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i mean, i'm sure there will be another in the future, but we've had a couple of weeks of just bombshell after bombshell in these books. i'm grateful again for peter strzok. that does it for us tonight. see you again tomorrow. first look is up next. president trump is on the defense. he admits he downplayed information about the virus. also, the president campaigns in michigan where a lot of polls show him trailing joe biden like some of this other recent events. there was no social distancing and very few masks. and a new warning from dr. anthony fauci. he is urging americans to hunker down through the fall and winter in order to combat this virus.
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good morning, everybody. it is friday, september 11th, and i'm yasmin vossoughian. we're going to begin with the president trying to contain the fallout after it was revealed that he intentionally misled the american people on the severity of the virus. it comes after the audio excerpts with bob woodward when the president admits he knew how deadly the virus was, but yet he decided to play it down in public. here's the president defending himself yesterday, first at the white house and then at a campaign rally in michigan. >> why did you lie to the american people, and why should we trust what you have to say now? >> that's a terrible question and phraseology. i didn't lie. i said we have to be calm, we can't panic. there has to be calmness. you don't want me jumping up and
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down and screaming there's going to be death and really causing serious, serious problems to the country. >> if bob woodward thought it was bad, then he should have immediately gone out publicly and not wait four months. you know, he's had that statement for four months, five months. he's had it for a long time. it was mostly taped interviews mostly by telephone. i did it out of curiosity. i wanted to see if he could write good. i didn't think he could, but let's see what happens. >> they wanted me to come out and scream, people are dying, we're dying. no, no. we did it just the right way. >> so if the president's goal was to prevent panic, he had a really tough way of showing that last night. >> wants to surrender our country to the violent left-wing
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mob. rioters, anarchists, flag burners. the left wants to get rid of me so they can come after you. confiscate your guns. shut down auto production, delay the vaccine. they want to destroy your suburbs and indoctrinate your children. >> you will have crime like you've never seen before. >> no city, town, or suburb will be safe. >> so the president was asked yesterday about his response to the pandemic compared to other world leaders, and he falsely claimed that the u.s. is doing better than the eu. >> mr. president, you talked about the need to stay calm and not jump up and down and scare people. a lot of other world leaders were calm. german chancellor angela merkel
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stayed calm while she tried to protect the people. why did you not share the information that you knew at the time? >> i don't know what angela is doing, but if you look at the european union right now, they're having breakouts like you've never seen before, and, frankly, their numbers are much worse than they are here in the united states. we have done much, much better here than in the european union. i read your numbers that are not good on their behalf and are good on thurns. we've rounded the final turn. we're going to have vaccines very soon, much sooner than you think, but we have done a phenomenal job. >> once again, not sure what the president is looking at when it comes to those numbers. by comparison yesterday united
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states hat 1,136, france had 30, italy had 14, and germany had 3. >> in response, president trump compared himself to winston churchill. >> as frankly delano roosevelt said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. that's it. we're doing very well. as the british government advised the british people in the face of world war ii, keep calm and carry on. that's what i did. we have to be calm. we don't want to be crazed lunatics. we have to lead. when hitler was bombing -- i don't know if you know this. when hitler was bombing london, churchill, great leader, would oftentimes go to a roof in london and speak, and he always spoke with calmness. he said, we have to show
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calmness. >> see, the difference is that the president said keep calm because there's nothing to see here and carry on when, in fact, there is something to see here, 190,000-plus people later we have lost from this pandemic. so as you may know, churchill was known for being incredibly forthright about the dire situation facing the uk during the war. joe biden's campaign continuing to lash out at the president for purposely downplay ing the pandemic. the woman who spoke during the democratic national convention how her trump-supporting father died from the coronavirus, during a call, kristin said
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this. my dad did not panic. instead he died. here's what kamela harris said yesterday. >> we have an individual who is not concerned about the health, safety, and well-being of the american people and is, frankly, engaged in a reckless disregard of the lives and the health and well being of our country. i find it so outrageous. >> so meanwhile the trump campaign's defense has been to strike back at biden for what it claimed was the vice president's, quote, behind-the-curtains quote to the viru virus. trump has continued to hold
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rallies even when knowing the severity of the virus. joining me now, white house correspondent and editor of politico, anita. good morning, by the way. good to see you this morning. it gets you fired up, doesn't it, so you want to launch right into it. you have to be truthful in talking about the way in which bind approaches this thing and he wrote an op-ed about it. the bind cden camp is seizing o this moment in which the president has blatantly lied to the american people in saying this is like the flu when he full well knew it was going to be very deadly and that you could get it literally by talking, as he said, to bob woodward. are they doing enough? is the biden camp doing enough? is it going to be enough of a sticking point for a lot of on the fence voters?
