and moved to withhold funds.

a memo addressed to attorney general bill barr and russell vote says anarchy has recently beset some of our states and cities. my administration will not allow federal tax dollars to fund cities that allow themselves to deteriorate into lawless zones. some are portland, washington, d.c., and new york city. joining me once again, white house correspondent for reuters, jeff mason. jeff, what more can you tell us about moving to defund democratic cities? >> this is his move to highlight bad governance by cities.

taking the political starnes you were just outlining that has become one of the core themes of his presidential campaign and moving it into a policy stance by using the levers of the federal government and using his powers of the presidency to try to reduce that funding. so it's just -- it's his latest move on this, and it is very much tied to a broader political theme that he has advanced as part of his re-election campaign. >> you also have joe biden set to visit kenosha today, marking his first campaign trip to wisconsin. what should we expect? what are you looking for? >> i think it will be interesting to see how that visit contrasts with president trump's visit. i was with the president when he went to kenosha earlier this week. his visit was focused on meeting with business leaders and law enforcement to praise them for their reaction to the lootling and rioting and the protesting that took place in kenosha.

he met with the pastor. joe biden and his wife are going to do something much differential. they're scheduled to hold a meeting to talk about the racial divide and basically emphasize different themes and not just the law enforcement heavy theme that's so central to president trump's campaign but a broader message of bridging those divides and reducing discrimination. >> jeff mason, thanks for your time. >> reporter: former white house press secretary sarah sanders is making headlines for a claim in her new book due out wednesday. in an excerpt released to "the new york times," sanders joke shed would have to take one for the team after she told him and former white house chief of staff john kelly about the moment when kim jong-un appeared to wink at her during the 2018

summit in singapore. she said the president asked, are you telling me kim jong-un hit on you when she made clear that was not what she meant. she claims the president and kellyanne conway joked about it. he said, well, sarah, that celts it. you're going to hong kong to take a hit for the team. still ahead, calling out president trump over school reopenings as infections force colleges and university across the country to revert back to remote learning. your first look at "morning joe" is back in a moment. is back in a moment. when the world gets complicated,

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protecting our students, our educators, our communities, getting our schools open safely and effectively, this is a national emergency. >> mr. president, where are you? where are you? why aren't you working on this? we need emergency support funding for our schools, and we need it now. mr. president, that's your job. that's your job. get off twitter. and start talking to the congressional leaders to both parties. invite them to the oval office. >> that was joe biden yesterday calling out president trump on the lack of clarity on school reopenings. as colleges and schools attempt to return students to in-person classes, many have been forted to revert to remote learning due to dramatic upticks on the coronavirus on campus.

the university campof south cara campus reported over 1,000 students infected in just four days. meanwhile the university of georgia reported more than 800 positive cases in a recent five-day span. the total is the highest reported by a georgia college or university in such a stretch since the pandemic began. james madison university in virginia announced it would send students home and shift to primarily online courses after reporting more than 500 active coronavirus cases less than a week after in-person classes began. in temple university in philadelphia also announced it would pause in-person classes for two weeks after identifying more than 100 active coronavirus cases on campus. actor and former wrestler dwayne "the rock" johnson announced yesterday he and his family recently tested positive for the coronavirus. in a video posted to instagram,

johnson sthard his daughters had mild symptoms while he and his wife had a more difficult experience. >> this has been one of the most challenging and difficult things we have ever had to endure as a family. it baffles me that some people out there including some politicians will take this idea of wearing masks and make it a political agenda, part of a political agenda, politicizing it. it has nothing to do with politics. wear your mask. it is a fact, and it is the right thing to do. >> they have all since recovered and are no longer contagious. let's check in now with nbc meteorologist bill karins. hey, bill. >> thanks, alicia. it's interesting. we keep reporting all these stories about the college campuses and the new identified cases and a surge in cases, but we're still not seeing that in the national numbers, which is interesting. those numbers that are reported as the colleges are testing, those do go to county's health departments and it gets reported

in the numbers. it's interesting. maybe in the general public there's a little less reporting. you see on the graph on the far right, that's where we've been where a lot of the schools have been back, and the number, the seven-day average hasn't changed. it's been kind of flat, slowly dropping. we were almost right on the seven-day average. 41,000. the seven-day average is at 42,000 cases. we haven't seen a return to school at least for the colleges, any surge in the numbers. we'll wait and see if that changes with the northern campuses in the northern public schools going back this week. and here's what we're looking at for the fatalities. new deaths on wednesday -- excuse me, the new deaths on monday was 1,090. we had 500 deaths. half of those numbers were just from four states, k, texas, florida, and georgia. those are the four states mostly

above a hundred. the average is 500. the cases are slowly trending down. let's get into the forecast. a severe weather threat. we mentioned that earlier in the show. we mentioned the southwest heatwave. so now let's prepare you for the holiday weekend. a little less humid as we go through the northeast, as we go through tomorrow. the beach weather looks great for saturday. you talk about nice conditions on much of the east coast. cape cod, the islands look goorksd the jersey shofrm most of tmostly good. there will be a chance of a few afternoon showers on the gulf coast through florida, but, alicia, it's like the peak of hurricane season. you can have all these kwl variables. it looks like we're in for a nice holiday weekend and a lot of people deserve it. >> all right, bill. thanks so much. still ahead, wall street posts another day of record

