and that was before reports trump called fallen troops losers. and 176 days ago, breonna taylor was shot and killed in her home by louisville police. now a new documentary pieces together the last moments of breonna's life. velshi starts now. good morning. it's saturday, september 5th. i'm ali velshi. it's day 1325 of the trump presidency. like most days of his tenure we learned of trump denigrating someone or something. this week it was a rerun of sorts rather than a brand-new episode when news crossed on thursday that donald trump has once again disparaged fallen members of the united states military, my first response as it is with so much news of things trump allegedly said it that it didn't surprise me. trump and his people have denied the atlantic's reporting that in canceling a trip to a french

cemetery holding fallen american troops in 2018 trump reportedly said why should i go to that cemetery? it's filled with losers? in a separate conversation on the same trip, trump reportedly referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives in 1918 as suckers. trump is not anyone's example of a history but but he seemed confused as to why the united states would have intervened on the sides of the alleys in world war i asking "who were the good guys in this war?" the white house called the claims lies, fake news. but even if you discount the numerous confirmations of the incident that have come to light since, you can't ignore the basic facts. in 2015, trump said senator john mccain, who was tortured by the north vietnamese and spent five years as a prisoner of war was not a hero. "i like people who are not captured" he said, which i suppose is an easy thing for

president trump or me to say because we never served in the military. trump was deferred from enlisting to fight in the vietnam war because he allegedly had bone spurs, his only reference in that war is trying to avoid a sexually transmitted disease as his own personal vietnam. of course he would have no empathy for john mccain or for president george h.w. bush, whom trump also reported called a loser. nor for army captain humayun khan who was killed on june 8, 2004 in a suicide attack in iran. one of his heroes was john mccain. you would likely never have heard of hum khan except his parents delivered a speech at the democratic national convention in 2016 invoking his memory and challenging the promise that then candidate donald trump made about a muslim

ban. that, you will recall, prompted a vicious bigoted and sexist attack on the khan family by trump. we often say of people who have not served in the military that they haven't worn the uniform. that's not exactly true of trump. he wasn't worn the uniform of any actual military but he did attend a military academy for high skochool and he seemed to talk affectionately of generals. as president he kept them close. he likes the tough guy image. intervening against the wishes of military leadership and on the side of a disgraced navy seal, edwin gallagher who was accused of stabbing a teenage isis captive to death. according to a new book, trump wanted his inauguration to look similar to a north korean military parade. he likes the trappings of the

military. he wants the command, he enjoys the pageantry, but he wants nothing and understands nothing of the sacrifice. that's fine, because most people wouldn't sacrifice their lives for their country, but most of us do understand that someone else will. because of that we are safe. it's one thing to disagree with american military policy or its aims or how much we spend on it. but to question the faith and the commitment of young women and men who actually risk their lives is not the work of the person who is named in article 2 section 2 clause 1 of the constitution as the commander in chief of the army and navy of the united states of america. joining me now is one of the men i just mentioned, the father of one of the men i just mentioned. khizr khan is the father of humayun khan who was killed in the iraq war. mr. khan is an attorney, and he carries a copy of the constitution with him wherever he goes because he knows what it means to sacrifice in its name. mr. khan, it is good to see you

again. i want you to tell us just a little bit about your son, captain humayun khan and how he was killed. >> thank you. humayun was full of love, courage, care for others. on june 8th, forgive me if i lose my composure, his unit was assigned to protect the area in baquba. he had a habit of coming to work early to make sure his fellow soldiers are safe. on that fateful day, he came before it was his time to come on make sure that entry and exit to the camp was taking place

safely. it was 8:00 in the morning. as he was at the main gate inspecting the soldiers, he saw a fast-moving car coming towards the camp. i'm sure he was a trained military person, he must have realized the danger. his fellow soldiers, his commanders have said that he could have ordered any one of us to stop the car, but he did something that is -- that is only read in the books of these brave men that serve this great nation. he took about ten steps, extended his hand trying to stop that car. and everyone was saved except captain humayun khan, in service

of his country, in service of the men and women that he was serving with, we remember the last telephone call that we had with him on mother's day. she knew how caring humayun was, she told him, humayun, please be careful. i want you to come back home safely, i was standing next to the telephone and i could hear him say mother, don't worry about me. i have responsibility, i am responsible for the men and women under my jurisdiction, i will protect them first. i will be safe. they will be safe. we will come home.