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should they be drilling down the numbers, how many lives could have been saved had this president spoken out earlier, how many lives could have been saved had the president said we need to be wearing masks, this is deadly, we're going to figure it out, it's going to be okay, but we need to wear masks to save lives. does the biden camp need do more, go even further to get those on-the-fence voters on board with him? >> it seems like they've been very aggressive, and they have been. they've always wanted this campaign, this race to be about president trump and the coronavirus. so you see them going after him in a variety of ways, and i think they have been. i think the reason this is resonating and may resonate with voters is because of the president's own words. we've seen countless times books and reporting over the last almost four years, and, you know, they come and go. but what's striking about this is it's the president's own
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words. look, the president is losing time now. in the last week, he's been on the defense, as you said, both with this woodward book and "the atlantic" article that came out last week about fallen soldiers. he's lost a week. he's wanting to control what the message is, but what he's finding is, he's time and time again having to answer to criticism. so he's not driving that message, and i think that's really the key point. he wants it to be about other things, law and order and other topics. he's not able to do that. >> he's not able to do that and he's not able to deny anything. he said himself he was able to deny things because it was not recorded. but this is on tape, on recording, and we can play it over and over get. anita kumar, stay close. i need to talk with you a little
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bit zbefd. stilevidence on the killing breonna taylor will be coming up. also a federal court judge blocks undocumented information from a census count. those stories and a check on the weather when we come back. checke weather when we come back. facing leaks takes strength, so here's to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable, long-lasting protection.
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cameron is expected to make a decision about the finding for or against the defendant. she was an emergency room technician who was shot five times after officers broke down her door looking for drug evidence and the boyfriend fired a shot at the police believing they were home invaders. during the incident, the other two remain on administrative leave. also, a federal court in manhattan has rejected the president's attempt to exclude undocumented immigrants from the census count, calling his order, quote, an unlawful directive. the panel ruled unanimously that the ruling meant to change the census count -- it's based on, quote, the whole number of persons in each state. the panel found that mr. trump's proposal exceeded authority under federal laws governing the
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census and reapportioning. the judge made the ruling it was not blocking it. it was whether and how it would be feasible to count the illegal aliens in each state. let's get into this with my friend legal analyst danny cevallos. let's get into the breonna taylor case first. it's perplexing to me about the body camera footage that a decision can be made of these two officers or three officers without the release of the body camera footage from the police department there. how is that possible? all the evidence is not out. how can they make a decision when all the evidence is not out? >> well, the evidence may be in for investigators, but it may not be out publicly. that's pretty specific with
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presentations by the grand jury. those are highly secret affairs. we may not know for a long time the evidence that's presented to the grand jury. and a good indicator of what direction the grand jury is going to go is where the prosecutor is going go. we already got a hint with the termination letter from one of the detectives involved in the shooting. because grand juries are such one-sided shows, there are no defense attorneys, it's entirely the prosecutors, in police cases, the prosecutor can either present evidence to the grand jury with the idea he doesn't want to indict or he can present evidence for the grand jury to indict, and that seems to be the direction that this case is going right now. >> so let's also talk about this effort on behalf of the trump
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administration to not count undocumented immigrants when it comes to the census. the court allows the government to continue separating out the number of undocumented immigrants even though they must be counted. do you see a basis on which this could actually be overturned? >> not right now. for the first 80 years of our nation's history, the calculus for the census was different. it was counting the whole number of persons but three-fifths of slaves and former slaves. that was changed in 1868 and the 14th amend and tment and the wh calculation of each state. the federal law and the constitution for many years now have been very clear that you count the population residing in a state, the whole number of
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persons within that state. so anything inconsistent with that is going to eventually be struck down. even though the executive branch can do studies, they can look into things, they can investigate, that probably is allowed, but changing the calculus for the census is a constitutionally -- and a creature of federal statute not likely to be changed by any court. >> all right. danny cevallos, thank you as always, my friend. great to see you on this friday morning. >> still ahead, the death toll from one of the wildfires tearing across california grows to ten. the wind threat is even higher. as we go to break, a live look at lower manhattan. today marks 19 years since the september 11th attacks. we're going to have live coverage of today's ceremonies in new york, washington, d.c., and shanksville coming up on "morning joe" and throughout the morning on msnbc.