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time now for businessle for the first time since world war ii, the world debt is on track to exceed the economy. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum joins us from london. what can you tell us about the numbers? >> they're set to hit a $2.3 trillion, a huge amount to fight the coronavirus. that's according to the congressional budget office which came out with these fresh numbers yesterday. the debt will exceed annual gdp next year as you mentioned. this is an important milestone because it would put the u.s. economy where it was in the aftermath of world war ii, when it akccumulated debt the size o

the economy. yesterday we saw record-highs. the dow surged 450 points, its best day since mid-july. the s&p rallied 1.5%, its largest one-day gain since the beginning of july. and the nasdaq climbed a further 1%, hitting a fresh record high. so and do demand for stocks continues despite the fact that the u.s. is racking up national debt. we're going to get a further glimpse into how the labor market is holding up today. we've got weekly jobless claims set to hit the tape. alicia? >> some advertisers are looking at the fall football schedule. what more can you tell us? >> the fall season is hugely important to advertisers. they spent close to $5 billion on the nfl last season. they's according to data from kantar. now they're reporting unprecedented flexibility, so the ability to pull out of some

of these major expense commitments. the nfl has said they expect to launch and complete the season. but advertisers are worried if the season is cut short, what happens to the huge dollars they're spending on these campaigns. back to you. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum live from london. thank you. up next a look at axios' 1 big thing. and coming up on "morning joe" the president of the american federation of teachers joins the conversation. plus singer and song writer sheryl crow will join the discussion with her new single hitting president trump. "morning joe" is just moments away. trump. "morning joe" is just moments away

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the plane wasn't coming from washington, it was leaving washington. have you asked the fbi to investigate this? >> i don't have to ask the fbi, we received numerous reports from individuals coming from portland, washington, seattle. coming in for the specific reason of a riot. >> were they wearing black uniforms? >> there were many on planes. we received multiple reports on this topic. >> what the president was talking about was information you provided the president? >> i don't know what the president was reporting to. >> it's reported on facebook there was a conspiracy reported weeks ago about this thing. >> i don't know what the president was referring to. but i will say that we are trying to follow these things and we received numerous reports of people coming from other cities into washington as we received many reports of people going into kenosha from various states. >> you're saying you don't know what the president was referring

to? >> no, i don't. he seems to be talking in general terms. i don't know what he was referring to. >> that's attorney general william barr when pressed on claims that thugs were on planes planning to disrupt the republican national convention. >> joining me now with a look at axios a.m., editor in chief, nicholas johnston. what's axios' one big thing this morning? >> big tech's chaos scenarios. the big tech companies have started a dry run for what might prepare in an uncertain election season. a lot of people voting via mail and spread of misinformation online is making people think we might not get results as quickly as we used to. so the big tech companies are doing war gaming scenarios who figure out how they would react

and how should they respond to folks behaving nefariously. what if a candidate declares victory before all the votes are in? what if different candidates spread false information about voting by mail. remember the tech is the gataway for the way a lot of americans get their information about voting and politics. what if a candidate declares victory too soon, would they take those social media postings down, label them? that's what we were thinking about because as we reported earlier in the week this could be a drawn out process and the results could be different in the end than election night. election officials are paying a lot of attention to this as well. they're the source for a lot of

of the election information so they're looking at how to release the information. they are looking to put out to so they don't create the false narrative that someone is winning when they aren't. >> axios is also reporting that colleges are driving a new wave of coronavirus hot spots. what can you tell us about that? >> the weekly map is back looking at how the coronavirus pandemic is spreading across the united states. we had months of progress but we're seeing it stall out and reverse in a number of places. the case counts over the summer went to record highs, 50, 60,000 so we made progress from that level but now we're seeing recent spikes, particularly driven by colleges. you have 1,000 cases in schools that have returned already. also a worrying event, a big event not necessarily super

spreader event but the return of large public gatherings particularly the dakotas where they had festivals and concerts. so it's been a mixed bag as we come down from the large highs we're plateauing at still high levels, 30, 40,000 cases a day when dr. fauci said he'd like to get down below 10,000 cases a day before the flu season. >> a recent focus group with wisconsin voters showed how they viewed joe biden, what was the takeaway? >> we're trying to meet the swingest of swing voters, those who switched from obama to trump or romney to clinton. so they think joe biden has been overet ov

over emphasizing the black lives matter protesters. this is a group that went from clinton to trump, so they're still sticking with trump. they did think joe biden was focussing his message incorrectly. this is a concern that joe biden is wrestling with. how do you thread that needle between some of the more strident protesters and rioting that has been done. we're also sticking with what his party and defenders believe is the fundamental message that is correct what these folks are protesting for. wisconsin is a key state for both joe biden and president trump to win in the fall so important insights there. >> nick with about nine weeks until election day, do you think this ends up being one of the core issues in the next nine weeks? >> i think absolutely. as we continue these protests this is a core issue that republicans as well, donald trump is making it a core issue. they see it an important way to fight back.

they can slow joe biden's lead in a lot of these polls, zeroing in on the spread of violence, protesters that have turned deadly. they're trying to hang that around joe biden's neck. that's why you saw earlier in the week joe biden is making a point to come out and condemn the violence on both sides and calling for folks perpetuating those acts to be prosecuted. >> thank you for your time. i'll be reading axios a.m. in a little while. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me. "morning joe" starts now. >> we stand for law and order in every city for every american. >> let them send it in, go vote, if their system is as good as they say it is, they won't be able to vote. >> on