in that short -- >> go ahead. >> these words that trump calls those who have sacrificed their lives for others, for their country, for the nation, losers, we understand trump's soul. by his accounting self-sacrifice does not make sense, love of country of nation, of principles, of institutions does not make sense. according to trump, as he says, winners are those who put themselves before all, and those who put their country, their nation before themselves are losers. his life is a testament to selfishness.

he calls our war dead losers and celebrates out carat autocrats, to imitate dictators of korea and russia, his benefactors. words count because they tell us who we are. donald trump told us by his words about our heroes, about our men and women serving in uniform who he is -- he incapable of understanding service, valor and courage. his soul cannot conceive integrity and honor. and if i may, he has proven by his deeds, by his words that he has a soul of a coward. this is not our america. this is not the way -- who we

are. this is not how we treat our heros, our men and women serving in uniform. their families, our veterans and their families. we look after them. hopefully we will have a better commander in chief, a commander in chief who is compassionate, who knows what it takes, what anguish a family goes through, family of a service member when the service member is deployed. when a service member is serving far away. what anguish that family goes through. he's a military parent i'm talking about vice president joe biden. we will have a better president, we will have a better commander in chief, and america will be in better hands than what we have no now. >> khizr khan, you were not a man born in america, nor your

wife nor your son, yet he and you have served this country, you carry that constitution with you, and thank you for sharing your story with us. i don't think there are many americans who share the president's view on this, most of us understand the hero that your son was and that every american who serves for this country has been. khizr khan is a gold star father, he lost his son, captain humayun khan in iraq. president trump's latest tactic to win the november election is to urge voters to commit a crime. he literally told people to try to vote twice. michael cohen knows a thing about trump's win at all cost mentality and says cheeding is cheating is in his repertoire. >> donald trump will do anything to win, i think that includes manipulating the ballots.

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it's labor day weekend, the unofficial end of summer, but this year is like no other in recent times. our top health officials raising the alarm this holiday warning citizens to keep their distance and limit unnecessarily large gatherings as the coron averag lives a day. the latest number shows more than 6.2 million americans have been infected by covid-19 and nearly 189,000 have died, but despite this all-encompassing tragedy the trump re-election campaign wants the american people to believe this. >> the best is yet to come! ♪

>> in case you missed that from last week. as team trump pedals that pa, w see unrest on the streets. marches and calls for justice over police incidents involving black men. when a shooting leaving a man partially paralyzed and another where a man was pinned on the ground and died. in portland, a clash between protesters resulted in the death of two people. all while the trump administration fans the flames of division. then there's this, in his first interview since being released from prison, michael cohen sat down with lester holt and said he feared that president trump would start a war to stop his removal from the white house. >> you think he'll win another

term as president? >> donald trump will do everything and anything in which to win, i believe that includes manipulating the ballots. i believe that he would even go so far as to start a war in order to prevent himself from being removed from office. my biggest fear is that there will not be a peaceful transition of power in that's attorney and confidantin at all cost mentality, which includes cheating. it's the latest of a string of trump tactics to gain an unfair advantage in the election. the department of homeland security blocked warnings of a russian campaign to question the health of joe biden. the strategy employed ways similar to a campaign ad released by trump earlier this summer and this happened this week at a campaign rally in wilmington, north carolina. >> they'll go out, they'll vote,

they'll have to check their vote by going to the poll and voting that way. if it tabulates, they won't be able do that. so, let them send it in, let them go vote. if the systems are as good as they say, they won't be able to vote. if it is not tabulated, they'll be able to vote. that's the way it is that's what they should do. >> all right. you heard that right. that's the president of the united states urging people to vote not once, but twice. the white house would later release a statement denying that the president was urging people to vote twice. i heard it plain as day. bill barr weighed in on the subject. >> i don't know what the law in the particular states say. >> you can't vote twice. >> i don't know what the law in the particular state says and when that vote becomes final. >> i don't know what the law in that particular state says? all the states say the same thing, can't vote twice. we have you covered, mr. attorney general.