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welcome back. wile fiers continue to burn across california. it's bringing the total fatalities to ten with 16 people still missing, making it the year's deadliest wildfire and the tenth largest on record. meanwhile the complex fire in mendocino forest is now the largest in california history, burning over 471,000 acres and is 24% contained. six of the 20 largest fires on record have taken place this year alone, and the state has now reached a total of 20 fatalities. for a first look at your forecast, i want to go to nbc meteorologist bill cairns. and some of these stats, bill, are just astounding that i just ticked through here where i say six of the 20 largest fires have
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taken place this year alone. that has got to say something about what is happening with our environmental right now and why this is happening and continues to happen and is not being contained. >> yeah. it's so hot, so dry. we went through the beginning of this fire season, and it wasn't that bad. i mean alaska hasn't had a lot of acreage burn. and then we hit this heatwave. we've had a lot of thunderstorms with dry lightning. thunderstorms and no rain started a lot of these fires. it just explode. we have 80 contained fires. we have scattered fires in other areas. we heard the headlines. the acreage burned in california is unprecedent. we haven't seen this much year to date. broken a record for the most ever in a year. we still have another half of the fire season to go. the rainy season doesn't arrive until sometimes late november, early december. of course, with all of the fires
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burning, one of the big stories has been the unhealthy air. you've seen all the pictures with the orange skies. here's the smoke forecast for today, and it just covers pretty much all of the west. so we're going to deal with bad air quality once again today. we'll also see storms along the gulf coast, a chilly rain in the midwest. as far as the weekend forecast goes, we have a tropical wave that's going to be moving over florida, especially south florida. saturday we'll be dodging the tropical downpours. we'll see scattered storms from chicago, milwaukee, all the way through areas of kentucky and tennessee. notice it's warm and dry in the west. that's not going to change. the best day of the weekend is saturday. on sunday we'll see increasing clouds, but it looks like the i-95 corridor from boston to philadelphia, d.c., stays dry for most of sunday also. you get a pretty nice weekend there. as far as the tropics go, yasmin, we're at the peak of the hurricane season. things are very active.
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we're going to have one, maybe two storms. we'll watch closely. i'll bring you those details in the next half hour. >> i know you will, my friend. talk soon. the nfl kicked off the season last night with the kansas city chiefs hosting the houston texans for the first football game since the pandemic began. the players stayed in the locker room during t"the star-spangled banner" and the black "national anthem" and lift every voice and sing. they stayed inside to avoid system is racism. as for the action on the field, chiefs' quarter back patrick mahomes threw three touchdown passes to lead the chiefs to a victory over the texans. mahomes is the first player to throw three touchdown passes with no interception in three
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consecutive season openers. still ahead, everybody, we're going to take a look at president trump's rally in michigan last night where there was no social distancing and no masks. also, the relief bill has failed to pass. we're going to look at what's in the pipeline. we're back in a moment. s in the pipeline we're back in a moment the rx, c. lease the 2020 rx 350 for $409 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. it's ubrelvy. for anytime, anywhere migraine strikes without worrying if it's too late, or where i am. one dose can quickly stop migraine in its tracks within two hours. unlike older medicines, ubrelvy is a pill that directly blocks cgrp protein, believed to be a cause of migraine. do not take with strong cyp3a4 inhibitors. most common side effects were nausea and tiredness. ask about ubrelvy. the anytime, anywhere migraine medicine.
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one day after a visit by joe bide on the the battleground state. one stoll shows him trail big eight points as was the case in many of trump's recent campaign events. people were packed outdoors with no social distancing. mask wearing was mixed, but those not wearing them was significantly more than those wearing them. the crowd was booing loudly whenever he attacked biden and there were cheers that broke out when he said four more years and build that wall as trump bragged about his own accomplishments. he downplayed his comments to journalist bob woodward. >> america will prevail over the china virus. as franklin delano roosevelt said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. that's it. we're doing very well. as the british government
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advised the british people in the face of world war ii, keep calm and carry on. that's what i did. this whack job that wrote the book, he said, well, trump knew a little bit. they wanted me to come out and scream, people are dying, we're dying. no, no. we did it just the right way. we have to be calm. we don't want to be crazed lunatics. >> not sure anybody is asking him to scream, just asking him to tell the truth. so during his presidential campaign rally as well, a news correspondent kathy gray said she was kicked out of the event after showing pictures of little social distancing outside the hangar. a trump spokesperson said this. a new york tooichls correspondent who had not applied for credentials as a reporter was in the audience. reporters must stay in the
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designated press area before the president's arrival and for the duration of the stay. she was told she could stay in the general admission area, but not while reporting. she declined. gray confirmed the campaign saying she had missed credential deadline by the day and reached out to the campaign multiple times and received no response until she was removed from the events. >> sooz the united states is heading into flu station, the nation's leading infection out disease expert dr. anthony fauci is warning americans cannot let up even though the cases have slowly been declining for the last couple of weeks. the u.s. is still closing in on 200,000 people who have died from the coronavirus, and more than 6 million confirmed infections. fauci also spoke about the covid
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vaccine trials and the possibility of post-labor day surges noting that as one region in the country gets it under control, a hot spot emerges and that spikes inevitably appear whenever they lift social distancing restrictions. faw dhi sauci said this. we need to hunker down and get through this fall and winter because it's not going to be easy. and senate democrats have blocked the republican-proposed slim-down bills saying it withheld too many pressing needs. it fell short of the missing votes needed to be ordered. the legislation would have reinstated enhanced federal unemployment insurance at a rate of $300 a week, half of the $600 weekly payment that expired at the end of july. it also would have authorized new small business loans and put money toward schools and into covid testing treatment and
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vaccines. joining me once again, associate editor anita kumar. how many times have we said it's a no-go. and it seems as if this thing continues to get slimmed down and slimmed down by the day. so what is the likelihood in your estimation from your reporting that something even gets passed before november 3rd? >> yeah. it does not seem likely. i think there was some hope that it would get passed in the summer when they were actually in town, in washington, and negotiating. that broke off as you know. they went on august recess. as you said, they've gotten further apart. this was $300 billion, and the democrats have been asking for $3 trillion. so they're nowhere close. again, they don't agree on what should be in this bill. the biggest things that were left out that the democrats
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really want are this direct aid to state and local governments, the governments that have lost so much money over the last six months and, you know, other -- there are direct payments to americans and other things. so the democrats aren't will together go forward with that, and republicans say they're not even looking at a trillion dollars. it seems very unlikely at this point something's going to pass before november. it looks like this is going to be a political issue instead. which side is to blame for this not coming to pass? >> and the people that are going to suffer most are the american people, the folks who need money to put food on the table, to keep the heat on as the months get colder. the schools, the children going back to school that need school supplies, the testing that needs to happen as we look toward a wave to a comeback of this thing to the fall and as it coincides with the flu season. can we talk quickly about what happened with this "new york
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times" reporter, anita? i know you've attended some of the rallies, the trump campaign, the white house many times. what do you make of it? >> well, i don't know the specifics of this incident. i can see what you all have reported. i will tell you they have covered many, many trump rallies, and they are very, very strict about press needing to be in this press pen, and that has gone back not just when he was president but in 2016. i know that reporters had been ejected from rallies that were not in that designated press area. not only that, they're very strict when the president comes, you can't be on the floor talking to people, and i think that was one of the issues. you can go back to the original thing here. why do some of these people not get credentialed. this this case, it appears she was late with credentials. other times, they have rejected people who have asked for credentials, and we don't really
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know what this criteria looked like. >> politico's anita kumar. great to see you this morning. still ahead, more revelations from bob woodward's new book. what the president said about the murder of a journalist, tha t for bathroom odors that linger try febreze small spaces. just press firmly and it continuously eliminates odors in the air and on soft surfaces.