according to the executive director of north carolina's board of election, attempting to vote twice in an election or soliciting someone to do so is a violation of north carolina law. but you can still vote twice if you want. >> if you insist that you want to vote, you'll be allowed to vote a provisional ballot, after the election, before the certification of the vote, provisional ballots will be examined and all the circumstances will be investigated, and it will be noted that you have already voted and that your second attempt to vote is actually invalid and depending on the circumstances, could be a felony in north carolina. >> could be a felony in north carolina. so trump is telling the folks in north carolina to commit a felony. if anybody was thinking about doing this in other parts of the country, a friend of the velshi show from michigan offered this. folks, attorney general nessel

here, top law enforcement in michigan, don't try this at home. i will prosecute you. also this might be a good time to remind people not to drink bleach. this is what we've come to. on thursday the president sent a tweet adjusting his position somewhat. go to your polling place to see whether or not your mail-in vote has been tabulated in brackets, counted. all of this adds up. when we come back, i have just the people to talk about what trump is trying to do here. don't go away. or powders. try the cooling, soothing relief of preparation h. because your derriere deserves expert care. try new soothing relief. darrell's family uses gain flings now so their laundry smells more amazing than ever. [woman] isn't that the dog's towel? hey, me towel su towel. more gain scent plus oxi boost and febreze in every gain fling.

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do it. that statement is so outrageous we had to play it one more time. joining me now to discuss this, eddie glaude, chair of the african-american studies department at princeton university, and ellen weintraub, commissioner of the federal election commission. thanks to both of you for joining us. commissioner weintraub, the attorney general in his response to this, rather than saying maybe the president meant something else or whatever the case, he says i don't know the laws in that state. are there states in america in which you are allowed to vote twice? >> not to my knowledge, no. it's illegal in every state. it's also illegal at the federal level. there's a federal law that bans voting twice. possible $10,000 penalty or five years in jail. >> so what do you think the president's aiming to do here? is this the general campaign of chaos that he's had going on for a while is he really implying that his -- his people should

vote twice and maybe for some chance the votes will get counted? >> i wouldn't presume to try and understand what the president's intent is. i can only encourage every citizen do not vote twice. it's illegal. it's a crime. as you showed in the earlier clip, there are attorneys general in all of the states that would be happy to prosecute that sort of a crime. as i said, it's also a federal crime. don't do it. >> eddie, tomorrow we're doing a special in the 9:00 hour and disinformation and the role it's playing in this campaign. what was surprising is that we got news this week, "new york times" reporting that the department of homeland security declined to publish a july 9th intelligence document that warned of russian attempts to infiltrate or involve themselves in the election, in particular reports of joe biden's decline

in mental health. that russians are involved in spreading that word around the internet. what do you make of that, eddie? i think we have lost our guests. i think the interwebs have frozen. i talk about russian involvement in the internet, all of a sudden the internet freezes. we'll try to get eddie and ellen back as quickly as possible. ellen is there. good. ellen, let me ask you about this. you tweeted on september 4th, i think yesterday, that there's no basis for the conspiracy theory that vote by mail will lead to a rigged election. it turns out the department of homeland security warns that these conspiracy theories are, in fraact, being fueled by russ to undermine our democracy. so we know the same stuff happening in the last election

continues to happen. >> yes sadly. and probably not in exactly the same ways. i think they have tried different techniques. we learned recently they're hiring americans to run fake news sites for them. the so there's new stuff going on as well as the old stuff. we know the russians are trying to plans did informati s didisi magnify information already out there. unfortunately there's already a lot of bad information out there among the conspiracy theories, what i've been trying to cover is vote by mail is going to cause a rigged election. none of that is going to happen. vote by mail is a way to feel safe during an era of covid-19. many states made accommodations for more voting by mail. in north carolina yesterday they started sending out peoples absentee ballots. 59 days out, we're under way in

this election season. but people should feel comfortable using the ballots that are sent to them and getting them back. just do it early. that's my best advice to people. make sure that you get your ballot back early, either in the mail or through a drop book if you're voting absentee. if you're voting in person, vote early also, because that will help to reduce the chaos on election day, reduce the crowds that will be coming into the polling stations. >> and lots of different organizations have ways in which you can find out how this happens in your state. here at nbc and msnbc we have something called plan your vote, where you can point to your state and it will tell you are there dropboxes, do you have to do it by mail, do you drop it at certain offices? it's different state to state, but ellen, you can manage to make your vote count this time around, even if you don't want to leave your house, expose yourself to potential

coronavirus, 59 days out you can get this done. the only thing that will stop you is the sowing of confusion. >> we want every eligible citizen to vote safely and accessibly. for a lot of people this year that's by mail. so make sure you are registered, make sure you request your ballot early and that you get it back early. if you're not comfortable putting it in the mail, there are dropboxes usually at the board of elections its as well as in various communities. get your information straight from the source. i'm sure your website is directing people right back to the secretaries of state to the local boards of elections, that's where everybody should be getting their information. that's reliable. >> thank you for saying that. a lot of people are getting mailers and emails from things that are not about the source, they're political in nature. you have to make sure you check everything. this is one of those instances like fake news, just check

twice. trust a reputable organization or your secretary of state who runs the election. the question i was asking eddie, the business about dhs not circulating an intelligence report from july 9th about russian attempts to denigrate joe biden and his mental health, what role, if any, can the election commission have in sharing with people that there are bad actors and some of them might be domestic, but there's bad actors in elections and how to not have that dissuade you from participating in an election? >> well, i've been doing my best to talk to folks like you and get the word out that really people have to go to reputable sources and they have to be vigilant about the information, not only directly about the election but also about the candidates, and other information that they're using to make the decisions, make sure you're getting it from a reputable source. we know there is disinformation out there.

and if you don't know really where it's coming from, please don't share it. don't amplify the problem. make sure that you're getting it from the real source. >> that is great advice. that leads into the two things you'll see rotating in the bottom right corner of the screen right now. it's plan your vote, tells you how to find that information out, and the next thing is it will be about tomorrow's special at 9:00 a.m. in which we are talking about disinformation and the role it's playing in this campaign. thank you to eddie glaude and ellen weintraub. and as i said, we have something special for you all tomorrow. with the help of my msnbc colleagues, brandy zadrozny and ben collins, with whom you are quite familiar, we'll crack open the disinformation end that pidt is threatening the 2020 election. how disinformation spreads, and how to fight back against it. this will be a detailed specific hour that you will want to watch

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this monday is labor day. we mark the occasion each year on the first monday of september to pay tribute to the contributions made by american workers to the success, prosperity and well-being of the united states. as we come upon that day, the national unemployment rate is starting to move in the right direction despite the coronavirus pandemic. the country gained 1.4 million jobs in august. that's a few more than economists expected, and unemployment fell by 2 percentage points to 8.4%. the stock market is doing very well. it has hit several records in recent weeks. the s&p 500 alone, you can see a bit of a drop there on the right side of your page, that's the last couple of days. but it is actually up 17% from a year ago, and completely up from before the coronavirus. big picture there are millions of americans right now living in the midst of an economic nightmare, something that envelopes their minds, bodies and 24/7 is what they think

about. so many americans have lost everything because of covid-19. many don't know where they're going to find their next paycheck or their next meal or place to sleep. these seemingly forgotten americans have been failed by their government. senate republicans in particular. congress passed the c.a.r.e.s. act to help men and women weather the storm of covid-19 that was five months ago. lots of those benefits have expired or are about to expire. where have they been since? every bill that was supposed to pass didn't. mitch mcconnell and his crew refuse to take up the heroes act which passed theous may house . now the american people have barely anything to show forkr squabbling, and neither do senate republicans. joining me now is sara nelson who has worked behind the scenes with congress on coronavirus relief bills, she's the co-chair

of the biden/sanders unity. you are close to this as a union leader and at the table, but the table appears to be closed for now. is there anything going on? any likelihood of more relief coming from capitol hill any time soon? >> inaction is not an option for the people that i represent in the airline industry, we're looking at mass furloughs on october 1st if congress does not act this week. we are hearing actually that there is incredible bipartisan support to get a deal done, but the leadership has not been encouraging getting that relief in place. so for example with the airline industry workers, our jobs are at risk solely because of coronavirus. this is not about failed business plans. this is the airline industry

demand is 30 po% right now, and expect that to get worse as we get into the fall and we have more problems with the coronavirus because we're not honest about the fact that we don't have this pandemic under control. we will continue to be threatened with our jobs and the industry itself. when those layoffs happen, we will also see a cut to rural communities, to small airports. those airports support jobs as well. normally 750,000 u.s. airline jobs support 11.4 million jobs in the economy. so there is a ripple effect. we know that with the plus up of the $600 gone, that's also going to have an impact on people losing their jobs. we know that if coronavirus relief is not in place, we are not going to have the funds to keep up the sanitation in our cities, to keep up the public transportation in our cities. and people are making decisions right now to sell their cars, break their leases, or not -- or they're behind in their mortgage