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was able to ask congress to leave him alone, get them to stop. he also stressed mbs's claim that he's innocent, though, we know others have concluded otherwise. microsoft says that china, russia, and iran launched cyber attacks in the 2020 presidential campaigns. the announcement follows a similar assessment last month by the trump administration finding that russia was trying to denigrate joe biden while china and iran were attacking the president. in a post yesterday microsoft offered a slight variation on this. quoting -- meanwhile microsoft says that the russian organization responsible for the attack on the 2016 democratic presidential campaign and identified in the mueller report is at it again, launching campaigns to, quote,
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harvest people's log-in credentials and affect people's accounts. as for iran, microsoft found that it continued to attack the personal accounts as they put it of people associated with trump's re-election campaign. let's switch gears and get a check on your weather now with nbc meteorologist bill karins once again. so, bill, take us through this. as you mentioned earlier, we're in the peak of hurricane season, so a lot of stuff churning out there. >> yeah. this is the peak week. september 10th is the actual date when we call it the highest average number of storms occurs, and so you expect a lot of activity. they're just lined up right now across the atlantic. you have five separate systems tracking for possible development. two of them are already tropical storms, paulette and rene. we're not concerned with them coming near the u.s. mainland.
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paulette could be a tropical storm near bermuda in a couple of days and return back to sea. the one coming out of africa looks like a long-lived storm, but it's at least seven days away from the caribbean island. we'll focus on that next week. i'll talk about these. the one south of mobile has only a 20% of development. it's going to heft west-southwest near the texas/mexico border in the next four to five days, nothing too serious. the other is coming out of bermuda and heading toward the gulf. that's the storm system we have to watch. there's a flood watch through tampa, sarasota, all the way down to ft. myers, and this is from saturday morning through sunday because we do expect some bursts of heavy rain and thunderstorms when the tropical wave does come through. our computer models are saying
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even the miami area could pick up an inch or two. it's not going to cause a lot of problems in florida, but keep in mind, the passing and hit and mitt-someh miss showers and storms. in the west, no rain until november and december. a lot of the smoke from the fires is causing poor air quality and we'll have chilly-type rain heading through iowa and also the great lakes today. saturday, a bu saturday in teau in the northeast. and dodging storms in the south. i think the big thing people will notice, yasmin, southern new england and the mid-atlantic, the humidity levels will come down. we had serious flooding yesterday around our nation's capit
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welcome back. time now for business. history was made in the financial world yesterday after citibank appointed the first ever ceo as a woman. cnbc's julianna tatelbaum joins us live from london. good morning. i've got to say it's about darn time. >> absolutely. it's huge news for wall street. jane fraser will take over the helm of citigroup when the currentc ceo retires. she's been seen as a rising
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star. she was considered for the top sigs at wells fargo, another top ups bank and she's the first wops to lead wall street. wall diversify ranks. a huge milestone for the banking industry. the justice department meanwhile has announced charges against 57 people for attempting to defraud the ppp small business relief program for $175 million. the payment protection program was, of course, designed to help keep small businesses afloat amid the pandemic. but these charged individuals, what they've done allegedly, some received money on on behalf of fake companies businesses that knew they weren't eligible but applied anyway. doctors accused of stealing from patients. homeowners alleging to be
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farmers. while this program has provided relief to some small businesses that were supposed to use it, it has also gotten into the hands of some who were not supposed to use it. >> cnbc's julianna tatelbaum live from london for us this morning. thank you so much. up next a look at axios' 1 big thing. and on "morning joe," live coverage as america marks 19 years from the attacks on september 11th. and jeh johnson joins the conversation. "morning joe" is moments away. s conversation "morning joe" is moments away. go go go ♪ go go go go on a real vacation. visit