payments. we'll see foreclosures. there is going to be another wave of hurt. there are people who are stressed out right now not knowing how they're going to put this together. understanding that they're going to be losing their health insurance and facing terminal illnesses that they're trying to get help for. there are people who don't know where to turn and the depression is mounting. and this is really concerning, going into labor day when we are supposed to be celebrating the economic engine that is the american worker, and instead we are leaving them behind. >> one of the reasons that mitch mcconnell cited for not moving forward on a new plan is a number of his caucus members are concerned. we just heard news this week that the u.s. debt has reached the level of the entire size of the economy. debts going up too fast, deficits going up too fast. they're saying enough is enough. it's a little strange after running up the debt on wars and tax cuts, we decided that giving 600 bucks to individuals is the

bridge too far. >> even if you subscribe to the deficit myth, which is a myth, because with every deficit for the u.s. government, it's a surplus to the american people. even if you subscribe to the idea that the debt is a problem, if you spend more time to get this relief to people, the cost of recovery goes up because people go into debt themselves and they will lose their homes, there will be foreclosures, there will be problems for the banks, there is higher cost for this. for every person who can't pay the student loans or mortgage payment, they'll increase their personal debt which means when they get those jobs back, when they get a way to get income back, they'll be paying that into the debt rather than into the economy. this is absurd. take our plan, for example. the airline industry plan kept people in our jobs, it could only be spent on our pay and benefits. it continued service to all of our communities.

we continue to pay back into the economy, and that was a plus to the american citizens. that was a good use of public funds. if congress does not spend right now, it is going to be catastrophic. i'm hearing even from fiscal conservatives they understand that. there's widespread support for a bill because of these reasons. and the american public simply has to demand it. we're out at congressional offices all over the country hosting protests right now saying to congress inaction is not an option for the american people. it's not an option for the people that this government is supposed to be taking care of. you need to act right now. and there is widespread support for that bill and americans need to know that you can demand it. >> doesn't really matter what side of the political spectrum you're on. working americans buy things, keep jobs going, and pay taxes. that's generally speaking how we want things to work. sara, thanks for the work you have done.

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began as a peaceful demonstration against the death of daniel prude who died at the hands of rochester police turned violent. sometime after 10:30 p.m. local time. that's when dozens of police in riot gear fired irritants into the large crowd. it remains unclear what provoked that move. there's a report that two cars drove into a group of protesters, this video shows a demonstrator jumping on a white vehicle and spraying a red substance that appears to be mace as it drives through a crowd. a red vehicle follows also spraying mace. let's talk about portland, oregon, which was touched off by the pro -- protests there touched off by the police killing of george floyd in minneapolis and have been simmering for 100 days now. in addition to peaceful demonstrations, his death ign e ignitignit ignited clashes between protesters and right-wing extremists.

last night skirmishes between protesters and police broke out yet again outside a portland police union building. officers hurled tear gas and other projectiles to those in the protest and detained several others. last week a caravan of and ant matter traveled to portland squaring off with protesters already there. eric danielson was involved in the clashes on saturday. danielson was killed as gunfire broke out during these confrontations. an arrest warrant was issued for a self-proclaimed antifascist who participated preiently in the protests. he was shot and killed as federal agents with the u.s. marshal service attested to arrest him. he said, they produced a firearm threatening the lives of law enforcement officers. task force members responded to the threat and struck the suspect who was pronounced dead at the scene. in thurston county, oregon, the

sheriff's office is investigating his death andsies he did have a handgun with him at the time of the shoofting, but they can't confirm whether he fired any shots. while it seems to be an isolated incident, what we're seeing in portland is a microcosm of the chaos unfolding in donald trump's america. joining me now is joyce vance. she's got experience working with the u.s. marshal service involved in the attempted arrest and shooting of the suspect in portland. joyce, good morning. let's start there. what do we know about what happened there and what do you think about it? >> well, it's early, ali, and we haven't seen all of the details yet. but the marshal service which is one of the four doj law enforcement agencies operates these fugitive task forces across the country. they're region-based, and they typically involved experienced u.s. marshals working with state and local law enforcement. the fact that they were involved in this arrest suggests that they had some reason to believe it would not be routine, that