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walk outside of our house in washington. the one big thing we're looking at is there's not that many undecided voters left. think about your life, you say what do you think of trump? they shrug. they love him or hate him. because it's all down to turnout, there's a flashing siren out there for republicans. the early totals of people voting early are moving heavy towards the democrats. in pennsylvania, north carolina, in florida. so much so that mccarthy -- representative mccarthy, the leader of house republicans, told trump privately we're screwed if you talk down mail-in voting. we need our people to vote. in a world about undecided, it's all about turnout. it's getting people that do like you to go out and vote and if
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they don't go out, they have to vote mail-in. and you have a president saying don't trust it. >> a couple weeks ago you had michael moore raising the red flag about a poll in michigan showing trump gaining in michigan. he basically appealed to the biden campaign and said you have to appeal to the progressive left. this is going to come out to turnout and trump is gaining in states like michigan and the tables could be turning. does moore have a point there? >> i think what michael moore is seeing is what i saw all summer traveling through rural america. there are signs of enthusiasm for trump, the number of signs, people wearing hats, shirts, people putting it on their boats in big flags and he's seeing that enthusiasm and not seeing
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it on the biden side. and thinking that trump could win again, he could surprise people. i think the biggest problem for republicans, in addition to donald trump saying the things he did to woodward and doing things to swing voters is talking down mail-in voting. there's a lot of people that probably shouldn't be going in person and voting. if you are an older person and you're worried about your health and the coronavirus, you should be doing a mail-in voting. you don't want to go to the polls and put yourself at potential risk. so republicans need those people to vote. i would pay attention to it. it seems like it's in the weeds but it's going to tell us a lot before election day, if joe biden were to win in a landslide, a big part of that is going to be because most democrats aren't going to vote on election, they'll vote via mail-in voting. >> you brought up the woodward tapes and the book coming out. i think the big question for me
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is, how much are these anecdotes -- how much are donald trump's words resonating with republican voters? is it registering with them that this president lied, mislead the american people in telling them this was like the flu when, in fact, he full well knew that's not what it was? >> evidence suggests that, no. that basically he's impenetrable in some ways in terms of his republican base. that 40% has been with him for years and probably be with him for years more. i think the question might be more around, even if it's only 4 or 5% of the electorate which is undecided and is small and smaller than most elections, it's still 4 or 5%. a lot of those people when you break down the polling data or sit in the focus groups. they're telling themselves, i don't like donald trump, i don't trust him, but i think i might like his policies a little bit better than biden's or certainly
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the progressive left's. the question would be does that add to the evidence for those people that can't go with trump. that's where it might matter. in terms of republicans you see it, you did interviews around the michigan rally yesterday. they just don't buy it. they don't believe anything that comes out of the atlantic, "the new york times". anything they're reading in terms of the trump infrastructure. >> jim, thank you my friend. i'm going to be reading axios a.m. in just a little bit. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. this president to put the health of america first from day one. >> i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down because i don't want to create a panic. >> he also wanted to reassure
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the panic all along the way. >> is there a way we can do something like that? like injection inside or almost a cleaning? . >> there's that old saying from the world war ii in great britain, keep calm, carry on. >> people that you've never heard of. people that are in the dark shadows. >> what does that mean? >> the president made it clear he wanted us to deploy the full resources of the federal government. >> it's supposed our stockpiles, not state stockpiles. >> it i couldn't be more proud of the strong, steady leadership that donald trump brought to this coronavirus pandemic from day one. >> now it's turning out it's not just old people, bob. but today and yesterday startling facts came out, it's not just old, older people. it's plenty of young people. >> willie, did you ever see "absence of malice"? >> of course. >> did you
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