this particular suspect presented some sort of a risk to the arresting officers. >> joyce, i want to talk to you about another matter that's developed overnight. donald trump's been tweeting about it in the last few hours. it is a decision by the office of management and budget that certain training around race should be eliminated from the federal government and any contractors that the federal government uses. they're focusing on something called critical race theory, which people can argue about. but fundamental is the idea that there is systemic racism. that is something that the trump administration has categorically rejected the their view is that there are racists, but nothing about the system can be racist or nothing about police organize the justice system can be inherently racist, there just might be racists in those systems. >> you know, i view this through a law enforcement filter, ali, and the way i look at that time is this. prosecutors and federal law enforcement officials have an

awful lot of power. we've talked recently about how qualified immunity means that very often law enforcement members, whether they're state or federal, can't be prosecuted when these acts of violence are committed against citizens, because we want to make sure that law enforcement has the latitude to protect us. well, with great power comes great responsibility. and it is just reprehensible to me the notion that we don't want our law enforcement and our justice officials and other executive branch officials to be empowered, to be trained with as much knowledge as they can have about how matters like implicit bias might impact their judgment. as a federal official, i wanted to make sure i have access to the best training so that my decisions had as much integrity as possible. trump is just blasting out his racism by ending this sort of training. >> and there's -- look, one can have a reason to argue about what that training needs to look like. but the concept, as you describe

it, as implicit bias, that's the biases that are built into us that we would have to be trained to be out of and the concept of systemic bias is something that we do have to learn. because not everybody knows how the system is built. so, they're framing this as a you can't call everybody a racist. but that's actually not what the training's intended to do. >> you know, it's not at all. i heard this sofrlt complairt o early on as u.s. attorney. i decided to require all of my new employees but also more experienced one to participate in a toufrt birmingham civil rights institute and to talk about our history. we have an unfortunate history in birmingham, it's violent and racist. as people that serve the public, we needed to condpront thfront i got a lot of pushback from people saying i'm not a racist. but after going through the museum together and talking as an office committed to serving the community, we understood it

wasn't that we were racist, it was that we had to understand our history, understand how our brains work, that's what implicit bias is about, so we could be the best possible public servants out there. what trump's ending of this sort of training signifies to me is that there is, in fact, a commitment to permitting what supremacist or historical racism to continue unimpeded. that's unamerican and it's unacceptable. >> joyce, good to see you this morning. thank you for being with us as always. joyce vance is a former u.s. attorney in alabama an msnbc contributor. um neup next, an army veter weighs in on the reports that trump called fallen u.s. soldiers losers and suckers. d weighs in on the reports that trump called fallen u.s. soldiers losers and suckers. u weighs in on the reports that trump called fallen u.s. soldiers losers and suckers. up weighs in on the reports that trump called fallen u.s. soldiers losers and suckers. u.. soldiers losers and suckers. when the world gets complicated,

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president reportedly said, i emphasize reportedly said, that those who sign up to serve instead of doing something more lucrative are suckers. well, my son volunteered and joined the united states military as the attorney general and went to iraq for a year, won the bronze star and other commendations, he wasn't a sucker. the service men and women he served with, particularly those that did not come home, were not losers! duty, honor, country, these are values that drive our service members. president trump has demonstrated he has no sense of service, no loyalty to any cause other than

himself. >> morning. saturday, september 5th, i'm ali velshi. we're 59 days from election day and that was joe biden react together latest scandal donald trump is embroiled in over comments he reportedly made about u.s. soldiers and those men and women who have given their lives for their country. the president is, of course, denying it all, which is come to be expected. but the allegations are so truly deplorable that as republican congressman kinzinger says this is either the most heinous hit job on a president or the most heinous comments made by a president. here's the story. reported on thursday afternoon during a trip to france in 2018, trump canceled a planned vis toyota a u.s. world war i cemetery because it was raining and didn't want to get his hair wet. he privately called the american marines who died in the war, quote, losers and suckers. trump also pondered out loud, quote, who were the good guys in this war adding that he couldn't understand why the u.s. backed the allies.

trump's trip to france i